The last home game of the season has come around again and once again we’re perennial strugglers.
I’m stating the obvious there, of course, but it got me thinking about how the fans should react during this game, which I’ll be attending with two of my grandkids, my son-in-law and his father.
The truth is, I’m not even looking forward to it game-wise, although the atmosphere should be pretty good. Assuming we’re putting up a decent show, that is.
Which is the part that worries me.
The headline question I’ve asked should of course be a no-brainer. You support the team through thick and thin, particularly during the game.
But let’s say we are losing early on.
Then what?
Do we keep blindly supporting a team that might be taking us down?
Or should we voice the disdain that we apparently near enough all view the hierarchy in?
That’s my personal dilemma.
If we are indeed losing and looking as poor as we have mostly done through the season, especially at home and keep blindly supporting, we won’t be making a major point in the most powerful way we can ie chanting loudly for Lambert/Lerner/the board out.
That’s the part that gets shown on the news and chanting/protesting after the game has finished doesn’t do it, in my opinion.
And the whole lot of them will have basically gotten away with it.
I already know what most of the responses will be.
“You can’t create a negative vibe when the team needs us in such a dire situation”.
And those responses will be correct.
Even Lambert knows it and actually said it in a recent interview.
Football fans support, no matter what. It’s what we do.
Indeed, I can’t see myself protesting during the game.
But I’m wondering if it might be better for the club overall, if I do, in that it might drive the message home to Lerner and Faulkner.
What a state we’re in for me to even contemplate such a thing.
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144 responses to “Villa-Hull; Protest during the game or not?”
Protest after the game not before or during we really need to be supportive this game and the players need that extra lift. Another thing is the atmosphere could be rocking prior to kick off, if small heath are relegated then I think that would give the crowd a big boost. Win lose or draw protest after the game.
That won’t happen imagine if we win 3.0 then lambert apologists will bury their heads in the sand again. Best to protest before game then at half time. Fuck the getting behind team bollox wev been behind them all season and they are still shit. They are paid thousands a week to win whether we get behind them or not. They can’t even give us anything to get behind either.
Lol…so your looking for something to get behind oohah….I thought you were passed that kind of behaviour :)……you should be banned for smutiness!
Ha ha 🙂
NO WAY protest during the game. I think everyone should turn their backs as soon as the players emerge from the tunnel for the end of season farewell. This would get the message through clearly……perhaps accompanied with a slow handclap!
But PLEASE, for 90 minutes give your all!
But that’s specifically aiming your disgust at the players and I don’t think that’s the correct way to go about it Langford.
It isn’t necessarily their fault that most just aren’t good enough and most of them are triers, after all.
As I said, anything after the game won’t have much effect, imo.
Tbh, I raised this just as a thought.
I suspect Oohah is nearer the mark, in that we’ll have a two minute bitch after the game if we lose and a party if we win.
I just hate the fact that regardless of how poor we’ve been this season, the hierarchy might be thinking “well the criticism isn’t as bad as it seems to be in the media”.
I understand what your saying Badger and fully agree that its not there fault they are not good enough…..but it would also be clear that if they are not good enough its down to mis management and a pennypinching owner who has virtually abandoned the club for the last 3 years. All I ever expect from players is 100% effort, commitment and pride in the shirt!
Man city turn their backs when their players score and they are top 3 🙂
Even my 8 year old daughter said to me today, y should we applaud them at the end when they haven’t give us nothing to applaud all season. Wheres our thanks for supporting them when the players and management have been utter shite for 2 seasons and longer
If an 8 yr old can see how crap we are something is seriously wrong imo
She’s bang on the money, can you imagine if the players came round to do a circuit of the pitch, and not one person clapped or said anything. Not that you could ever get everyone to do this, but that would certainly make the papers. “The whole stadium in silence as the players did a curcuit round the pitch clapping the supporters for their support during the season”
if Lambert, Lerner, Faulkner, don’t know the game is up already protesting during/after the game is pointless if results go our way on Saturday and we protest the media would have a field day with fickle villa fans win, lose, protest,or accept it calmly were bolloxed
That’s a good point, Billy’s.
So whatever the fans do, they’re wrong, which just seems wrong in itself.
FWIW, I’ve never subscribed with this “fickle” bollocks.
If you think the team’s shit you complain, simple and that’s the same for all clubs.
Our motley crew will be paying £135 to watch what will probably be another mediocre performance on Saturday. We’re entitled to moan when we’re nowhere near where we ought to be (even if your sights are as low as top 8), imo.
It’s not that I’m calling for an in-game protest. I’m not, at all.
Does it matter what the media claim though? They have no idea what Villa fans actually think/go through. They’re spitting out garbage to get readers, insulting Villa fans gets that.
If I was able to be there on saturday I would want to give them hell from start to finish but I will be distracted from that anyway as I will be following the Stoke v Fulham game more closely than our own. Sums up how shite we have become that I have more hope for Stoke to save us from relegation than ourselves. Those that can attend should give them both barrells as you may never get another chance to or it could be to late.
its already too late to to protest to make any difference, support during the game win or lose, we have probably left it to late to organize a measured dignified protest that would be picked up across the pond to embarrass the the no class septic.
Protest. Before kick off. Cheer the lads on IF they deserve it. Half time – protest. If we’re losing towards the end then may all hell break loose. Protest after the game too.
The three idiots need to go. A rubbish chairman, a rubbish ceo and a rubbish manager. The club will be there long after we, they and the players have all gone. The club us what matters and it needs a MASSIVE shake up. Don’t be weak – ruffle feathers now!!
Yawn yawn we are being linked with Hernandez and holt by must be struggling to sell season tickets again! If this is true it means Lerner and lamberk are here next season. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2617209/Aston-Villa-raise-expectations-targetting-Javier-Hernandez-Lewis-Holtby.html#comments
You are again believing the Dailyfail… Oh my mate… Just oh my.
You do realize that we’re linked to multiple strikers due to Benteke’s injury, right? Simply a small upgrade to the usual players linked because Lambert wants more money means nothing.
This link is in all the papers though even the Bham mail
Hernandez to Villa! Oh stop it me sides are hurting.
He was on £75000 a week in 2011 and of course Randy’s going to match, no better that?? “Boss boss, its de plane, de plane!
Lescott & holtby in the mix aswell( telegraph) there coming thick & fast now before Saturday.
The list is endless – Aston Globe Trotters? What a right load of old bollox to try a get them season tickets moving.
More chance we’d after Billy Sharp form Doncaster or Greg Stewart from Stenhousemuir.
It’s so obvious mate I’m sick & tired of the predictable bullshite with an obvious alteria motive behind them.
You really couldn’t make this shit up, do the club think we are thick as the gypsies at St Andrews
lewis holtby lambert tried to get him in summer and January but wage budget wouldn’t stretch, i like him, had some good games for fulham, definitely a player we need in my opinion.
I think the only protest they will understand is one that hits them in the wallet. Therefore do not buy ST’s early for the 10% discount. Wait and see which division you will be watching and who is filling the claret & blue shirts, and the dug out. You can be reasonably certain a seat similar to yours will still be available post the world cup.
Spot on 10% equates to 30-40 tops which will mean fuck all if we are stuck with the current regime. Once you’ve renewed you’ve lost all bargaining power and accepting this dross for another year
I think that the only justifiable protest is by Hull fans against being called Tigers.
Be careful what you wish for.
“The only justifiable protest”! How weak can u get Vaze? So fans should just put up with this shit then? Or were you being ironic?
Yes mate we should all just shut up & put up, like FUCK we should.
I wasn’t going to comment but… Is there a better way deflect the truth of our own owners short comings than to deflect it onto Hull’s? Regardless of the mess at VP and we are like a ship populated by human inhabitants who are deranged, frivolous, or oblivious passengers aboard a ship without a pilot, and seemingly ignorant of their own direction but still better the devil you know and all that?
All I’m going to add is look at the league table, it’s Hull’s first season in the EPL whereas the SKY money’s been rolling in down at VP season after season but there a gain we could do worse than Randy, couldn’t we???
Being renamed the Villa lions for massive cash injection and top 6 position…. i would take it !!
BWS, with you 100% mate what a motley crew we have, sheep ,sheep, don’t go don’t spend, and things will change for the better. FULL STOP.
So the question is, protest or don’t. Well… The players have been supported each and every game for 35 games, has it worked? No. Do they play any harder for it? No. Do they care? Very few. Supports backing the players has done absolutely nothing for them. It’s the one thing that pisses me off about Lambert the most, this “we need support” garbage.
I know this is irrelevant to this thread, but can anyone believe we lost to Fulham twice this season?! Thats just embarassing, they are absolutely woeful. How does Lambert sleep at night?!!
He just gets out of bed and says to himself “We go again tonight”…
I think just go with the flow Saturday if we’re playing the usual crap vent your anger if for some reason we’re doing well show your support. But by the final whistle express your feelings for what has been an atrocious season & there ain’t no getting away from that.
Ps I have a feeling if we lose there will be pitch invasion so Lambert better a decent pair of running shoes on.
Great News Lads !! We are saved.
Gabbys come out in the press and said he his up for the fight against Hull.
Where has he been for the rest of the season (except Liverpool away first half).
No protest during the game – it can do no good to the platers at all.
Let Lambert and the board have both barrels at the end.
Yeah the usual bullshite hype gabbys up for it, that would be a first for ages.he should be up for every game or has he forgot that.
Apologists – Hahahahaha. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Definitely support during the whole game its the biggest game of our season which is depressing but it is what it is! All these hypocrites sayin we should hav half time protests and crap and then also say the players should be up for this game no matter what sorry but it just doesn’t work that way! If we’re losing 1-0 at half time the fans should support even more and give their all through the whole game just like they expect the players too! If the players heads dropped at half time and they gave up they would be slated so why should fans do it? If we lose then give them hell!
Also hernandez please no he’s just a younger darren bent with a little more technical ability and yes he probably would be one of our best players but still at the end of the day a limited player that gets paid too much! Plus i hate man u rejects!
Kerry don’t worry Hernandez won’t ever come to the Vila, Randy wouldn’t pay for his taxi…. Just more pure bullshit to get the crowd behind the team for Saturday as Randy has realised if we go down he may lose a few quid…. It really stinks but its the truth !!
With the football league finishing this weekend, would Grealish be available for the final 2 games depending on safety etc? With Cowans now involved in first team set up surely he would be considered? By all accounts he has done very well during his loan spell and especially of late….. Sorry to go off topic, just curious.
Paul McGrath was a Man U reject!!
Fucking good reject Nath,wouldn’t you say.
ur beginning 2av obsession with me bill, but if u think i posted that ur wrong as usual. ask the ppl who run this site. iam sure they could confirm both i didn’t post it and ur a idiot
Shower of shite I ain’t goin can’t be arsed to spend my hard earned at a club who can’t be arsed to give the supporters something back.Lately Lerners been a selfish one sided knob who gives nothing back not even a presser.Untill this shit changes VP will not have my money.Go down for all I care.UTV
Sorry
I may be missing the point here but why would calling for lambert, lerner and the board to go during the game effect the players?
if at half time and we are loosing you boo the players off which is worst? I have head boos a plaenty this season at half and full time but on the other hand ive heard 18 games at home where the crowd are right behind the lads.
Football is about entertainment…if you start watching a film and 10 minutes in you decide you cant get into it you turn it off?? but the crowds have come in there thousands all season.. “Lamberts words”
However, I agree with the posts at the start, its not the players fault that some are not good enough nor is it there fault what system the management team set them up in.. players make mistakes every week (ask stevie G) that’s a fact of life here.
For me its irrelevant if the media pick on any protest aslong as the correct people hear it. for me it should start before the game… fans arrive early in there thousands and say what you want to say.. and then during half time and the final whistle.
I don’t really wish for the Villa to go down I would hate it.I just can’t get my head around the way Lerners treated AVFC in recent times.I think giving the team 100% support and showing that the supporters carry out their duties for the team and AVFC and don’t sink to Lerners & Lamboners level.When the game is done sing out loud in proud.If the game is lost at half time then do your worst to show our disgust.Long Live Aston Villa……
I agree Jaydee, its hard because if we go down it will affect Lerners pocket and so it should, but if we stay up we will be subjected to the same shite we’ve had for the last 4 seasons…. I really don’t see him selling up as he would have said “look I am off but this is on the condition we stay up” everyone would have been overjoyed…….This “I will talk to the fans after the end of the season” is all the usual bullshit the club spout, which happens about now along with crappy transfer rumours…
I’m not buying into anything that sounds like or actually does involve AVFC.I will not spend another £ until I see change for the better at the club….UTV
Ruined
But JayDee, haven’t you seen the papers? We’re spending heavily on top rated players with the highest level of experience for next season! I’d snatch up that discounted ST today if I were u mate!!!! Everything is gonna be fantastic come August as the three stooges have each had a brain transplant!!! Whoooooo! Whoooooooooo! !!! Snarf! Snarf!
What utter bullshit from the Villa PR spins machine all over again. Do they think we’re ‘completely’ stupid? Sigh…..
Good news can’t wait for Ronaldo and Messi to come better rush out and get st now!!!
I’m kind of wondering how ambitious we truly are when Hernandez, Holtby and Lescott are considered big players.
Big players for us all better than what Wev got but that’s not saying much
But since Benteke’s injured, is he gonna leave? Is Benteke, Kozak (who’s bound to come back soon too), Helenius (if he ever gets a chance) and Robinson not enough? Do we need another striker when we play… 1? A Holtby and a Lescott is arguably needed, but would you start Lescott over Vlaar or Okore when he comes back? Especially as Lescott’s wages would probably be as high as Gabby’s or Benteke’s. Plus if these are the best players we can get, and he considers them big (but then again these are media players for ya), then I’m still worried.
villa park can be a very noisy place and has seen its fair share of protests but can you tell me of any that achieved anything. a mass noisy well published protest could have a negative effect of scaring of potential buyers
Good point BB, but I think most (not all) mega rich dudes have thicker skins than most of us mortals. It could backfire, but on the other hand could read our protests for what they really are: passionate support for our mistreated club.
No more like show a potential buyer we’re passionate about our beloved club & don’t want to be in this mire.
Other teams protest like hull, utd etc. You wait and see if a utd are as bad next season there will be riots against the glaziers
I will be waiting until after the summer to see who we buy if we stay up.Then I will decide if it will be worth spending my hard earned wages on tickets.If Lerner if still at AVFC doesn’t put proper funding to transfers/quality then I won’t be wasting my time & money on a club that lacks a passionate ambitious owner.UTV
I urge you all to do the same
I have drawn my line
Exactly jay dee no point in committing now. We don’t even know what division we will be in. Iv decided not to get ST whilst Lerner and lamberk are still here. Even if they went and signed holtby and lescott it won’t be enough for me. Complete wholesale changes are needed and you can be sure if Lerner is in charge even if he bought a couple of decent signings in it will be at the expense of selling Benteke next jan. He is like the Tory government gives with one hand, takes with another. For me to renew I want new owners and new manager. All my mates who are regular ST holders in different parts of the ground have said they refuse to renew until we know where we are going and they all want lambert and Lerner out even if we beat man city 25.0.
Lerner needs to be given a message by all that if he carryssick on fuckin with the Villa no supporter will go to VP
Unfortunately there are thousands who are stupid enough to renew. More fool them imo
Lerner is also like Labour – pisses good money up the wall, gets tied up in debt with no visible results.
Carrys on
on a slightly different note i see we are linked with all these players and Lambert saying this bargain basement buying must stop well all the bargain basement players that we will get rid of are probably thinking well we may as-well play in the championship with villa and not bother playing for a win on Saturday this is either bad pr from the club or it would be a much better story for the media if we go down instead of the cockneys from fulham
You gotta wonder how it makes these players feel. Would you try hard when your own manager basically calls you a bargain basement signing? It might motivate some as they know they’ll be replaced and need to play as well as possible to make sure they can stay in a possible big league, but this isn’t how you motivate your players for the last 3 games, by calling them bargain basement buys, we need better players and whatnot.
Billy, he’d get a bit more respect from me if he actually admitted that the project had failed. It was his choice to go with inexperienced players and he’s now changed his mind with no recognition that he was wrong in the first place. Does he honestly take the fans for short term memory mugs? Please don’t forget that this was his doing in the first place, he never inherited a team of championship players, he bought the useless fools. Turn the light off when you leave Lamberk.