Villa; The real deal.

Apologies for not writing about the game. It’s just been hectic after my hols.

Many of us were wary about the Luton game and rightly so because it was just the sort of game we could have lost.
The thinking was justified in my opinion, because how many times over the decades have we faced teams that we’d be expected to demolish, only to slip up? Stevenage and Milwall immediately spring to my mind and if I thought about it more, I could probably rattle off loads. Indeed, we lost at home recently against Everton, who are rubbish, but I accept there may be specific reasons for that.
I prefer not to think about those results.
But it’s just been the Villa way for so long, hasn’t it? Just when we think we’re on the verge of getting somewhere, so some stupid result comes along and kicks you in the gut.
And it’s this constant disappointment that has now led me to minimise expectations and just not be in a position where I’m banking on results. I think I’m still half expecting something to go wrong now.

But I read a Birmingham Mail article this morning, where the headline said something about us being the real deal and it got me thinking.

It’s true isn’t it?
While the way we play means we’re always prone to being hit on the counter (and even lowly Luton created a couple of such chances) meaning we might lose the odd games, we look so frightening in attack and have proven that we can score in spades, with goals coming from anywhere.
From memory, we are the third highest points winners in this calendar year.
I heard in the commentary yesterday that we are on a record home win run since Tony Barton’s days, which is pretty much 40 years.
And we’re joint top scorers this season.

Our next six games are very interesting.
We have, on paper three easier games in Forest away, Fulham at home and then Bournemouth.
Of course, none of these should be deemed as easy, but if we can do similar to what we did against Luton, you’d expect good things.
But then, those games are interspersed by Spurs away, Man City at home and Arsenal at home.
None of those should be deemed as easy, but by the same token, none of those sides look anywhere near invincible at the moment, so you never know.
Not that I’m getting anywhere near complacent.

But it seems to me we should have a genuine idea of where we really are after those game.
We have pretty good records against a couple of those teams, but we’ve had predictably bad results against the usual suspects too.
But let’s say we win those you’d expect and maybe nick a few points off the others. Then we’re suddenly up to the 14th of December, just a couple of weeks away from the winter window with hopefully some very welcome reinforcements to come in. We should hopefully have Moreno and Ramsey back too.
The point is we could be in a very good position with a bit of a fair wind.

I’ve omitted the Conference games, which could prove to be a massive drain on the lads’ energy levels, because I’m concentrating on the Premier league.

But is the giant actually awake?

Could this be the season where we really achieve what we believe our club is long overdue?
Whisper it quietly, but I think with this manager, it just may be.



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  1. Ardent Villain
    Ardent Villain October 30, 2023 at 7:21 pm . Reply

    To be honest I get more jittery about the likes of Forrest than I do about Spuds or Arsenal – neither of whom I think are better than us overall man-for-man.

    Partly this is just habit – like you say, we’re used to Villa struggling against teams that on paper we should beat easily – I lose track of how many afternoons I’ve spent at VP watching us trying to beat teams like Fulham (just one example because it has stuck in my mind after seeing them waste more time than any other team I can remember, on every single occasion I saw them at VP), often managing to lose by a single wretched goal.

    As for ManCs – well, they might just be past their best at the moment, but I certainly wouldn’t expect even a point.

    If we can actually still be only 4-5 points off the leaders by Christmas, I’ll know that we are, at long last, the Real Deal.

  2. OLL again
    OLL again October 30, 2023 at 9:10 pm . Reply

    Konsa is a prime example of training to improve – and it must be really difficult once habits are ingrained. Pre-Emery you could see he did not trust himself to hit a long ball forward accurately, so he either hit a pass out wide to Cash or squared it infield to Mings. Oppos quickly sussed him, closed down those two options and waited for him to give the ball away. Now he is quite happy hitting the ball long or sidestepping a press.
    And John McGinn: pre-Emery instead of the feint and side step when he scored against Luton he would have shot at goal when the ball reached him and hit the nearest blocker.

  3. BFR
    BFR October 30, 2023 at 9:30 pm . Reply

    66-71 points gets top 4. We are on target for that, without assumptions or taking anything for granted. But in terms of the maths, as of right now, we are on course. Here’s to hoping…

  4. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year October 30, 2023 at 10:51 pm . Reply

    “Messi got the Ballon D’Or but the winner of the Lev Yashin trophy was Emiliano Martínez. His father Alberto handed him the award after the goalkeeper’s heroics during Argentina’s victorious World Cup campaign.”
    There you go, we’ve officially got the best goalie in the world, as if we didn’t know that already.

    1. 1874 was a good year
      1874 was a good year October 31, 2023 at 1:42 pm . Reply

      I believe that the French crowd booed Emi when he got his award and Drogba had to step in and calm the crowd. From what little I know of Emi it’s my bet that he really enjoyed the whole thing.

      1. Ardent Villain
        Ardent Villain October 31, 2023 at 1:46 pm . Reply

        Martinez is a wind-up merchant. He’ll probably have loved it!

        1. Bum Bum
          Bum Bum October 31, 2023 at 4:29 pm . Reply


          1. Hitchens60
            Hitchens60 October 31, 2023 at 7:35 pm . Reply

            French – clearly didn’t like him winding up Mbappe – not that he’s Mr. Innocent.

            I’ll reserve my other views as I don’t want to be banned 🙂 🙂

            1. Bum Bum
              Bum Bum November 1, 2023 at 2:44 pm . Reply

              Views on the French, Mpappe or Emi? Mbappe is one of those select superstars who’ve painted themselves into a corner. When they want a move only 5 clubs on the planet can afford them (discounting the Saudi’s Sunday League), and if those 5 clubs aren’t interested in having their balance disrupted, where does the player go next?

              1. Hitchens60
                Hitchens60 November 1, 2023 at 8:28 pm .

                On the French generally 🙂

              2. Bum Bum
                Bum Bum November 2, 2023 at 8:14 am .

                Hitch, I went on a tour of one of the historic boats down in Plymouth 2 years ago. They absolutely roasted the French – very funny. They were demonstrating a sword of the day pointing out it’s spine – “Something the French don’t have”… Much to the hilarity of the watching crowd!!! 🙂

      2. Sidforever
        Sidforever November 5, 2023 at 10:10 am . Reply

        How about this for a prediction?

        We beat Forest today and go above Arsenal.

        No recognition from press or pundits about Villa. All about Arsenal. Some pundits will argue that Villa should sell Arsenal Luiz and Watkins.

        Actually the disrespect to Villa from the Nadia and pundits is staggering.

        Emery will make them eat humble pie.

  5. OLL again
    OLL again November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am . Reply

    It is a good job Emi’s father got to present the award. Just imagine if it had been Laurent Blanc.

    Blanc arrives onstage to Emi’s right carrying the award and a book. He stops, turns the award all the way round then upside-down looking for the maker’s name. He approaches Emi, stops – walks round behind him and prepares to hand over the award from the left. Notices his shoelace is loose. Puts the award down, puts his foot on it and reties the lace. Picks up the award in one hand, book in the other and just as Emi reaches out Blanc waves both arms up and down. Blanc then hands Emi the award and says, you might like this book “A La Recherche du Temps Perdu.”

    1. 1874 was a good year
      1874 was a good year November 2, 2023 at 6:10 am . Reply

      Wow! This blog is getting very cultured. Every time that Proust is mentioned I always think of Monty Python –

  6. Gerry
    Gerry November 2, 2023 at 10:26 am . Reply

    Bum Bum, I find your naming of the Saudi’s Sunday League highly disrespectful to the many dreamers who caught buses to the extremes of the city boundries on Sundays (both am(missing Mass) and pm. In some cases playing both. Some of those journies were so horrendous that many have still not returned.

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain November 2, 2023 at 2:22 pm . Reply

      I spent countless Sunday mornings (around 15-20 years ago) taking each of my boys to wet, muddy and cold football pitches in places I’d hardly ever been to before, all over the Midlands.

      TBF, some of the football I saw was actually quite good. Unfortunately nobody was getting a penny for it, unlike the ones in Saudi – but I reckon that at least a few games had bigger crowds!

  7. BFR
    BFR November 3, 2023 at 5:56 am . Reply

    Looking at Forest’s form, they’re due a win. At home, they’re always dangerous with a partisan crowd. No easy games in this league and the Villa will need to be at it. Arsenal and Spurs have potential to drop points at the weekend; City and Pool nailed on for 3. Opportunity to cement further that top 5 and tighten at thd top. I’d suggest quick tempo to start with an early goal to quieten the natives would be ideal…


    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum November 3, 2023 at 7:56 am . Reply

      Ron, you’re forgetting one thing…we’re actually very, very dangerous at present. I know what you mean about not getting your hopes up, but i think we’ll do Forest. One goal and the floodgates are open.
      As CP pointed out, we’ve scored half as many goal as all of last season in only a quarter of the games! Wow!!!
      Forest are getting spanked!!!

      1. The Ron Saunders Stand
        The Ron Saunders Stand November 3, 2023 at 5:40 pm . Reply

        A draw.
        I can feel it in me water (-:

        1. Bum Bum
          Bum Bum November 3, 2023 at 9:19 pm . Reply

          Ron, take a handful of pumpkin seeds daily. That’ll sort yr waterworks out!!!
          Let’s reconvene late afternoon on Sunday!!!

  8. Badger123
    Badger123 November 4, 2023 at 12:59 am . Reply

    Spurs-Villa on the 26th.
    My prediction is this is the game of the season.
    I’m really not liking this “spurs have it all sown up” narrative.
    I have a very strong thought in my head, but I’m saying nothing.
    My guess?
    Spurs won’t be winning anything.
    This London thing makes me puke.

  9. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson November 4, 2023 at 9:46 am . Reply

    ye of little faith , Tottenham are ridding with their luck at the minute, I have every confident they will crack . We have the right man to push our team to the top. We will make the big time this season are you forgetting what’s ahead come the next few weeks ? players returning, and windows opening we are so close.

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum November 4, 2023 at 9:53 am . Reply

      I’m with you, Bill! Can’t wait for the Spuds match either. Haven’t we got ManU before then too???

    2. Badger123
      Badger123 November 4, 2023 at 4:21 pm . Reply

      I think you’ve totally mis-read my reply there Bill.

      1. Bum Bum
        Bum Bum November 5, 2023 at 8:03 am . Reply

        Only 6 hours until KO!!!

  10. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson November 4, 2023 at 11:34 am . Reply

    Yes Bum Bum , they are nobody now .

  11. Holte
    Holte November 5, 2023 at 1:39 pm . Reply

    A really tough game for Villa today. We need to make sure that we don’t allow them a positive start. Good to see Moreno back on the bench. If we win then we can get 4th minimum so plenty of reason to get the 3 points.

  12. Badger123
    Badger123 November 5, 2023 at 2:07 pm . Reply

    Jesus, what is it with us and early goals?
    I thought we’d stopped that.

  13. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum November 5, 2023 at 2:08 pm . Reply

    Bloody hell. Long way to go yet…

  14. Badger123
    Badger123 November 5, 2023 at 2:11 pm . Reply

    I see no Duran again.
    Is he finished at the Villa? Could be, by the look of it.
    Like I said previously, I don’t believe he’s injured.

  15. little8
    little8 November 5, 2023 at 2:13 pm . Reply

    Ffs what a shite start come on boys top 4 on the table

  16. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum November 5, 2023 at 2:21 pm . Reply

    How the hell was Forest’s goal not offside? TWO players were off and in front of Emi???

  17. DSVilla
    DSVilla November 5, 2023 at 2:43 pm . Reply

    This game should be over by now. We aren’t really competing here

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