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  1. nath
    nath September 19, 2013 at 1:50 pm .

    I watched the man utd and Bayern leverkussan, noticed their 2 fullbacks pushed rite up, as wingers when in possession. when they lost the ball utd had no problems engaging their 2 centre backs, I thought this was very similar 2 our problem,

    wot worried me against Newcastle was how we switched from working through midfield and started hitting long balls which was easlier 4 toon 2 defend, thou we didn’t or wasn’t allowed 2 play first half we made enough and wasted golden chances, gabby 4 one should av scored

    keep the faith ~ our boys will pick up 3 points against norwich

  2. Lionheart
    Lionheart September 19, 2013 at 4:24 pm .

    Lads like a broken record i will keep saying it.. it is our MIDFIELD.. it is shite..

    NO GOALS and NO CREATIVITY.. get rolled over all the time.. we haven’t addressed it.. IF we had brought a DM and AM rather then Kozak Bacuna Helenuis etc we would be sorted..

    This Kozak must be the business for us to sign him when other areas needed addressing..

    Can’t believe some of you lot want to play 4-4-2 with two wingers.. one it doesn’t work and.. two we don’t have any classy wingers and three it will leave our middle two even more exposed..

    Only formation i can see us playing with Benteke and Kozak.. is with Bacuna and Tonev wide but tucking in and helping Sylla and Delph who just sit.. not ideal IMO..

    Esp considering Bacuna was pants against Liverpool..

    Why the F Tonev didn’t start in the cup i have no idea..

    1. Andrew
      Andrew September 19, 2013 at 4:27 pm .

      So kinda like a 4-2-2-2? Helenius wants to play the AM spot, flabbergasted why he hasn’t gotten the chance. I don’t expect any changes against Norwich as the team suits away games.

      1. Lionheart
        Lionheart September 19, 2013 at 6:02 pm .

        Andrew yes it is like a 4-4-2.. i meant if we MUST play them two up top thats the only way i can think..

        We needed a player like Mohamed Saleh who plays for Basle.. a winger who can score and create..

        Our best hope is that Tonev turns out to be decent and so does Kozak and next summer we get in the AM and DM but instead of bargain buys it is two players who will push us into the top half of the tanble..

        1. Andrew
          Andrew September 19, 2013 at 6:29 pm .

          So you think we have no hope of any signings in January then? Popov’s still heavily, heavily linked with us and he’d be an immense signing, I do like the 4-2-2-2 option though. Gabby and Weimann not as true wingers but as AM’s that will run the flanks but also allow the fullbacks to run the wings and have Delph and Sylla actually covering them. That’s really all we need right now, is someone to cover the fullbacks runs.

          Salah would have been a huge signing if we got him, though the way he’s played I wouldn’t be surprised if a CL team came in for him next summer, if not in January depending on how Basle do.

          1. Lionheart
            Lionheart September 20, 2013 at 3:35 pm .

            Andrew.. where in my post have a i said i have no hope for signings in Jan.. strange remark.. my first point was about 4-4-2 being not a great fit for us.. the second about next summer was the fact that this season it would be nice if couple of players become good and next summer we get the required players in AN and DM.. obv if we can get those players in jan.. even better 🙂

    2. Bill Pearson
      Bill Pearson September 19, 2013 at 4:42 pm .

      Lionheart I’ve given up saying we have no creative midfield players, one man deserves to be called a midfield man Delf, all they think of is trying to find Benteke, I don’t see a fat lot difference from last year to be honest, I’m just going to give that team 4 more games before I start firing off to get rid. I never thought I would see the day that we Aston Villa would end up being a joke.

      1. Saddened
        Saddened September 19, 2013 at 5:25 pm .

        WE are so far away from the top half of the table it is a joke we buy players not to fill gaps or improve our team, we buy players who we think will make Lerner money… its a fricking joke no Gareth Barry but lets buy a centre forward on deadline day….this post is not negative it is realist ….

        1. marvin
          marvin September 19, 2013 at 6:49 pm .

          You do know by making Lerner money the players will have to improve for him to make any sort of profit? Which ultimately suggests they will improve the team as a whole.

          As for Barry, he had one good game so it may be too early to judge if he still has it. Lets see if he either keeps up the form and/or finishes the season without injury. Personally I doubt it.

          1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath September 19, 2013 at 8:48 pm .

            Barry at 50% less than he used to be is still different class to what we have now

          2. marvin
            marvin September 19, 2013 at 10:34 pm .

            If the club was looking for a quick fix sure, but they are not. Although, I will admit most of my fears so far have been with our midfield. I expect changes for the Norwich game.

  3. Lionheart
    Lionheart September 19, 2013 at 5:17 pm .

    Big few games coming up for us…

  4. Lambert OUT
    Lambert OUT September 19, 2013 at 6:30 pm .

    Just watching the Swansea game and it got me thinking.
    Michael Laudrup has been at Swansea exactly the same time as Lambert has been at Villa.
    They look far more organised and have better players than Villa.
    £40m Lambert has spent to get us where exactly?
    Cue the critisim from the ‘young, hungry, vibrant and transional period’ brigade!
    Lambert out.

    1. Bill Pearson
      Bill Pearson September 19, 2013 at 7:00 pm .

      Lambert out I am watching the game and its 442, as you said far more wanting and eager than us, good entertaining game.

      1. nath
        nath September 19, 2013 at 8:18 pm .

        lambert out
        Swansea hadn’t been miss managed for years, so when laudrup walked in he hasn’t changed very much. cos Rodgers layed the foundations and Martinez added too.
        where if u look at us we av been stop start since Oneil left ~ anyways 4 games gone and we are doomed again pity u lot never mentioned this pre season, I think we could find our nxt manager here on this site may OohAhPaulMcGrath he has great ideas so wasted on ere

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 19, 2013 at 8:50 pm .

          Agree mate but I turned them down £50k a week for wasn’t enough lol

    2. Villan1
      Villan1 September 19, 2013 at 7:37 pm .

      Its a fair point, Rodgers and Laudrup have both been in the job same time as Lambert. Both Liverpool and Swansea now have stronger squads and are improving, continuing to invest and build for the future. As for AVFC, we’re no better than 12 months ago, kidding ourselves that some magical turnaround is coming.
      Lets wait for the start of next season, has quickly become lets wait until Christmas, and will become wait to the end of the season. And repeat again next season, thats if we still have our PL status.

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath September 19, 2013 at 8:49 pm .

        Even Steve Clarke had a better year at WBA ffs

    3. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 19, 2013 at 8:47 pm .

      Agree mate it’s appalling and even worse is there is fuck al we can do about it. People buy st far to early as club heavily promotes we ought to buy a week before season next year and see who’s come in or not in our case

  5. marvin
    marvin September 19, 2013 at 7:08 pm .

    Norwich (A), Spurs (Cup), Man City (H), Hull (A), Spurs (H), Everton (H)

    Personally, Norwich and Hull should be wins given our away form and opposition. Spurs will be a true test for Lambert and the squad in both games, although I do wonder if the Europa games will cause them issues in the League or Cup. Man City and Everton could easily end up a draw, but the team will have to shake their fear of playing at home first.

    I like look of our November – December fixtures though. Unlike last year, I think we could all use something to cheer about come the holidays.

    1. marvin
      marvin September 19, 2013 at 7:15 pm .

      ^ Sorry that was for Lionheart’s last comment.

      “I like the look of our…”

  6. Benno
    Benno September 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm .

    I agree that Benteke/Weiman would make a nice partnership, but if we play 4-2-3-1 with Benteke up top, Weimann right, Gabby left and Tonev just in behind, we are basically playing that front 4 anyway…

  7. Badger123
    Badger123 September 19, 2013 at 10:55 pm .

    Surprised some are questioning Guzan kicking it long all the time.
    That’s blatantly down to Lambert’s instruction.
    A fairly young goalie would quickly see that it doesn’t work.
    Whereas a set in his ways manager wouldn’t.
    I’ve no doubt where the problem lies re that one.

    I’ve thought about this a lot and while I’ve never really been a Lambert fan, I’ve always tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.
    But I’m getting this impression that he isn’t going to be our messiah.
    He’s doing a reasonably good job, given the crap resources he’s having to work with, but I just can’t get away from that old saying “you pay peanuts, you get monkeys”.

    While I like the look of some of our players, I see very few that have signs of consistency.
    Are inconsistent players good enough in the Prem?
    I have serious doubts.

    Delph (as much as I’ve always rated him) was looked on by many as garbage a while back.
    Has he really improved that much, or is it just that the average player around him makes him look better, for example?

    I think the biggest single problem for me is the schoolboy tactics, when we’re struggling.
    It’s just embarrassing, imo.

    A fluid 4-2-3-1, for me, but not with our current players.
    When the wide backs can’t defend, you’ve no hope.

    Hence 4-4-2 has a slight appeal in that we could play 2 lbs and 2 rbs.
    Trouble is, we’d still get pissed on in those areas.

    Only joking chaps.
    Just a bit frustrated atm.

    1. Bill Pearson
      Bill Pearson September 20, 2013 at 7:52 am .

      Badger123, frustrated or not a lot of sence in what you said, I totally agree on what you’re saying on Delf, I never thought at one stage he would stick out a mile as being man of the match in any games, so is it saying the rest are under average? and the manager is under par in football knowledge in the game, I’ve always wonder what do the coaching staff know because they are the people that teach, and a manager puts it altogether, have you and I ever heard of a manager sacking his staff because of bad results? I don’t think I have, Aston Villa should not be like they are in England’s second city, something is totally wrong when it comes to Villa. As I’ve said I’m giving it 4-5 more games then the knives will come out on Lambert’s ideas in the game. Frustrated Bill.

      1. BWS
        BWS September 20, 2013 at 8:16 am .

        Morning Bill, l was in the Trinity last Saturday and hearing a lot of comments at half time I think the crowd is already starting to turn and as you say give it another 4 to 5 games with no sign of improvement and Lamberts going to be right in trouble.

        1. Saddened
          Saddened September 20, 2013 at 11:12 am .

          An owner that sanctions transfers only if they are cheap and he can make a few quid = selling club, a Manager with no plan B and a CEO with no clue of football… Recipe for eventual relegation, but as we are in transition I will wait till Xmas to make my judgement LOL

        2. Bill Pearson
          Bill Pearson September 20, 2013 at 11:54 am .

          Morning BWS, your the same as me , I just cannot see where the hell we’re going , its as somebody said the other day, I’ll give it till the end of the season, I’ll give it till xmas , I’ll give it 10 games, its got to stop somewhere ffs, I’m mistified to what’s going on.

          1. Saddened
            Saddened September 20, 2013 at 12:00 pm .

            Nothing is going on Bill thats the problem, we are the most stagnant club in the premiership. My Italian mate asked me the other day ‘whats going on at Aston Villa’ and I just couldn’t answer him… so sad !

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath September 20, 2013 at 5:14 pm .

              Sad fact is we havnt just stood still wev gone backwards

    LAMBERT OUT HESKEY IN September 20, 2013 at 6:33 am .

    Worst Villa team I’ve ever seen we’re a bag of shite

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