Terry Jones has submitted the following;
I submitted an article titled “Lambert Out” but it has not been posted and I am wondering as to why.
Is it that nobody wants to hear the truth? as some comments so far are still making lame duck excuses for Lambert’s failings by saying give him time to sort it out.
Sorry to say, time is running out fast as we no longer have a team that is worthy of our support.
Since Lambert came to the club he has spent somewhere in the region of £40 million but not on players of quality.
Each transfer window as one poster has said we are linked with players in the region of £10 million or so giving the fans hope that things will get better. None of these signings however materialise and all he does is waste money on players in the region of 1 to 2 million either from the lower leagues or abroad and all he says is the vision is for young hungry players and building for the future. This reminds me of the crouchy advert. Hungry for success? no way. They are only hungry for a bigger wage packet than they were getting at the clubs they were playing for.
As it stands the club is devoid of direction, ambition or leadership and since he has been at the helm we have picked up more unwanted records than at anytime in our great history.
So is it not fair to say that we now need a new captain of the ship before it sinks without a trace?
The truth is yes. Lambert was never and never will make it as a top manager. His record speaks for itself and unless there is change either by Lerner sacking him or Lerner selling up or new owners taking over and bringing in a top manager who can attract players to the club then I am afraid that the situation is not going to get any better soon.
All we are going to see is the demise of a great club we all love and support.
Lambert must go or all we will get is seeing our club struggle year in year out. I don’t think this is what most fans want, not after the past four years.
Your thoughts please.
Terry, the reason your previous article wasn’t published was because you’d submitted one a couple of days previously, which was published.
It’s not healthy to see too many opinions from one person, too close together and we like to give others a chance.
That’s all it is mate.
I’d personally like to see some more positive submitted posts coming in to counter your opinion, but the fact is we aren’t getting any. Not surprising really, as things at the moment are very subdued and it seems that the fans are getting fed up with the “young and hungry” thing.
We need a couple of wins to get us back on track and if we don’t get them, I believe Lambert’s position will soon become untenable, meaning you might get your way.
All imo.
No point mate to submit any positive posts I would be wasting my time as all that would happen when I post them is I would be called an idiot told to piss off and don’t be so stupid as the AVFC crystal ball brigade of doom and gloom works it’s magic….UTV
Jay Dee, hope your taking comments personal from me, I have a tendency to say things and not mean them, I do have a passion and its Aston Villa F C , if you are thinking of what I’ve said to you and its upset you I’m sorry, after all we both want the same thing for our side, let’s forget it please.
You havnt upset me bill I just don’t share your point of view…UTV
How can anyone do a positive article badger there’s fuck all to be positive about. Even the most positive poster of all in Langford can’t defend Lerner and lamberk anymore.
It’s not quite that cut and dried for me yet, Oohah.
Lambert still has some games to prove things one way or the other for me.
Get a couple of decent results in the next month and he’ll get a bit of a reprieve.
Go, say a month without winning and he’ll be finished imo.
You still do have to bear in mind that we’ve had a pretty tough start, but we’ve now got some “easier” games coming up.
The question for me is would our performance yesterday have got us a result if we weren’t playing Everton, but some lesser club?
My money says it probably would. Hence if we can keep it up, we should pick up points along the line.
Whether that’ll be enough, is of course another question.
Too true terry no one can defend lambert or lerner now the buck stops with them im sick of this every year its the same villa under lerner have the worst records in our history that is a fact no one can defend villa fans will have to make a choice do nothing or start staying away sad thing is neither one help I hate lerner now
Me to mate it’s no longer worth supporting this club financially as a supporter until Lerner sells which is going to be a long time I’m afraid
This is Lamberts 2nd top flight job and has had success in clubs he has been at.He did his coaching badges at Dortmund and was said to have been top class.Lambert has had only one season in charge which is not enough time to judge someone who has only just begun.Im starting to really get tired of this constant mumping and groaning….We have two winnable games coming up if we win them we will be sitting about 10th.You just want success on a plate pal life isn’t like that….UTV
Yep but Pinocchio, laudraup and Steve Clarke have had the same or less time and look at them. Having coaching badges means diddly squat it’s just a vanity thing lets face it fergie and winger havnt got them enough said.
Terry , I know where your coming from on your comment and your right, its not working ,the players are now feeling that same thing they don’t have any idea how to break down any team, every club now knows how to play us, we are sitting ducks, Lambert’s team of coaches are far from knowing there jobs, either he goes or the backing team, I’m now ashamed at the team, all around where I live take the piss knowing that’s my team, Terry I can take it mate , we are shite now but better days maybe in the next 10 years.
I have always been a massive Lambert/Learner follower post the MON era since Lambert was appointed, low wages, low transfer fees, bargain buys. Championship Manager style football, like taking Woking into the Premier League with £50k bargains…..
Our transfers have been a bit like buying a pair of sunglasses of the ‘lucky lucky’ man down on the beach on holiday. Will they last the season or will they be another Balaban or Salifou and they fall apart 10 minutes after Mr lucky has fucked off?
I’ll stop fucking about with stupid terminology – We are shit. Simple. I have never been so embarrassed in my life.
I’ll also get this off my chest – why the fuck does Benteke have to take penalties when he is clearly shit at taking them? Is it in his contract?
I can’t be arsed to write anything else as I am that fucked off.
Learner your new model is again not working. How many more seasons are we going to be in ‘transition’?
How about attending some games, watching the shit we have to and then and dipping into your pocket. Southampton have bigger ideas than us at the moment.
Sort it, spend some money or sell to me for £1!!!!! 🙂
Well said Mark players just arnt good enough but what do we expect for £1-2m pound. The club is a joke as far as I’m concerned we are never going to more than a bottom six club under Lerner all he wants is for us to stay up to pocket the money. Remember a lot of USA owners wanted relegation scrapped like in USA to protect their investment. If it wasn’t for threat of relegation wud would be in the bottom 2 and that’s a fact. Lerner dosnt give a shit why should we ffs. I disagree slightly re Benteke taking pens as he normally does ok. Also who else is there. Bacuna maybe lowton if he plays.
Benteke missed against arsenal as well remember but scored the rebound. He is not great at taking penalties and always looks uncomfortable.
Personally I would get the weeman taking them as he is probably our most natural finisher IMO. When he scores he actually places his shot like he means it.
Bad day yesterday – Anyway I have let off steam and I am back behind the team now 100% – positive. Come on villa against Cardiff next home game
Why doesn’t someone post a thread where people can talk about what they find positive in our team, as in what players they like, players that have improved and what players they think will come good and or have potential?
This isn’t that sort of site.
Of course it’s that sort of site Vaze, don’t be daft!
I’m sure you think we cherry pick posts and only publish the negative ones.
I can assure you this is not the case and I’ve already explained why Terry’s previous post wasn’t published.
We’ve just received another one, from someone else, but I’m very loathe to publish it as it’s yet another moan, which is too similar to this article.
The point is, if we’re only getting negative submissions, what are we supposed to do?
Refuse to post them all?
The articles reflect what we get in and it’s as simple as that!
I actually resent the suggestion that you think we have some sort of agenda, because it’s simply not true. Tbh, I’m getting fed up of you suggesting it, but guess I’ll have to live with it.
To prove the point, get your positive post in and I’ll publish it.
I’m afraid the simple fact is that any positive view is in the minority at the moment, based on submissions coming in and what I’m reading in the replies.
And I challenge you to name any other Villa site that is consistently positive of late, as I’m struggling to find one mate!
So it’s not just us.
Appreciate that I’ll probably be told to do one by the neg heads, but I thought that it would be interesting to give you an Everton fan’s perspective of the match.
Took a toffee mate along, and he reckons that we are a good team trying to break out,
We could and should have been two or three up after fifteen minutes, the penalty miss was huge.
As 0-0s go, the first half was thoroughly entertaining, and could have been 2-2 or 3-3. Belgian strikers couldn’t get past Yank keepers.
We totally dominated the first fifteen of the second half, Everton didn’t get out of their own half.
Lukaku took his chance well with an excellent finish, and at this point, as noted by said toffee, we capitulated. In his words, he hadn’t seen a team go from pressing, dominating, and creating to backing off, sitting back, and allowing the other side into the game.
Osman took his goal clinically, and that was that.
Were Villa awful ? No.
The next ten games will give us a far better indication as to whether we are progressing than the first ten.
Man U is the only one that you wouldn’t expect us to get something from, and the way that they are playing, that’s a moot point right now.
If we rack up seven ‘hard done by’ losses, we’re in trouble. Seven hard fought for wins, and I’ll be happy.
on watching highlights last night and this morning how did we miss 4 sitters yesterday everybody moaning about luna 2 goals came down our right side mccarthy should have been sent off we are getting no luck even our pens that are stone wall have commentators saying should not got them lambert should get next 6 games and if we dont get at least10 to 12 points sack him give somebody else chance and no more young cheap signings we need big strong ch dm
Even worse why did we not resign Barry when we had the chance. Lambert you are a total fuckwit go now!!
oohahh.. i don’t think Barry would come to us on 30K a week.. nor would Man City accept it as part of subsiding his wages..
There lies the problem.. PL does have faults BUT he is working with peanuts in the richest league in the world..
Next summer it has to change.. no more excuses!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot believe that we couldn’t compete for a loan deal against Everton who are hardly flush with cash themselves. Appalling IMO
Come on mate.. we have only paid 4 players over 20K in the last three windows.. we can’t afford Barry unless RL changes his budget..
Everton are in no better financial position than us but are run by a business man who knows football and loves his club. Any villa fan who laughed when Martinez turned us down now knows why. He’s chasing European football and were chasing 17th.
Agreed Martinez turning us down was yet another humiliation wev suffered under Lerner. I’m no fan of Ellis but he would have got Martinez to come to vp and told whelan where to go in the process
I said in my article that I didn’t think we were too bad Vaze, so you won’t get much argument from me.
Personally, I think a lot of the negativity of late is stemming from the fact that we’re just not getting results at home.
Any way you look at it, losing 4 out of 5 at home is poor.
I just read a comment elsewhere that said we’re rapidly approaching <1 point per game and it's a fair point.
We need to turn it around mate.
I have said it before and I’ll say it again despite the fact that my opinion will be questioned. We are competing in the premier league, one of the most competetive leagues in the world. To change manager plus build up and wage structure of the club in the first season and beeing able to stay in the league with an almost newly recruited team which is also the youngest team in the league is remarkable and thourogly impressive. Lambert has done an incredible job, no two ways about it, as he would say. Whatever you say this project must take time. All teams in the PL is very good and have the chance to compete. No matches can be expected to be won. You can always loose, even M City and Arsenal might…
All doom and gloom, I’m also sick of loosing, but I have the patience and understanding of how difficult this is. Lambert must get some more time than one season and some games… You are all a bit deluded to think you are all so much wiser than Lambert. He brought Norwich up two divisions in consecutive seasons and stayed comfortably in first season in top-flight. He is also champions league winner. Please, to say he has no clue is clueless. Sorry.
Roy keane and Bruce are champions leagues winners but you wouldn’t want them managing us would you. Means nothing. Obviously your in the minority that are happy to see us get beat every week as long as we stay up. Lerner us taking the piss we will never succeed under him in a million years
Ok, my point a part from beeing a CL winner was the part advancing a team two divisions in two consecutive years and directly competing in the highest. In what way was your references vital to that? My point is that saying Lambert is clueless and do not know what he is doing is not a valid argument. He most certainly know exactly what he is doing. And he knows football on a deeper level than most commentators. I more happily accept you do not like his approach or philosophy, but he surely has more clues than most of you moaners. I repeat instant success is rare in the prem without arab money. To try and get a good spirit and atmosphere were everyone fight is our best shot me thinks, and then fans and support is vital. Thus I will not moan despite beeing frustrated when loosing as most…
Again look at Swansea and Southampton. Pretty instant I would say
Well, well, well, haven’t been on this site in ages but isn’t it strange to see people slagging lamberk off, after I was called all the names under the sun for suggesting he was an absolute joke of a manager.
Said back last season we needed a young, intelligent and most importantly non-British coach, just like Mauricio Pochettino and what a terrific job he is doing but all the experts on here told me Pochettino was shit, Southampton would be relegated and Lamberk was great. How did that turn out then?
Anyway, there is no point trying to convert the few that remain in the lamberk fan club, they suck up to him whatever. Terry was indeed spot when he described them as lemmings. Don’t waste your money on AVFC, haven’t spent a penny on them in ages and its at least nice to know I haven’t contributed to the wages of the turds that embarrass our once proud club on a weekly basis.
Congratulations Belcs.
If only we had several thousand more supporters of your calibre.
Spot on belcs from memory it was Ian that said saints had got it wrong. I never wanted lambert fwiw but was ok about it as Martinez wasn’t interested and he was the best of a bad bunch. I will go as far as to say he is on a par with mcleish I no il get slated for that but we only finished slightly ahead of am team last season with loads of unwanted records eg biggest hammering a etc. If am was in charge now he would not be doing any worse but because it’s am and he managed the scum we’d be screaming for his head now. Please don’t give me the mcleish anti football arguement lamberts team are just as boring and clueless especially at home. All we do is lump it up to cb and that’s it. Fwiw a houllier is the type of forward thinking manager we need but a younger and healthier version. I still think we could have succeeded with him tbh.
Your are right oohah, Mcleish is not worse than Lamberk at all, the stats prove it and in fact I found Mcleish more likeable and honest than the useless dour oaf we have now.
Houllier didn’t have the energy or health but in an advisory role should have been kept on with a young foriegn coach, someone like a Thomas Tuchel or Laudrup at the time. But then again Lerner is useless when it comes to making decisions.
Spot on Belcs. I felt a bit sorry for mcleish he would never have got away with what lambert has. It’s appalling the way we treated him tbh and like you say at least he was honest. Great shout re houllier even now he could do some scouting for us and help Lerner choose someone with a bit of flair and nous. A fit and healthy houllier would have kept us in the top 6 IMO. The only thing I hated with houllier was his continual wank fest over Liverpool.
You feel sorry for McLeish? Dear oh dear what short memories we have on this website.
It was the worst season I have ever seen down Villa Park including the Dr Jozef Venglos season. and McLeish robbed our club for millions in compensation to Blues and to the gonad himself. If he reads this website he will laugh himself to sleep in his £5m mansion……….
Well not exactly feel sorry for him but don’t think he’s any worse than lamberk
Sorry Badger mate now what i find is how Jay Dee and anyone can write anything positive about Villa or Lambert or even Lerner for that matter.Like Sir Bill Pearson have been a fan for more years than i care to admit to.Seen the good bad and indifferent but never expected the day would come when any of us would have to see the life blood of our great club with such a great history slowly drained out of it.Just because we now find our self with a owner whom knows nothing about football and a manager whom as a vision that is a recipe for disaster.Change as to come sooner rather than later and if it means Lerner and Lambert going then so be it or we and future fans will not have a club to support.Like the old saying time and tide waits for no man.Lambert as had time and money and no one can deny the fact that Lerner as not backed him he as to the tune of £40 million and yet four years on and a year and a half into Lambert time at the helm we are in a worse state than before he came.
Terry, that’s your opinion.
I think that we are better than the team that McLeish finished the season with.
Lambert has to be given at least three to four years to build.
MON had almost unlimited funds and was lauded for finishing sixth in a league that didn’t have Spurs and Citeh at the top. Lambert has brought in some excellent players, and some duds.
To say that the life blood of the club is being drained away is ridiculous. Did you go yesterday ?
Lamberk for 3-4 more years no chance at least I hope not. Look what Pinocchio has done for saints in half that time. They are miles better than us ffs and havnt spent a fortune either
How the fuck are we in a worse state?
The wage bill is lower, we have got rid of tossers like Ireland and other bludgers, we are playing better football, admittedly we lost yesterday but we should have been 3-0 up in the first half. Some days we put them away, others we fluff our chances. Swings and roundabouts. I am not saying Lambert is the answer to everything, he’s not, even I am doubting him now as he makes bizarre decisions which make no sense, but he is what we have got and all we can get to deal with it.
Can’t believe you recon we are worse off than pre-lambert. Did you go to the Bolton home defeat in McLeish’s disastrous season? Nothing is ever worse than that game where the fans proper turned on McLeish as it was one of the worst performances ever. That was the game where Randy decided McLeish was finished as he was horrified with the hatred and abuse he received.
Do you actually go to the games or just surf Villa blog sites to pick the bones out of anything to knock the club/owner/manager?
Don’t remember Bolton game being any worse than Wigan last year and Newcastle this year. And yes I went to all of them
Ok the wage bill is lower the defence us a bit better but we are not a better team than last year about the same if say. Which is fine as we should finish in the bottom six and people like you can do handstands at supporting such a successful club with the ambition if an ant!!
Ants carry up to 40 times their own weight oohagh – thats pretty ambitious
Bit like benteke carrying the weight of the team then!!
Key word you used there is SUPPORT as that is what I do. Through thick and thin. It’s the rollercoaster of being an Aston Villa fan. Wouldn’t have it any other way.
Also your comment ‘people like you’ is rather patronising. Just because I don’t always have the same opinion as you, I (who you have never met) am categorised as ‘people like you’. Disgraceful way to speak down to people. No wonder this site lacks credibility.
Just because I am a glass is half full person who looks for the good in any situation or in people that makes me a wrongern?
BELCS Mate not only me but Sir Oohah could see the writing on the wall and you are correct nothing as changed we still get comments saying give him time.
I guess the positive you can spin is that IF we have 50M to spend in the summer we have a decent squad with 5 good first team players.. add a DM AM LB Winger and we will improve..
The negative is.. i don’t think we will spend 50M in the summer 🙁
Ha ha £10 is all manager will get now. £50 m no chance unless we are lucky enough to get a takeover.
Its Lerner, NOT lambert who is instrumental in our demise. You cannot cut costs too deeply or too quickly. There must have been a more conservative way of costcutting….Randolph as a businessman must know that, so why so many drastic cuts in such a short period of time.
I am not so sure that Lerner ever cared about us. Spending peanuts, relatively speaking on cosmetics such as doing up the Holte pub and the players tunnel does fuck all for what really matters i.e.. The team!
I believe Lerner had a go at Champions League qualification because of the rich pickings he coud have pocketed. Having failed, he has now embarked on a plan that, he hopes, will merely keep us in the PL….in other words17th will suffice. It doesnt bother him, plenty of sky money and the profit from Benteke will do nicely. Kozak, bought to replace Benteke? cynical yes, but it wouldnt surprise me. We are lacking any ambition whatsoever.
Lerner is a fucking disgrace, a predator, simply looking to bleed our great club dry. Why do you think he never talks about his plans for the club going forward…..because he doesn’t have a positive one! He is a leech, moreover, a fucking ignorant one. Getting him to speak is harder than nailing custard to the ceiling…….fuck off Lerner.
The Villa is OURS, the Villa is OURS, fuck off Lerner, the Villa is OURS
We will NOT be relegated, but that is NOWHERE NEAR good enough for our great club!
Langford , I take my hat off to you sir, its them that knows and them that don’t, people like you will not let Villa die, its a shame that we have fans that are , wait for it…. sheep, wake up and be a Viilla fan, the none believes. We have a problem lads.
Lerner has backed every manager I think you will find.
Yes he made a major error with McLeish but he took the advice of Sir Alex.
There are far worse owners out there. Speak to any Blackburn or Cardiff fan.
There’s also a lot better as well talk to Everton Swansea saints and spurs
Everton have been up for sale for 10 years as no one wants to buy them due to their shit infrastructure.
I am not saying lerner is perfect, not by a long chalk, but he has put the cash up unlike the Glazers. Lerner is just misguided and misled and we are paying for it now
We can argue all day about lerner – we could have been bought by Carson Young or the Golds
Are u Lerners love child?
No more than you are bill kenrights love child ooh ahh
Hardly
You’re not right about Everton sir. Bill K has admitted that he hasn’t got the money to take them to the next level but won’t sell unless he agrees that the business plan is in the best interests of the fans. If Doug had looked a bit deeper into lerner’s track record we may have been spared the last 4 seasons. Have a look at the table now and at anytime during lamberk’s reign of misery
lol
“Sorry to say, time is running out fast as we no longer have a team that is worthy of our support.”
feel free to withdraw your support hence forth.
“Lambert must go or all we will get is seeing our club struggle year in year out. I don’t think this is what most fans want, not after the past four years.”
Thats a bold prediction considering he has done one year in.. and is currently 9 games into the year out part.
but not your concern if you withdraw your support
True but the club was on its knees with Doug and David (honest bunch of lads) o’leary. Though I don’t think anyone else that was mooted at the time were any better. That padfield qc consortium would not have been good either right bunch of nobody’s who thought they arrived.
Here we go then I will say something positive if we beat West Ham and Cardiff we will be 9th or 10th
If we are in a relegation spot by Xmas I will then have to concede it is not working and Lambert will have to try a new approach.Mid table by Xmas and everyone will have to concede we have improved on last season….UTV
We coukd be Sunderland are winning and we are only 2 points adrift Ffs
Saints have brought four players for 10M plus..
So 50M is needed.. to get the five we need…
How can they afford it and we can’t. It’s bollox that Lerner can’t afford it and that ffp us bollox to no excuses
Lads progress takes time.. i am happy ( shockingly ) with what has happened last two seasons..
IF IF IF.. next summer we have 50M to spend and can pay players 40K a week..
In that essence the plan is fine..
IF we don’t then we need to boycott the games buy no season tickets till we are told where the club is going…..
By the way is the 50M figure pie in the sky!?
I dont think so.. on average RL gives 15K a season.. add the sky money another 15M is easily available.. put the Benteke 30M in and that is well over 50M.. RL won’t be subsidising a big wage bills.. it has gone DOWN will tv money has gone UP..
AS fans we shouldn’t accept anything less next summer!!!!
Progress dosnt take that much time look at Swansea and Southampton Ffs
It does when you have to change the entire team. Neither Swansea nor Southampton had too.
Changed their manager though
That’s the thing though, correct? You’re claiming we should be spending 50-60m (made up numbers but with how much Southampton spent, it’s a guess), yet Lambert’s proving to be the problem. Lerner has his faults, 1 being he took advice from SAF, then he took advice from “fans”, took his own advice for Houllier. It’s a question of who he trusts now. He’s been wronged by all in said situation of finding a Manager. Unless he gains a huge intelligence of football within the next year, it’s not going to go well.
When we turned the clocks back yesterday did anyone wish we could of turned it back 31 years!!!
2012-2013
Swansea – 46 pts
southamption – 41 Pts
villa – 41 pts
2013- 2014 ( 9 games in)
Southampton – 18 pts
Swansea – 11 pts
Villa -10 pts
I can sort of see your point
if i ignore the meager 5 point spread that clearly shows swansea’s and southamptons obvious progress from last year
if i were to ignore the current 8 point spread 9 games into this season
– i mean what could possibly change much with just 31 games left to play.
lets also ignore the quality of opposition each team as faced in their 9 games.
after all the strength of the opposing team has no relevance in the world of football!
or at least it seems on a villa forum.
and the latest bizarre comparison .. it was everton last last week.
young Scottish manager, unproven to many given 10 years( including a few avoiding relegation) and a shoe string budget..
Yea lets copy their model and fire Lambert … after one season.
now its Swansea!
lol a team whose owner has stated that clubs aim should be turning a profit and to be financially viable an owner who took 2m of the clubs profit last year and paid it out as dividend!
meanwhile the Lerner out campaign gathers pace as his hundred million pound losses to date are simply not big enough… ???
we are a mid table team no doubt, and as said before, we will be unless money becomes less important( by some miracle FFP actually has some teeth) or we get sheik money like investment/ buyout.
Lambert is not even close to having had a enough time to fail yet.
Lerner is nowhere close to the worst owners in the prem.
its all so irrelevant nearly at this point. we won’t challenge the top boys no matter how many managers we want to fire after a year .. and no matter what you think we as fans can do about Lerner staying or going well, in order to sell, you need a buyer
In the face of this, i just support the club and try to cling to other methods in the hope they might improve us to the best of the rest.
ie we can’t spend our way to the top, so why bother criticise the price tag of our players
But we will get relegated! i hear you say .. i heard that last year .. i am hearing it again this year after 9 games and our 13th place spot
I getting the feeling that all the sensationalist lambert out .. name calling. we are shit stuff a bit tabloid like. and a tabloids main purpose is not to tell the news or even be informative or in fact all that true .. its about selling newspapers and readership
Havnt Southampton won 1.0 at anfield only team to beat them and got a 1.1 draw with utd away. Or did that slip you mind!
” Havnt Southampton won 1.0 at anfield only team to beat them and got a 1.1 draw with utd away. Or did that slip you mind!”
how can you do that ooh ahh? lol
I make a point of highlighting the difference in quality we have both faced
Ie Villa have faced -Arsenal, City, chelsea, Spurs, and Liverpool and the high flying Everton
out of which we have got 6 points.
you are stating that Southampton have faced Liverpool and Utd and getting 4 points ….
How is that evidence of Southampton s far better progress this season?
Because they didn’t take 4 points if those teams last year. Also they were in the bottom 4 this time last year now they are in top 4/5. If that’s not progress than what is?
ah here oohahh, i am sorry i still don’t get your comparison.
you are saying that as Southampton have progressed where as villa have not?.
due to
..they are in 5th after 9 games this season versus bottom 4 last season
They took points off liverpool and utd this season whereas they didn’t last season.
versus villa being 13th as opposed to bottom 4 or wherever we were this time last year
and having also taken more points from two teams we didn’t get any from last year?
so both teams are higher up the table and have taken more points from top 6 teams they have faced so far versus last year ?
the difference being..
southampton are higher wtih 8 more points but villa have played 2 more top 6 teams plus everton. not to mention one of the so called top 6 southampton got a point from currently lie 8th
i am sorry but i don’t see how Southampton should keep their manager whereas we should fire ours based on that!
Fwiw I dont think we will go down only as there are 3 worse teams than us so Lerner escapes on a shoe string yet again. At least your happy
Clearly he’d be happy with Villa just staying up. All of Colonius’s posts prove that… (NOT).
15K was meant to be 15M
How can everyone be pessimistic so early on in the season.If we beat West ham and Cardiff which those 2 teams are below us in the table so it’s easily possible we could even be 8 th…..Agree
Yes but then West Ham has the best defense from 6th down tied with Pool and better than Arsenal’s and 4th overall. Only scored 1 less than Villa as well. So it’d be a low scoring game if we win. Cardiff should be an easier game though.