Villa – Brentford: Do we expect three points? POLL

Well the good news is that the proper footy is back.
There’s more good news, in that Hutton and Samba are both fit and available for selection.

But the really good news is that Jonathan Kodjia is really close and will feature for the U-23’s on Monday, according to the OS.
While I’m not going to get carried away and expect him to hit the ground running, scoring a boatload of goals that propel us to the top of the table in short time, this is a massive psychological boost to us Villa fans.
His return will also provide Steve Bruce with a very pleasant dilemma where he has to decide if he’ll throw Kodjia straight back in.
I know it seems a no-brainer, but what about Hogan, who looks close to coming good and Davies, who has looked excellent? Don’t they deserve a bit of a run?
Decisions, decisions, eh? and who’d be a manager?

Onto the actual game then and Brentford have had as poor a start as us.
Talking of poor starts, Bruce has said we’ve had an “average” one.
I’d suggest he looks at the table where the average should be 7 points and not the 5 we currently have.

Whatever, there’s no doubting Brentford have had a poor start.
They’ve gained two draws in their first five games, meaning they’re second bottom in the table.
Hence, unless we revert to the “expect Villa to end the opposition’s poor run” syndrome, we should expect to come away with all three points, shouldn’t we?

I’d originally expected this game to be probably the last one in what I thought was a tough start, but now expect it to be very winnable.
Which should hopefully prove a nice continuation from the week before the international break and better still, a good start to what will hopefully prove a very fruitful September, where we climb the table.

I’ll go for a 2-1 win.

But I’m very interested in what you think, so I’ll add a poll.


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  1. badger123
    badger123 September 8, 2017 at 9:21 pm . Reply

    Blimey, someone thinks we’ll lose!
    (Oohah, own up).
    And some call me pessimistic?

  2. Andrew
    Andrew September 8, 2017 at 10:20 pm . Reply

    Went for a draw. Defensively we’re as bad as they are conceding 9 goals (even with the amazing Terry) and they average a goal a game so far. It’s gotta be a low blow to lose three starters to City though. Jota, Dean and Colin. They’ve seem to have gone with potential, signing the likes of Watkins so I don’t think they’re looking at pushing on but we’re also very good at giving under-performing and low confidence sides that confidence.

    1. badger123
      badger123 September 8, 2017 at 11:39 pm . Reply

      Andrew, moving players en masse never works, imo.
      Blues will do ok, but not great imo.

      We should have enough to beat Brentford, is the point.
      And if we can’t, well ,,,,,

      1. Andrew
        Andrew September 9, 2017 at 6:19 am . Reply

        Especially three starters and Jota was their best player.

        I got your point and I agree, we should. I just don’t think we will.

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 3:14 pm . Reply

          If we don’t win today Bruce’s position has to be untenable

  3. jvillan
    jvillan September 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm . Reply

    this headline cannot be serious
    bir mail bruce urges club to sign right back stephen kelly

  4. DSVilla
    DSVilla September 9, 2017 at 4:00 pm . Reply

    Bruce still our manager? Not long for him now. Can’t come soon enough

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 4:04 pm . Reply

      Agree I know we are only an average team but this is a real low point

      1. DSVilla
        DSVilla September 9, 2017 at 4:13 pm . Reply

        I think Bruce is the reason we are average. We should be right at the top of this league with the squad we have. Nowhere near good enough and it will probably be too late when he is fired (end of this month I expect)

  5. VillaAwayInDiv3
    VillaAwayInDiv3 September 9, 2017 at 4:12 pm . Reply

    Why bother running down the wing and then stop and pass back…everytime.

  6. VillaAwayInDiv3
    VillaAwayInDiv3 September 9, 2017 at 4:49 pm . Reply

    Brentford should be at least 3 – 4 up.

    1. Sidforever
      Sidforever September 9, 2017 at 5:02 pm . Reply

      Promotion requires us winning our matches. Dr Xia has stated September crucial. It would not surprise me if we loose against Middlesbrough on Tuesday SB will be picking up his P45. 6 games and 6 points, whereas top 2 on 16/14 points respectively. SB has nearly had a year and there is very little improvement in our position. I think it’s time for someone new.

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 5:35 pm . Reply

        Agree. Not a chance in hell of us beating boro

        1. Sidforever
          Sidforever September 9, 2017 at 6:04 pm . Reply

          I’m going to the Boro match with one of my oldest friends, who is a Boro fan. Driving from the South coast. I reckon the journey back will be a fun one!

          The key question is who can manage Villa? An issue is that a number of managers are on the “sack merry go round”. £m pay off move to new job 6 months later. If we go for this approach I would be happy with Sam Alladyce, he knows how to grind results out and that is what counts at the moment to be promoted out of the Championship.

          However, part of my thought process is go for an untried British manager, who has demonstrated promise with an unfancied team. There is always the risk it is a Graham “who” Turner. But it appears too many Villa managers cannot cope with us, the Villa fans expectations and SB is struggling with this issue.

          Sadly, this dies lead to us Vila fans looking at our expectations. We were greatly let down by our former chairman, who through mismanagement allowed large swathes of our great club to decay. Our new chairman cannot change this overnight and it will take years. I fear we may be in for a torrid time, like we had in the late 60s / early 70s.

          Is this view held be others?

          1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 8:40 pm . Reply

            I agree Sidforever who do we get to replace him. Oddly enough it wouldn’t surprise me if we beat Boro simply as they may start as equals favourites and will open up against us. But Bruce is not the man there is no way on the planet we will finish top 6 this season at best about the same as last season. Terry is a huge liability yet he is undroppable as prob written into his contract. Taking captaincy of Cheshire who did nothing wrong was a piss poor piece of management and Chesters confidence seems to have gone since Terry has come. Odomah is another waste of space. How can you play Elmo and Odomah in the same game in virtually the same positions. I assume Odomah has also got a clause in contract he can’t be dropped either. Are Elmo and Odomah an improvement on Adomah? Definitely not. Whelan is another useless spare part. Bruce has done well with Johnstone but he’s not our player and will be bk at Utd in due course. Snodgrass looks a decent buy tbf. But getting Terry and selling Baker for example is a sign of a manager who dosnt know what he’s doing though it called be a Dr X decision. The midfield is pathetic there is no balance, no leadership, no cohesion it’s a mess.

  7. VillaAwayInDiv3
    VillaAwayInDiv3 September 9, 2017 at 4:52 pm . Reply

    Johnstone our man of match BUT takes more time than Burridge over goal kicks…hello we need a goal.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 5:01 pm . Reply

      Johnstone and Snodgrass were only positives. Rest of the team are useless. Bruce has to go no ifs buts or maybes enough enough

  8. DSVilla
    DSVilla September 9, 2017 at 5:00 pm . Reply

    Garbage. I would like someone to tell me why Bruce should keep his job. I can’t see it.

    1. Villain1
      Villain1 September 9, 2017 at 5:11 pm . Reply

      There isn’t a single reason to keep Bruce, problem is Dr Tony is badly advised and listens too much to Wyness and co who are dinosaurs just like Bruce.

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 5:36 pm . Reply

        Why are our owners badly advised. Lerner was as well

  9. Villain1
    Villain1 September 9, 2017 at 5:10 pm . Reply

    Well that was painful. Yet again we play deep and with caution but its no surprise. We are exactly the team we were last season, frustrating draws at home with the odd flukey win and utterly hopeless away. There has been no progress in the last 10-12 months, none at all.
    Bruce and the coaching staff really are the worst tacticians we’ve ever seen at the club and the more the inevitable sacking is delayed, the more the club and its supporters will suffer. Dr Tony is going down way in my estimations with his inability to act over this farcical situation

  10. Dave.C
    Dave.C September 9, 2017 at 5:19 pm . Reply

    There was one top manager out there today, step forward Dean Smith, he’ll get Brentford much further up the table. Then again I am biased with him being an ex Hereford player!

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 5:35 pm . Reply

      We should of got Rowett last year. Bruce should surely do the decent thing and go

      1. Villain1
        Villain1 September 9, 2017 at 5:41 pm . Reply

        There were a lot of missed opportunities oohah, David Wagner being the most blaring one. The board didnt even approach him because Wyness was fixated on Bruce’s “championship experience”. As much as I want Bruce out, Wyness needs to go with him. All this BS about a new 60k stadium is nonsense, if we can’t even barely muster a shot at home to Brentford.

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 9, 2017 at 8:31 pm . Reply

          Agree Villain1. Even Rowett would of been a decent choice. Bruce is well past his sell by date not because of his age but his thinking

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