Aston Villa 0-2 West Ham (All Goals) 08… by ourmatch
Oh dear!
This, to me is quite simply a disastrous result.
In the predictions thread, I thought West Ham would stifle the midfield and we’d struggle to break them down.
That was certainly the case in the first half, where the truth is West Ham were the better side.
West Ham, a side that I’ve said on here, are very poor.
So how much does it hurt for me to say we never had a shot on goal in that half?
A lot. So much so that I’m not even going to mention it anymore.
Onto the second half then and straight away, it seemed like we were asleep.
Downing did well to beat Bertrand and it was all too easy for Nolan to score. Just slack.
And within a couple of minutes or so Delph was caught messing with the ball and Nolan scored again. Even slacker.
And then, on came Albrighton, who within 20 seconds had put in a cracking cross, which was better than anything we’d seen in the whole first half.
And the game turned on it’s head.
Benteke, who hadn’t got a sniff was now getting loads of headers, albeit he failed to hit the net and the side looked instantly revitalised.
Why Albrighton doesn’t start is beyond me.
In short, we battered West Ham, but they went a proper 5 at the back and you just knew we wouldn’t get two goals.
The truth is, I don’t really want to talk much about this game, as losing like we did has really got to me today.
I suppose you could say this is what you get when you have a young side, but I’m just glad I didn’t have to pay to watch it.
And where we were a so called safe in 10th, 5 points above relegation, we’re now 11th, 4 points above relegation.
Still think we’re comfortable?
Because I don’t.
Moan of the day?
Even Bertrand can’t take a legal throw-in.
Comments
136 responses to “Villa 0 – 2 West Ham; disastrous 3 mins, but not good enough”
Lambert would have seen the Hammers at Chelsea so he knew what to expect. He also should know that Agbonlahor is likely to be useless first game back from injury because he always is. In fact Gabby barely touched the ball after 30 minutes. So why not start him on the bench?
As for Delph, words nearly fail me. The number of bad choices he makes of what to do with the ball should see him out of any premiership side. The caught in possession today was typical. I don’t think he can be taught now not to be so effin arrogant about his own ability, but it would help if he was immediately substituted after a gaffe like that. Albrighton apart the approach play was predictable and clueless.
Finally will our misfiring players watch in-form strikers taking aim at goal. Do they try to clip it in off the post? No they are more likely to blast it straight at the middle of the goal knowing the yard by which they miss the spot will take it past the keeper. Villa aim just inside the post and miss the goal.
Ian you are absolutely right. The games irrelevant the only conversation we all should be having is how to get rid of Lerner. I don’t agree Lerner is here for a long time. If supporters stop financing him and make it clear we will not attend games Lerner will I believe GO. Lerner out
Ted, it isn’t going to happen mate. The fans are quite simply not up to forcing Lerner out.
And tbh, it’s boring me.
If it’s boring you then delete the comment. It’s what normally happens.
So what would you change then ?
Nothing….Badger loves you just the way you are.
The question is what can you change Ian.
Me, where I want to take my grandkids to every home game I can, I pick them, so we might see something decent.
Today was never going to be one of those under this manager.
But what’s the option?
Just give up 100%?
Fans have two choices go or not …
Noticed one thing over the past few games, the total apathy after games, that is what Lerner plays on.
I’d change the manager owner and team in an ideal world but unfortunately that ain’t going to happen. Lamberk Shoukd do the honourable thing and resign and if he signs that contract he should be hounded out the club. Complete piss take
It just isn’t going to happen mate.
Lambert’s up for a wage rise; Lerner hasn’t a clue, neither does fatty.
Everyone is happy.
Except those that really matter 🙁
Just hope tge Lerner and lamberk apologists boycott the club next season and don’t get suckered into wasting their hard earned on STs next month. It’s amazing how the club always seem to talking to the fans when they want to sell STs and the rest of the season they don’t give a fuck. The club will go on the charm offensive then we will be linked with a couple of £15m attacking midfielders who wev got fuck all of getting. The Benteke will be off and pl will still only have £10m to spend. The. It will be the usual pr bullshit spun out by puppet Kendrick that the club were on the verge of signing Messi I min before the window closed. Sane old bullshit every year and 36,000 mugs fall for it pathetic
Mate we both know he will sign as he knows that not if but when he gets the sack he will never get another job in the premiership.So will need a big payoff to tide him over as he will be on Jobseekers for a very long time.
In that case sack him and pay him off get in pochetino. Lerner will lose more than a few mill if we go down and the money Lerner’s saved and got of sky means sacking him shouldn’t break the bank
His own continence should tell him he’s lost it, time to admit he’s unable to take the club to the standards of the name of Aston Villa. he’s got to go, a parks manager could do better in a local team.
It’s pointless adding to any debate on here. Unless you agree with the owners or the owners boyfriends your opinion gets deleted. Really don’t see the point if having a website called “news and views” if people can’t give there views unless they’re agreeing with the owners or owners boyfriend.
Oh, it’s you again “freedomofspeech”.
How many times do you need to be told to stop slating and just add to the debate?
What a knob you are, you troll.
Both IPs barred and you’ll get bored before me, I assure you.
I’d happily add to the debate but deem it worthless as any comments that you don’t agree with you delete, so what’s the point? You should consider changing the sites name to Badgers views, as there the only ones that you’ll accept to be worthy.
Ha ha ha you then call me a knob and a troll yet if you’re called anything again it’s deleted. What a spoilt little twat you are. 🙂
Oi wanker fuck off with your pureile comments.
Yet still you’re here………..
What a load of bollocks, I haven’t deleted anything for months (except my own fuck ups) and only ban total idiots.
Congratulations, I think you’re no 3 in the time I’ve owned the site.
If you feel you can add to the debate without just slating the owners or the site, feel free to contact us and we’ll sort it.
We’re pretty fair, on the whole and will consider it.
Hopefully, the dickhead is gone and the vast majority will realise that contrary views to ours are very welcome, as long as they’re talking about the club or the team.
Hopefully you can see the sort of comments he was making and they added nothing, imo.
Thoroughly pissed off now, after that shower of shit I watched today, combined with a troll that I’d given every chance to, but there you go 🙁
Ian, one thing I did notice today was that the “boos” seemed louder.
Not loud enough IMO chants of lambert and lerner out Shoukd be the order of the day now
Foul throws at this level?! Come on!!
Badger it won’t be long til the boo’s become verbal,i’d put contract talks on ice.ps chill mate fuck that wanker.
If I was Lerner I’d put contract talks on hold until the summer the timing at the moment couldn’t be worse
Contract talks are unbelieveable to me and I feel a post coming on.
I’ll leave it for now though. Maybe tomorrow, when i’ve thought about it more.
I think the contract talks are another great example of how the club is so far removed from reality…. hmmmm I thinks this smells of Faulkner !
Just a thought would fatty do that, give Lambert a 3 year contract and not foresee a sacking in this coming year if we go down?.
Sadly, Yes Bill, imo.
While I can see fatty’s pov, just leave it until the end of the season at least.
It’d be just like us to be relegated just after giving him a new contract, ffs.
Clueless, imo.
And we think Newcastle are a joke club?????
Badger thinking about it how many times have we done that? and to think it lowers the chances of quality buys for the club, to me the infrastructure is bent, no wonder
Agreed Badger, Fatty is that clueless nothing would surprise me… Just look at his managerial fuck ups to date and we can’t just blame MON for the financial mess we got ourselves in… Why he is still in a job amazes me !
There might be a clause that we can sack him if we go down.
nah ooh ahh, that would be too intelligent for us, they will include a bonus to bring us back up though
Tbh I think going down is prob better than this crap for the future years. And to be honest out team would struggle to get into the top ten in championship.
Don’t think we’ll go down still… 3 poorer clubs than us somehow… Though Lambert should’ve been gone a year ago.
Agree Andrew he’s over stayed his welcome time to go.
Today’s summary is simple. Counter attack setup does not work against defensive sides. This team v Pool, City, Gooners, Soton, Chelsea etc do well as they come at us. Today was a diff game and proved a simple 442 is the way to go. Same goes for Cardiff Tuesday. Learn that lesson Lambert or the boys will be out with their Pitchfork’s!!!
Helenius Lambert won’t learn from today, he never does, far too stubborn….
Lerner is sitting in his pants in the US, receiving all his news from Fatty Faulkner who aint got a clue all Randy sees is our position in the league, sky money, gate receipts and merchandise monies…. If he knows fuck all about “soccer” and is getting his advice from someone (fatty) who knows fuck all about “soccer” we haven’t got a chance……I would like Faulkner to leave before the other two, as he must responsible for 80% of the fuck ups this club has made.. !
Lerner has lost interest, Lambert is clueless, Faulkener couldnt run a piss up in a brewery and half of our players arent Premier League standard. I think that about sums it up.
Hi Ya Bill Helinius the boys will be out with the pitchforks.Have a better idea put Lambert in the stocks on Church Hill Coleshill rotten eggs tomatoes mixed in with some cow shit.
We battered them for the final 40 mins, don’t understand why we don’t start with the intensity we finished with. If we did, alot of sides wouldn’t know what hit em, a bit like the gooners today.
We only ‘battered them’ because they sat back and defended their two goal lead in the same manner we do most matches. I agree we should have scored though and Albrighton has to start.
I agree rawlie they sat back and also being 2 nil down its easy 2 play then, u av nothing 2 lose
i held off commenting straight after the match 2 calm myself down, wot can i say thats not already been said.
i believe formation was wrong , no width ,tempo, or even a plan 2 break down a confident hammers side.
lambert in my mind is 2 blame cos after the pool and derby win confidence was high strikers finally clicking. lambert then messed around with this, now a demoralizing home defeat 2 a poor side at home, leaves us stunned and needing 2 get a grip, as another very important game is days away.
lambert needs 2 understand strengths and weakness of our team, chopping and changing is all very well. but sometimes a settled team and formation is best. and our strengths is not center midfield or defensively. i believe our strength is attacking. we need 2 start playing this way ~ 44 2 back 2 basic 2 wingers supplying 2 strikers get the tempo rite from first whistle and go 4 the game. we are trying 2 play a way thats foreign 2 us 2 slow and negative
i better go back 2 the dark room . staying away from motd again
Spot on Nath.
Compare pool away with this game.
Different league, imo.
We went for pool, but tried to just hold our own today. WHY?
This has to be down to the manager.
And while I’ve tried for a very long while to be reasonable in my views, I suspect I’m going to blow soon.
We can give the top sides a game, but have no hope against the shit around or below us!
I’ve held my hands up on numerous occasions. I was one of the ans who wanted Lambert in. We got him and I was over the moon. So chuffed I found this blog so I could write about how bright our future was going to be. How I was wrong.
this whole thing turned sour Christmas year before last when we got pummled 8-0 by Chelski. Since then it’s gotten worse and worse, football wise, players bought wise and everything wise. Yes we played some good football under Lambert from time to time but never enough that we’re going to ever get anywhere under his management.
I lost the faith quite a while back now, how some fans are still buying into this regime is fucking criminal. I’m as much of a fan as the next guy, Villa through and through, to question that and say I’m negative when it’s clear to see we’ve become a second rate team is the worst thing of all from a fellow fan.
Spot on md8 the so called supporters who buy into this bollox are probably linked to the club in some way either that or they are complete fuckwits without a brain cell between them.
I think the majority of the still believers fall into the latter sadly mate
Nath pulled out last minute due to weather, mate I’d have gone apeshit under them cameras, streamed it that was bad enough, disgusting game and yes width is what we needed, I will refuse to watch shit again as long as he’s at the club. My neighbour next for who is a West Ham plonker came prancing out side my door, words was piss off.
I forgot, Cardiff will come here expecting a result on Tuesday.
That’s a joke in itself!
Thankfully it’s at Cardiff badger 🙂
Even worse! and I forgot that, but yes; I see your point in that we’re better away.
That’s also a joke.
You won’t win anything without a good home record and ours is worse than everyone’s, Fulham apart.
And their coach is apparently fave for the bullet next.
I’m glad we’re away Badger, but Cardiff is a difficult place to go to. They’ll be well up for it, I’m not confident at all mate.
MDN8, I’ve lost all faith in us beating anyone mate.
Even with the rollercoaster in mind, we’re just poor, imo.
I’ll reassess things and probably put another post up tomorrow 🙂
lol, think we all need bit of time to reflect but it’s been like that all season. I’ve tried to think positive and look at how we might be able improve but it’s useless. We’ve been lucky without playing well this season, the luck will (or has already) dry up. I’m worried for us this season, I really am.
Anyone see Warnocks free kick ffs
kin’ ‘ell what a balls up!
lambert got this one totally wrong imo in the 1st half I could see our tactic for stopping west ham scoring but failed to see wtf we were doing to try nd get a goalourselves, aside from a couple of outside the box efforts from delph and westwood there was absolutely nothing.(and tbf hammer should have scored at least once 1st half)
we start the 2nd half the same, we go 2-0 down with some shambolic defending(pls ron come back quick ffs!)and finally we bring on a winger(albrighton)and go 4-4-2 and we were way the better team, 2 off the woodwork and pinging crosses in all over the place, if bentekes foot was just an inch longer he’d have had two aswell.
so why the fuck did we show a team like west ham(with all due respect)so much respect on our own turf by the way we lined up at the start? we should have been at them from the get go. from the time we went 2-0 down we showed that we could’ve and should’ve won by a country mile.
we were waaay too defensively minded imo. like the arsenal game we didn’t start playing until the last 15 when we scored and from then on arsenal were trying to hang on and if you fancied any team to score it was us.
I think we need to play with a bit more freedom and bravado like we did last season at the run in as I don’t think we’ll go down so we can afford to at least ave a fuckin go from the off not wait until we’re 2-0 down to start playing, seen it too many times this season.
and no one will ever convince me that westwood is a PL player, he’s so make weight but he gets in every match, he’s this seasons bannon.
I said last season when thing s are tough KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid, never a truer word said in football, your capt is out and we know what happens when ron is away don’t we children? so we should go from that point with a simple flat back 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 coz everybody knows how to play this system, simples!
Agree nm.though we were only better when ma come on coz WH retreated into a defensive shell and sat back at 2.0 up. We also started trying to go forward when we had nothing to lose which is always easier. When u think they kept a clean sheet with Collins at the back it makes it even worse. Even with vlaar Wev still only kept one clean sheet in 11 games. Like u say if it wasn’t for those fluky wins we’d be down now.
Read it exactly the same NM. Lambert is turning into McLeish II. I can’t stand this safety first approach to games against ordinary opposition. Why wait until we are two goals behind before going on the offence? Smacks of fear and caution. He needs to grow a pair and have a go from the off. That’s what Liverpool did against Arsenal and blew them away. Granted they are way better than us but it was the positive approach that won them the game.
I’m really getting tired of this. What’s even worse like many others on here what happened is exactly what I expected.
We were outplayed at home by an under strength West Ham who cant pick up a point away from home! Our results this season are nothing short of shocking. Take away two lucky results (Man City and Saints) and we would be in the bottom 3, thrashed in the league cup and knocked out of the FA cup by a div one team!
Im starting to feel the same way now as I did when Mcleish was in charge.
That was shit.
Vaze worse than that, I cannot see anyone siding with Lambert from now on and there’s still some, to me like Markbn8 I said give him time but you can now see he’s no idea of working out tactical play, gets it wrong every game, the man been lucky by being employed by people that knew nothing of football, ie Faulkner, Lerner, we are dire.
Got to agree Bill, think we’ve had it, other teams are stepping up we will go into free fall now.
VTID it’s a crying shame that is come to this, once great club made to be a laughing stock, we should in future look for home grown management and not foreign people thats just in it for the money. We deserve better.
Morning Bill your last comment foreign does that mean if the jocks get full independance Lamberk will need a work permit to work for Villa if so i say give them independance then refuse him a work permit maybe the only way we can get rid of him.