Ok, the truth is it’s a bit of a nothing post, just something aimed at reminding you that we are still actually here.
We’ve got the World Cup to talk about and it has indeed been brilliant up until now, the disgraceful Hondurans apart; but apart from Vlaar playing a blinder the other night (disregard what Oohah says, although that’s just my opinion), there’s nothing really going on at the Villa to talk about.
Even the papers are struggling to find anything of interest to comment on, which given their propensity for printing utter rubbish says it all.
So I thought I’d expand things a little bit, seeing as where I’m working, there’s a good mix of club supporters.
While the Wolves fan I speak to is understandably quite happy, he has been asking what’s going on at the Villa, the (spit) and the Baggies.
Even the Stokey I regularly chat footy with, has stopped trying to wind me up, as I think he’s realised this joke isn’t funny any more.
It’s a sad situation all round, isn’t it?
We appear to be stuck without an imminent buyer for the club, regardless of all the rumours and judging by the signings we’ve made up until now, we aren’t going to be buying any players that I want us to sign.
IE, mid twenties, up and coming and more importantly PROVEN, at some decent level. Far too expensive that, when we have an owner who’s looking to get money back in, let alone invest.
So all in all, more than depressing.
But then, just where we think things are bad, the (spit) are way worse off than us.
They’re signing players at levels even below them, on loan and it’s all doom and gloom.
The sadistic part of me thinks it’s quite funny, but when I put my sensible head back on, I just see the parallels.
We’re both seriously struggling.
And then there’s Albion’s latest appointment.
What’s that all about?
A manager who hasn’t managed since 2011 and failed abysmally in the lower leagues?
How does that even get him in the running for a Premier league club?
And on a rolling 12 month contract, at that?
It hardly inspires confidence, does it?
And we thought Lerner was bad!
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Watched the USA v Ghana match last night..
Bradley has kicked on after his brief spell with us.. he wasn’t spectacular for them last night but has been playing well for Club and Country..
Also Jermaine Jones who we were linked to ( albeit paper talk ) looked a decent player too.. someone who would improve our midfield..
there are bargains to be found at World Cup.. shame we have next to no money what so ever to manoeuvre..
Agreed Lionhart and as much as I find it difficult to say, the Yankee doodle dandees have come on leaps and bounds as a team. They look a decent side. That match was non stop start to finish and they ore than held there own against what the majority thought would be a comfortable Dana victory.
Alejandro Bedoya looks proper decent, plays at Nantes in France, someone we should be looking at to be honest, if Le Nouveaucastle don’t get there first. As you say, bargains a plenty.
Le Nouveaucastle..
LOL… 🙂
Diamond never suits Bradley, he was our worst midfielder for 70 minutes because he likes the space and to spray passes to his team, not these 3-4 yard passes because there’s 4 midfielders right next to each other. He’s simply so much better when it’s just him and Jones in midfield. I’d love him back, his time in Italy did wonders for him.
We were terrible for the most part last night, well you know, the usual, used to it mainly because it was a Lambert style of play, but the defense did quite well.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/ron-vlaar-quizzed-on-aston-villa-drink-culture-says-he-had-to-ign bit of an unusual comment here wonder how true and at what stage the drinking culture is at
Yeah I read that BB. Couldn’t make up my mind what it meant. The language suggests it may be a misinterpretation but its a bit worrying.
So apparently it’s been leaked we have Manure on the opening day of next season
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/leaked-villa-host-man-united-on-opening-day-chelsea-face-everton-liverpool-play-arsenal-its-spurs-v-leicester/
That rumours been going on past 2 days. We had these bull shit stories last year. Who gives a fuck about fixture list anyway we always play utd at home in dec have done for years.
Well that’s made you look somewhat stupid.
I did say wed have utd at home in dec we always do
Just saying it as I see it, fully absorbed in watching the world cup to notice anything else at the moment
Stoke away first game lol I did say lol
4th consecutive season our opener is away jeeze. That can’t be fair??? Where’s the thinking behind that??? 3 of the sky 4 in September ffs.have the fa got it in for us????
First 3 games are massive, 3 after, Liverpool, Arse, Chelski
With Manure on the opening day as you said it’s a pretty tough start.
lol, was just a rumour ticktock
Man city after the chelski game can’t wait
There the games we are likely to do ok in tbf
MON spouting bollox on itv the 2 other pundits totally disagree with him. Lol
Ooha he’s nowt but a proper GOBSHITE mate.
Exactly
i think they run the various fixtures through the computer until sky get the fixtures they want
I’m not to sure about that BB. doesn’t hide the fact that md8 chats constant shit.
lol
You seen the fixtures lads we be relegated by xmas if lambert still here
True mate. Have you watched vlaar making his usual clanger today. Very luck oz didn’t score from it. Must be great for him to play with Rvp, AR as eider etc instead of agbonlahor, wrimann and kae ffs. Hopefully he will be of to utd. Btw what a goal by Cahill
We were supposed to be relegated every season for 4 seasons now by Christmas… So I highly doubt we’ll again be relegated by Christmas.
Agreed Andrew. Seems Villa1996 may be oohahpaulmcgraths secret shoe shiner, they’re certainly on the same wavelength.
I feel a bit of jealousy coming on
Me and Ohh Ah are realistic Andy we don’t fall for the same bullshit from Lerner year in year out villa will go down its on the cards
Oh, alright. Realistic. Claiming we’ll be relegated every summer makes you realistic. Laughable at best.
Come on Andrew wev not been far of for past few seasons eventually it will happen and luck will run out
No such thing as luck but if that’s what you need to believe to have a clueless negative view on everything, no one’s gonna stop you.
So true villa 1996 eventually it will catch up with us. Lerner bs is still fooling fans I’m still not convinced we are really up for sale officially we but unofficially we are not. Makes sense means Lerner can rape the club on the cheap for another season and keep lamberk in the process. Genius
I have to agree with you there villa 1996, your bullshit is all your own!
I don’t get you Oohah.
Why would Vlaar be off to Utd, if he’s as shit as you make out?
Funny thing is, is out of every Dutch CB, Vlaar’s the least likely. I mean Van Gaal likes a young player still, yes Vlaar’s been very good, but we have a very good chance of keeping him, unless Atletico sell Miranda/Godin and decide Vlaar’s worthy of La Liga champions. Maybe Spurs, but other than that, I have no fear of losing him no matter how good he plays.
I think send-dross was bought as his replacement. One useless twat for another makes sense
Hahahahaha, oh. Yes, Senderos to replace Vlaar, makes sense. Not that Lambert wanted experience, we’re replacing Vlaar.
No, you never make sense.
Because of van gaal old pals act. He would be ok as a squad player on the cheap for them. I’m not saying he’s shit necessarily I’m saying he’s very average
And that just proves how much you know. “Very average”… Lol. Yes, so average.
so you think vlaar is above average
Of course he is. You and I are nearer average than Vlaar. Vlaar may not be the best in the world but he is an excellent defender. To argue otherwise is ludicrous. As for “Van Gaal would want Vlaar because of old pals act” that is even worse. Oh yes, top manager puts his reputation on the line at one of the world’s biggest clubs and signs average players just because they’re mates.
I don’t mind that you are negative. You have a perfect right to be given the demise of the club. At least make sense though.
I just don’t rate vlaar he does play ok at times but you just know he’s going to drop a bollock at some point just like dunne
Thats a problem with being a defender. Make a mistake and concede a goal or at least a chance. Name me a defender who doesn’t. Cahill dropped a clanger last night. Is he crap?
That’s not the point. Yes every defender makes a mistake even kompany, Cahill, Terry etc. The difference is our defenders make unforced errors and make mistakes more regularly than most other defenders
Bloody hell, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in September and the same three in the same order in January?
That’s a bit of a scary fixture list, if you ask me.
I hope we’re in a decent position come April, as we might have the stuffing totally knocked out of us in that month.
Don’t forget city and Everton. Makes no difference we have to play all teams at some point and we always seem to get at least one or two bonus wins v these teams as we can play them on the counter home and away
Chile looking so impressive again. what I would give to have medel bossing our midfield next year . Proper leader.
Medel would be amazing. He’s even proving to be incredible at CB tonight.
I’d want their manager too, he just allows them to play, they’re showing some incredible passion and they don’t look like stopping.
Thats a tad naive Andrew, RW
scilachii, the various Dioufs from Senegal etc etc, playing for national pride in a world cup in in your native continent or climate is not a definitive guide to buying a player.
Bossing our midfield? like he bossed it for Cardiff all season before they got relegated?
no thanks .. I seen him play 3 times in the Prem last season, one of those was against villa, and sorry nope .. he is the typical angry south american “enforcer” .. undisciplined tactically and in the tackle, as likely to get sent off than save a game.
He also just ill-equipped for the premiership pace. he is just not a premier league player.
He cost Cardiff 11m all he enforced is the notion that he is far from amazing.
I’ll admit I didn’t watch him more than twice at Cardiff, and he was okay at best, but I watched him a lot at Sevilla and was a big fan of his. I try not to judge big signings at failing clubs too heavily when they get relegated because the rest of his team bar their goal keeper was AWFUL and I’d be willing to get him the chance at Villa Park. I mean we have a lot of undisciplined midfielders, in fact all of them are, so why not get someone better than what we have?
Plus, they beat Spain and Australia (who the latter have impressed everyone) and did very well, bar beating Cahill in the air, which no one does anyways. So it wasn’t some random Diouf’s of Senegal. And he’ll no doubt play well against the Netherlands.
Sounds about the right standard for us then
Surely naïve is writing off a player who has just starred in the world cup and shut out Spain playing out of position. And your judgement is based on 3 games – were you really watching him that closely? – and by stereotyping him based on nationality and blaming him for Cardiff’s relegation.
Likely to get sent off? 0 Reds last year, despite his reputation, and less yellows than at least 5 Villa players,
Most Cardiff fans I know rate Medel, Marshall and Caulker as the only reason they weren’t relegated months earlier – Cardiff went down due to a crack pot owner who sacked a good manager, appointed a YTS as head of scouting, brought in an untried manager and a dozen new players.
Over priced at £11m definitely, but will fetch about the same again and will end up leaving for a much bigger club than Cardiff – and Villa sadly.
Wev got lambert for another year at least so dream on
are we sold yet
cant wait 4 the new campaign 🙂
I’m hearing by August 1st…. Arison’s still the strongest linked.
It’d be amazing if Arison was the new owner.. although I feel he wouldn’t be completely focused on the Villa with his current venture in sports..
Same was said about Liverpool’s new owner. I think he’d work well for Villa. Was told we won’t sign anyone till the World Cup’s over, and a few of our targets are playing there now so hell, we might even have money before the sale.
Yep I can see Messi and Ronaldo flying over my house en route to VP on a flying pig!!
Typical stupid response I’d expect from you.
Yawn no chance we are unofficially not up for sale Andrew. It’s all bs to sell STs and run the club on a shoestring for another year without the fans hassling him or lamberk genius
Complete garbage as per usual.
why is it garbage because i dont agree with you!!
Now lets think about this LOGICALLY. Randy Lerner comes out and claims we’re up for sale. So what you claim he officially did, is not put us up for sale, and in fact is trying to get people to buy season tickets, despite most people I’ve talked too who weren’t going too before he put it up for sale, said they still won’t buy one until it’s officially sold. So what you’re claiming is, the what, 1000 at most season tickets sold because he “put it up for sale” is really the only reason he put us up for sale? Season tickets that pay for absolutely notta anymore? Maybe pay for a couple office people’s salary AT MOST that 1000 season tickets, at most, but probably not. He’s going to LIE to the fans, for a few season tickets? If that actually makes sense to you… Then I bloody quit reading what you type.
I take your point but dont forget it will help merchandise sales and also they still want fans at vp supporting the team empty seats is depressing. I think we will still end up selling 20,000 or so Sts which is about normal and still average 36,000 imo. Which is a lot more fans than the club deserve.
Yes Man Utd in Dec and Swans around Xmas break……..no such thing as crap fixtures as its just 20 teams playing each other twice…..not us having to play the top 4 about 9 times……
Dont eye any defenders from the world cup as they are all crap….thats why the matches are generally good to watch….some crap shooting as well…lol
Spain looked as likely to score tonight as we did at West Ham in the opener the other year…..talk about no plan B….no passion or guile …all they did was pass pass pass.
So true most teams in wc don’t defend well but are good going fwd. much better for the neutral. Even England looked good going fwd. good job mourinho isn’t an international manager he would park the bus even if they were 5 nil up with 10 secs left!
You certainly know how to wind them up Oohah, I’m not a Lambert fan but I think he knows now he has to Change the way he’s been thinking of late, hard games to start and his jobs on the line. Time will tell two windows to go , and none of us knows what the hells going on, ho happy days.
lol 🙂
i once thought like oohah my pint pots always half empty 🙁 ,lerner does want out and will sell, keeping villa ticking over to collect tv sound ideal, cos he can lower the blow on his own loses and the guys stands 2 lose a fortune.but i believe the guy does care, hes just has made bad decisions,anybody makes a decent offer with good intentions and he’ll be well rid of us.
i hope the 1st of august is correct cos we don’t want the uncertainty to drag on through our new campaign
Agree Nath he wins either way if he can keep us up on the cheap and sell next year that suits him fine. Though he has to be careful if we go down then he will lose money big time. I actually think next season will be a carbon copy of this one so pointless even bothering
Test.
For you Oohah, pigs might fly. 🙂
Ha ha good one Bill. Prediction for tonight I say 3.1 or 3.0 to England. Should be a formality
I’ll go for that Oohah, I’m in for 3 -1 England, just seeing what Rooney going to do he’s been shit for a while would you say.?
What a prat of an England manager we have, playing 3 glory hunters up front a man out of form, two backs that make idiotic mistakes, and tells us they know what they have to do, he’s as bad as Lambert. Knows sod all about the game. I said 3 -1 England, changed my mind 3-1 Uruquay.
We will still win they can’t keep this up
Rooney and Gerrard shit. Played the game way too slow and deserve to go out, imo.
Totally bad tactics.
Spot on Badger you see it so do I , a joke of a team.
Twice Gerrard has cost his team fuckin useless and here’s my whinging about vlaar being error prone!! I take it all back
As I said, Uruguay were gonna win and Suarez was gonna be big for them.
Well I really thought we’d do it Andrew and were hot favourites. Fair play to Suarez he was the difference without him I think we would of won
Probably would’ve. Can’t say England were hot favorites, but favorites nonetheless. I’m gonna laugh if Italy and Costa Rica draw tomorrow. Italy winning will be huge, though Costa Rica’s goal difference would be a problem for England, as will Uruguay going full steam ahead v Italy.
Honestly can’t see England staying in it anymore.
What are the odds on us finishing in top 2 now Andrew?
“I’m just looking now on the net, if I were to pop in a cheeky buck on England going through, I’d be paid back 250 times back.”
Friend posted this on another forum for a game, so really, really low.
So we are 250/1 against qualifying?
I know Skybet has it at 5/1, so I honestly think he was a bit off. Italy’s I believe 1/11, Costa Rica are 5/6 and Uruguay are 1/1
Blimey odds well stacked against us. I think we can beat costa and more than likely Italy will beat both teams imo
What a joke
We took it to Italy and did well.
So why go back to playing our usual rubbish, where our defence is constantly caught out?
Gerrard is finished and how many times did Rooney fall over/slip?
Totally disgusted with Hodgson, who I thought might have more balls.
It seems we might still be able to qualify, after losing two.
That’s so bent, it’s a joke, imo.
My argument is that we have forwards that are glory hunters and don’t bring other players into the game, Sterling is two in experience a player to be considered as a first pick, I want to win on my own player, Welbeck, Sturidge , all players that cannot pass when they should, as for our Rooney he’s on a bad patch, Yes Gerrard had his day so why are we running with has been, tells me we are being conned with talk like the player’s know what they have to do, and the don’t. That to me was a disgrace of an England team.
You have to remember the advertisers/sponsers put those 2 jokers in their ads etc so they have to play dosnt matter who’s manager we always pick the sky 4 players who have won us precisely nothing
Worst England side since 1958 roy should be sacked bring back hoddle
No point in sacking Roy he picked the players most of us and media wanted. His only mistake was not taking cole
Joe, Carlton or Old King?
Ps also u can’t legislate for Gerrard making 2 clangers
Actually gonna agree with Oohah, not English and not a fan, but Hodgson has little to nothing to answer for. Bar maybe subbing Rooney off far earlier or pushing him central against Italy as he couldn’t handle two quick players in Candreva and Darmian who were never even tested defensively, he picked England’s best players and I don’t think any manager would’ve done any different or better. Maybe not bring Lampard and bringing someone else, but the thing England needs is either 1. To play like Liverpool and press, press, press really hard when they lose the ball, which neither Gerrard nor Henderson did and they were largely at fault for England being awful, or two, ask every single EPL manager to try and develop an actual English DM. A real DM, a De Jong DM with a little better passing. Maybe like an Inler or Behrami type, Vidal, De Rossi, something similar. Probably won’t be as good, but they need one as that defense is good enough maybe bar Johnson, but they had NO cover whatsoever.
And honestly, he made England far more entertaining than any manager in the past decade.
Agree going forward we look a lot better to be fair.
Agreed. And as I see Gerrard and Lampard retiring from international duty after the World Cup, be interesting to see who they bring in their place. I mean England have like 4 DM’s, Barry (aging but I’d have him back at Villa instantly), Noble, Parker (aging) and Cork who I wouldn’t mind at Villa, if he could replicate his Southampton form, but midfield could be a worry for England unless the likes of Barkley, U-25 English midfielders don’t look promising, other than Chalobah. Neither do CB’s too be fair. The likes of Terry, Ferdinand, Carragher, even Lescott are above what England are producing right now, maybe bar Cahill. I mean England’s future CB partnership could be Smalling-Jones, although I see it as Jones-Stones, but they have no depth there either.
And as sad as it makes me, Cahill has been England’s best player this World Cup. He’s learned a hell of a lot from Terry and he’s become one of the best CB’s in the EPL.
Agreed great decision by MON to sell him and keep zat shite!! You couldn’t make it up
One of the many jokes of MON.
MON is a joke makes you wonder about certain alleged stories about him
He’s doing no better for Ireland than anyone else did either.
True he did worse than Bruce at Sunderland to. Complete myth he ruined our one and only change of cracking top 4. Could be another 30-40 years at least before we get a chance again
Cahill has been tremendous but he was caught out by that second goal for Uruguay. Selling him was one of many mistakes MON made. Just goes to show that even good players make mistakes – Like Vlaar for instance.
As for England, i have been pretty relaxed watching them as I didn’t expect us to get out of the group. It’s hard to see us beating Costa Rica. The team has performed well in bits, but Sturridge is a legend in his own mind. Not a team player IMHO. Plenty of talent but is too selfish and keeps making the wrong decisions. We lack a bit of real quality, and certainly don’t have anyone “world class”.
Agree about Sturridge thought he did well v Italy but was awful at times yesterday. Though to be fair you and me would look good if we had Suarez playing alongside us!
No he would look even better because we would be so bad!
Im not sure what is more depressing, the thought of england going out in the first round or having to start thinking about Villa again!
Both not looking fwd to next season one bit
Excited by next season, but then I personally think we’ll get taken over, though I don’t think we’ll spend too much in the summer, Lambert will be given till January and we’ll see then. Or maybe that’s my dream.
That’s why I can’t get excited knowing that lambert will still be here. He plays awful football just as bad as mcleish yet everyone says give him a chance etc whereas mcleish could of win the league and we would of been on his bk
I agree, I dislike Lambert too, but I still am excited. Unfortunately he will stay till at least January.
Jefferson rumours out and about again and now he’s saying no renewal on his contract Leeds also mentioned utv
Not looked here all week and reading that oohah now thinks Lerner falsely putting the club up for sale is a huge ploy to sell season tickets……I’m rolling around laughing here….Funniest fan site ever.
On another note, Jefferson rumour back out as apparently we’ve told Bendtner £14k PW or F-Off …… And of course he thinks he’s worth £400k pw…!!!….So goodbye Nicklas.
No it’s not just to sell STs it’s so he can run the club on a shoestring for yet another and get away with it. Get ur facts straight
That’s not a fact though, that’s an opinion.
Well first of all send dross couldn’t start in a poor Swiss defence. He comes on at 0.0 and it’s now 2.0. He even look like Ron vlaar
He wasn’t at fault for the 2-0, Djourou was, their RB was, he wasn’t. He was hardly at fault for any of the goals tonight, Djourou was at fault for every goal, as was their pitiful goal keeper.
He was for their 4th he looked totally lost and the fact he wasn’t first choice for a defence as shit as that says it all. Dross by name, dross by nature
Other than their 4th goal, but much like our problem, their midfield got overran with said ease. Although that is why Napoli want rid of all 3 of Behrami, Inler and Dzemaili as they’re not near top class. Our midfield’s even worse.
So he will fit in nicely with us another shite player to add to the shite we already have. My mate an arsenal st holder still can’t believe we signed arsenal celebrated when they sold hi,m
And I have an Arsenal mate that thought he was quite good on his day, and if his mentality’s correct, he’ll do very well for us, but if he has another break down like after the game v Drogba, we could be in trouble. But then I don’t think he’s first choice and it’ll be Vlaar and Okore.
Being first choice doesn’t mean a lot. They picked Djourou to be first choice, and he’s worse than Senderos. That simply means the manager has his own favorites. Hell, Schar is the best Swiss CB going (and one I’d love at Villa) and he wasn’t even picked, which is garbage.
senderos is shite swiss defence has let in 3 bloody goals since hes beeen onthe field and he’s gonna be the stronghold of our defence. vlaar will probably be off to pastures new because villa are a selling club. so we will have senderos clarke baker and an unroven okore brilliant stuff to look forward to. we will be bottom of the table after 6 weeks of the new season with 0 points
Spot on send putting the dross back to villa
the dross never left pal
i repeat the question who has villa sold that hasn’t asked to leave
albrighton because were poor and the rest are unsellable because they cant kick a football properly in the right direction vlaar will go because hes on the big stage and looking okay there will be buyers and well sell him
Bowery, Albrighton. Just because a player asks to leave dosnt mean we have to let them esp if under contract
When you’re offered big money though and they push for the move, you either tell them no and they have a giant hissy fit, start crying and causing problems, or you sell them off.
Fine then let them rot in the reserves especially in World Cup year when they need to be playing.
No business man’s gonna do that… Nor should they, if they don’t wanna be here, you sell them. Simple as that.
Just when it seems there might be a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel..
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-no-buyer-place-7302050?
It’s what we all new anyway
Man oh man, it’s June 20th, we haven’t had an official bid (although I’ve heard differently, and it got turned away but then the media knows very little if anything) and we’re already screwed. Never knew the media was be all end all. There’s only person I’ll ever believe on news, and that’s IncogAVFC, not the BirminghamMail.
You really do come across as a complete know-all. All this “I’ve heard differently” crap.
Well Andrew IncogAVFC is after tweeting that there is no sale in sight, pretty much agrees with the Birmingham Mail..
Ah, okay. I personally don’t have him followed on twitter as I don’t have twitter, so didn’t know, facebook pages tend to post his tweets and finally got a friend to follow him but he didn’t mention that yet.
Try this http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-takeover-talks-two-3739786?