McCormack to Sunderland on loan? NO and loans in general

The story is that Ross McCormack is going on loan to Sunderland and if you believe the sources, he’s begun personal talks with the club.

I’ve been thinking about this one on and off all day and it’s frankly bugging me.
Ok, I’ve suggested previously that I believe after “Gate-gate” the relationship between the player and Steve Bruce has almost certainly irretrievably broken down.
I still think this and am convinced McCormack will have looked at Bruce’s comments at the time and thought to himself that he was being kicked when he was at his lowest ebb.
Which is a view I do have some sympathy for.

But Bruce is generally known as a good man-manager.
Perhaps he actually felt that Ross just needed a good kick up the proverbial for his own good and was trying to do him a favour?
I’m not really convincing myself about that point, to be honest.
Whatever, we probably only heard a fraction of the real story and will never get to hear all the facts.

So on the assumption that McCormack has told Bruce to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine, the only option is that we have to let McCormack go.
I totally understand that.
But what I don’t understand is why we’d let him go out on loan.

Apparently, no-one is willing to get anywhere near the £12-15 million or whatever it was that we paid for him.
Fair enough. He’s aging, apparently is trouble and was frankly poor last season. I understand thet too.
But letting him go out on loan could really be a worse option than just selling him on the cheap, in my opinion.

I know Sunderland are predicted by many to really struggle this season.
But what if McCormack feels really fired up and goes on to have a great season, banging in say, 20+ goals and helps them get promoted over us?
How stupid would our decision to loan him out look then?
And then we could take him back, when Sunderland deem that he isn’t good enough for the Premiership?
Where we’d still have to pay his monstrous wages and he wouldn’t want to play for Bruce (if indeed he’d still be our manager)?

Ok, that’s a worst case scenario. But football’s a funny old game.
Get rid, once and for all, in my opinion. Whatever the cost.
And do the same for the other usual suspects.

And then I said last night that I’d give my opinion on loans in general.
Most of you probably know that I’m not a fan.
And the reason I say that is because I utterly fail to see the point.

Let’s look at some recent examples;
Baker, went to Bristol. As it happens, I could see the point in this one.
Same league and was showing signs of progress for us (in my opinion), but couldn’t get a game.
Gardner. Showed next to nothing for us, so loaned out to Forest, where he does well. Comes back shows nothing again.
He obviously doesn’t fit our system, so he has to go. It would seem at least someone at the club agrees. So a total waste of time, yet I’ll bet we were paying at least some of his wages.
Johnstone, comes to us and was rubbish, but improved with more games (or a better defence?). Obviously deemed not good enough for Manure, yet they loan him to us again, where his contract is up at the end of the season, so they’ve effectively given him to us.
Again, what’s the point?

Who has gone out on loan for us and has come back vastly improved?
I can’t think of anyone and if you can, I’ll bet you can’t name many more.

No, I’m just not keen on the idea, except maybe for under 20’s and even then, my opinion is that they shouldn’t go more than a league lower than the club’s current position.
If they can’t cut it there, get rid.

For any player to go out on loan, it says to me that he might learn more than he’s going to learn at the Villa. And I don’t see how that should be right.

Perhaps then, a better solution might be for the higher club’s second string to play at a higher level, say two divisions down, like the likes of Barca and Real, etc?
But that means even more elitism, which I’m not a fan of either.
I’ve just thrown the thought out there, that’s all.

Like I said, I’m not a fan.
At best it helps a club out temporarily, but benefits the loaning club even more, if we’re talking real top level.
But otherwise, it’s a totally pointless exercise, in my opinion.


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    GIDDYVILLAN July 26, 2017 at 5:51 pm .

    Can’t see the point of bringing ojo this Liverpool youngster in when we’ve got some useful youngster ourselves.

  2. nath
    nath July 26, 2017 at 6:42 pm .

    sunderland want a player like mcCormack but don’t want the risk of paying a transfer fee for him. BULLSHIT. they don’t want to cough up the money tightarses. they know we are desperate to offload. whether we like it or not, they are rivals in the same league. i don’t think they will do much this term. but why should we be seen helping them. they have parachute money plus haven’t they sold 3 players for loads of millions.but still crying poverty,

    if we don’t get promoted this year, his wages will be crippling us for years & hindering our chances. the club should be spreading the word about our intentions of accepting 4mill to 6mill for him that’s all hes probably worth. somebody will snap him up for that hes a guaranteed goalscorer.

  3. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson July 26, 2017 at 8:08 pm .

    Nath, dead right mate, its ok for them to rake money in on parashoot money and then beg from other clubs, how fair is that to cap clubs like Villa over spending when the likes of Man utd, city all the effluent clubs get off Scot free in fiddling the rules, Villa breaks all records in championship crowds that rake far more to the FA and lower clubs but looked on as shit in business. The FA have must have a dislike to our Club for some reason. or have I had to many whisky tonight.

    1. nath
      nath July 27, 2017 at 5:14 am .

      i don’t know the reason but it stinks. if utd or chelsea were relegated they wouldn’t receive ffp limits. only need to look at transfers now by them clubs. 70 million offers for player. somewhat dwarfs villa spending on the WHOLE squad. even levi spuds wanker is moaning that this is getting out of hand.

      i can seriously see somebody getting hurt. i hope its not us. cause we have over stretched lately. if we fail this season. we could be in for some rough seasons. but the way the clubs in prem are spending that could ruin a club for good. was no more adios

      btw have birmingham city always been shit lmao even in our worst we are still better than the scum . thats gotta hurt them knowing they are always shit and always gonna be. silver lining

    GIDDYVILLAN July 27, 2017 at 7:49 am .

    I see the SCUM only managed a 1-1 draw with Kidderminster harriers my mate who went said they put out a strong team 😁 UTV

    1. Hitchens 60
      Hitchens 60 July 27, 2017 at 9:38 pm .

      Wolves lost 2-0 to Shrewsbury and the fans weren’t happy – friendlies eh!

  5. nath
    nath July 27, 2017 at 7:08 pm .

    i haven’t looked on villa news or here. i predict cissohko transfers nearly completed like it was three weeks ago can somebody tell me what is the hold up

  6. nath
    nath July 27, 2017 at 7:36 pm .

    tishbola has been loaned to mk dons

  7. nath
    nath July 27, 2017 at 8:11 pm .

    We have had loan bid accepted for Sheyi Ojo with 3 other clubs

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