Vlaar out?, Ki in? Lambert out?: And shake it all about.

Well, same as usual lately, as in not much to report, but I thought I’d throw this stuff up there for discussion.

Concrete Ron is resting on his holiday and playing trampolines with his kids. Exactly as it should be on your time off. He goes on to say he isn’t thinking about footy, but will chat with his agent later down the line.

So, he’ll stay if nothing comes up, but will be off like a shot if he gets offered a better deal.

My money says he’ll be staying;


Swansea are looking to re-sign KI after interest from us and Arsenal;


This one is total rubbish. There is no way Wenger will be interested in him, so it’s down to if we can offer him a better deal than Swansea will. Sadly (and no disrepect to Swansea), that’s a big ask.
He seems to be our top target and I personally think we might get him, if the deal can be done.
I’d actually like this one to be sorted, for what it’s worth, as he seems a better bet than what we’ve signed up to now and he looks might he might improve us, with the club/manager showing a bit of ambition.

But we also have to ask how often we get our supposed top target. It isn’t often, is it?

And then there’s Lambert’s odds for the sack, which I don’t need to post links to, as many of us will no doubt have him marked as well up the list.

He won’t be the first (I’d back Fat Sam for that), as Lerner wants to hold him at all costs, given that he’s about the only person I can think of that would work under the current circumstances, unless we’re talking minor league managers.
I think I might do better looking for odds about him getting sacked by christmas.

Interesting times.
Not that it means I’m happy.


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    GIDDYVILLAN July 30, 2014 at 8:32 am . Reply

    I think if UTD come in for vlaar he’s gone,yes players are money mad nowadays.so if he likes what he sees on paper adios,plus what we get for him will save LERNER spending a pennies in the transfer window.that will suit the tight arse down to the ground.

  2. JD
    JD July 30, 2014 at 11:00 am . Reply

    Victor Moses & Ki doing the rounds again be good to get both in.I reckon Vlaar will stay as he’s nearly 30 only place that will give him another long deal is the Villa UTV Ola from sunny Alcudia San Miguel flowing all day long hic hic lol

  3. nath
    nath July 30, 2014 at 12:22 pm . Reply

    if aston villa can’t impress ki or his agents ~ then the blame is firmly at lerner feet. never in our history, av we been over taken by so many small teams, like in his reign.

    i don’t care wot most u guys say, but if we can add a player of ki quality 2 this current squad. i would be totally confident of a comfortable season. that would be welcomed in my life after the last 3 or more seasons

    vlaar i feel will stay and not mind this, as if he doesn’t sign a extension, he will get a massive move nxt summer. only way he moves if man utd slap a offer to lerner he cant refuse. then i fear most would turn against lerner, that aven’t already .selling ur captain and aving no decent replacement in place would be suicide

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 30, 2014 at 12:30 pm . Reply

      i dont think vlaar is a bad thing he spends an average of 3 months injured at crucial times and drops a bollock every game. he wont make that much dfifference we will still finish 4th or 5th from bottom instead of maybe 6th or 7th from bottom. either way it dosnt matter

      1. nath
        nath July 30, 2014 at 12:34 pm . Reply

        that said by a impartial person thats slagged him of from day 1 to the current day. when he plays in the villa team he MAKES a differnce and if u can’t agree with that, u couldn’t agree the color or shite

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath July 30, 2014 at 6:50 pm . Reply

          Colour of shite is blue and white everyone knows that

          1. nath
            nath July 30, 2014 at 7:01 pm . Reply

            correct 🙂 ur rite for once lmao

        LANGFORDVILLA July 30, 2014 at 1:06 pm . Reply

        Ohaah…..of course I accept your verdict on Vlaar. Why would I take the word of a internationally renowned Dutch coach and Man Utd manager over yours.
        Its NO contest..Vlaar is shit.

      3. Tekkers48
        Tekkers48 July 30, 2014 at 6:21 pm . Reply

        He played 27 games in his first season and 32 games last season. 3 months average Injured ?????

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath July 30, 2014 at 6:52 pm . Reply

          Not all were in the prem thou
          Still missing 20% of games

          1. Tekkers48
            Tekkers48 July 30, 2014 at 10:47 pm . Reply

            That was league appearances OohAh. I feel that he is a good defender and leader on the pitch. Just we need a few better players around him to lead !!!!

  4. Jay Dee
    Jay Dee July 30, 2014 at 3:10 pm . Reply

    Vlaar is not shit we won more with Vlaar than without him

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 30, 2014 at 4:36 pm . Reply

      Well fwiw I can’t we him going anywhere no one will offer him a long term deal with his age and injury record against him. He will only be a bit part player at utd anyway.

      1. nath
        nath July 30, 2014 at 6:14 pm . Reply

        his injury record?????? only game he missed during the WC was the final, that maybe cos holland didn’t play that game he managed the 3rd playoff game so he played the maximum amount of games possible,””””” not bad for his age and injury record “””””

      LANGFORDVILLA July 30, 2014 at 4:58 pm . Reply

      JD…I think the sun (and beer) as got to you mate…..read what I said properly….i was being sarcastic 🙂

      1. nath
        nath July 30, 2014 at 5:59 pm . Reply

        lmao i suggest you put ur sarcasm in ” speech marks ”

        p,s i knew u were pulling oohahahahaha chain

          LANGFORDVILLA July 30, 2014 at 6:38 pm . Reply

          Nath…sorry, your right in what you say. Will enter “my sarcasm” in the correct form in future!

          1. nath
            nath July 30, 2014 at 6:40 pm . Reply

            🙂 lmao

      2. Jay Dee
        Jay Dee July 31, 2014 at 6:30 pm . Reply

        Sorry pal P&P and the beers great lol it’s been proper hot today

    LANGFORDVILLA July 30, 2014 at 8:13 pm . Reply

    Ohaah is having a “wankfest” as we are 1 nil down! I knew the lads would make him happy at some stage 🙂

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 30, 2014 at 8:50 pm . Reply

      Didn’t even no we were playing

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 30, 2014 at 8:52 pm . Reply

      Just seen 2.0 down. Like I say means nothing just a friendly

    3. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 30, 2014 at 9:03 pm . Reply

      Blimey Everton have paid nearly £28m for lukaku where did they get that from ffs

      1. Andrew
        Andrew July 31, 2014 at 6:34 pm . Reply

        They spent half the money they got for Fellaini on his replacement, European money, TV money, money from their other sold players and they probably have money elsewhere.

    4. Lamberk
      Lamberk July 30, 2014 at 9:12 pm . Reply

      You mean like you will have a “wankfest” if we win.

  6. jvillan
    jvillan July 31, 2014 at 12:02 am . Reply

    think result tonight puts to bed young and hungry theory,we are a complete shambles thank you RANDY LERNER PLUS DEADLY FOR SELLING US TO THAT TURD. Celtic result shows why keane wouldnt manage them, what is villas spend for last 8/9 seasons remember deadly left money for mon first window, vlar dont care if stays or goes we keep him he gets new contract on big money how many good games has he played for us because in last 2 years villa how many good games have villa played,lambert has one thing nobody else has,lerner couldnt get anyone else to manage under these conditions,why does he not use them he has only one year left on contract,going by reports it is why faulkner left because he told lerner that he had to spend money or face going down,

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 31, 2014 at 12:40 am . Reply

      Blimey ur in the minority with me esp about Vlar. Bet u don’t get slagged of like I do though

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath July 31, 2014 at 9:04 am . Reply

        I’ve heard it all now lamberk says we lost thru jet lag even though most if the team didn’t travel. Get this joker out now ffs

          LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 12:08 pm . Reply

          Jetlag?…..FFS…..what a feeble excuse! Didnt even know that we flew to Chesterfield 🙂

        2. Lamberk
          Lamberk July 31, 2014 at 12:11 pm . Reply

          Lets face it, we’ve been suffering with jet lag since Lambert became manager!!

          1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath July 31, 2014 at 12:28 pm . Reply

            Lol. Lamberk saying he favours new vanishing foam. Hopefully the foam will make him vanish along with Lerner and keane

      2. saddened
        saddened July 31, 2014 at 9:13 am . Reply

        Forget about the result last night I think the biggest news is Everton signing Lukaku for £28m. 5 years ago we were a similar or even bigger club than Everton, however can you imagine us signing anyone for this type of money now, singlehandedly Lerner has turned this once fine club into championship fodder. We had to save money and trim costs because Lerner stupidly handed his chequebook to a financially irresponsible O’neill, now we all have to suffer because he has ruined our club. The club is in such a shit state nobody wants to buy us to get us out of this mess………Thanks Randy

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath July 31, 2014 at 11:40 am . Reply

          agree proves the money is there for us but lerner wont spend it

          LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 12:04 pm . Reply

          Everton pay 28 mil for Lukaku……reeks of the kind of mistakes MON made at VP. He is not even worth half of that! He is only 3rd choice for Belgium FFS. Absolutely rubbish in the WC. Also lacks ambition, if he joins Everton rather than having faith in his own ability and showing that he is good enough for a starting place at Chelsea, then that sums him up! The fact that Chelsea are keeping Torres in preference to Lukaku says it all really! This transfer is likely to send Everton into the same financial state that we are currently in!

          1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath July 31, 2014 at 12:29 pm . Reply

            Disagree with that. Chelsea always buy the finished article. He has great potential and Martinez is a million times better than mon IMO

          2. LANGFORDVILLA
            LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 12:48 pm . Reply

            Exactly….28 mil ‘for potential’…..Chelsea must be pissing themselves laughing. The lad didnt have the bollox to fight for his place at Stamford Bridge which shows very poor character. Moreover, if Everton have guaranteed him a starting place, what does that say about them….player bigger than club?, that never works in the longterm!

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath July 31, 2014 at 10:52 pm . Reply

              Disagree he plays a couple of good seasons for Everton then moves to a sky four as finished article at 23-24. He’s still very young. I’d swap him for Benteke. Belgium rate him slightly higher too.

          3. LANGFORDVILLA
            LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 1:03 pm . Reply

            Further to that Lambert payed 7 mil ‘for potential’…ie Benteke. I dont recall you praising Lambert at the time. Conversely, you called him ‘the new Heskey’. That proves you talk complete and utter bollox!

          4. Andrew
            Andrew July 31, 2014 at 11:10 pm . Reply

            Belgium rates him higher? Benteke was typically first choice striker in their qualifiers… Belgium definitely rate Benteke higher.

          5. B6
            B6 August 1, 2014 at 7:51 pm . Reply

            Which, as per usual, oohah goes quiet when he’s proved wrong. Sums up what a clueless cock he is.

    2. mike
      mike July 31, 2014 at 2:59 am . Reply

      It was friendly !

  7. ifiruledtheworld
    ifiruledtheworld July 31, 2014 at 12:51 pm . Reply

    IncogAVFC has tweeted that even though he has no names, last night and again this morning he was informed that Lerner was in advanced talks with his preferred buyer, and expects to have a deal done by the start of September.

    1. Riddog
      Riddog July 31, 2014 at 1:44 pm . Reply

      I follow IncogAVFC on Twitter and this is the same guy who claimed we had signed Ki and Bendtner two weeks ago….

      1. ifiruledtheworld
        ifiruledtheworld July 31, 2014 at 3:38 pm . Reply

        I saw that too, although I thought his tweet was Villa agree deal with Swansea for Ki, and he later tweeted that even though a deal was agreed between the clubs the player himself was unsure if he wanted the move? Anyway just posting what I’m seeing mate, and to be fair he was right about Senderos, Cole and Keane before any of the other social media got a hold of those stories. So here’s hoping.

      2. Andrew
        Andrew July 31, 2014 at 5:07 pm . Reply

        Incog also recently tweeted that Bendtner did agree a deal with Villa, but now his agents in his ear about money and the deal’s been stalled as he’s asking for more.

        1. ifiruledtheworld
          ifiruledtheworld July 31, 2014 at 5:14 pm . Reply

          Yep, here’s hoping he’s right about the new owner and all becomes clearer in the coming days.

          1. Andrew
            Andrew July 31, 2014 at 6:03 pm . Reply

            By September wouldn’t surprise me. Does make you wonder who his prefer buyer is. Seemingly makes me if he does truly only want the best for Villa and is possibly giving us the best possible owner that he thinks can take Villa up..

  8. Lionheart
    Lionheart July 31, 2014 at 1:53 pm . Reply

    Lukaku is decent business.. he isn’t potential.. he has scored 15 plus goal in the Prem for the last two seasons and at 21 will only get better..

    You pay a premium for a forward.. whether it was 28 or 20M.. the fact is Everton have brought themselves a proven goal scorer.. Good bit of business by them.. the alternative was taking a risk on a foreigner for half the money and not knowing what he could do..

      LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 5:42 pm . Reply

      Everton will end up in the same boat as us. Lukaku was dire in the WC. He wouldnt even have got a sniff if Tekkers was fit. Lukaku is another downing (only twice the wedge)….He will be off like a shot if he is found to be anywhere near as good as he ‘thinks’ he is. Poor, poor character as well, not even got the backbone to challenge the likes of Torres FFS for a starting place. Demanded a guaranteed start erm…no fucking chance. Mourinho must be pissing himself laughing getting that much for ‘unproven potential’….give me Benteke at 7 mil all day long. If he is guaranteed a starting spot at Everton (and he must have been)…what does that tell you about Everton? And Martinez?…..no one is bigger than the club they play for….Everton have been mugged off and it WILL end in tears….28 mil LMAO.

      1. Andrew
        Andrew July 31, 2014 at 6:33 pm . Reply

        Gonna have to disagree for 3 reasons.

        1. He’s 21, he’s averaging mid teens per season on loan and he’s only getting better.
        2. And a huge reason why I hate the system, not that Everton needs it, but he’s sadly considered home grown because he’s been in England for 3 years.
        3. International performances aren’t going to matter to Everton. No his overall ability isn’t near as good as Benteke’s, but at 21 he’s got huge potential. I’d also be pissed off if I couldn’t get ahead of poor players like Torres, Eto’o and Drogba are brought in despite me being there, willing and able to play, and being better than both. I’d be just as pissed off as him and throwing a hissy fit.

        They paid a hell of a lot, but if they ever did decide to sell, 3-4 seasons down the line they’ll be doubling their money.

          LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 6:50 pm . Reply

          Andrew, thats the point, he should be saying to himself that I am as good as the other strikers…but no, he has bottled it bigtime! Thats a sign of very poor character IMO….Moreover, he could have been playing in the CL rather than the Europa. At least thats a marker to where Villa should be in terms of a fee if Benteke is sold! Lukaku 28 mil….add at least anither 6 for Benteke IMO. Further to that Benteke will outscore Lukaku every time (injuries permitted)… Despite Everton having a far superior supply line compared to us!

          LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 6:53 pm . Reply

          BTW Andrew, Eto’o is no longer st the Bridge 🙂 So its probably any 2 from 3 which makes his character look even worse. LMAO 28 mil….start the bidding for Tekkers at around 35 mil then!

          1. Andrew
            Andrew July 31, 2014 at 7:09 pm . Reply

            Yes but Chelsea play 1 striker. 18m for him in 2011. 18, Torres, Drogba, Kalou, Sturridge and Anelka ahead of him. Okay, fine.
            2012 – 2013 season – Drogba goes, Kalou goes, Ba comes in, so he goes on loan.
            2013-2014 season – Eto’o comes in, Schurrle comes in, so what should he do? When your manager is bringing in what he knows, very experienced players? So he asks to go on loan.
            2014-2015 season so far – Eto’o leaves, Ba leaves, Costa comes in, Drogba comes in. He’s still behind Costa, Drogba, Torres and Schurrle. For 1 position, 1 position. When you see all of these old players leaving, and you’re like “awesome”, maybe a manager who doesn’t give youth a chance, might give it… Then bam, Costa comes, okay… Drogba comes in… What? Torres is staying… So 4 strikers ahead of you now, what is he supposed to do? When never given a chance, be happy? No, of course not. He has every right to leave as he wasn’t gonna play.

          2. LANGFORDVILLA
            LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 11:13 pm . Reply

            He should be showing ambition and bottle, they are essential attributes that every player should show!

          3. Andrew
            Andrew August 1, 2014 at 12:25 am . Reply

            So moving to another big club so that he’ll be an automatic starter instead of being pushed down by Mourinho is bad? Interesting. He’s gotta think of himself in his career, not Chelsea.

  9. Jay Dee
    Jay Dee July 31, 2014 at 2:51 pm . Reply

    Hi there Jaydee reporting from sunny Alcudia it’s hot hot hot and beer o clock all day long….Aston Villa eyeing Alekdandr Kokorin CF Moskow Dynamo really good player this one would love to get him…..Now back to sunshine and beer SCORCHIO

      LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 5:56 pm . Reply

      SSN …claiming Lowton is close to a year long loan to Middlesbro

      1. Andrew
        Andrew July 31, 2014 at 6:00 pm . Reply

        Funny enough my mate told me there could be a surprise loan move from a possible starter from our last friendly. I figured it was gonna be like, Herd. Lowton is a shock, at least to me.

          LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 6:04 pm . Reply

          Shock for me too. It looks like Hutton for RB with Bacuna as replacement. Could be that we need Lowton to move to allow for a new arrival…Ki?

          1. Andrew
            Andrew July 31, 2014 at 6:23 pm . Reply

            Could be, I mean I know we need rid of a few players as we have 28 senior players currently.

          2. Andrew
            Andrew July 31, 2014 at 6:46 pm . Reply

            Was really hoping he’d stay as I don’t want Bacuna still at RB, it’s an utter waste of a good player to play him out of position still.

  10. jvillan
    jvillan July 31, 2014 at 6:51 pm . Reply

    why would any buyer be happy to wait to september, if we dont get at least 1 df 2cm 1w before deadline we could be out of sight by next window. our team for first match could be guzan hutton stevens vlar clarke delph westwood zog gabby bent wieman that would be 2 mon 1 houiller 3mcleish 3academy and only TWO LAMBERTS players out of how many has he signed about20 even lowton who showed promise going

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 31, 2014 at 10:49 pm . Reply

      All bollocks it just to sell STs

  11. OriginalLondonLion
    OriginalLondonLion July 31, 2014 at 7:52 pm . Reply

    Lerner’s story about a September sale is timed so it appears something is happening – but he will not have to prove it until after laggards have bought their STs. Take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

    Vlaar – is extremely unlikely to go to United. He does not like van Gaal – has no choice but to put up with him as Dutch manager, but would not willingly go to join his club.

    Gabby. I have a mate in Portsmouth with more money than sense who went to see Villa in USA. He said there were a lot of sharp performances and Grealish stood out, but that just contrasted with Gabby who contributed FA to both games. I do not know if Keane can crack the whip, but if I were manager I would tell him he is playing left back and if that does not revive his performances he is out.

    Chesterfield result predictable with team of Yoof players and Guzan back in goal.

  12. Andrew
    Andrew July 31, 2014 at 8:44 pm . Reply

    So we’ve reportedly made a 4m Euro bid for Andre Hoffman. Wonder if the Ki deal’s broken down too.

  13. Benno
    Benno July 31, 2014 at 8:49 pm . Reply

    Interesting link to Hoffman. At least we seem to have identified that we need a proper DM now. I was hoping that we would also hear more about Daniel Wass…but that seems to have disappeared.

  14. sasa c
    sasa c July 31, 2014 at 9:03 pm . Reply

    Original, many don’t want to admit it, but Gabby is just a busted flush, he has never kicked on and is neither a winger or a striker, he’s at the club after all this time because nobody else has ever bid for him, MON could not improve him via motivation and GH had him sussed technically..both cannot be wrong. As for Vlaar, he may well have had a good WC, but players can often shine in tournaments and be bang average,remember Poborsky?..so I’m with Ooohah on that one, Okore will more than do a good job.
    I’ll never forgive Lerner for appointing McShite, but I do believe that he will sell to the right person for the right reasons, and I hope above hope that Joe Cole can have a similar impact to that of Merson on the pitch. AVFC.

    1. KentNielsen77
      KentNielsen77 July 31, 2014 at 9:30 pm . Reply

      Gary Breen had a good World Cup once.

      1. sasa c
        sasa c July 31, 2014 at 9:43 pm . Reply

        genius…and as Spain got thumped by the Dutch first game, does that make Iniesta shite? and if so can we have him rather than Ki?

      LANGFORDVILLA July 31, 2014 at 11:20 pm . Reply

      ‘MON could not improve him’?….is that the same MON that used his great judgement by buying:
      Luke Young
      Reo Coker
      Yes MON was a great judge of players!

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath August 1, 2014 at 12:11 am . Reply

        Well said the same MON that sold Cahill as he thought Zat Shite was better. MON overrated, overhyped as Sunderland found out.

  15. badger123
    badger123 August 1, 2014 at 12:05 am . Reply

    Some good comments on here.

    1) Gabby ain’t a wide player! He should be played down the middle, where he can run on to a hooof coming over his head. That’s where he’s best and his pace still scares the shit out of defenders. That plus he’s one of the most instinctive players in the box, I’ve ever seen.
    Whip the ball in low and hard and he’ll usually get some part of his body on it.
    Agreed though, technically he’s quite simply crap.
    But he’s an option. He can score goals. Sometimes.
    £56k a week? About right, but not in our current setup, where he’s worth about half that, same as any other top championship player, imo.

    2) September takeover? Sounds about right and doesn’t bode well, imo.
    That probably means that the new buyer doesn’t want to spend in this window.
    Any mega rich prospective owner would be itching to buy players to improve his investment and would rush a deal through. As would Lerner.
    It could be a case where the new buyer fronts money or makes it a condition that Lerner buys certain players before a deal goes through, but I’m not holding my breath and reckon that £10 mill all in spend still stands. I believe we’ve a net spend up to now of £300k
    Just pathetic, although I realise the window isn’t closed yet.

    3) I’m not going to comment on MON, save to say what is going on NOW isn’t his fault!

    JD, nice place, Alcudia. I want to go there again sometime.
    Had a couple of great holidays with the kids there 🙂
    I won’t tell you where I’m going in about 3-4 weeks just yet 🙂

    1. steve
      steve August 1, 2014 at 9:07 am . Reply

      1) agree with you about Gabby but he only wants to play 3 or 4 times a season the rest of the time he doesn’t want to know. I wouldn’t pick him at all until his effort improves.
      Weimann down the middle alongside a striker is better as he is a preadtor type player. He is not as effective out wide.
      2) September takeover – possible but surely a prospective new owner wouldn’t want to run the gauntlet with a relegation battle.
      One reason i think something is on the cards is Lambert has the perfect opportunity now to walk (I wish he would) saying the club at the moment is unmanageable as opposed is own management flaws. Why is he hanging around.
      3) Martin O’Neil is to blame for the starting the downward spiral.

      1. saddened
        saddened August 1, 2014 at 9:20 am . Reply

        Lerner is to blame for the downward spiral, he let O’Neil spend what he liked while refusing to have a football brain on the board…. football suicide !!!
        I think the September (POSSIBLE) take over is bollocks, purely to sell season tickets, who in their right mind would buy a football club with their hands tied when the window is closed….. more PR crap !!!
        only my view though so i could be wrong !!

  16. jvillan
    jvillan August 1, 2014 at 3:32 pm . Reply

    is lambert going to take ultimate revenge,by relegating villa,where has new contract gone after all he has been lerner and to certain extent faulkners poodle,even faulkner got out when he realised the young and hungry was not going to work,the 3 signings plus u turn over hutton bent zog given is a crime to us long suffering villa fans lowton steer out on loan,how many season tickets have been sold ,when the first sky match is shown at a half empty ground what will media say will it be lerner a good owner or one of worst proper yank just in it for money,sure he let mon go mad at start but we needed to get a squad everton have just spent about 40 million on fees and wages to have what theyhad last season,mon won his case against lerner who then proceeded to make mistake after mistake which we have paid for in spades ireland at 8 m plus16m wages houiller millions bent at 18/24 million plus 16m wages makoun 6m dont know his wages mcleish paying off blues given 3.5m plus15m wages hutton 4.5 8m wages zog 10.5 plus wages jenas who played about 20 mins then paid mcleish off sure mon wasted money but nothing on that scale and we where winning matches then,who enjoys watching villa since last couple games of houiller reign,LERNER is our problem and if we go down as i fear i hope he loses everything he invested in villa because he is killing us pice at a time

  17. ifiruledtheworld
    ifiruledtheworld August 1, 2014 at 5:00 pm . Reply

    IncogAVFC has tweeted that we’re exploring the possibility of signing a championship player.

    1. Lamberk
      Lamberk August 1, 2014 at 5:13 pm . Reply

      Championship? Thats abit ambitious isn’t it, surely he must mean League 2? And don’t call me shirley!!!

      1. ifiruledtheworld
        ifiruledtheworld August 1, 2014 at 5:38 pm . Reply

        Just because it’s the championship doesn’t mean there’s not a good player to be found, could be Lascelles..

        1. Andrew
          Andrew August 1, 2014 at 5:40 pm . Reply

          Read we were linked to Wolverhampton CB, forgot his name. Could be him too, though they said they wouldn’t welcome any inquiries or bids.

  18. nath
    nath August 1, 2014 at 5:37 pm . Reply

    good to see the positivity around this site 🙂 jed steer leaving on loan ….does this mean given is staying???? has lowton left on loan??? i can’t find info on this. i would prefer bacuna be used in midfield rather than a wing back. finally i av been harsh on hutton. but in his return sofar hes impressed me, so hats off to him and i am sure he will be the right back wing back

  19. badger123
    badger123 August 1, 2014 at 6:09 pm . Reply

    Nath, seriously, how can you judge Mutton on friendlies?
    He’s gash mate, imo and just not good enough for where the Villa should be, same as most of the squad.

    That said, I’ve always said that freindlies mean nothing and could go back to my old story of how poor we looked in the pre season when we won the league. I won’t, but it explains why I believe pre-season means nothing whatsoever, either way.
    Same as we lost to Chesterfield, beating MLS crap means nothing whatsoever to me and the only thing you can judge is fitness, imo.

    The way I look at it, we shouldn’t be hoping the likes of proven players like Given, Bent and N’Zog are our saviours.
    We should have moved on and hopefully improved, with new younger blood, looking better than the old guard.
    And that quite simply hasn’t happened, apart from maybe Benteke being better than Bent (as an overall striker).
    The simple truth is we’ve got decidedly worse over time.
    You have to blame the custodian for that.

    1. nath
      nath August 1, 2014 at 6:37 pm . Reply

      i haven’t ever got excited about any pre season games / pre season games aren’t a indication for upcoming season. wot does thou is the fitness and togetherness which is all important.

      now finally i said he impressed me being hes strong makes strong runs always offering himself in overlapping runs, then when u take in accounts the weather and him not playing only for scotland for over 2 years other than his loan.

      he could easily say iam not playing for this manager or team or these fans but his attitude looks spot on for these reasons i was impressed

  20. Jay Dee
    Jay Dee August 1, 2014 at 8:04 pm . Reply

    Lowton out for the season didn’t he fall out with Lambert about something not so long back?

    1. nath
      nath August 1, 2014 at 8:17 pm . Reply

      can u explain jay i av been out all day and i can’t see anything on him were has he gone is it a loan ???

      lowton has been disappointing since his first 12 months which he looked very promising. was he given chances last season, i think so he just doesn’t seem 2 reach the same standards he set himself in that first season

        GIDDYVILLAN August 1, 2014 at 8:46 pm . Reply

        Boro I think??

        1. nath
          nath August 1, 2014 at 8:55 pm . Reply

          🙂 nice1 giddy

          1. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN August 1, 2014 at 9:12 pm . Reply

            Nath daily mail mate it says there interested in taking him on loan,I’ve red nowhere it’s a done deal.

          2. nath
            nath August 1, 2014 at 9:25 pm . Reply

            thanxs giddy

            no wonder i could find anything on this, so many stories are made up, sieving ur way through um can be a mission.

    2. DSVilla
      DSVilla August 1, 2014 at 9:07 pm . Reply

      Jay Dee I think the Lowton fallout was supposed to do with him moving away from Birmingham.

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