The Press Association and the Mail are reporting that Paul Lambert’s assistants have indeed been sacked, just as the speculation has been saying.
What the reports are not saying however are the reasons, other than Lerner’s quote that it was something that “could have set the club back”.
We know there were accusations of bullying, but I don’t particularly see how this would have set the club back in the way it was inferred.
Of course, the illegal taking of drugs would indeed set a club back.
We do also know that it was reported that senior members of a major football club were allegedly spotted sniffing something in an opposing team’s boardroom.
I’m putting two and two together and guessing Karsa and Culverhouse were indeed the subjects of the report.
Now while I have a major dislike of illegal drugs for various reasons, I also take the view that what people do in private, is entirely up to them.
Except this wasn’t in private, was it?
How ridiculously stupid to get caught as they were.
Hence good riddance, if indeed it was them.
It wouldn’t surprise me if this was the reason that Lerner finally decided to throw in the towel.
While I’m not exactly sure of the timeline of things lately, Randy must have at least been wondering what the hell is going on at the club (along with most of us fans).
Just my own personal opinion, which could well be wrong, of course.
I would change the tone of this Badger … libellous …
A strong rumour on VT suggests a training ground bust up and we will never know for certain.
What I do know is that these two were very close to Lambert, he lost control of them and has (yet) paid no price for it.
nah, purely personal opinion Ian.
They can sue me. It won’t get them much money, that’s a cert.
ha ha !
Well anyway it shows how much (lack) control Lambert had over his mates … however guess Lambert luvvies will still defend him
Here’s something libellous everyone Ian Robbo has bought an Apple Mac despite knocking Apple fans over the years he has admitted defeat and come to the dark side eating tons of humble pie 🙂
Lol! Macs, u less you are a designer, are overpriced luxuries that ‘look nice’. Style over substance…Robo is rumbled!!!
Exactly what Robbo said before he joined the mac brigade. Allegedly of course
fact I have had 3 PC’s in 4 years all with motherboard/disk issues. Plus Windows 8 really is a complete bag of shite isn’t it ?
But after all your apple fan abuse Ian you should hold your head in shame
I thought you were worth billions, badgers get a lot of money towards their upkeep these days 🙂
I certainly wouldn’t want to be the one who published that allegation. As the previous comment suggested, this is libellous.
Get in their badger FUCK em Terry Jones & co bring it on mate, them 2 were up to something bollox to this training ground bust up they happen frequently on most grounds you don’t hear the word suspension to often.especially managerial staff
Badgers are a protected species giddy.
Nice one MATE.
Hmm, the Daily fail are reporting two seperate investgations.
I wonder what that means?
Have I missed something? I have only seen that Culverhouse has been sacked and that Karsa issue is still under investigation.
BBC sport saying Karza had already been sacked
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-sack-ian-culverhouse-7168586
I know for a FACT that Culverhouse was under investigation for swearing at fans behind the dug out. One of my friends reported him to the club for it. He wouldnt have normally taken offence but his children were in earshot and the expletives were colourful to say the least. I would hazard a guess that there were considerable number of complaints from the same incident. As for any other misdemeanors,I cant comment, but if the drug allegations are true, I say good riddance!……I think it was during the Palace game.
Langford- you have gone very quiet on the ‘information’ you know about the take over….
Not really. I stick by what I said. The new owners have yet to be mentioned on here and the new manager will have Turkish connections. Be prepared to be pleasantly surprised by the end of May/beginning of June!
Will you put all posters a pint if your wrong Langford
I am like everyone else in that I dont know if I’m right or wrong. Just passing on some info that I’ve heard. I am NOT ITK, nor do I wish to be. As they say, the chase is often better than the kill……!
Free pints all round then thanks Langford 🙂
No way oohah!….would hate to be accused of making you happy…..it wouldn suit you mate!
🙂
If what you say to ooh ah is true Langford why can you not just say what you think you know? Ie name the manager and owner?
Langford. Is it Tevfik Arif ?
Badger – as far as the ‘drugs’ allegations are concerned, the story in the Guardian/Observer had a follow-up, and it seemed to suggest that it related to Leeds Utd. – the timing of the suspensions at VP was merely an unfortunate coincidence.
Whatever these two were supposed to have done, I really don’t think it was anything to do with that story.
Ah, I didn’t read that.
In which case, I’m very happy to retract that part of the story.
Not that I said it was true.
More like me putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.
I must admit, I did think Karsa and Culverhouse were a bit old for that sort of thing 🙂
It definitely seems it was two seperate incidents though, the way I’m reading things.
One was probably bullying, so what was the other?
Perhaps the swearing at fans, having thought about it.
Your never to old to have a dabble you should drink in some of the pubs over here mate. 😉
Drug taking is prevalent everywhere and mainly never causes a problem. (Apart from the production line effect). Anyone remember the Dalian Atkinson expose in the NOTW??? The only way I can see them getting sacked over the alleged behaviour, is if they were caught and it would have bought shame on the club but its hardly gonna bring the Villa to its knees! Couple of years back I was told by a Papperazzi about regular similar habitual use by two England regulars based in London. He could have been spouting bollocks obviously…
Bum bum drugs are rife now in I would say most workplaces mate I’m afraid to say.
Aye. But I’ve come across many more whose life is damaged by booze.
Agreed MATE.
Sort of watching the CL final.
AM go one up, RM score in the last minute of extra time.
I’d put the bank on RM winning this.
Totally bent, but that’s entertainment, as the Jam would say.
And beginning to get boring, imo.
And Real have just scored 🙂
And then no AM mids ran back to help out for a slow built up goal?
Haha, total joke.
They may be knackered, but wtf?
Complete with a near punch up.
It followed the script perfectly.
This is what we’re buying into nowadays 🙁
Whether this is related but a couple of weeks back i was informed by a mate who spoke to someone who works at bodymoore heath and a certain young defender who missed the last x amount of games is an alcoholic and may of played whilst pissed and may of been sent to rehab
Assuming you mean Nathan Baker, I don’t believe that was the problem, but could be wrong.
Now if it had been a couple of years back, with Richard Dunn being mentioned…..
Baker didn’t miss the last few games. Rumours like this are often just rumours. TBF at times the whole back four played as if they were pissed.
Just the back four???????
Nearly amended that before sending as the same thought struck me Giddy!
Maybe thats herd?
And if it’s true about the young defender being a pisshead, you just have to wonder EVEN MORE at what the hell has been going on at the club.
Weren’t much kop anyways good riddance fuck nuts and a big fuck off from me now how do we get rid of curly now Moe &Larry are gone UTV
JD if they were not much cop how come Lambert employed them at every single he was at ?
If you are a Lambert Luvvie you can not escape that fact and if you are not then you would agree Lambert had to go for lack of control and management.
If we get a proper coaching staff in under these circumstances I doubt very much
Dear me……Lack of control…..They got the sack mate.
So I act up and my manager gets the sack too? Blimey, if that were the case there would be ALOT of businesses in court and losing!!!
Anything to have a pop at Lambert eh. Its getting reeeeeeally boring now.