Sinclair on loan and Villa in for Ba? *UPDATE* 29.01.2015 17:26

It seems that Lamberts hardball has paid off and Sinclair has conceded to a loan deal with an option to buy at the end of the season. This is possibly the best scenario for us as we get the player we all wanted and we get a trial run with him to see if he still has what we all hope he does before we make any further commitments.
The word is that the medical has been passed which means an official announcement is due any time soon.

Now for some more exciting news, Aston Villa are apparently in a battle with Hull City (Yes, Hull City) for the 29 year old Demba Ba and I must admit, this is a very exciting prospect as I believe he would be the perfect partner for Benteke and a struggling team.

This is a very short and snappy post but I genuinely think that despite all of this negativity surround Aston Villa and even more so on this forum post the Tom Fox comments, I honestly believe that Aston Villa are at the beginning of something great and the light at the end of the tunnel is starting to appear. I don’t believe the club will be sold and once we survive relegation, I think there will be some serious investment in the club come the summer. It is no small feat ensuring players stay at a failing club, and even more so, bringing in decent players. Maybe I am naive, but I do honestly believe that this summer will see the start of a new era at Villa park.

Whilst i’m here making these wild comments, I think this is our year for the FA Cup as well. Now come at me people, tell me how wrong these thoughts are.


Just hearing that AVFC are attempting a late bid for MK Don’s Delle Alli. The 19 year old is currently at MK Dons and is being touted as one of Englands future prospects. It was understood that Newcastle was close to signing the player for 5million with him remaing at MK Dons for the remainder of the season but this is rumoured to have been halted by Aston Villas late interest.
5 million you all say? To make things more believable, the word is that we have lined up a 2million bid, with the option to loan the player back for the remainder of the season and then pay the rest off the fee come summer.

What do you all think? This transfer window is turning out to be very entertaining, lets’s hope some of todays stories reach an official agreement.


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  1. Hitchens 60
    Hitchens 60 January 29, 2015 at 10:15 pm . Reply

    See on the BBC that Gil has been voted the best signing of January ahead of Bony with 18.5% of the vote. Let’s hope he has the same impact as Benteke and Bent before him in another fight against relegation.

    1. Badger123
      Badger123 January 30, 2015 at 12:34 am . Reply

      Bit strange that, given that he’s only played 2 hours or so.
      Not that I’m knocking it.

      He’s had a fabulous start and I just hope he can keep it up.

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath January 30, 2015 at 1:05 am . Reply

        Let’s see if it lasts he’s got the surprise element at the moment. Having said that he is a breath of fresh air that we desperately need.

  2. Badger123
    Badger123 January 30, 2015 at 12:31 am . Reply

    I must admit, I was totally against this loan thing, but now I’m not so sure.
    Imagine how raving mad we’d all be if we’d paid an outright fee of £7 million for Cleverley.

    That said, it strikes me that Lambert has been given a total amount of money to spend, which includes wages and transfer fees, which isn’t much, meaning we can’t actually buy anyone, if they’re on typical Prem money.
    Hence for me, getting Sinclair on a loan is probably our best bet.

    Ba, I don’t see that one happening at all.
    He’d be far too expensive to buy and I certainly don’t see him coming on loan at this stage of his career.
    He’ll want a contract.
    Be nice though, although I can only see him as backup/replacement for Benteke, who if he doesn’t come into form soon, won’t be going anywhere in the summer.

    1. Andrew
      Andrew January 30, 2015 at 3:03 am . Reply

      Ba does seem the type of striker you’d get to replace someone, but depth up front, as long as Lambert thinks Weimann and Gabby are not strikers, is something we have none of currently. I know Ba and Cisse didn’t work well together, Ba being pushed out wide for Cisse, but I can’t see it being a replacement at this rate. I do think we’ll get a striker, loan, permanently, either way we need one and seems Lambert wants one.

      There was always a transfer kitty, I just think Lambert’s hesitant of spending a lot of money on Sinclair, while 4m’s not a lot, on someone who rarely plays it definitely was. Loan was the best option, just like for Cleverley, even though I think there was more than enough money there to sign both permanently now.

      1. Hitchens 60
        Hitchens 60 January 30, 2015 at 8:29 am . Reply

        Agree with you Andrew. The B’ham Mail piece on Sinclair’s loan spell with WBA was very damning so to blow £3m+ plus on Sinclair would be a big mistake but a loan is probably worth a punt.

        1. saddened
          saddened January 30, 2015 at 8:44 am . Reply

          I think the Villa have been ripped off so many times in the past, Lerner is now being a little more sensible in his approach and has a fantastic CEO to do his negotiating… Loans with an option to buy are a fantastic solution for the club.

          I have woken all positive today !!

    GIDDYVILLAN January 30, 2015 at 10:30 am . Reply

    Saddened don’t sound like you mate 😉 is there an imposter on here????

    1. saddened
      saddened January 30, 2015 at 11:27 am . Reply

      Ha ha Giddy… Yep its me, I think most of us have been crying out to know what the hell is happening with our once great club…. Foxy has come out and told us to not expect miracles, that Lerner is not looking to sell at the moment and Lambert is going nowhere, as its too much of a gamble to get rid…..
      At last someone has got the balls to tell us the truth, thats a positive in my book……
      And if we get Ba and Sinclair I think I may just explode with positiveness !

    #HELENIUS January 30, 2015 at 10:32 am . Reply

    Jeeeeeez, I thought Id clicked onto the wrong site…..this threads full of positivity…..

    For that Mr_Cheese, I salute you sir.

    As much as I’d love Ba I cannot see it happening. I’m sure they could play well together as Benteke like to come deep (or is that just because it’s the only way he can get involved?)

    Sinclair, loan deal is brilliant, even if its just to give Gabby & co a kick up the jacksy!! If he’s crap, back he goes.


  5. gerry
    gerry January 30, 2015 at 11:11 am . Reply

    Sky News. A loan finalised within the hour for Sinclair

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain January 30, 2015 at 12:26 pm . Reply

      According to BBC Sport – deal done by 12.07.

      1. Hitchens 60
        Hitchens 60 January 30, 2015 at 12:38 pm . Reply

        Confirmed done

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath January 30, 2015 at 1:04 pm . Reply

          Whoopee we’ve signed the worst loanee WBA have ever had on loan I’m so impressed!

          1. Bill Pearson
            Bill Pearson January 30, 2015 at 1:40 pm . Reply

            Glad your happy Oohah hate to see you miserable,

          2. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN January 30, 2015 at 1:57 pm . Reply

            Typical OOHA knocking a player before he’s even kicked a ball for us.give the chap a chance FFS.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath January 30, 2015 at 4:02 pm . Reply

              I’m usually right though iv not been proved wrong once yet when iv said a player is crap I’m usually prove correct

          3. BWS
            BWS January 30, 2015 at 3:02 pm . Reply

            Fair comment Giddy, Oohah’s busy making his banner in preparation for the Leicester game…

            (BY THE WAY YOU’RE SHIT)

            The bloke is unbelievable.

          4. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN January 30, 2015 at 3:20 pm . Reply


  6. turv32
    turv32 January 30, 2015 at 12:39 pm . Reply

    It’s on the OS season long loan deal done

  7. Hitchens 60
    Hitchens 60 January 30, 2015 at 12:40 pm . Reply

    Nice to read some objective (and more positive!) comments on here. I still think we are in one hell of a fight to stay in the Prem and it could well go down to the last game. What I want to see is the team giving it a real go starting on Sunday UTV

  8. Adam
    Adam January 30, 2015 at 12:48 pm . Reply

    Welcome Sinclair. Will Lambert be brave enough to start him on Sunday as well as Gil?? I can only hope!

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain January 30, 2015 at 12:54 pm . Reply

      Would be surprised if he was going to be ready to start on Sunday – more likely a 20 minute run-out later in the game?

  9. pat57
    pat57 January 30, 2015 at 12:55 pm . Reply

    Just heard there’s no Costa for the Chelsea game. Banned for stamping.

    From no hope to slim hope perhaps 🙂

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath January 30, 2015 at 1:03 pm . Reply

      El plastico tomorrow. Just sums up both teams perfectly

  10. jaymo83
    jaymo83 January 30, 2015 at 1:26 pm . Reply

    Maybe it’s through shear desperation, maybe it’s the euphoria of knowing I can have a beer this weekend after a month off, maybe it’s a short bout of madness or maybe that Friday feeling has gone to my head but I’m putting it out there……

    I think Sinclair will be a REVELATION for us!

    We know he had enormous potential at Swansea (a team who play the possession game) and we also know it’s not worked out at Man City or West Brom but, having seen the interview on the OS he really seems like a decent lad joining a team full of like minded individuals all of a similar age and many of whom he knows. He seems to be level headed as do the rest of the team so I can’t see any egos getting out of control and I really feel, if he can stay fit, his pace, directness and football intelligence can be a real asset.

    So what if it didn’t work out at Man City (with the talent they have at there disposal and the egos that come with it it’s understandable), so what if it didn’t work out at West Brom (he struggled with injuries and played in a very defensive minded Clarke team who had little possession), he’s at the Villa now so let’s get behind him and the rest of the lads.

    Man it feels good to be excited about football again!

    Up the Villa!

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath January 30, 2015 at 1:38 pm . Reply

      Ay. Isn’t lamberk negative and defensive the same as Clarke?

      1. jaymo83
        jaymo83 January 30, 2015 at 1:41 pm . Reply

        Personally I would say in the past he has been (the reasons why can be debated – I think it’s been personnel related) but I think the combination of a more possession based passing game and the signings of Gill and Sinclair show that things are changing

    2. Bill Pearson
      Bill Pearson January 30, 2015 at 1:46 pm . Reply

      Jaymo83 Oohah impressed, he’s just got out of bed and diving in all over the posts saying how pleased he is. Good on ya Oohah.

      1. GarethVilla
        GarethVilla January 30, 2015 at 3:04 pm . Reply

        I find it amazing that a win against Bournemouth reserves and then signing someone who hasn’t played for 2 years out come all the turn-coats again.
        I suppose when we lose on Sunday you’ll all be down in the dumps again.

        1. Hitchens 60
          Hitchens 60 January 30, 2015 at 3:13 pm . Reply

          You know what Gareth you’re probably right. Maybe that will make you feel happy ‘cos nothing else does!

          1. GarethVilla
            GarethVilla January 30, 2015 at 3:17 pm . Reply

            Reading your comments usually brings a smile to my face!

        2. jaymo83
          jaymo83 January 30, 2015 at 3:17 pm . Reply

          If that’s aimed at me GarethVilla I’m not sure how I’m a turncoat?
          Look back at previous posts – my stance has never changed. I don’t like what’s happening to our club but I accept in the current climate not a lot will change and under the circumstances Lambert is probably the best man for the job. I’ve said all along his record of signings has been good and that I doubt anyone else could do much better with the current constraints, let alone the potential managers who’d be interested in the job.
          I’ve also said I hope he gets the chance to stick around long enough so that he can spend money when we have it as I believe he deserves the opprtunity.

          Feel free to screenshot this and ram it down my throat if we’re relegated 😉

          1. GarethVilla
            GarethVilla January 30, 2015 at 3:24 pm . Reply

            Not aimed at any individual, but if the cap fits.
            “His record of signings has been good”, blimey.
            Steer, Lowton, Bennett, Luna, Senderos, El Ahmadi, Bacuna, Cleverley, Cole, Richardson, Helenius, Bowery, Sylla, Dawkins, Holt.
            As you say an excellent record.
            If he was the “best man for the job”, we may aswell have stayed with McLeish.

          2. BWS
            BWS January 30, 2015 at 3:38 pm . Reply

            Not bad for someone that aint got a pot to piss in. when he has spent any decent amount he’s been pretty shrewd –
            Christian Benteke
            Libor Kozak
            Jores Okore
            Leandro Bacuna
            Ashley Westwood
            Ron Vlaar
            Carles Gil

          3. Hitchens 60
            Hitchens 60 January 30, 2015 at 3:49 pm . Reply

            BWS – Gareth will just tell you you’re being selective 🙂

          4. BWS
            BWS January 30, 2015 at 3:54 pm . Reply

            Probably Hitchy but don’t that cat both ways?

          5. jaymo83
            jaymo83 January 30, 2015 at 3:58 pm . Reply

            OK GarethVilla, as I have some spare time I’ll humour you 🙂

            Firstly, a definition of turncoat for you “a person who deserts one party or cause in order to join an opposing one” i.e. not me.

            Secondly, lets analyse Lambert’ signings:
            Steer – signed as a young back up keeper, currently doing very well on loan at Yeovil (about to come back), highly rated prospect – explain how this is a bad signing?
            Lowton – Great first season, hasn’t kicked on and apparently has a bit of an attitude problem. Cost us less than £1 million and apparently Swansea want him for more than double that – explain how this is a bad signing?
            Bennett – Didn’t make the grade, out on loan and I would imagine we’d recoup the bulk of the fee paid if we sell him
            Luna – Not worked out, I agree poor signing.
            Senderos – Free transfer, experienced international player on relatively low wages, out injured at the moment but played fantastically well at start of season – explain how this is a bad signing?
            El Ahmadi – low cost player on low wages who did reasonable well and when sold we apparently recouped his transfer fee – explain how this is a bad signing?
            Bacuna cost less than £1 million, scored 5 (I think) goals last season and would easily double what we paid should we sell him – explain how this is a bad signing?
            Cleverley – low risk loan signing, not worked out so far but plenty of teams were interested in him and still would be – explain how this is a bad signing?
            Cole – Free transfer on relatively low wages who has looked great in patches but far too injury prone, however, on low wages with no fee surely he was worth the punt?
            Richardson – never rated him, agree poor signing but again low wages and no fee
            Helenius – Cost less than £1 million on low wages, still a prospect
            Bowery – Never worked out but again barely cost the club anything
            Sylla – I personally rated him but clearly down the pecking order and wasn’t going to be in Lamberts squad
            Dawkins – Loan, shot to nothing, worth a punt?
            Holt – A player on loan, who Lambert new inside out, again another gamble but agreed didn’t work out.

            You conveniently left out Benteke, Guzan, Okore, Vlaar, Gill (looks like a find) who have all done very well – AND THAT’S THE IMPORTANT BIT! The players Lambert has signed who’ve done the best have cost £3 million or more, the players around the £1 million mark have been mixed – what else do you expect???? When you cant pay big money for players and you cant pay big wages you end up taking far more gambles on players from different or lower leagues. I would argue that pound for pound Lamberts record stands up well against any other manager in the league!

            People forget that Houllier spent £18 million on Bent, £5 million on Makoun, that McCleish spent £5 million on Given and £10 million on N’zogbia, all of whom were on mega money compared to Lamberts signings.

            Get real folks, Lambert is doing a decent (admittedly not great) job with one hand tied behind his back, its change at the top we need – Lerner needs to s#*t or get off the pot.

            UP THE VILLA

          6. Hitchens 60
            Hitchens 60 January 30, 2015 at 5:14 pm . Reply

            Exactly BWS – I was trying a bit or irony 🙂

        3. Ardent Villain
          Ardent Villain January 30, 2015 at 3:51 pm . Reply

          Gareth – “Turncoats” is a strange word to use.

          Nobody is enjoying what’s happened at Villa this season, or the last few. If there’s any ‘good news’ this week it’s that at least the people owning/running the club seem to realise the same thing – even if their preferred solution of sticking with Lambert and giving him some peanuts to play with in the transfer market [in EPL terms] doesn’t agree with that of the majority of fans on here.

          It’s also pretty clear that there’s no white-knight about to buy the club before the end of this season at the soonest – so unless you have a few £billion to spare, none of us can change that.

          Given those conditions, the rest of us can either carry-on beating our heads against the wall on forums like this one, boycott the club/games until there are some owners who agree with us as to who should be manager and which players to buy/play, OR we just look for the slightest signs that there may be some work going on to change things, even if it’s never soon enough!

          1. GarethVilla
            GarethVilla January 30, 2015 at 4:04 pm . Reply

            Jaymo83, well you certainly did make me laugh so fair play to you.
            You admit to being in the anti-Lambert camp but then do nothing but praise him! Strange that.

        4. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath January 30, 2015 at 4:05 pm . Reply

          Exactly Gareth too many people on here r easily pleased. Sinclair will be another Ireland. May do a couple of good things initially but will die a death. I said the same about cleverly etc and was mocked but they ain’t mocking No more lol

          1. BWS
            BWS January 30, 2015 at 4:08 pm . Reply

            Another day same old shit… YAWWWNN

          2. jaymo83
            jaymo83 January 30, 2015 at 4:09 pm . Reply

            Sorry GarrethVilla, where did I state I was in the anti Lambert camp?

          3. GarethVilla
            GarethVilla January 30, 2015 at 4:12 pm . Reply

            BWS, your a classic example.
            How many times have we read “thats it for me, I’ve given Lambert long enough”.

          4. BWS
            BWS January 30, 2015 at 4:15 pm . Reply

            Give this a ring 0161 868 8000, I think you and Oohah will find your spiritual home.

          5. nath
            nath January 30, 2015 at 4:49 pm . Reply

            that’s my number ALMOST lamo

  11. Hitchens 60
    Hitchens 60 January 30, 2015 at 3:53 pm . Reply

    See Clark has been injured in training – what is it with us and CH’s?

    GIDDYVILLAN January 30, 2015 at 4:02 pm . Reply

    Turncoats???? I for one ain’t singing lamberts praises,so in the hope Sinclair turns out to be an asset to us that’s unthinkable & we should be ashamed with Lambert???

  13. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson January 30, 2015 at 4:17 pm . Reply

    Well Giddy we haven’t had to pay to get our nails cut with him running the team.

      GIDDYVILLAN January 30, 2015 at 4:28 pm . Reply

      Too right mate even my toe nails.

  14. nath
    nath January 30, 2015 at 4:53 pm . Reply

    any more signings 🙂 ronaldo on his way ???

  15. nath
    nath January 30, 2015 at 5:02 pm . Reply

    i think villa park might be place were sinclair really settles. his other half wants to leave manchester and the guy really does have the talent. so i hope and believe this will be a decent no risk signing. now two attacking creative players behind benteke or will this mean a switch to 442 most fans want either way we are looking much healthier

  16. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson January 30, 2015 at 6:03 pm . Reply

    The Daily Mail report that Aston Villa have joined the race to sign £5m-rated MK Dons starlet Dele Alli.

    They say Paul Lambert has launched an ambitious attempt to land the 18-year-old midfielder before Monday’s transfer deadline. Hope its right lads.

    1. GarethVilla
      GarethVilla January 30, 2015 at 6:42 pm . Reply

      Ambitious, Aston Villa – I don’t think so.

  17. Jay Dee
    Jay Dee January 30, 2015 at 6:04 pm . Reply

    One more I reckon before the window shuts utv

  18. OriginalLondonLion
    OriginalLondonLion January 30, 2015 at 6:58 pm . Reply

    I was about to get positive about the Gunners game because Alexi Sanchez is out, but some of our crocks looking fitter, when I read Clark was injured on training. Paul McGrath was right, Villa CH’s should avoid training at all costs. If Vlaar is back in place of Clark we will probably need to score twice for a point.

    Sinclair on loan is a good piece of business. He has a lot to prove. I remember him as a very talented Swansea player, though a bit inconsistent, but he has done nothing worthwhile on camera since. Still it is cheap to find out.

    I can only see Ba as a replacement for Benteke,

    I am sorry to see Grealish being put out on loan. It will be good for Grealish if he goes somewhere he can start the game and Forest under Pearce would be better than Wolves. However Grealish clearly does not impress Lambert if Sinclair can displace him from our bench.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath January 30, 2015 at 8:09 pm . Reply

      Looks like a new dof is on his way

    2. steve
      steve January 31, 2015 at 7:49 am . Reply

      Our youth will never progress under Lambert into the first team.
      Grealish / Robinson will be sold in due course.
      Lambert follows the O’Neil method of having to buy in rather than look at what he already have.
      It appears that our youth system is actually in decline looking at recent results.

      1. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson January 31, 2015 at 7:58 am . Reply

        I’ll second that Steve, if you ask me he’s to frightened a manager (if you can call him that) to play young home grown player’s, and it keeps Lerner off his back to sell rather pay a wage.

        1. nath
          nath January 31, 2015 at 11:05 am . Reply

          i disagree and i will tell you why, both robinson and grealish look the part and maybe fantastic players, but they are not that now. if you two were manager of villa and staying up is all that matters this season. you are hardly gonna blood to novices like these two. far safer to buy or loan in proven quality.

          they will go back out on loan and progress making mistakes for another teams, not costly for our team. grealish and robinson aren’t too far away now from our first team, just we aren’t mid table and can’t afford the luxury to blood um ourselves. if grealish gets loaned in championship this will be a good loan and robinson needs a championship club also, div1 he proved himself already.

          1. BWS
            BWS January 31, 2015 at 12:08 pm . Reply

            Nath, Steve, Bill all of you are right. Nath you’re right in the fact Lambert cannot take a gamble on the kids and chance premiership survival. Steve/Bill you’re right in saying he should be giving the kids a chance but this is where something needs to change in English football say like the German model.
            I believe Bayern look at buying x amount and bringing x amount through the ranks, imo a more sensible and sustainable plan. Perhaps some time English football will come to it senses and impose the number of home grown on all clubs but I doubt they’ll ever have the balls or the vision to do it.

  19. Jay Dee
    Jay Dee January 31, 2015 at 10:30 am . Reply

    Lerners restructuring the top positions maybe there is a bit of light breaking through.Tom Fox top bloke him.A DOF coming in a football man to make sure the club doesn’t miss taking care of the football side of things.Gil,Sinclair good signings creative players we badly needed.Now to push away from relegation with a bit of luck……Lets do Arse lol utv

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum January 31, 2015 at 10:40 am . Reply

      Agreed. We just need a decent Manager.

  20. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum January 31, 2015 at 10:34 am . Reply

    For all the new found positivity, we’re going to find ourselves in the bottom three come February. Hull away, Stoke at home, a dodgy game against the Barcodes. If two of the four teams below us win today, we’ll be one place off the relegation places.
    It’s not that I don’t think we have a bad squad, just a fucking idiot of a manager. He should be put in charge of transfers, and let someone take over running the first team, someone who knows how to play.

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