I know there was talk of this a few weeks back, but the story seemed to peter out and nothing really came of it.
The Telegraph seem to have got their hands on something a bit more concrete though and they’re saying that the club have sounded out Paul Lambert and he’s receptive to signing to signing a new three year deal on improved terms.
Whatever you think of this, two things cross my mind.
The first is, what’s the rush?
Lambert is contracted until the summer of 2015 and unless you’re a club who wants a manager whose seeming best ability is to run a club on even less than a shoestring, I don’t exactly see anyone queueing up to acquire his services.
The second is, this has to be an indicator that either Randy Lerner or Paul Faulkner are ecstatic about Lambert’s performance. Well, similar to my first point, it can only be about money.
It certainly won’t be our style of football, after all, will it?
So, we’re going to be stuck with what we have now, it would seem.
A third point has just crossed my mind.
Is looking to extend the manager’s contract, when there’s no pressing need, really something an owner who is looking to sell would do?
Or is it maybe just a smokescreen to deflect away from that story?
While I can understand the club wanting stability, I can’t say I’m exactly elated about this story and I’d have left it until nearer this time next year, when we’ll be able to make a better judgement.
What price we extend his contract and are even worse next season?
Would that scenario really surprise anyone?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10615174/Aston-Villa-ready-to-offer-manager-Paul-Lambert-a-new-contract.html
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125 responses to “Villa to offer Lambert a new contract?”
Nice distraction from talking about takeovers, as some might say
Never a truer word spoken in jest Ian,
If everyone thinks the money is there then why get a donkey int he window and so desperate to get average rubbish like Hoolahan, it simply does not match up
If you believe Kendrick, we were in for someone much better than Hoolahan, but never finalized. Of course could have been told that to make it sound like Lambert knows what he’s doing.
As I said on twitter to him, heard it all before
remeber Lampard anyone, just sounds so much like the ellis days !
Complete bullshit as per usual from Kendrick who us writing as a puppet for villas pr machine. Just like Ellis days it’s easy to say you were in for Messi knowing u havnt a hope of getting him. This us appalling news re lambert and the beginning of the end as far as I’m cincerned
dont worry oohahh nothing lasts for ever!
it will be the end to the beginning of the end again some day
Ay!!
Or could it mean now most of the bomb squad are gone or will be hopefully by the summer that this shows Lerner’s intent to give lambert a big war chest? Now that Lambert has passed his “budget test” Lerner feels confident to let him go wild on transfers in the summer!
i believe adams version ~ i always thought that was the case release the bomb squad, iam not saying we will go crazy but i reckon 30~40 million
Adam and Nath…agree with you both, or at least I hope thats the case!
hoolahan was a cheap panic buy option ~ hes a player we lack. if charlie insomnia hadn’t gone awol, summer i think thats one of many positions we will strengthen . hoolahan wont be approached thou
Regardless of the manager, Lerner’s budgets are usually the same each season, roughly 20m. To be honest I really cannot see that rising anytime soon without additional investment into the club, although I do feel come summer Lambert will now be able to spend that money on 2-3 players rather than 6-7.
I understand the criticism of lambert as a manager i just never understant or hear much of an alternative ..
Lambert is tactically inept fire him
we are winning more games then last season or the season before that but he isn’t improving enough
Lambert is the problem but Lerner is the problem ..
I think Lambert is a young unproven manager that is making plenty of mistakes while still incrementally getting more points year on year on a shoe string budget
As a Villa fan i am delighted to see the criticism of lamberts mistakes. We shouldn’t just accept anything but i think to fire Lambert or say that he has proven not good enough after the last 18 months is just off the mark for me.
especially considering the alternative which is nothing .. name a manager that is better than Lambert that would come in .. that would inherit this squad and would work under Lerners budget..
That is very unrealistic.
why are so eager to fire every manager that isn’t an instant success?
as for the contract
i am actually confused at this
I think the time for contract extensions is right before summer or early post season.
Why the rush now?
Colonius…thats just a longer version of what I said this morning….why use 50 words when 3000 words will suffice 🙂
apologies langford my thoughts are slower and longer but similar
Vaze anything else you’d like to add to that. 🙂
i enjoyed the rant lmao
in fact i av enjoyed everyones contribution 2day,
Saw a picture of it, so I’ll take a look. But you’re probably right.
Spent Sold Net Spend
£18,500,000 £2,000,000 £16,500,000
£25,700,000 £2,000,000 £23,700,000
However those are the figures from his 2 years so far.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html
Sorry, he’s had a competitive transfer budget.
lol woh woh woh.. when did Benteke’s fee go from 7.5m to 10?
and luna,Sylla and helenius was also closer to 1m .. these figures are very approximate and tend to round up more so than down.
even still ..
lets say we take these figures at face value
we have spent 20m a season
we are currently 10th.
who have we outspent in 9th,8th,7th,6th and so on where should we be in the table?
using the same table
Southampton – avg 33m
Newcastle – after cabaye’s sale, we have spent far more then newcastle
Man utd – about 50m+ avg the last 2 seasons
Spurs –
you have to take your hat off to levy!
they are making net profits the last two years –
Everton – sell to buy the last decade!
Liverpool –
30m avg per season under rogers
should i even bother to go any further than that?
I am not going to coz that would mean people expected Villa to compete for top 4 by now this far into Lamberts reign
i am not going to dignify that argument or at least not in this post
So Lambert has spent less than Spurs, everton of the team above us.
Can anyone spot the differences between us and those two clubs?
Spurs .. had a top 50 squad before Lambert came to villa.
and benfited enormously from shrewd buying in the preceding years.
They also have a much bigger wage structure
Everton –
Its true they sell to buy and if you compare Lamberts spending then we should be doing better or similar to everton this year?
the thing with everton is they didn’t spend much net each season but they didn’t fire their managers after 18months either.
If we want to learn from them i say we learn patience.
all in all
what does this very approximate table tell us?
To me at least it doesn’t scream FIRE HIM
it says we are par for the course possibly on target for small year on year progress while getting closer to breaking even each time ?
i still don’t see a huge argument for immediate sacking.
and i have yet to see one solid realistic alternative if we did sack him
My argument wasn’t about firing him.
My whole argument has always been he’s gotten money and the fact all I read is it’s Lerners fault because Lambert hasn’t spent is completely false.
I never expected anything above 10th this season, however I didn’t expect us to become the most defensive team in the league, and still concede a fair amount. But I never wanted him, so I’m just gonna stick with that last bit. 😉
Great news!! Put him on an 8 year contract and rewind Villa into the dark ages.
If he stays in charge we’ll be playing with a pigs gut ball, have 20 players on the pitch and the outfield players will start using their hands again.
Just when you thought AVFC under Lerner couldn’t be a bigger embarrassment this news comes along.
Said before I’d rather the club die than have Lamberk in charge any longer.
Way to go Lerner, offer the worst manager in the club’s history an extension. At this extremely low point you can only laugh at the ineptitude of everyone at the club.
Though the remaining sheep in the Lamberk fan club will be happy, so they can keep sucking up to his every mumbled word.
Spot on Belcs
Laudrup sacked…fancy him for Villa? would love to see his style of footy at VP
really swansea sacked him ??iam shocked
on way 2 sky sports
now thats a panic decision ~ yes they av lost form bad results. but to sack him that could come back 2 haunt the swans
laudrup sacked? really? you’d love to see his style of footie at villa? seriously? he and swans have been woeful since they landed the league cup almost a year ago. you think he’d come in and get our squad playing pretty football? he’d get us relegated maybe.
I said earlier people were crying out last season ‘why cant we have a manager like laudrup?!’
he and swans have been just awful this season, along with this I think they’ve spunked quite a bit of cash too.
I said earlier too that this may be a reason as to why contract talks are being had at this stage to keep the long list of teams that in the near future will be looking for new managers, basically any team outside of the top 7/8 could sack their manager by the end of the season.
Laudrup is hot property. Wee really should get him in, seriously like
Yes….REALLY, I would love to see his style of football at VP…do you prefer hoofball then?..Its the Europa thats screwed up Swansea IMO….much like the cup done to Wigan last season. His resources are fairly limited too. If Lerner backed him, he would be great for Villa. Its all about opinions of course 🙂
sacking managers now without any windows 2 freshen up, bring their own ppl in ~ this is a BIG mistake ~ iam behind lambert but summer comes he needs 2 add quality cos when need 2 play more football less up and unders
swansea play cardiff weekend lose that they could be history
seeing swans play this season and last from the cup win onwards I have seen nothing to suggest that they play this awesome fantastic football, what ive seen is very poor performances for quite some time.
and of course I don’t like hoof ball, who does.
and he bought shelvey a bigger spunk bubble of a player you’d be hard pressed to find and the 12 mil on boney hasn’t looked too sharp either.
imo of course 🙂
Bony has done ok and Michu is a big muss
agreed tbf to bony and of course no michu has been massive.
Plus they’ve been in Europe a poisoned chalice if ever there was one
Paul Lambert really does split opinion, doesn’t he?
I knew this subject would cause a good debate and so it’s proved, with good points on either side.
Me, I really don’t know what to think, as I can see a bit of both sides.
I’ve just read Matt Kendrick’s opinion article and noticed this paragraph;
“Paul Lambert, who by common consensus has had the hardest part of the claret and blue credit crunch to deal with, has still been afforded a net transfer spend of £40 million spread across two seasons. There is a willingness from the board to continue this kind of outlay on transfer fees in future windows, while each target’s wage demands will be decided on an individual basis.”
Thanks Randy, that’s big of you given the club will receive an EXTRA £30 million per year from this season!
I suspect that is nearer the reason for the position we’re in.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/mat-kendrick-comment-aston-villa-6669384
I’m in total agreement with n m laudrup would be an unmitigated disaster at vp.
Bad enough getting that lot down there to run round for 90 minutes and then simply pass the ball to someone in a claret and blue shirt is beyond them most weeks, heaven forbid they try something more demanding.
Laudrup? Thanks but no thanks (perhaps in the summer and then only if Randy’s going to throw about £100m at it).
unfortunately theres absolutely no reason why randy would give laudrup or anyone else who comes in any more money than he gives lambert.
hopefully if we do spend 20/30 mil in the summer we will be spending it on 2/3 players max not 23 players.
Agree totally mate and if the fellas such hot property why’s he holding his p45?
Not convinced with his credentials anyway, Swansea, a project started by Martinez continued by Rogers and under laudrup the wheels have come off.
Bet the LEMMINGS are happy at this news.Sir Oohah we won;t be able to shut them up now look out for them holding a street party to celebrate.
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TJ…street party?….great idea mate. Post your address in the space below! 🙂
ahh ive just realised wtf the TJ comment is about, its his template ready for when we beat west ham at the weekend 😉
40 mil…should make us really competitve…as long as its spent wisely of course. I would settle for Bertrand, Vlaar and Benteke staying, Okore fit plus 30 mil. I think that would be fair. But will Randy go that extra mile or is it still a ‘transitional period’?…god, how I have come to detest that phrase. We can then judge Lambert fully this time next year.
Laudrup spent £25m on Pablo Hernandez, Bony & Shelvey,
Take Michu away from the Swansea side of the last season or two, and they are very ordinary. They only won the cup because they had their ballmen wasting time and getting opponents sent off.
Look at Saints, £40m for Wanyama, Osvaldo & Lovren, five goals between them. Kozak & Bacuna have four each ! People were whingeing that we were being left behind by both of these sides in the Summer, not really.
I’m not totally sold on Lambert, well let’s be honest, some of the, sorry, nearly all of the football has been turgid, but he must have something, surely ?
Back him for another season or so and see where we are. I wouldn’t want any other Premiership manager outside the top seven.
Too much moaning, and no alternate proposals offered.
Take benteke out of our side last season and we’d be down
Possibly but we won games this season without him.
My best case scenario for this season was eighth and that’s still technically possible. Newcastle and Saints will fall away.
How will we fare ?
i think 8th is optimistic for me.
but now that cabaye is gone form nufc ..
it could be game on
But the point is Lambert DID buy him so how’s about a bit of credit when it’s due?
Fair point.
And he kept him against what seemed all odds in the Summer too.
take benteke out?
didn’t he try to leave .. i wonder who stopped him
Well yes, but Bony was looked at as well. If we didn’t sign Benteke, we had other alternatives.
Shelvey controlled the match against us not seen any other Swansea games, Laudrups problem was not the football but the fact none of his strikers could finish.
Bony has got to be the over rated buy of last summer.
He could be the anti thesis to spending money! what did he cost 12m or something?
he had 30 odd goals last season in Holland
then Osvaldo – 15m
pape cisse 10-12 m half season wonder!
plenty of duds out there.
when we want our club to spend figures like 40m etc in one summer. too often we don’t take account of the dud that happens almost every year to every club .. how much are we willing to lose each transfer budget to the dud? to the 1 in 3 that fail?
lots of our signings could be duds but then they cost peanuts comparatively speaking to today’s prices. so they won’t prevent us from spending in future.
Of our most expensive buys according to the table some one provided earlier
Benteke – 10m ( it really was more like 7m but whatever)
Okore 4m injury means we can’t say this was a bad decision yet
kozak 5m – had 4 goals for us before he got injured same as benteke had at the time but from less games
then you have lowton, Vlaar and bacuna on 3m mark ish
Vlaar is success for me
Bacuna -still not convinced he is a failure – he needs a consitent position.
Lowton – could well and truly be a one season wonder.
you can pull
guzan ( probably the best signing we have made with benteke – all Lamberts doing too)
Helenius – not played enough to judge as a waste of money yet.
Steer – tribunal fee
but not a waste of money, merely long term youth keeper
If you were to call the rest failures
have we done that badly?
if the idea was always to completly rebuild the squad ..
reduce wages etc
i don’t see our transfer strategy to be as bad as all that.
still not risk free .. but possibly a lot less risky than the big 10-15m signing
i was one them (holds hand up) i definitely thought and posted. swansea are streets ahead of aston villa, i did mean football played not size of clubs
Off the subject, Fulham look shit here against the Blades.
They’re going down I reckon.
What a bloody disaster that was losing to them, the cup is opening up nicely with the draw.
vaze and Langford, agreed guys.