This one is mostly for fun, as guessing the next manager is nearly always wrong, but there is some logic in my final answer, so bear with me.
Let’s look at some of those suggested;
Moyes? Ha, no chance. Why on earth would he leave Sociedad when he’s doing not brilliant, but ok?
I can’t say I’ve kept an eye on things there, but am guessing he’s in the middle of a plan, where there’s no way he’d take on a poisoned chalice like the Villa, in my opinion.
Benitez? Interesting, but he’d want a boat load of money, which he has been prone to waste. Even if Fox suggested him, I’d guess Lerner would put the block on him.
Wasn’t he supposedly the manager who laughed at Lerner when he heard what the spending budget was last time? Whatever, no chance again.
Martin O’Neil? After he won an out of court unfair dismissal settlement against Lerner? Just laughable.
Alex McLeish? Stop, my sides are aching!
Back to more reasonable suggestions and we have the likes of Jurgen Klinsmann.
He’s another interesting shout, but again, why would he come?
Southgate? I don’t rate him at all, so I definitely hope not, although I’m sure Lerner would at least entertain an ex player. No, perish the thought.
Laudrup? Young and up and coming, but what has he done in any decent league? Nothing, I’d suggest.
Allardyce? Hmm, Smethwick born and I have a sneaky feeling he might even be a Villa fan at heart, but again, why would he want to move from West Ham to Villa?
That said, he hasn’t got a new contract yet has he???
Decent manager, but his footy is generally poor, hence he wouldn’t be my choice.
Hoddle? Excellent coach, but tainted, so I don’t see it.
I’ve no doubt missed some other choices, but quite frankly it’s a lottery trying to guess.
Lerner will want cheap and we have even less idea what Fox thinks.
The question is what does the club need at the moment?
While a top manager, who can make us win most of our remaining games and keep us midtable next season, while having some masterplan to build us into a European powerhouse is always the aim, the reality is we need someone who can get us out of the dire straights we are in now.
Someone who can have an immediate effect via a boot up the proverbial on a side, even if it’s only short term.
I know it’s not going to be a popular choice, but mine is to pay Tim Sherwood a right good wedge of money purely to keep us up this season. A short term contract, that he can’t refuse, in other words.
I know it seems he has far too many demands, but desperate times need desperate measures.
And for me, there’s no doubt he can fire players up to perform, which is what we need right now.
We can call for any manager you like and indeed they might prove better over the longer term, but our immediate priority is simply to survive this season. Hence I’m suggesting he’s the man.
Unless you can think of someone else who could hit the ground running, faster?
According to Vital Lennon and Klinnsman have both ruled themselves out (not to upset about Lennon).
Kilnsman was just paper talk IMHO. Agree about Lennon – no thanks
Klinsmann hasn’t been quoted though, however he’s not going to leave his current position. Not sure why people keep suggesting him.
Simply because the night that Lambert’s departure was announced, several of the big bookies immediately had Klinsmann as 2nd favourite after Sherwood [admittedly on much longer odds].
He’s slipped back now, while the odds on Curbishley have shortened over the last 24 hours to make him 3rd favourite.
{-and before anyone says that the bookies don’t know what’s going on at Villa – the night before McLeish was announced as manager, several of us noticed that his odds had shortened dramatically, in the space of a couple of hours; so either the bookies ‘knew’ something, or somebody was spreading quite a bit of money around on him before any official announcement!}
Stuart Pearce – not really mentioned but knows the Englisg game, has good experience domestically / internationally, understands young players, good motivator; I think he might just be a good call. From what I read I think Notts Forest fans were pretty upset by his dismissal.
Stuart Pearce was sacked after 3 wins in 23 games, so no thanks.
The only reason they were upset was because of his playing career there.
Think you’re right. His methods always seem very ‘old school’ to me – not that there’s always anything wrong with that, but I think Villa need a radical shake up.
I think Pearce would be an awful appointment. He might keep us up this season but I really wouldn’t want him as a permanent appointment.
Firstly, is it just me, or is it farcical that we have dont even have a proper assistant manager to take over from the fired manager? We have Marshall & Marshall runnning the show. Does anyone actually know who they are?!!
As for team selection, Vlaar has to start this weekend. There is no leadership on or off the field, and regardless of whether he is leaving or not, he is our only natural leader and club captain.He needs to be given back the role of commanding the defence and motivating the team. Benteke also needs to be back up front. We all know Gabby is a waste of a shirt, and if a chance comes his way, he will probably miss it. Even if Benteke’s form isnt great, there is always a chance of a goal.
These two players will be key in keeping us up.
Klinsmann – yes please, but won’t come
Benitez – would be a big improvement on our recent managers, but won’t come unless he gets a big transfer budget
Sherwood – don’t really see why anyone is that keen on him
Pearce – not a great track record, no thanks
Laudrup – was sacked by Swansea for allegedly being “lazy”, but I like his playing style
Lennon – no thanks, no more SPL managers please!
Moyes – no thanks, no more Scottish managers please!
O’Neill – wouldn’t come back and is doing well with Ireland
Southgate – Villa legend and doing well with U21s, but not a great PL record
Allardyce – would be stupid to leave West Ham
Hoddle – barking and would be a gamble, but could pay off
McClaren – doing well at Derby, but awful for England
Sven – would be cringe-worthy
McLeish – who suggested that?!
Brian Little – why not?!
Not sure about Brian Little; great player and had a good spell at VP as manager – but that was nearly 20 years ago, and he’s not done anything notable since then.
If we are to go back to the future, why not John Gregory? His Villa teams were certainly competitive and he seemed to know how to get them fired-up for every game.
Just looked at Gregory’s wiki page and apart from his time at Villa his win record is woeful so I think we can safely put that one to bed.
didn’t he offer to shoot yorky rather than selling him to utd ???
Plus he’s just had heart surgery.
Nath I believe when Yorky as for a transfer he said some along the lines of ‘If I’d had a gun I’d have shot him’.
That’s my kind of manager.
I don’t know who we’re gonna get, but I like Fox and so far he has not let us down. This though, will no doubt be his defying moment..
no new manager yet ??? you would have thought that the decision makers, would have had a idea who the next manager, they would break before releasing the last one.
i think best option long run, is a short term manager say 13 games. maybe Curbishley is the best of a bad bunch. best to wait for more quality candidates, before looking for long term victim.
fa cup weekend this might be just what the doctor ordered, leicester are gonna be no pushovers. they are a good team, struggling for goals but still scored more than us. i hope iam wrong but i see us losing and gifting leicester a moral boosting victory.
p/s has shay given done his badges he could save lerner more money
Given’s price at the moment is somewhere between 10:1 and 33:1, so mabye he has done them?
No thanks we’re in the SHITE no novices please,pick another team for a learning curve.
just catching up with todays rumors campbell’s thrown his name in for the vacancy. not that iam saying hes the man. but i think a player or recent ex player maybe whats needed to relate to this set of players. i remember dalglish doing a playmanager role late 80’s
We need an experienced manager who can keep us up. Personally, I think we should have got Pulis in when we had the chance – he would have kept us up. Not sure who I would go for now to be honest.
bws said same thing and most ppl i have spoke with this week, agree villa should have sacked lambert way before the January sales. pulis should have been the man signaled out to replace lambert. now its like we are scrambling around for crumbs left.
of the wanted list i like big sam and mclaron both won’t come to villa, maybe in summer if derby fail to gain promotion and big sam doesn’t agree a extension
Yes I’d say the yam yams are safe now.
Here’s the prices, never heard of some of these (not big on continental football). Anybody know anything about Ralf Rangnick or Christophe Galtier?
Tim Sherwood 2/1
Jurgen Klinsmann 7/1
Harry Redknapp 10/1
Neil Lennon 14/1
Ralf Rangnick 20/1
Christophe Galtier 20/1
David Moyes 20/1
Roberto Mancini 25/1
Murat Yakin 25/1
Sven-Goran Eriksson 25/1
Roy Keane 25/1
Glen Hoddle 25/1
Uwe Rosler 25/1
Marcelo Bielsa 25/1
Mark Hughes 33/1
Slaven Bilic 33/1
Michael Laudrup 33/1
Neil Adams 33/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 33/1
Roberto Di Matteo 33/1
Sam Allardyce 33/1
Alan Curbishley 33/1
going on this betting sherwoods on the drift and redcraps prices in dropping
not really a stand out prospect slap a quid on curbs
You’ve missed Hoddle – 2nd favourite at around 9/2 at the mo!
Hang about…
& Hoddle 9/2
Curbishley has come right diwn from 40-1 to 5-1 in no time.
Do they know something we don’t?
sometimes you get false moves to temp ppl to part with cash, but i heard a few whispers on curbs only on a short term
Certainly his odds have shortened quite a lot during this afternoon, and it’s the big-boys [Paddypower/Coral/Ladbrokes] who’ve tightened up most… and yes, agreed, it may just be someone trying to start a market.
The club want a permanent manager they’ve said that
who is your shout oohahaha who is your choice
Not curbushly Ffs may as well have kept lamberk Ffs
Agreed on this. Would be a terrible choice!
I would take Curbishley on a short term deal. Maybe if he could get the team to perform a longer deal after that. I think we would play better football.
I am really worried that we are stumbling along here. We wanted Lerner to sell up but having told us he intended to we are in many ways worse off. Then we wanted rid of Lambert and have got our wish but now we are stuck without any outstanding candidates likely to have any interest.
I’m not saying Lambert shouldn’t have been sacked, but I don’t know we are going to better off in the short term as a result.
Problem is it won’t be short term if he wins 2 games lerner will offer him a ten year deal
OohAh you haven’t answered the question – are you a politician? Who would be your choice not who do you want to diss out. Come on it’s time you fell off the fence like the rest of us on a Friday night
Murat yakin weren’t Langford on about this chap a while back??????
I thought Leicester looked quite good going forward in their last two games, but they were snatching at chances in front of goal, and not good at marking all the attackers when they are defending. If Scott Marshall follows the Lambert plan, even Leicester’s defence won’t get muddled marking 1 Villa forward, He had better forget the high line played at Arsenal also.
Curbishley?
You have to be kidding, DSVilla, imo. He’s too long out of the game.
I see Marshall, whoever he is, is going to run the team, which is fair enough, but it’s now blatantly obvious to me that Lambert’s sacking is 100% reactive, as opposed to pro-active.
And no doubt purely down to the new $ky contract.
I really think Lerner has poohed his pants and realised that not being in the Prem next season means he can only stand to lose even more money when it comes to a selling price for the club.
IE, if we get relegated, we immediately become worth at least another £30 mill less than we would have been before the new deal, than any Prem club.
I really believe this is the only reason Lambert was sacked, which just shows what a joke Lerner’s ownership of the club has become.
So, we’ll bumble along and probably make another mistake in the next appointment, I’m guessing.
Unless Fox can prove me wrong.
Which I have my doubts about.
As far as I’m concerned, he was brought in for his financial accumen, not his football knowledge.
I’m very worried.
But still maintain that we can’t be any worse than we were with Lambert in charge.
Betting been suspended on Tim sherwood so they say make of it what you will
I have awful thoughts – ones that will create nightmares.
one thing with Sherwood he likes to play a high tempo type of game that style of play usually correspond with the good times down at villa park so if it is him fasten your safety belts!
…and a high line, which has not worked out well for us.
Yup, looks as if at least 4 or 5 of the online bookies have now suspended any more trade on Sherwood…
Nope Badger, not kidding. Purely looking at what’s around and realistic. I personally have a very bad feeling about Sherwood. He was already at Spurs and knew the players. They considered him not good enough and went for Pochettino. Who would you rather have of those two? I think Curbishley would be OK as an interim and would be more likely to take the job as an interim with a carrot offering based on performance. If it’s Sherwood it will be a permanent appointment. Is this really the best we can do?
I hope he isn’t given the job but if he is I hope I’m wrong and he is a great success.
I do too Id rather we had stuck with lamberk than this clown. This was always the fear that we’d get another poor manager.
Some twitter “ITK” claims announcement Sunday….
I’m bloody hate these ppl who think they have inside info….but he got his last guess right, which was the Gil signing.
it does look like sherwood now, betting wise suggests this, nobody heard anything ?????
Well if it is Sherwood look on the bright side, he won’t join us without a decent salary and the assurance he gets decent funds in the summer !
If it is Sherwood we’ve got to back him – we must stay up.
Yes he’s inexperienced, but how he supposed to get the experience if nobody will give it him?
I think the fact he is inexperienced is a good thing, because at least he hasn’t had chance to pick up any bad habits yet!!!!
in that case pick someone who’s never managed before. Or does’t even have a football background. I think Sherwood is probably only a shade better than Roy Keane.
It will not be long before we are all going through this again if Sherwood gets the job. If he does get it and is a success I will happily come on here eating humble pie.
Would you like custard with that humble pie DS 🙂
ssn opened talks with villa
Blimey, it seems I might have actually called this one correctly, for a change!
I really didn’t think it would actually happen, but this definitely strikes me as a Fox appointment, given that he knows Sherwood.
I now suspect this might be the reason why Sherwood knocked QPR back/QPR turned him down.
And that is encouraging, in that Fox might indeed have been thinking ahead.
I think you’re bang on, this deal was cut before Lambert was sacked, Fox wouldn’t have sacked him otherwise. Here’s a prediction – Sherwood will be announced as manager at Sunday’s game (you heard it here first!).
Probably right glad I won’t be there to hear it
http://www.umaxit.com/index.php/columns/desperate-times-call-for-tim-sherwood
Hope not. The piece on the link above is exactly the same impression I have about him.
Can’t think of anybody worse
I can, have you not heard of Paul Lambert?
Spot on Gareth.
Let’s not escape the fact that it seemed we were definitely going down under Lambert’s tenure.
Unless you think he could have turned it around, of course.
If indeed Sherwood gets the honour of managing us, I’ll be rooting for him.
Yeah me too, maybe we should email that article to tom fox. Really dont fancy sherwood, was getting my hopes up for someone like Prandelli.
That article is a 100% attempt at a character assassination, imo and I really wouldn’t give it much credence.
What’s gone on between them, I wonder?
Sherwood will do for me to be honest. Lets see the reaction in the players before we make any judgment. Lets all be honest would we not have taken this a week ago? I know I would, simply for a change.
No, not for me. Nothing but trouble that bloke. Plus doesn’t have his own trusted backroom staff and only 6 months experience at top level.
Trusted backroom staff – you mean people that are accused of bullying ie Culverhouse, Karsa and Keane.
Give the bloke a chance if appointed.
We have no choice – 13 league games to stay in this division.
Why you keep bringing Lambert and his staff into it, its like ur obsessed.
Pulis assembles his own, that’s why he’s so good at what he does….!!!!!!
Have you actually suggested someone realistic, Helenius?
Genuine question.
Sherwood it is then Ffs Sherwood it is then another bad decision. Totally useless http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tim-sherwood-on-brink-of-taking-aston-villa-job-10045902.html
Remind me who your realistic alternative was then Oohah?
There’s nobody completely realistic who I would want. Laudrup plays good footy but he’s ruled himself out, other foreign managers like Bielsa and Tuchel I’d love but would be very very unlikely but only if they were long term. Klinsmann is another. Bilic more realistic, he’d get the squad in check.
Heck I’d rather Hoddle than Sherwood!!!
i agree with helenius hes stepping into a mess at villa, not a well run club like spurs, hes arrogant, and comes across like a very unlikable fellow i can see the players loving him, sounds like another case of bullying allegations is around the corner.
but i thing we were doomed to relegation and i still think we’ll go down. sherwoods gets a free strike, but i hope hes not the future the board have pinned their hopes on
That’s my point though Nath.
We need someone arrogant, but who at the same time, talks sense.
It’s why I posed the question earlier in the thread, where he might possibly be the next Clough?
Probably not, but nothing ventured, nothing gained, is my view.
While tried and tested managers who can improve us over time are what we really need long term, for me, it’s quite simply shit or bust for this season.
And that’s what Sherwood is.
Fwiw, he’s not a long term answer for me either.
then we agree, i always back the managers who ever they end up, i think he will also slag the players in public and its what the fans like, but the players will not enjoy this, sounds like fun, we might need somat out of the normal to escape, i just cant see him long~run short~term he might get a reaction
Nath, some players need slating and even dropping.
I think Sherwood will do that.
And it’ll make a refreshing change.
Play the players that look the best, in their correct positions and I believe we’ll have a better chance of survival than we did under Lambert.
That has to be a plus, imo.
Badger this is an awful appointment this guy is a disaster. I’d rather have lamberk. See u in championship.
It will be ‘refreshing’ at least if we have someone who is articulate in the media and can speak to fans direct, after Lambert and McLeish, who mumbled the same incomprehensible defensive grunts before and after every game.
Be even better if he can actually get the players going again – even if for only the next 3 months!
Ardent articulate and able to speak? Peter Beardsley would be an improvement on Lambert.
Agree I really don’t want him awful decision but predictable. Championship here we come
72 hours ago ANYONE was better than Lambert.
If fans [especially on here] had been given a vote, we’ have had endless arguments about the relative merits of dozens of names from all over Europe – and if we’d ever reached a concensus it probably wouldn’t be Sherwood, for all of the reasons we’ve read.
Big risk to appoint someone with so little real experience, but if they go ahead and do it, then either you have to admit that we should have kept Lambert, or you give the new man a chance to show what he can do – ‘coz there aren’t many games left for him to get it right.
Ardent your right Id actually rather have lamberk than Sherwood this will be a disaster trust me
OoHah – who did you actually want [or expect] to replace Lambert [because you certainly didn’t want him to stay just a few days ago]?
I know would like klinsman or laurrsen if we could get them. Steve Clarke would be better than Sherwood imo. Top of my list would be Benitez but I know we’ve no chance of that. But basically lerner left it too late he’s the the only option we’ve got now and if we go down which is looking as likely as ever then lerner gets why he deserves
If Sherwood is our next manager, he will get my support and good luck to him because I will be happy with that appointment.
If Sherwood comes he will relegate us he’s never been in a relegation dog fight useless useless villa
Because there is not a lot of choice out there if we appoint Sherwood we should all get behind him.
I don’t care if he is arrogant – most footballers are and if he is nasty great. Our players have had it easy for too long and need a kick up the area.
for me Lambert would definitely have took us down. No wins in 10.
here here Steve should it be Sherwood then yes we should 100% get behind him. Cloughie was an absolute gobshite but could the fella manage?
Shrinking violets (and mumbling Jocks) have no place in football.
BWS – you and Badger both mention Clough; I too am old enough to remember him in his pomp back in the 70’s, and boy did he get up everyone’s nose [unless you happened to be a Derby or Forrest fan at the relevant times]!
The difference of course is that Clough had won a few things…although he had to start somewhere too, I suppose.
Only foreign managers win stuff these days that’s a fact
Hartlepools I believe mate, personally I loved the bloke, in his pomp he was intelligent, talented, articulate and funny .
What was it he said when asked if he was the best manager? I wouldn’t say I was the best manager in the business but I was in the top one.
Classic.
He was the first TV-savvy football manger.
All the big names before him just used to be pictured in the tabloids in their sheepskin coats, coming out of nightclubs with a cigar in one hand and a blonde on the arm [Malcolm Allison comes to mind…]; Cloughie was probably the first to come out and talk about his teams and others on TV, and he was articulate, funny, and extremely rude about lots!
His autobiographies are amongst the best I’ve read. He always regretted falling out with Taylor and to be honest he was never quite the same without him. What’s the saying? Give me a man that’s true to me and I’ll rule the world?
That pair certainly did for a short time.
Clough had ability to back it up Sherwood hasn’t managed for 5 mins. Better if giving it to Sid.
Sid is a legend but no manager mate.
Apparantly it’s debatable whether Sherwood even has his badges ffs
Neither did one Mr Shankly and frankly he did ok.
See supporters making do again Sherwood the next Lerner patsy or is it Paul Sherwood or Tim Lambert.I actually thought Fox had more about him than Tim Sherwood.But then again Sherwood isn’t a well known manager Im starting to wonder is Lerner going to do what he did with Lambert with restrictions.Theyve said they want a long term appointment Sherwood isn’t a very ambitious appointment is it.
Another cheap disastrous appointment
F##k me oohah you are a little Ray of sunshine.
Just text my mate who’s a Spurs St holder. He said he will want total control of club and is toxic behind the scenes and completely arrogant without the ability to back it up. Villa Boas was stabbed in the ack many times by this idiot. Sounds like mon without the ability. The fact WBA and qpr won’t touch him says it all.
I believe Sherwood will gets us out off this battle at the bottom and if he is appointed all fans should get behind him.