The last home game of the season has come around again and once again we’re perennial strugglers.
I’m stating the obvious there, of course, but it got me thinking about how the fans should react during this game, which I’ll be attending with two of my grandkids, my son-in-law and his father.
The truth is, I’m not even looking forward to it game-wise, although the atmosphere should be pretty good. Assuming we’re putting up a decent show, that is.
Which is the part that worries me.
The headline question I’ve asked should of course be a no-brainer. You support the team through thick and thin, particularly during the game.
But let’s say we are losing early on.
Then what?
Do we keep blindly supporting a team that might be taking us down?
Or should we voice the disdain that we apparently near enough all view the hierarchy in?
That’s my personal dilemma.
If we are indeed losing and looking as poor as we have mostly done through the season, especially at home and keep blindly supporting, we won’t be making a major point in the most powerful way we can ie chanting loudly for Lambert/Lerner/the board out.
That’s the part that gets shown on the news and chanting/protesting after the game has finished doesn’t do it, in my opinion.
And the whole lot of them will have basically gotten away with it.
I already know what most of the responses will be.
“You can’t create a negative vibe when the team needs us in such a dire situation”.
And those responses will be correct.
Even Lambert knows it and actually said it in a recent interview.
Football fans support, no matter what. It’s what we do.
Indeed, I can’t see myself protesting during the game.
But I’m wondering if it might be better for the club overall, if I do, in that it might drive the message home to Lerner and Faulkner.
What a state we’re in for me to even contemplate such a thing.
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144 responses to “Villa-Hull; Protest during the game or not?”
You can read the signs now, panic at the club, the thinking is if we don’t put out the PR that coming out now like we are going to spend big, top names coming, the supposedly new owner won’t buy, its put the shits up Lerner he won’t get what he wants. Me not getting sweet FA from Villa till I see in Black and White change ,and new faces. f;:k um till then.
Same here mate,enoughs enough.
That’s it Lerner has to put in in a respectable way worthy of the Villa.Goes around comes around
No ST for me next season unless Lambert, Lerner are both gone and the new owners (?) spend a ‘significant’ amount of money with a decent manager at the helm.
We will NOT be relegated
Fuck off Lambert and Lerner, the Villa is OURS!
If Lerner isn’t willing to spend money why the FUCK should the fans. Hi LANGFORD
Agree totally
Hi giddy…hows you mate. I am right pissed off with the joke that Villa have become!
Likewise mate,hopefully there is a change on the horizon.it’s pretty SHITE being a VILLA fan atm >:)
with all these projected fees and wages being bandied around i think i would of rather we kept young =, downing, milner,Barry,and with bent playing in the middle of that lot now theirs a nuclease to take to the world cup instead of three ruined careers because of penny pinching
But none of those players wanted to stay at Villa once they got a better offer, except Bent who didn’t get a better offer.
Support the team during the game. Protest after the final whistle, regardless of the result.
Totally agree bencey, don’t get all these people say we should protest from start to finish? We need to win this game and the team need every bit of support but some people would sooner rather jeopardise PL safety to prove there point. Win, lose or draw protest should start when the game has ended.
But the thing is is what’s gonna change from all 35 games to this one? Have they not been backed all season and have they not put in pathetic, dull, not a care in the world performances 95% of the time?
I know where your coming from but why make things more difficult before the game has even started? I want Villa in the PL next year so I will support them in trying to achieve that in the 90 minutes! Plus none of these protest will happen before the game, by the time we kick off Small Heath could be already relegated and there will be a joyous mood come kick off hopefully….
Eh, I get it, but I’m more just annoyed that these calls for support from Lambert, the players and such when the players have always been supported and they’ve done nothing with it. But you don’t have to worry, no one’s gonna actually protest before/during the game, unless Villa start losing.
yeah but they were in a privileged position and saw what was coming hence downing s comments about staying, as soon as possible they all ran
The Stoke – Fulham game is of more relevance tbh as I know we’re going to get 0 points already. Our survival hinges heavily on that game.
Also, surely the club wouldn’t dare do a lap of honour on the back of this truly appauling season, or would they, who knows with the muppets in charge. It’s better for everyone’s sake they don’t as it will only result in abuse being thrown at all involved in a less than half empty stadium. Though Lamberk and co could do with hearing a few home truths.
Nevertheless, I am confident that this will be the final wretched home game under the worst and most dislikeable manager to have ever graced our great club. I just sincerely hope it is also the last game at Villa Park with Lerner and Faulkner. not that it makes any difference where Lerner is concerned, surprised he can even remember where VP is given the time frame since his last visit.
I dunno, I do think Villa can get a point against Hull, but either way, a walk of honor is a joke. Final whistle goes, should be a walk out despite the result. Wouldn’t give them the time of day.
We need only positive vibes tomorrow everyone, that will transfer through our televsision screens and for the fands travelling to VP, on to the field. Like I said to the missus late last year in a hospital ward, One last big push!
Imagine, by 6pm tomorrow, we could potentially (and I really hope to) be looking at a Villa win and a Bolton win. Happy days all round!
vtid
I guess it’s up to individuals how they react. Ultimately, protesting/booing is letting off steam. It has been a long period of disappointment.
I don’t think it will make any difference to anything that will happen though. I’m sure Lerner, Faulkner and Lambert all understand where fans are coming from. I also think decisions have already been made about next season. No idea if that means he is selling but I can’t see him leaving things as they are. If the statements about the accounts dealing with all the previous financial mess are true, there is an opportunity for Lerner to invest a decent sum without getting in the same mess.
Holtby/Hernandez/Lescott? Don’t think so as the wages would be too high, and let’s face it, why would you move to Villa for any other reason?
Let’s just hope we get over the line and whatever changes take place see next season being a lot more positive.
If something don’t change DS we are going to get dragged down it’s an inevitability.
Looking on Wiki at the record of our nearest neighbours (who incidentally are the all time most relegated team from the top flight of English football) and it appears to be a pattern, Hover just above the relegation places for a few seasons then the trap door goes and down you go.
They’ve done time and time again and we need to break the cycle before it’s to late (that’s if it isn’t already!)
Mate I’ll keep on saying it till my head explodes I feel we deserve the drop I do believe it’s our year.I’m fucked off with relying on other teams to bail us out. That surely can’t be right ?
It’s bad mate, Villa relying on stoke to save us from the abyss, wtf is happing in the world? Three games and a possible 9 to play for, Giddy what’s your prediction on how many we’ll pick up?
FUCK ALL MATE.
Totally agree BWS. There will be change. If you try to look at it from Lerner’s viewpoint, he will have seen the way we finished last season as a vindication of the new policy. With the additional investment made in the summer he would have expected a reasonable season.
The way it has turned out means that he is hugely at risk of losing a great deal of money. There is no logic in looking forward to the same next season(assuming we stay up). Better to invest a decent sum based on increased Sky money and lower wage bill after some big earners leave. That’s if he stays. I am still struggling to see any truth in the takeover story. We should know soon enough, unless of course Lerner’s after season statement is just as cryptic as he recent one.
That’s what I’ll never understand from the Gérard Houllier reign, he (GH) took ill McAllister took over and it was all looking peachy. Time then to put GH upstairs pulling the strings and McAllister running the playing side of things? Then imo we’d have been ok. But no Lerner went for complete wholesale change with McClown and just what the f**k that was about I’ll never know.
Then the present incumbent, well imo you sorta have to feel for him.
Is he up to the job? Well probably not but few managers could have done much with what he’s been given to work with but there again as you say DS, towards the end of last season it looked like it was all coming together so where did it go so horribly wrong this term?
Lerner cut too much too quick, we needed evolution not revolution and his gamble just might cost him (and us) dear.
GH upstairs would probably have been good for us. That said he did buy some crap at Liverpool. As for McAllister, I have a mate who played in a charity golf match organised by BMW or Audi just after Houlliers heart problems. One of the celebrity hosts was Gary McAllister. He (GM) had one too many and was spouting off about how he was going to be the next Villa manager. A few weeks later McLeish got the job.
I think Lerner probably had to cut back as sharply as he did (from his need to get things in shape). It was still a big gamble and this year it could come back to haunt him. It will almost certainly happen next year if things don’t change.
Being the final home game wheather we win or lose, when the players do there walk of shame around the pitch fans should have their backs to them for a lacklustre season. Just a thought folks
To right we should!
I agree do it
With you on this one DS.
We are still in deep trouble, though I can’t see two clubs below us pulling off the required points. Good job, because I can’t see us getting another, but booing and protesting before the off isn’t the solution.
I very much doubt that Randloph will base his decision on the club on whether he hears boos tomorrow or we all follow Giddy’s advice to humiliate the players when they come out with their families to thank us for our support through a shyte season.
I’m in two minds on this one, best case is we move to some philanthropic billionaires, worst case is Lambert is given £20m or less to spend.
Either way I’ll be there to see the never ending saga that is the Villa.
PS – it’s the last day of the King Edwards tomorrow, be another decent match day boozer to go.
Don’t you think the players have humiliated the fans? So we should go easy on them What a load of bollox.
Lose Saturday and other teams around us win we are down
Agreed, if we can’t get something at home to Hull whilst all the other sides below us win away, we probably deserve to go down.
I really can’t see that happening.
Here’s to home wins for Bolton and Villa !!!
i hope the villa fans attending do support the worst villa team in living memory.i couldn’t care either way wot happens after the 90 minutes. this weekend should tell us which league we will be struggling in nxt year.
Birmingham look like they are dropping another league.nice bet .villa stoke and bolton £10treble 🙂
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Gianfranco Zola for Villa manager????
Well it is a new name, but a bigger joke than Lambert if we got him.
No I don’t get how that would be an advantageous or progressive appointment.
What about dimatteo?
wot about gus poyet guys 🙂 Sunderland style is easy on the eye and effective, he managed to produce same as at Brighton and he managed to sort out a rite mess left by the madman
Wasn’t he Oohah’s choice from day one after we parted company with the M word?
Oohah the oracle.
as long as he cleans the showers up afterwards !!!
Yep always rated poyet he coukd do well with money behind him. But not Zola nice guy but that’s it
Don’t rate Poyet at all.
Spent £20m last Summer and his two big signings have been complete flops.
A very lucky win at Stamford Bridge could keep him up, not a CV I’d be lingering over if I were Lerner.
One win and one draw in twelve prior to the Chelsea miracle.
Talk about out of the frying pan…
…they’re not safe yet.
i would like to see poyet with steve clarke. great attacking manager with allegedly one of the best defensive coaches in the country. they were at chelsea together too. cant c it happening tbh
I’m probably an old cynic, but just how many clubs feel that they DESERVE better, and to be in the top four or so ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27253371
Do Man U stage a protest because they’re only fifth or sixth this season ?
I know that the football at VP has been shyte, but are we in danger of just crying out for sugar daddies and sulking if we can’t have one ?
Seriously, does the custodian of a club have to feel obliged to spend a large amount of his own fortune as part of the deal ?
I ponder over that too Vaze. The thing is it goes with the territory. Don’t buy a football club unless you have very deep pockets and are prepared to lavish cash on it season after season. Lerner started out that way, which is probably why fans are so disillusioned.
It’s the luck of the draw really. City got the oil barons. That could have been us or any other club.
The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced Lerner will still be the owner next year. Not because he wants to be, but because he will struggle to find a buyer that will get him out of the mess he is in. IF that’s the case he has a real dilemma. More of the same = probable relegation and more damage to his wealth. New manager = pay offs and new player recruitment. If that doesn’t work it’s more damage to his asset.
If he sticks with Lambert he would still need to invest in the squad. Can he trust Lambert to sort it out and not waste more cash?
Maybe the only thing worse than being a Villa fan would be being Lerner!
Do you work for Lerner Vaze? Your voice of reason is far too sympathetic to be real. You just apologise for the current regime post after post. Most of us are realistic, but also expect just a little more honesty and effort from our club.
UTD don’t face possible relegation so wheres the comparison?
All things are relative.
We’re Villa, so feel that not winning many home games and being in the relegation shake up is beneath us.
I have no idea why Newcastle are pissed off with finishing ninth, we relegated them a few seasons back.
As for Man U, they’re used to winning a trophy or three EVERY season, so to finish seventh or eighth is not what they pay their money for.
We’d be fairly happy to have had Man U’s season, as I said, it’s about conditioning and expectation. Mine are pretty bloody low and I’ve still been disappointed this season !
i totally agree with everything u said, but ur wasting ur time sharing with the rest of us because they refuse to see the light.
weekend is almost ere and my stomach is knotting already, i just heard sky tipping fulham 2 beat stoke how do w feel about this ??? also apparently stoke are without their main center backs huth and shawcroft
Has it ever crossed your mind that the teams you’ve mentioned have set the bench mark higher & what the FUCKS wrong with that???
Off topic lads does any one know if any pubs around Aston show the villa games on tv cause got some mate coming on the piss but they ain’t going the game.
the local by me might what area do you live in?
Why not phone the pubs in close vicinity to the ground?
might as well go to the game if your that close to ground giddy lol
He did state around Aston so I thought near the ground,me personally I would get some booze from an offy & doss down in Aston park because you’ll know what’s going with all the expletives echoing from the holte just a thought mate utv
No worries got em a couple of tickets for north stand only trouble is they probably won’t be my mates come Saturday evening after putting them through that. Cheers
I would recommend the King Edward on Lichfield Road for a pint if they feel like leaving at halftime.
If they can stick it out that long lol !
Hull apparently have not scored against Villa for 25 years? I have total faith that Mr Lambert will but that right tomorrow!
Stoke hadn’t won on the road all season until they visited us, so it’s more than possible MATE.
We hadn’t lost 10 homes games etc until this joker lamberk came
He really is a mumbling clown! It’s laughable his still manager…. You can guarantee when he is sacked or leaves the media will say what a great job he was doing and was unlucky to be sacked!
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/01/premier-league-accounts-club-by-club-david-conn
West ham turnover more than us?
That’s just embarrassing, even though they’re a London club.
That said, the figures are miles out of date.
i found this interesting 2 compare ourselves with other smaller premier teams, we need 2 compete more off field, aswell as definitely on field
It’s amazing that WH want Sam out even though he’s done quite well and kept them up. Yet Wev done fuck all to get lamberk out. If we don’t hound him out today he will be here next year