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Sinking ship,do we need to go down to start again?



Submissions have been coming thick and fast of late and while we know some of you don’t like us to do too many articles in quick succession, we do like to publish as many as we can.
Witton Ryan asks what for me is an interesting, but bloody scary question;

I have been looking at what has been going on at the Villa like every one who cares for this club and asking myself a question.
Is there a way out of this down turn?
Do we need to drop out of the Premiership and start over?
If we did go down, yes we would lose some TV cash, but we would get parachute payments to help us, then we would be in a league where we could compete (I hope) and should have more wins and more joy.
Yes we would have a few people ie the Noses and the Baggies pointing at us but that would soon go.

I am not saying that I want this to happen but I look at other clubs that have been in our situation (Newcastle jumps to mind, a bad owner ripping the club apart) and I believe they came back stronger for going down.
A club of our size should be in the Premiership but we are in trouble and we are a joke. Something must change.

123 thought on “Sinking ship,do we need to go down to start again?”

  1. Thanks for posting my article Badger….was good to see, feed back was just what I wanted to see we are up for the fight…we just need some investment BIG TIME. and the team to show as much fight as the fans.

  2. It’s sad when journalists are feeling sorry for Villa. One journalist has even expressed his surprise and I guess amazement at how apathy appears to run through the fans. How certain individuals refuse to acknowledge what Lerner is doing and refusing to criticise.. Wake up Lerner is destroying the club. Again remember HE employs Lambert HE continues to believe in Lambert. So all you Lerner supporters calling for Lambets head stop being hypocritical. If you support Lerner the surely you accept his choice of manager? Lerner out

  3. None of us on here can predict the future but unless we forget about Wes hoolawank & go for someone with real ability or someone’s plural with ability I can forsee a struggle.This January transfer window is pivotal to our ending league position.If we buy some quality CM,AM & a winger we will be well ok UTV

    1. shame on u ~ hoolawank is a better player 4 aston villa than a tonev at present. while I understand ur need 4 a world class playmaker. I don’t believe we are able 2 attract one, so better we av hoolahan than rely on the clueless midfield we own now ~ only albrighton is able 2 produce a goal scoring chance. plus sumat u all are over looking is benteke and co need 2 finish um unlike the 2 glaring misses against super sheff utd

  4. Hoolahan looks to be a definite signing, i have only seen him play once at VP last season and he was a handful for our defenders. One appearance is not enough for a scout report.

    Even if he is a great signing we need a left back and a left winger as the options on that left side are what can only be described as a joke

    1. Sorry mate but Hoolawank can’t even make DU Eyerash international side he’s had his day and is a make do for Lerner skinflint fuckwit.Im Now Defour & Holtby & I will have to admit we are looking forward.Carlton Cole another crap wanker god I could ring Lerners wheezel neck…UTV

  5. Can confirm we’ve had a bid accepted for Aiden Mcgeady. Will be in the country on Wednesday for medical and to discuss personal terms.

  6. TED get your facts right LAMBERK was not Lerner,s choice he was the choice of a certain section of fans Lerner only took him on to appease them he gave them their choice backed him with£40 odd million over two transfer windows.Now it;s got to be his fault yes it is for listening to the fans.The blame for our demise is Lerner for taking notice of them and Lamberk for thinking he is a footballing god.He is just a total waste of space and should be removed.The fans refrain from chanting a certain managers name and let Lerner make his own choice as to who the manager should be.He was unlucky with Houllier because of his on going health issues.So now it;s time for Lamberk to go and Lerner to employ the man of his choice.

    1. Terry please tell me your post is a joke? Either that or you are confused. You forgot to mention Lerners other choice McLeish. You also forget Lerner is business man ask the Cleveland Browns. If you think the decisions being made are not Lerners your are naive. As for the funds given to Lambert do you not read papers or listen to interviews? Lambert has already said the figures are inflated. Posts on here also make reference to this, Lerner is the owner he makes the decisions based on a business mind intent to make money. You are suggesting he has bought a club for millions and then decided not to run it. Lerner should be the focus fans frustrations. Your pal Lerner has not attended a game for ages and refuses to engage with fans I suppose that’s Lamberts and the supporters fault? Lerner out

  7. Villa won’t go down this season.

    While I agree we have been lucky against the likes of Arsenal and Man City, it’s probably fair to say we won’t lose to teams like Fulham the second time around. The bottom half of the table is still close, no doubt about it, but it is hard to argue there isn’t 3 team worse off than us right now. Plus, Villa always finish the season strong.

    Sure the cup loss was terrible, but Lambert, Lerner, Faulkner are going no where – so perhaps it might be better to save the doom and gloom until we actually see who the club can bring in this month. Defour, Holtby, Hoolahan – some a bit far fetched for me, but all three would drastically impact the way we play. If we sign no one – well then there is only one person to blame and it isn’t Lambert.

  8. So Jack Grealish is to remain on loan at Notts County until the end of the season. He, Gary Gardner and Carruthers should have been played on Saturday in my opinion. When are we ever going to find out if these guys are good enough? Donacian should have been given a run out as well, especially after Baker dropped out. If the academy guys are not up to playing against a league one team then serious questions need to be asked. TBF they surely couldnt have done alot worse!

  9. Ted Lerner as made mistakes in Mc clueless i agree but the mess we are in now is solely Lamberks and those of you whom wanted him.Now as for Lerner out who the hell would you have own the club some bloody Carsen Yuenge or some body like Steve Morgan at Wolves how much as he invested.Mate your argument as more holes in it than a cullinder or maybe seeing you are so intent in defending Lamberk is your name really Ted or Paul Lamberk.

  10. Interestingly, Hoolahan has averaged about 1 goal in 6 games for Norwich. Anyone know the stats for our current midfield?

  11. Terry you continue to prove my point and show contradiction. I agree Lambert has not been a success and needs to go. BUT you blame me for supporting him. One person is supporting him, the man who employs him. If as you say Lambert is to blame why can’t Lerner see this? Your at odds with your views, Lerner employs Lambert to deflect from himself. Lerner out

    1. TED did i persificly say i blame you no and as for Lerner he only employed him on the back of a certain section of fans chanting his name.We all know who Lerner really wanted but at that time he reclined the job i am not by any means sticking up for Lerner he only gave the fans their choice.Yes he employs him and as given him is full backing.But those fans whom thought he was the answer to our woes are as much to blame as Lerner the only way now IMO is a clear out from top to bottom new owner or owners whom do know something about football and are prepared to install a manager with likewise knowledge.

  12. So many people saying Wes Hoolahan to be announced a Villa player in the next 48 hrs please tell me this isn’t true

    1. Not sure what you have against him JayDee. I think he is a decent player. Has proven he can play at this level so at the cost is a no-brainer to me. We need more than just him though. Can’t see Defour coming but if we got someone of his calibre as well we would see a real improvement.

  13. Jd i know it’s your opinion mate but i do believe your being abit harsh on hoolahan.ive seen him a couple of times since being promoted & i though he was pretty useful.ive said before he adds that bit of experience.i’d like to see him come in.

  14. Iv just read that Norwich have said they will not do any business involving Paul Lambert….. We’ll see………

  15. ted, you seem to say that anyone calling for lamberts head is learners best mate which is just not true, the same as it isn’t true that anyone who says anything remotely positive or optomistic about villa is supporting lambert or a ‘lamberk lemming’. I think the majority of people on here realise they’re both shit!
    and terry you cant seriously be suggesting that learner only got lambert in just because the fans wanted him in, he got him in because it suited him to do so and(for some reason)was already a popular choice among ‘some’ fans. if our influence were that easy to impilment then lambert would’ve been sacked after the Bradford debacle and learner would’ve got in mouriho or klopp and started throwing around man city type money.
    I fear we’re stuck with the pair of em for a good while to be honest.

  16. NAGUTIUS MAXIMUS think you have forgotten that OGS now at Cardiff was Lerner,s choice not Lamberk alot of fans seem to have very short memories when the shit it;s the fan.

      1. OGS was given time to mull over the position but declined eventually due to not wanting to uproot the family.pretty ironic 18mths later he’s living in wales oh well.obviously cardiff was a better option.

    1. Rather than all this bullshit speculation where only pound land signings if any come we Shoukd discuss why lamberk has not been sacked and being given money in the first place. It’s all if a sudden gone quiet on lambert we have to keep the pressure on until the mumbling mutt heat head goes

  17. Terry, you were probably fishing at the final game of McLeish’s reign, it was Norwich away and it was the whole away end that were chanting for Lambert who was incumbent at Norwich at the time.

    He was a popular choice but things really are looking poor at this moment in time.

    I doubt that relegation is likely, get on at 10/1 if you think it is.

    As for Lerner, he had a go at throwing money at the top four finish like confetti and ended up with over priced mediocrity on huge wages that took three seasons or more to clear.

    It’s easy to forget that as fans and scream that we should go spend crazy again, where does the money come from mate ? Your gate receipts ?

    We all want better for our wonderful club, but let’s hear some sensible suggestions, all I hear from you and your cronies is Lamberk and Lerner out ?

    Then what wise guy ???

  18. Vaze i was out of the country at the time but still read the papers and caught up with things on line.Now answer me this why did Lerner send his private jet to bring OGS for an interview if he had no intentions of offering him the job and why did he suddenly turn his attention to Lamberk instead of scouring the continent for a replacement for Mc Clueless.I will tell you because he was swayed by those fans chanting Lamberk,s name in hindsight we can all see this was a mistake and he should have bought in a manager from abroad.This is yet another one of Randy Lerner,s bloomers for not having anyone on the board that knows about football.

    1. Apparantly he signed for Cardiff as tan is actually a utd supporter and is happy to let him go there when moyes goes

  19. Sir Oohah the great Lamberk as not been sacked because Randy gave those fans who seen him as the Mesiah the man they chanted for i bet right now he is having a right old laugh at them as our club and fans are being humiliated time and time again.

  20. Aston Villa have been cut from 9/1 to 6/4 to sign Bradford’s Nahki Wells – SKY BET

    Wahoooooooo another poundland signing

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