It’s taken me a while to think of what to say here, as I actually think we did ok overall and for most of that game, it didn’t deserve us losing by two goals.
You could probably even go so far as to say we were the better side for the first half hour, with us doing what we do best in playing fast and furious, taking it to them and generally doing a pretty good job.
Benteke’s penalty decision was a bit soft, as there was no intent in my opinion, but yes, he’s brought him down so probably the correct decision.
The resulting penalty effort was reasonable, but Howard made an excellent save in a game that looked like it was going to be a battle of the goalies, not the Belgians.
Talking of which, when Benteke’s Pen was saved, I got a feeling it wasn’t going to be our day.
Lukaku’s goal was a bit unexpected by me, although I suspect a few of you might disagree. I thought we were holding our own and countering pretty well.
We were fading slowly though, just as I was expecting and the second goal just killed the game didn’t it?
I’m loathe to slate the defence, as we’d kept a decent Everton side restricted to few chances, but well, they were poor for the goal weren’t they?
Luna had a shocker and for me Baker did much better when he took over.
Again, I can’t really fault the team for effort, but again we just looked bereft of quality.
And I know we were playing a team on a roll and flying high, but the simple fact is we’ve now lost four out of five at home.
That’s not even relegation form.
We quite simply have to get it sorted out, as for some reason it’s just not working. Regardless of who you play, you should at least be expecting some draws.
Laugh of the day?
Tim Howard’s beard. Am I the only one who thought he had his head on upside-down?
It’s not funny though really, is it?
Comments
80 responses to “Villa 0- 2 Everton; Another home loss”
Badger, would really like to say something positive, but struggling at the moment, been a season ticket holder for many years, and at these prices what am getting………….heartache !!
Sick of going down villa park and loosing this has been going on since mon era .
Are we really expected to accept this relegation fight season in season out , surely we should be aiming for higher than this !
The fact is taking Benteke out of the equation the team/squad is made up of a load of players bought on the cheap who can’t compete week in week out , so frankly what’s the point because I’m sick to death of loosing , something has to change
Spot in Markham iv said for ages that there is no quality in the team whatsoever. Take out benteke and Guzan and what have got a load of dross basically.
Luna wasn’t on the pitch long enough to say he had a shocker Gabby and Andi Weiman on the other hand had 90 minutes to confirm how bad they were! Gabby has to be fast as he needs to recover after his first touch and Weiman is a headless chicken who has no idea of what is going on around him! They have scored one goal in 8 games between them! Open your eyes Lambert, they rarely deliver! Also, Delph is a one man midfield! Bacuna has to play in midfield, Lowton in at right back, Sylla in for Westwood, stick with Tonev and give Helenius a start. It can’t be much worse than today, at the very least we could watch players who can control the football without needing 5 touches!
Agree mate except Luna bit he was our worst player until he was taken of. And has been one of our worse players this season.
You turn up at VP, we lose. So glad I don’t have an ST any more, being back today just reminded of what an ambitionless and directionless club we are. Watching the Villa used to be a weekly highlight, now its just a chore, depressing viewing watching the same useless players making errors and yet another boring woeful manager.
LAMBERT OUT!!
Gabby has probably four or five good games a season people are desperate for him to be a legend but unless things change in 30 years time he will be remembered as a Villa stalwart and nothing else . The positive being you all know one day in the future he is destined to do something very very special
Yes, Joe Bennett then! Luna was getting pulled apart by Mirallas today, Townesend last week and Ben Arfa, (not done a tap since), murdered him when Newcastle came to town! Baker could play there, defensively good but he lacks anything going forward. Lambert compounded our problems today by switching Baker to left back, Everton let Baker have the freedom of the the left side knowing he would create nowt! Are there any other left backs available!
2 left backs signed by Lambert, one in Luna is a championship player and Bennett, well IMO he is one of the worst players ever to play in the top flight.
And people want to give Lambert more time- what so he can buy more Bennetts, KEA’s, Westwood’s, etc. Lambert Out, Lerner Out!
Fucking shite… I am sick to death of 6 hours travelling, spending a hundred quid every fortnight just to watch a club with absolutely NO ambition. The cutbacks, although neccesary, were too much, too quick. We are left, in the main, with a honest bunch of players, most of which would NOT be entertained by any other PL club. I dont blame Lambert, other than to say he must be yet another ‘yes man’ , employed solely to keep us up with a ‘pittance’ to spend in the transfer market. A yank by the name of Lerner is slowly, like a cancer destroying my love of this great club. I am sure, that there are many more fellow Villans who feel the same way! The worst thing for me is that Lerner never opens his fucking gob to explain how he is going to move us forward. His lack of communication borders on ignorance…..we deserve commnication at the very least…. He says fuck all, and like his sidekick Faulkner is simply not up to being at the helm of a great football club. Great clubs need football people from top to bottom and NOT people who do not realise how much we have been hurt in the last 4 years……does he even care anymore?..did he ever care?
Its time to call it a day Mr Randolph Lerner cos……
The Villa is OURS, the Villa is OURS, fuck off Lerner, the Villa is OURS
We will NOT be relegated, but that is NOWHERE NEAR good enoug for this great club
It’s sad Delph’s our best performing midfielder. It’s not that he really does anything special, but he tries hard, and sticks a foot in. That’s really about all he even does. No real technical ability, passing ability, shooting ability. But Westwood’s not your hard working player, not your long passing midfielder nor is he much of a free kick taker. I still think KEA’s good enough as a squad player and Sylla would be our best midfielder if he’s ever played. We need a whole need midfield.
Still like Luna, still think he’d be better if he had cover from a DM we don’t have, as Delph never moves out wide like most DM’s do. I don’t really trust playing Baker at LB, still hesitant to see our only 3 CB’s playing at one time. I’d honestly say fuck it and play Stevens at LB again.
And so thé Worm has started to turn and the penny at long last is droping with the faithfull. Lerner Out!
What a load of shit we have, Jay Dee don’t come on here no more with negative excuse, one player was on that pitch today playing football who, Vlaar, second to him was Cuzan, we have a manager that’s so bad in knowledge of the game its un believable, Benteke was poor, Weimann, poor, Westwood, poor should I carry on, he has played again players out of possison how can Benteke perform with no balls from the wing, Gabby was crap playing in a central roll, I’m fed up with people telling me give it time, Lambert is dire in football knowledge, basically a con man to the game, get rid now.
I hadnt even made a comment on this post…You haven’t got any right to tell me not to come on this site anymore for one plus if I want to have my own thoughts that differ from yours who the fuck are you to tell me otherwise (edited)
JD, I think you mis-read that slightly.
He wasn’t telling you not to come on anymore, but basically saying that game was hard to defend in a positive manner.
I’ve edited the one part of your comment as a) I don’t think you meant it and b) we’re all on the same side and I’d hate to see long time posters falling out with each other like that.
Apologies if you think I’m out of order mate.
As badger said Jay Dee not saying in a way for you not to come on the site, for you to stop making excuse of a crap side. They are rubbish full stop , don’t keep saying give them time ffs, its enough for anyone to take, Aston Villa are in a fight again to keep off that bottom spot, I watched today’s game with 8 Everton fans , they asked me what’s going on with the Villa? Great club no direction, what can I say to them? 215 games with each other, and we dish up that type of game.
This is getting a bit silly. Not even a goal scored in the last two at home.
Video of the goals added, if you can stand to watch them again.
I’ll try and add some better highlights later, as they become available.
Lerner out?
I’m minded to agree, but it isn’t going to happen, as we’re too much of a money spinner, as long as we keep surviving in the Prem.
Really don’t know what to say apart from Sunderland at home on the 30th November.
Surely we can win that one?
Badger… If not out at least he can open his fucking gob. The bloke is an ignorant twat who treats us like shit. He has NO excuse for that!
Totally agree and I said as much in response to one of your comments midweek.
The only good thing I can see is that we do have more winnable games coming up.
We really do need to start winning though, as we’re now only 2 points above the relegation zone.
No excuses, we just need points on the board sharpish before losing becomes a habit.
Here’s a stat for the lamberk fan club:
Lambert’s home form : W6 D5 L13 Points per game: 0.95
McLeish’s home form : W4 D7 L8 ; Points per game : 1.0
End of story, Lambert is shit and needs to be sacked ASAP.
Dan bang on and now please, he has no clue on what to do, disgusting.
If we are competing then we are improving.Everton are a good side but we did used to be just as good.It used to be us and Everton side by side neck and neck.We have had a bad few years it’s been a shame for all of us to watch our club drop.If we are in another relegation fight this season and the table looks to be splitting already then we can start to question Lamberts ability and Lerners dedication but until that time we have to wait and see…you will know by Xmas UTV
Jay dee… And we all know what happens to turkeys at xmas… And we could be well stuffed by then! (Apologies for insulting all you turkey lovers out there)…. Perhaps I should have said ‘headless chickens’!
jay Dee are you for real? Piss off had enough of people that cannot see no farther than their nose, people like you make it bad for others, that was not acceptable in anyone’s life, they are crap full stop except it for Christ sake, Lambert does not have a clue in football don’t comeback and say he did this he did that, he is inept of knowing running a football team, full stop.
You really have got your knickers in a twist haven’t you billy boy.Now I suggest that you calm down,find a nice comfy chair before you have a corenry.Listen we all see what’s going on at the Villa I go to the games and I see the home form is unacceptable.I didn’t even want Lambert wasn’t my choice but he is the manager so there’s nothing that a mumbling Los fanny can do about it.I choose not to let Lamberts losses get to me.Now go back and change your tampon….
Jay Dee read my other comment please, I don’t have any knickers in my wardrode not a transvestite, but what I do have is common scence , plus I see things far quicker than most, it seems that I can in your case, don’t fall out with me as I’m probably more wiser than you in life.
Bill could not agree more as you know i was against Lambert from the start same as Oohah but got to give Jay Dee some credit he is the only Lemming to still be following their leader.But never mind i will scrap him up off the pavement when along with the rest when they throw themselfes off the Rotunda mate.
I never wanted Lambert and I said so on here.But he is the manager of AVFC and until he is removed or he leaves I will support him and the team right or wrong.VTID
Argument and debate are fine, but please stop the insults, especially between long time posters.
We’re all a bit pissed off, but keep it civil please.
I’m proud of how we can have strong disagreements on here, but still keep it reasonably friendly and I’d like to see it stay like that.
Cheers lads.
I hadn’t even posted on this post and others are mentioning my name.I don’t come on here and slag people unless they slag me mate.And all because I have a different point of view I get told not to come on here ?
Bill’s explained what he meant above mate.
Let’s just leave it at that eh?
I’d hate to lose either of you, as you’re both basically positive posters who are just at different stages in turning their opinion around.
Badger I can take it , don’t worry it won’t go to far to get idiotic, just enjoying the moment, 🙂
We should pinch that Pottechino fella from down the south coast UTV.
but then again, probably wouldn’t trade in those beautiful sea views..
Why would he leave saints who are third in the table and have money to spend to manage are bunch of cheap useless dross.
sorry state of affairs at the Villa at the moment mate when you see Saints 3rd in the league with a bright young european manager, sitting comfortably and with more than likely cash in the bank for January, The honeymoon period is long gone with Lambert for me (if there ever was one). It is getting a bit ridiculous, how can you support a guy that has, according to Dans statistic of the year, a worse home record than the man who I shall not name. That’s a disgrace, I don’t get down to VP anymore but I’d be fuming to go along and watch us do fuck all in front of goal, and generally fuck all everywhere on the field (of late anyway). Benteke will be off in Jan, mark my works and then what do we do, suddenly bring in Helenius or Bowery or rely on Kozak??? I don’t even want to begin
Lambert out? Lerner out?
This is the depressing part for me.
Get rid of Lambert, we’ll only get another Mr average, as I don’t believe Lerner knows how to choose a manager. Although in fairness, I was in favour of Lambert coming when he did, the same as many fans.
I’m not convinced he’s a bad manager as such, but he had us playing some nice stuff at one stage, but now seems to have taken a pragmatic approach in his home tactics.
What the hell has happened to our fluid, one touch footy that was a joy to watch at times?
I suspect the job is too big for Lambert and he’s seriously feeling the pressure, myself.
As for Lerner, I don’t see him leaving anytime soon, so we’re stuck.
As long as he refuses to spend serious money (and I’m talking £50-60 mill) we’re doomed to more of the same.
“I suspect the job is too big for Lambert and he’s seriously feeling the pressure, ”
My thoughts exaclty Badger, I was in favour also and I think he is a decent manager but Villa is a big job, we’re a big club with big demands.
Spot on badger that’s the million dollar quest if lambert goes then what? No manager worth his salt is going to come unless like u say Lerner is prepared to spend £50 m or so. I just can’t see Lerner spending that sort of money whether he’s got it or not.
So are you saying we have to take it? Its time for fans to rebel, write into the media , write to the club, don’t buy, I looked today and could see corporate boxes empty, seats in the directors box empty, holte end spaces, Doug Ellis stand 3/4 full , surely it has to be saying something to the cub. Or are they thick.
Problem is bill that Lerner dosnt give a shit. He’s got his £90m sky money now do a couple of million less in fate receipts is neither here or there
Our next 2 games are West Ham away and Cardiff at home both winnable.We would be about 10 th UTV
Newcastle game and hull were winnable to so was today game. Should if got at least a point Ffs. West ham away is never easy and Cardiff at home will put 10 behind the ball knowing we create fuck all at home
Yes, I think they should be winnable too JD, but I’m nowhere near convinced.
I still don’t think our performance was that bad today; certainly the effort wasn’t.
In fairness, Everton are currently worth their fourth spot.
But we so lack any creativity, it’s shocking.
That’s the other problem Bill.
People aren’t as militant/reactionary as they used to be.
Imagine if AM had been appointed 40 years back?
There’d have been 40,000 down VP protesting, not just the few hundred that turned up.
Hence the vast majority of the fanbase we have left will still keep turning up.
And it’s not like income from the turnstiles is the major source of income anymore.
It’s daft really, because we struggle to fill the ground at the best of times.
Stay mediocre for years and you have to wonder what crowds we’ll be getting in 20-30 years time.
Kids don’t want to be associated with mediocrity and I know I’ve said it before a few times, but you only have to look at Brummy kids wearing the usual suspects shirts.
Badger123, that came about in the late 70s about fans no longer support the game in going through the stiles, them words was said to me by Steve Stride, but my reply was if you had an empty ground, would you not be concerned Steve, he had to admit it would cause panic not having support, so I still think you as a person that goes to the game still have a say as to what the club has to do. In our case our club that now is a yanks toy, we have to show we are not happy, its to late not to buy tickets because I believed in the change and got 4 seats(adults) now I see I was conned into believing them. Bagder today has put the cat amongst the pigeons, Villa are going nowhere with Lamdert and his camp.
Agree bill but every year 20,000 plus season ticket renewals fall for the same bullshit that next season will be better. Hence why are linked with decent £10m signings like wanyama etc who like u said at the time we will never sign and I got slated for it. It’s all a load of bollox to get st sales and when they’ve hit their target of 20k plus they start signing the dross shite we have now. Used to do it under ellis always at end if season we would be linked with a big name to sell season tickets. Can’t believe people can’t c thru it
Unfortunately Oohah I’m one of them idiots that bought, never again will I do that unless a massive change comes around, I cannot see us doing that this year,
Just watched game on motd I could cry how we missed out getting Barry. He was different class
West Ham Cardiff winnable don;t make me laugh when we can;t even score one goal none of this dross could score against a team of five year olds and anybody whom thinks we are going to win anymore games this season are as deluded as Lamberk and his Lemmings.