Wolves 2 – 0 Villa; That was poor

You know your side is struggling when both strikers get subbed off and Hutton looks your most attacking player, don’t you?

Good grief, I thought that game was horrendous and we came away with what we deserved, which was absolutely nothing.

It’s genuinely not sour grapes against Wolves, as I have nothing at all against them, but I really don’t think they were as good as Sky seemed to be making out. It’s more that I thought we made it far too easy for them.

Don’t get me wrong, for the first half I found myself often wondering if we might do a smash and grab, but always had the nagging doubt that you just can’t play a game constantly defending and expect to not concede.
And when Wolves did score, you just knew it was game over.

What’s annoyed me most is the fact that our midfield was totally non-existent and created nothing. Well, it couldn’t could it, when it was just an extension of our defence?
You have to blame Bruce for that, as that’s no doubt how he set us up.
That said, there are mitigating circumstances as we were without a recognised Left back, which was always going to cause us a problem.
Adomah was basically totally nullified because he had to spend too much time covering the position and without his threat I though we didn’t look balanced.
Of course, you have to ask who left us with only one Left back in the first place?

So Wolves got the goal and then eased off somewhat, which seemed to let us back in the game. Not that we offered any major threat, a Snodgrass free kick apart. And we got caught again in what might have been a more realistic situation if we’d played how we should have in the first place.

I said I’d be ok with losing this one, but never for one minute did I think we’d make it so easy for them.
In fact, I’m struggling to think of when we last demonstrated such a lack of intent in a Derby.

That was poor. Piss poor.


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  1. DSVilla
    DSVilla October 16, 2017 at 7:45 pm .

    Come on. It’s embarrassing. Wolves showed us just exactly what is wrong with Bruce.

    If anybody on here can’t see it then they really shouldn’t be following football.

  2. Owen
    Owen October 16, 2017 at 10:31 pm .

    1 defeat in 9, 1 point off playoffs after 12 games. It’s not that bad guys. Win on Saturday and we’ll be in the playoffs. And before people start- Villa under Bruce have been decent results wise at home. Slowly but surely we are sneaking up the table.

    However, lose next two and the “mass hysteria” will start again. And rightly so. But I think we’ll have enough to get 4 points from next two and then we can build momentum for another good run. Man U under fergie used to lose to their rivals a lot (Villa took 4 points off them 92-93 but we came second) beat all the shit teams and we can still go up!

    Where there is hope there is life.Otherwise why bother watching at all?

  3. Andrew
    Andrew October 17, 2017 at 4:38 pm .

    Because you can back a team without backing a manager. It’s not about winning every game. We’re not going to win every game. It’s about playing football, not defending and allowing pressure and having the team look completely clueless.

    How is it the team under Bruce still hasn’t learned to pass it around? Or cross the ball correctly? When Hutton is considered the best player on your team against Wolves, there’s a giant problem. He’s garbage and was out of position and still outshone everyone. Why? Because he “tried”. We’re not a team where our players should be praised for trying. We’re a team that should be outplaying teams that are praised for trying.

    We watch because we support the team. And we do love it when we win. However when we win, and the team plays like shit, we know it’s not going to last. Because you can’t play 46 games like shit and go up. Look at Newcastle. They were awesome last season, had a slow start, but they’re playing football and are now mid-table. 8 games in, Leicester just sacked Shakespeare. Why? Because they’re sitting 18th, and while look okay at best, don’t look like picking up points all that often. Palace sacked De Boer, Hodgson lead them to their first win, against Chelsea of all teams. And they did it pretty well too.

    People keep coming up with this 1 loss in 9. Like the two losses to Reading and Cardiff don’t mean anything. The problem isn’t we’ve won 5 games, drawn 4 and lost 3, usually that would be a convincing-ish record that we could do better in the future. It’s the performances against Wolves, Reading, Cardiff, Bolton, etc. They’ve been god awful and Bruce has had a year, two windows and this is his team, 100% and he still can’t get it right. For the best Championship manager ever, he should’ve gotten it right already, but the performances aren’t there and you need to put in the performances to actually stabilize, not just get a couple results because as we know, like last season under Bruce, it takes a couple games to go on an awful run.

    1. Owen
      Owen October 17, 2017 at 6:39 pm .

      I think you are right to criticise Bruce for poor performances and he’s not perfect by any means but we won’t play a better team than wolves this season and the 442 since Kodjia has come back in had seen us win 4 and lose 1, Reading and Cardiff were along time ago. Wolves, I think that was the first time Snodgrass and Kodjia had experienced defeat this season. Fulham and Blues next two, if we fail to get 4 points from those two then Bruce will kop more flack and that’s fair enough. But why are we moaning about Bruce’s style like its a big shock. He’s always been defensive and pragmatic. Results are all that matter. We are not nor ever have been Real Madrid. And we’ve been shit since 2011 so it’s difficult to turn round a 6 year malaise. Just read some of the excerpts from Shay Given’s autobiography today. The club has been rotten to the core and there is still people like Gabby to get rid of. He’s not doing brilliant is old Potato head but he’s doing ok. Last year was the first season since MON that we won at least as many games as we lost. 7 years of losing doesn’t just evaporate over night.

        1. jvillan
          jvillan October 17, 2017 at 7:03 pm .

          few fairy tales by given ,mcleish had probably worst transfer window in villas history,almost 20million spent on given hutton and zogbia and not 1 penny back , along with two 5 year contracts handed out to given[ 37] zog[80] hutton[128games played]add jenas season loan

          1. Owen
            Owen October 17, 2017 at 7:52 pm .

            Club was a shambles though which is my point

  4. jvillan
    jvillan October 17, 2017 at 5:37 pm .

    leicster looking for anew manager,wonder do they need a spud for their crips

  5. owen
    owen October 18, 2017 at 9:18 am .

    One thing i will say in Bruce’s defence, we won two games away recently 3-0 and 4-0 and he still got stick on here – we did blow those teams away particularly Burton – which is what we are supposed to do – which we did. Yet people said we shouldn’t celebrate that. On here, some people would rather villa lose to win an argument and even if villa got 100 points this year would still moan, which is depressing.

    1. DSVilla
      DSVilla October 18, 2017 at 11:37 am .

      Nothing would please me more than to be proved wrong. My problem is with Bruce. It was last season, and it is now. He should have been fired in the summer but we are stuck now as I accept it’s nigh on impossible to replace him at this point and expect a real turnaround. Who of real quality is available?
      I take no pleasure in our defeats, but our performances are predictably bad. Let’s see Fulham and Blues results. Maybe they will be better than I’m anticipating.

    2. Andrew
      Andrew October 19, 2017 at 4:11 am .

      It’s not quite hard to understand we’re all happy when we win and with the points we’ve gotten, we’re in a decent position. However you seem quite hard of understanding THE FACT that the performances are crap. A couple good performances against the worst teams in the league isn’t good enough, which is why I said celebrating beating Burton with ease isn’t to be celebrated when we get destroyed by the decent top 10 sides in the league.

      Lets see the performances put in, in the next 3 games. Not just points, performances. Which matter just as much.

      1. owen
        owen October 19, 2017 at 9:26 am .

        It’s not fact – that is your opinion – even if you write it in capitals. Good performances have happened, in my opinion against Hull first half, Forest first half, Norwich, Barnsley, Burton, Bristol City second half. That is my opinion, and I would never presume to push it on people as absolute fact. The only facts are the results which are what get you up the table. A 1-0 win over Bolton gets 3 points with a poor performance as opposed to playing well and losing. So a win is a celebration to be celebrated….

        1. Andrew
          Andrew October 19, 2017 at 9:44 pm .

          So 3 halves, and 3 games overall out of 12. But I guess that’s okay.

          My whole point this whole time is you can’t go an entire season of playing poorly and win games. Mourinho doesn’t even do that. It’s fine if we were going to play defensively against Cardiff, Wolves and a couple others, while dominating the smaller sides like Mourinho does, but we don’t do that. You can’t win ugly from the first game to the 46th game, it doesn’t work.

          I’m aware Bruce is also negative and has always been, I said that when we signed him. But I don’t remember his teams ever playing so poorly before. His Hull side was not this bad. But then the game changes quickly, and foreign managers are even entering the Championship and making dinosaurs look like what they are.

  6. Owen
    Owen October 18, 2017 at 9:02 pm .

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