This was another game that I didn’t get to watch because of work, so I can’t comment on the match, but by the sounds of it, it was probably a good one to miss.
Having had a very quick glance around, it seems that the defensive part of the side had a total shocker and this wasn’t helped by some very gung-ho tactics that didn’t get changed, at least in the first half.
I had a quick look for the score after about twenty minutes of the game and was stunned to see that we’d conceded a hat-trick in just three minutes. At any level you care to mention, that is absolutely awful and I find myself wondering what on earth happened?
Roll on Match of the day.
Still, with me not having seen the game, I’m not in a position to comment, so I won’t.
Hence this one is about the positive side of things.
While it’s easy to rant and rave after a bad performance, we have to bear in mind that the players who lost today have done pretty well over the last few weeks.
Whether today was a result of a side that was over-confident, I really can’t say, but I was talking to a workmate earlier today and his opinion was that Southampton were about due to give someone a thrashing. He certainly called that one right.
So what’s the good news?
As we all know we’re safe, which at the moment is the main thing.
And Benteke scored again, albeit an absolute token gesture goal. It could have been worse, in that we might have got none at all, is the point. I suspect I’m perhaps clutching at straws there, to be honest.
Ok, it’s scant consolation and doesn’t bode particularly well for the run-up to the cup final, especially when we face a tough Burnley side, who although relegated, will not lay down and die for us.
But Sherwood said we’d win some and lose some. The problem is I didn’t see a 6-1 whupping being part of that.
While today is very disappointing, there may be something good to come out of it.
There’s no way we will be complacent against Arsenal in the final, after this result.
Oohah…has already done this post mate!
Thanks for your astute observation Langy just where would we be without you, you’re (remember that it’s you’re not your, ok mate) a f##king diamond.
Yes, we crossed.
But at least mine is somewhat positive 🙂
You should of held bk till later
I always post first chance I get Oohah and didn’t realise you’d posted.
Never mind, two very different viewpoints.
How can you be positive when we lose 6.1. That’s a disgraceful performance how can u defend that!!
Result means nothing, we’re safe.
sorry the result does matter . have you never heard of pride . im embarrassed by the team today and so should all villa fans . 6 fucking 1 to southampton is a joke . surviving relegation year after year is a joke and if arsenal spank us in the final will you be happy and say well its only the cup we are safe . is that the height of your ambition . today i was embarrassed by villa and so should all villa fans .
Well said Domingo someone else who sees the light. I’m sick of posters and fans being happy when we get hammered as long as we stay up. There is no pride Sherwood was shouting pride pride from the touch line which fell on deaf ears. The club is embarrassing and even though we will never crack the elite we should be at least where teams like Spurs and saints are.
Ha ha ha ha ha. Look at the bigger picture boys, then you will see why yesterdays result really did mean nothing. 🙂
Of course the result was awful, baffling and pathetic. However fans are now looking at the BIGGER picture. A couple months ago we were in the absolute crapper. No goals, no wins, nothing. Sherwood came in, changed that up, we’re now safe. Villa fans aren’t celebrating the loss, they’re not being positive about a loss, the fact that in just a couple months, we went from going bottom of the league and being screwed to being safe with a game left and in a final still. Villa lost, a ridiculously poor loss yes, but it’s a single loss that now means nothing to Villa because it doesn’t have a dire effect on us anymore. We can lose to Burnley 30-0 and we can’t go down. That’s all that matters this season, as awful as you may think.
It’s dead easy Oohah.
If you can only see the negative side of anything, the whole idea of supporting a club is totally pointless.
I like to think I moan when we’re really poor, but see positives when we’re good. Indeed, I look for positives, if I see things improving.
And let’s face it, whether it’s results overall, or even just the type of footy being played, things have improved lately.
It’s called balance mate.
But you don’t have much of that, imo.
Sometimes you just have to accept that we won’t be winning the league or the CL anytime soon, as much as we all want it.
Basically, I just don’t see the point in always being critical/negative.
He’s sulking because we’re staying up Badger. His weekend has been ruined.
Fair’s fair, B6.
I 100% believe Oohah wants the same as all of us.
He just has a different way of looking at things.
He has a funny way of showing it Badger. He struggles to be positive about anything other than being positively negative.
Oohah doesnt do negative! What are you suggesting? 🙂
True, Langford.
He even said he likes Sherwood!
Trying to be positive; this was a reality check.
Rather now than against Arsenal in two weeks time.
And I do remember when Sherwood arrived many people reckoned we’d get the occasional real stuffing from time to time, as the down-side to the scoring and winning games.
Other than Sunderland losing 8.0 no one else has had a stuffing like that. What’s worse is conceding 3 similar goals in the space of 2.5 mins ffs. It’s a joke
Means nothing, we’re safe.
Totally agreed Ardent, better to get it out of the way before the big one.
Gerrard the legend! Lol!!! Nice one Palace!!!
Lol
Can’t stand Gerard overrated tosser who’s held Liverpool bk for years. Secretly Rogers will glad he fcuked of they will be a better team without him
Liverpool haven’t been good in years, so he’s hardly the reason they’ve been held back.
Andrew go easy on oohah. He is upset because we are staying up and it’s ruined his weekend.
I know, he’s been miserable ever since his beloved Liverpool lost the league last season, despite all season telling them they wouldn’t and he said they would. Which he was wrong about that too. Probably sad Gerrard’s leaving them. It’s okay though, we’re safe. 😉
Means nothing, we’re safe.
jesus change the record . is being safe the height of your ambition .show some pride today was a fucking joke . i hated having to sit there today praying for spurs to pull us out of the shit but i did it just like a lot of villa fans. but im embarrassed by our team .
That’s the point for the majority of fans now staying up is all that matters. Losing 6.1 does not matter as long as we stay up pathetic! Small club mentality like small Heath no wonder we’re doomed
Sorry Oohah I disagree on that statement of Gerrard, he’s been a icon to Liverpool over the years ,OK we’ve seen some debatable thing he done like taking that free kick at Villa and scored,plus fained free penalties by going down, but as a club man for Liverpool I would have had that type of player in my team any day, good luck to him.never hate because of colours,
The only player to score in a European Cup final, UEFA Cup final, FA Cup final and a League cup final. Stevie G what a waste of space.
Long time ago
Time and time and all that in his day the best midfield player in Europe.
What better than iniesta, zidane, Xavi. I would rate lampard as just as good tbh
Wouldn’t argue about Lampard and in Zidane you’re probably talking about one of the greatest players of all time .
Xavi different type of player but all in all I’d put him up there with any of them.
Me too I’d take zidane now
Watched the Euro 2004 match in Portugal when we played France and were winning 1-0 until Zidane turned the game. I was shellshocked but what a player he was.
Have you heard the famous story about Dalglish and Walker at Blackburn?
Dalglish went to see Walker with a view to signing a young player making waves in France, the player a young Zinidine Zidane. Walkers reply – “Why do we need Zidane when we’ve got Sherwood”.
Well what can you say to that?
Ha ha not heard that. Why do we need Kroos when we’ve got Cleverley!!
We stayed up and Sherwood deserves a medal.
I was at todays game and our defending in the first half was poor.
But remember this is not his team he has not been able to make one addition.
He galvanised a bunch of players that were destined for the drop and somehow managed to get us enough points to stay up by playing well when many on here (including myself) thought we were doomed.
Plus to the F.A. cup final.
Spot on Steve.
After the load of crap that we had to endure under Lambert, where we were without doubt doomed to the championship, we really all ought to be out dancing outside the council house, even if we don’t win the cup!
Why worry about the result, one off shocks like this happen, Chelsea lost to Bradford 4-2 and the next day nobody cared. We move on and prepare for Burnley. we’re safe that was Tims objective and he completed it nothing else really matters. We will 100% give Arsenal a game and I personally believe we will beat them.
That’s the spirit Adam.
Otherwise, we might as well not bother turning up.
None of us like losing; and 6-1 would normally be a humiliation that could get a manager sacked!
But in the context of the last few seasons at VP, all that matters is that we don’t have to even think about the Burnley game now as a relegation decider; Villa will still be in the big-time for another season, so no more of the ‘cup or stay-up?’ dilemma.
Just looking back to February, I think we were dead in the water with Lambert, and would have been in the same position as Burnley or QPR are in today if the club hadn’t made the change then, and there’s no way we’d have a cup final to anticipate as a bonus.
Got torn a new arse hole by southampton but think it will work to our favour, give the players a kick up the arse, show them don’t get too cocky because if you go out there like that in the cup final you will get smashed!!! On the whole I really like sherwood, got us playing with some flair and will drop players, well done to him and thd team coz if lambert would have been in charge we would already been down. Go for it in the cup final and can start to prepare for next year, can’t wait to see what sherwood can do with a full pre season and his own signings, bright future ahead!!
TS hasn’t moaned about the injury list, he has got on with playing the fit players and slotting them into the roles that needed filling. Success comes of playing to your strengths and disguising your weaknesses. The starting point is too look at your opponents and the players you have and assess those weaknesses. This is where TS failed today – ignore the individual errors, the setup and tactics (a high back line, Hutton as left wingback) were wrong against 3 fast forwards.
Our back line is held together with duct-tape. Clark is quick, Richardson and Sissoko are quick, and Sanchez does cover his back four. Today none of the first three I mentioned were available and I am not sure if Sanchez is crocked, but he wasn’t chosen. The rest of our defence including Vlaar Senderos Ocore Hutton Lowton and Baker are slow. The only way to play Southampton with today’s line up was to sit right back on our 18 yard line and wait for Saints to push forward leaving space on the field between their back line and keeper. Instead as you will see on MOTD the space was between our back three and Given.
Outside of the defence the other major flop was NZog, nowhere near partnering Benteke up front he had one of his anonymous away-days. We cannot afford no-show-away players like him.
So who’s fault is it dropping Gil out of contention completely. Also the players that are injured are no better than what we’re out there today. He’s kept us up but so did lamberk and mcleish means nothing. Your spot on re them should of defended 18 yd line that’s exactly how we will play v arsenal. Next weeks game should be Sherwoid experimenting for cup final. The whole defence is a joke and pray that we sell vlaar in summer
Sell Vlaar? Isn’t he out of contract?
Think so if we offer him new deal we may as well give up
Agree with Originallondonlion. We played a flat defence too high up the pitch with no pace. Suicidal against a team like the Saints with speedy forwards. Would be equally suicidal against the Arsenal with their speed merchants up front, but hopefully we’ll not make the same mistake! (Incidentally, seem to remember the Gunners scoring three rapid fire goals against us in similar fashion earlier in the season).
I think we can all breathe properly again but what’s going to happen through the summer with these supposed bids.Will Sherwood get to stay as he’s proven he can rally the troops properly to compete in games and win I hope he stays.Will the club get a new manager,owner ect ect.We have had so many uncertain years it would be nice to get a decent season behind us without having to worry about shifting ourselves again with relegation.Im going to be optimistic about what’s to come as it’s better that than the opposite.On the game it’s one to forget WTF was going on out there nobody knows we were lucky Spurs beat Hull.Im sick and tired of us letting ourselves down at the moment we should be taking our chance to go forward.I know same old Villa it’s about time AVFC decided we are not for the taking and do the taking.Thank god that’s over and on to the part of the season that I really like which is the transfer window and players coming in lets hope there good ones.If we win the FA cup that will shine up what can go down as a poor poor season until Sherwood turned up and he turned things around.Phew UTV
Now we are mathematically safe we should no soon trimming the takeovers. Though I think it will be after cup final
got out of jail big time today.
if hull would of won we would have had a panic next week. if we would of lost by one or two fair enough but to let in six should really be a result that takes ages to get out of our system.
remember chelsea 8-0 it took about two months to get over.
and dont say thats lambert, once any team gets a hammering its hard to get over. so hopefully hulls result has helped that and i expect changes or rests for next week.
And just to counter that Andy, here’s a quote I’ve just read;
“In the penultimate game of the 1978 season Villa beat Ipswich 6-1. Ipswich went on to lift the FA cup beating Arsenal. Good omens”
I remember when we beat Ipswich in that game, but forgot they went on to win the cup.
Just goes to show mate.
I don’t believe the team under Sherwood will fold the way they did under Lambert.
I was thinking about that game today, I think a few teams around that time got a belting just before the final and went on to win it. Perhaps the omens are good.
dont get me wrong were safe with one game to play and a cup final to look forward to.
but from a players and staff point of view big defeats can sometimes have a hold over you.
as i said chelsea 8-0 but other clubs have suffered after bad defeats or got away with it.
just saying that i hope come next week we start again and put in a good performance otherwise arsenal have two hands on the cup already.
I think yesterday was a perfectly timed wake up call for us not to be complacent. A bad day, but far from unrecoverable. TS will learn from this and hopefully set the defence up a little more compact. Again, what defenders do we have fit??? Looking forward to a relaxing non-game next week and then the yummy final!!!!!! Thank you again Mr Sherwood. If we do get new owners in the summer, he’d be damned unlucky not to be given a chance after the way he was shipped out at Spuds (who’ve hardly set the world on fire with Potchetino)….
A final we will lose
Sherwood will not let that happen mate. I’m convinced 100%.
We’ll at least give ’em a game, win or lose 🙂
I think we will give them a game but honestly can’t see us winning
Anyway, the missus has just told me we’re going to win the cup.
She doesn’t care for footy at all, but told me months ago we wouldn’t be going down.
Let’s hope she’s right again, eh?
There’s only one Mrs Badger
See OhAhh! You can raise a smile if you try!!! 🙂
Lol
You’re lucky to have a missus that does not care for football. Mine is a big fan but a bad loser – not a good characteristic for a Villa fan, we get plenty of practice. My missus was out of the house to the local shops for 8 minutes, came in with a cheery ‘Any score yet?’ and would not believe the 3-0. Just to cap it – she is a farmer’s daughter so before marrying me she was a Tractor Girl and still follows them. I am going to bed tonight with shin-pads on, and not the Grealish size either.
My missus hates football with a passion she would rather stick pins in her eyes than have to watch a game!!
Now everybody knows we’re a couple Badger 🙂
Right, just back in from a day on the lash that involved the lows of getting battered by Southampton and the highs of being safe – I’m delighted. I like Tim Sherwood, he has a can do attitude and if we lose a few while trying to win I’ll be happy.
OohAah, you’ve become a parody of yourself. I know your “role” on here is to be the moany / negative one bit quite frankly you’re painfully transparent and I suspect you are a closet Liverpool / Arsenal fan and would hate it if we won the FA Cup as it would distort your big (Sky) vs smaller club complex.
I’m looking forward to the cup final and then a transfer window full of surprises.
Incoherent again (but delighted). Cheers.
But I do dislike Vlaar – forgot to say that.
Not the only one. Iv harped on for ages how shit he is gives us 5 decent games a season at best. Let’s hope we get rid of him.
Ha ha iv proved to be positive when something to be positive about. If you think a 6.1 defeat is something to be positive about then ur deluded. It’s an embarrassment. And winning the FA cup is nothing to do with sky 4 even Wigan and Portsmouth have win it in recent years winning the FA cup does not define you as a big team.
Fair play – however, confirming premier league safety was a massive positive (it’s disappointing that we are having to celebrate that), as I said there were highs and lows yesterday. There is an air of optimism around our club that hasn’t been there for a good few years and I genuinely believe we can give anyone a game – what a contrast to a few months back.
I’m very interested to see what Sherwood will do in a transfer window, and how he performs at the start of a season when it’s not about galvanising the squad in adversity. You can say the jury’s out, but I for one am more than prepared to believe for now.
Yr actually rather coherent after all those beers…or were you on the shandy???
So we got beat 6-1; embarrassing yes but looking at the last 13 games under TS it’s the first one where we failed to compete and can honestly say we deserved nothing. Sh*t happens but I can’t suddenly change from being positive under TS anymore than one good result under Lambert meant we had ‘turned a corner’.
Nobody remembers yesterday’s results so just enjoy that we’re safe and have an FA Cup Final to look forward to.
After that of more importance is the ownership of our beloved club, who will be our manager; what funds will he have to invest in the team and how they are spent.
On a different point – who us going to take that third relegation place? Newcastle anybody?
Would love to see Newcastke go down but likely to be hull as can’t see them beating Utd
Morning all, bright sunny day and the fans are singing, hey we all know how yesterday’s game came about? tactics was wrong players inept of stopping it, Sherwood will sort it ,fucking Lambert wouldn’t, Big times ahead cup final, Villa sold, new players, and a new strip, great to be a Villa fan. Today I’m off to see my 9 year old grandson play footy at Coventry ground in a cup match, he’s has happy as a pig in shite, I’m I’m in the same camp as OLL, Hitch, and Badger, we all seen why we was hammered, we don’t like it, but tomorrow another day, I think a lesson learnt, and bigger times for us to come. and thanks BWS Stevie G is a class player, Oohah never seen one yet, nore ever will.
MATE good luck to your grandson today I hope they win, the spurs win over powers our embarrassing result for me.yes lessons learnt I hope, we’re not invincible I’m fully behind timbo we’ll stuff Burnley onwards we go. UTV
Morning Bill! Good luck with the game! On the Stevie G topic, seemingly as he’s such a roll model, anyone remember when he got off scott free assaulting that club owner even when it was caught on CCTV???? Not a roll model I’d like my kids to follow. Glad he’s gone, but in all fairness his legs had given up on him. He’ll be okay in the USA…unless he does a Lampard…now that was embarrassing! Lol!
Agree he assaulted a dj allegedley http://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jul/21/steven-gerrard-court-trial
We all said lesson learnt after Newcastle and Chelsea look what happened there. Didn’t improve defence in second half either. Sherwood out of his depth
For the last few weeks i have refused to read any contribution by oohah and guess what I feel a lot better for it.
Watched the game yesterday from sunny Bulgaria, which was an utter shambles, very embarrassing, the players should be ashamed of themselves. The managers comments after the game summed it up when he said the whole playing and coaching staff plus management let the club down. It would be a nice gesture if all staff and players donated their weeks wages each to ACORNS because they certainly did not earn it. I hope this gets some air time and the pressure is put on them as it is a small snip-it from their vast wealth.
At least we stay in the PL….thanks to the rest of the results.
Well said Swampduck though most fans are happy we lost 6.1 because we stayed up ! Compete joke
That is not correct. I have not read any comment from anyone on here that has said they are happy to loose 6 -1. THEY ARE HAPPY THAT WE STAYED UP. Two different issues that just happened within a few hours of each other. If we had have won the match 6 – 1 but still had a chance to go down would be better.
And yet no mentions the 6.1 embarrassment because we stayed up. Great day to bury bad news then!
OOHA we could of won 6-1 yesterday & you’d still find something to moan about your comments are becoming so predictable now.
I didn’t moan when we’ve recently won games so ur talking bollox
I’ll have to check over the history I must of missed that post.
And some credit where it is due. He plays for Southampton not a sky 4 team, he isn’t English and he doesn’t bite people – so he doesn’t get much coverage. Sadio Mané was brilliant, and he has been in many other Saints games. He is a top class striker, In my opinion in the top 10 in the world right now, and we will hear a lot more of him. We won’t underestimate him again.
True he will be a sky 4 player then saints are a selling club like us the difference is they use their money effectively and are run properly where our club is run by a clown