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    GIDDYVILLAN May 13, 2014 at 8:43 pm . Reply

    Withe was sub against Switzerland??

      GIDDYVILLAN May 13, 2014 at 8:52 pm . Reply

      Nah I’m 4 day’s out ohwell worth a go.

  2. Vaze
    Vaze May 13, 2014 at 9:50 pm . Reply

    I know that conversely, Bayern had most of the players from the West Germany side that got beaten in the ’82 World Cup final.

  3. Mark
    Mark May 14, 2014 at 12:53 am . Reply

    One record that Villa hold and I doubt will eveer be repeated.They remain the last club to have won the European Champions Cup/Champions League at the first attempt.In other words their first time of entering.

    1. OriginalLondonLion
      OriginalLondonLion May 14, 2014 at 2:15 am . Reply

      I think Mark you are not quite right. Leaving aside the first winners Real Madrid, I think Nottingham Forest won it at their first attempt, and defended it. But I stand to be corrected on that one.

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath May 14, 2014 at 11:19 am . Reply

        We weren’t far off defending it either still got to quarter finals but played a world class juventus team, with Rossi,platini, zoff and boniek. And that’s just their crap players lol

      2. Joe
        Joe May 14, 2014 at 12:45 pm . Reply

        Mark stated that we were the “last club” to have won the won it at the first attempt, both Real and Forest did it before we did so he is technically correct on that one.

  4. Bill Pearson.
    Bill Pearson. May 14, 2014 at 12:44 pm . Reply

    Firstly OLL, your not shell we say on a topic of doom and gloom, hence responds to your post , and it has to be said glory days that you and I was there. OLL have you any programs from the 80s as in one is a full feature of myself when working for the Villa, I feel that our paths have crossed over them years because I also traveled with Villa fans and management.and in one took 600 over by coach and train. Will Arthur Moseley ring any bells.

    GIDDYVILLAN May 14, 2014 at 2:50 pm . Reply

    One thing we did do was win it the hard way which should be the right way bollox to this group stage millarky you have a second bite of the cherry which you shouldn’t.whinge over

    1. BWS
      BWS May 14, 2014 at 3:48 pm . Reply

      Plus the fact you had to be CHAMPIONS.

    LANGFORDVILLA May 14, 2014 at 3:44 pm . Reply

    Giddy..well said mate. The current format is designed solely to enable the teams with the most financial clout to progress. Its stage-managed for TV companies to make mega bucks. It makes a mockery of fair competitive play. Not only that we had to play ‘the true champions of European football’…whereby only the league WINNERS could enter. It has been seriously devalued ……it should return to a knockout competition with only respective league winners in it. But that wont happen as the ‘footballing moneymen’ wont allow. How I long for the days when football success was measured in honours and trophies and NOT in poundnotes!

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain May 14, 2014 at 4:16 pm . Reply

      Langford – completely agree with you.
      UEFA have devalued both the European Cup and the UEFA/Fairs Cup by turning them both into these ‘league’ formats, and in the case of the CL, allowing any but the real league champions to enter.

      The whole set up is as TV-oriented and rigged as “WWF” [or whatever they now call it] and Formula 1; just a charade.

      Maybe we’ll live long enough to see TV audiences start to lose interest in football; another overdose this summer of the sort of crap world cup that we saw from S Africa in 2010 might just start people switching-off televised ‘soccer’…

    LANGFORDVILLA May 14, 2014 at 5:24 pm . Reply

    Even its name ‘Champioms League’ is contradictory. For example, what are Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, champions of?…..fuck all, and they wil compete in next seasons ‘made for TV competition’!

    1. BWS
      BWS May 14, 2014 at 5:28 pm . Reply

      The Cash Cow Cup.

    2. Riddog
      Riddog May 14, 2014 at 8:59 pm . Reply

      Langford. I completely agree with all you are saying. On a seperate note, I would like you to expand on your ‘clues’ regarding ‘future’ manager and chairman at AVFC……

        LANGFORDVILLA May 14, 2014 at 10:09 pm . Reply

        All I can is that neither the new owner or manager has been mentioned on this site YET. Look out for a ‘pleasant surprise’ BEFORE the end of May.
        Keep the faith.

        1. Bum Bum
          Bum Bum May 14, 2014 at 11:22 pm . Reply

          Read something in the tea leaves Langford????? I’m intrigued!

          1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath May 14, 2014 at 11:41 pm . Reply

            Malket mackay to be named new Norwich boss. Even they wouldn’t take lamberk back

          2. Andrew
            Andrew May 15, 2014 at 12:28 am . Reply

            Mackey, really? I’ve heard Lennon’s leaving Celtic for them. Lambert back to Celtic’s also a real possibility.

        2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath May 14, 2014 at 11:36 pm . Reply

          Carseun young and lee Clarke it is then!!

        3. Riddog
          Riddog May 15, 2014 at 8:45 pm . Reply

          Whatever you know is it definite then Langford?

  8. Tekkers48
    Tekkers48 May 14, 2014 at 6:33 pm . Reply

    Ive just been thinking about the sale of Villa and the timing. I know that this has been in the pipeline for sometime as the day Mcleish was appointed was the day Randy had gave up. But has he timed it right by being this close season as the World Cup will give the club some breathing space as very few deals happen before it. It has been written by a few journos that the sale process could take 2 months. If this is the case we are looking about end of June or early July. If this is the case we would have plenty of time for new faces to be added as the world cup will just be over.

  9. OriginalLondonLion
    OriginalLondonLion May 14, 2014 at 7:15 pm . Reply

    Mark is correct Villa were the last debutants to win it, but have Athletico taken part before? I do not remember them being good enough to qualify until last season.

    All the above comments about the 4 places competition I agree with, the effect of the Champions League is a self perpetuating elite. Boy does it ruffle feathers when one of the elite clubs misses out to the nouveau riche PSG or ManC. This is really what is behind the FFP introduction.

    Bill, I am sure we have met. My contacts at the club in the 80s that I remember the names of were Abdul Rashid, Sue Walker, Terry Weir and Steve Stride, also an Eric Woodward but not the one at Man U now. I do not recall Arthur Moseley. There is a picture of me in this year’s Stoke programme two to the left of the flag in Sinferopol.. I do not keep back progs but my mate in Portsmouth does so if you know the programme I can get a copy

    Ardent – you are the only other person I have seen put in print their belief that Formula1 is a choreographed charade like WWF. I agree – but fail to convince anyone else.

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain May 14, 2014 at 8:40 pm . Reply

      OLL – I think that once “TV” [and now the other mega-media organisations] become so heavily involved in a sport, it ceases to be real competition. They don’t like the risk of anything unexpected happening – got to make sure all the sponsors and advertisers aren’t upset by some low-rent upstart beating the expensive full-price members of the ‘club’!

  10. Bill Pearson.
    Bill Pearson. May 14, 2014 at 9:02 pm . Reply

    Originallondonlion, all in my time, infact Abdul Rashid was at one stage was a ball boy, then moved into promotions then onto running it, to think when he was a young lad he used to get under the gate or find him in the players tunnel, I’ve thrown him out dozen times, also do you remember Steves marriage to Sue? Arthur was assistant secretary to Steve Stride, Terry was Villa’s photographs for the club, and me chief steward in them days. as for the program will dig it out for you to see. If you was at the Rangers game it was me and not the police who order’s the door’s to be opened well before the police woke up. Happy days.

    1. Bill Pearson.
      Bill Pearson. May 14, 2014 at 9:05 pm . Reply

      Also John Partridge gate controller Originallondonlion.

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath May 14, 2014 at 11:38 pm . Reply

      So it was you. Why didn’t you put them in old witton it used to hold around 15k plus

      1. Bill Pearson.
        Bill Pearson. May 15, 2014 at 6:56 am . Reply

        Oohah, I arrived at the ground about 11 am to find the prat of police commander had ordered to get them off the streets, some had slept in parks ,been in pubs all night, I went ape shit but he over rode me, I told him what might happen and it did. Will never forget it Oohah was a cover up what they had done.

  11. OriginalLondonLion
    OriginalLondonLion May 14, 2014 at 10:26 pm . Reply

    I was at the Rangers game. For those who do not know, this was a “friendly” I think pre season or in a cup round hiatus. We got off the train from London at New Street, noticed something odd when there were no special buses to the ground and hailed a cab who refused to take us to Villa Park. The story of how many Jocks had turned up the night before and the damage done was all over Brum – but news to the London Lions. When we did get to the ground we found Rangers had taken over the Holte End. I never did understand how that happened, but you are the man to ask Bill.

  12. Jay Dee
    Jay Dee May 15, 2014 at 10:39 am . Reply

    Looks like Lerners put the club up for sale with NO buyer.If we arnt bought before the new season starts we could be in dire shit.What a cluster fuck this club is.

      GIDDYVILLAN May 15, 2014 at 11:13 am . Reply

      Watch it Ray ranson will rear his ugly head soon.

      1. Saddened
        Saddened May 15, 2014 at 11:51 am . Reply

        now there is one name that we don’t want to see !

  13. BillyWalkerShirt
    BillyWalkerShirt May 15, 2014 at 12:31 pm . Reply

    Right lads and lasses sit down, pin back your lug holes take deep breath and get your heads around this.
    Well I heard a rumour today the reason Randy’s selling is due to the club it being under investigation for class A drugs use (or miss use – allegedly).
    Now I thought the same as you are thinking, what a right load of old b*****ks but then I googled it and guess what comes out in the wash –

    Apr 19, 2014.
    A major football club in England has been rocked by a drugs scandal that has gone as far as the police and the English authorities, the Observer can reveal.

    The police were called in to investigate after senior members of staff started suspecting some of their colleagues were regularly using class-A drugs inside the stadium. The allegations go to the top of the club and involve at least one high-profile figure with a considerable reputation within the sport.

    Then The Guardian Saturday 19 April 2014

    On one occasion, two prominent officials were allegedly caught snorting cocaine in the boardroom of a rival club during an away fixture

    And we are the only club to have suspended two prominent officials?
    Perhaps I’m adding 2+2 and coming up with 5 but who knows?

  14. New Regime
    New Regime May 15, 2014 at 12:40 pm . Reply

    even if someone buys us I have the feeling we’ll be in the same shit 8 years from now or even sooner. We could easily find ourselves with yet another US owner who doesn’t have a clue what the game of football is all about

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