The document is not on Companies House yet but I have got from another source a very significant share allocation document.
Remember I posted a couple of weeks ago RAL (Reform Acquisitions Limited) who owns Villa had lifted the restrictions on the number of shares to be held.
Well an Allotment of Shares document was posted on the 18/12/13 showing that £90million of shares had been allotted. This took the total shares at Villa to £223 million and thus above the original £200M that we did have.
You ask – so what ??
Well previously when shares had been allotted this was in effect money put into the club usually by randy in swapping debt for shares at usually £5M a go. This is £90 MILLION we are talking about and if this is the same as before would wipe out a large chunk of the debt in one go.
Or it could be investment into the club ….
As I suggested when we saw the share lift that was more than just tidying up the books, it allowed for this move ……
Either way this is good news –
If wiping off a large % of the debt then wages can be increased
If it is an investor then it means more money
thats interesting ooh ahh.
I would find it hard to believe though. maybe not.
firstly money wise.
it would be strange for a money man to relinquish control when he has put his cash towards securing exactly that.
The alternative thought i had was that he kept him on to advise behind the scenes .. from one former owner to the new owner.
i see very little of Deadly’s methods on show at villa these days.
does anyone else see any of Ellis’s hallmarks through lerners ownership?
I am curious now.
Lambert would have been axed by now if Doug was in charge so there is no involvement that I can see
The person that told me is an player from the 80s sorry can’t mention his name for obvious reasons. But he told me recently that Ellis has an influence and has caused a lot of sniping within the club. Not just on the playing side either.
Eliis’s management structure is still in place except Randy brought in Falkner is CEO and a lot of the old school employees don’t think he is suitable so it’s a bit of a power struggle
No I really do not see Ellis being to involved in the day to day running of the club, he is starting to show is age from what I saw of him last week, he is just a supporter now, who most probably is not to happy with things right now.just my opinion.
Still no transfer movement
It wouldn’t surprise me if Ellis is partly running the show.
Or if this stupid wage cap was even his idea.
As for this raise in the share cap, I’ll bet any money Lambert will not get significant money to spend. Who’d trust him on his previous record up to now, Benteke apart?
Hence I haven’t a clue what it’s about.
Bit harsh Badger…nothing wrong with Okore, Bacuna or Sylla, Benteke for the price we paid for them. How much did MON spend on Knight, Reo Coker, Sidwell, Harewood? By comparison Lambert has not done too bad on at least 3 or 4 signings.
You could argue that Lamberts signings are not good enough for the PL although costing a total of approx 12 mil….compare that to the 4 MONs signings I mention who cost around 25 mil…..and none of them were PL standard IMO….everything is relative!
Yes, perhaps a bit harsh, but not overly so Langford, imo.
I could counter with Bennett, Luna, KEA, Tonev without even thinking about it.
I’m not saying they’re crap per se, but I think it fair to say that they are at least not ready for what’s required.
This is what pisses me right off. We’re buying kids that aren’t up to it and not using the kids we already have.
Why?
I could also go on about how Harewood was a dirt cheap buy because we couldn’t get anyone else.
And I’d practically kill for a NRC now, as we’re so gutless in the middle, it’s a joke.
But you’re not alone in hating MON.
Best we’ll get for years, imo and made me believe, fwiw.
Agree I’m reliably informed that Lerner listens to him.
Rubbish – Ellis wanted Steve Stride to stay on-board and Lerner rejected it and brought his own board in
I think we’re about to get a big player in Villa and I don’t mean a footballer. Lerner I think will be bought out before end of season and this is the start of it
It’s been bought to my attention since last night that the site has been as slow as toast.
I’ve tried a few things and would appreciate people telling me if it’s any better please.
Cheers chaps 🙂
I thought it was my connection badger, was slow up until this afternoon for me but it’s all good now.
Badger, you are right the site is very slow atm. From my point of view your changes haven´t improved. We are nearly so slow than the play of our first team.
Haha, I like it Joty 🙂
Badger I struggled last night and gave up, tonight is a little better but not at normal speed, I’ve checked my own upload speed and it’s running fine.
Ok lads, cheers for the replies.
I’ve cleaned up the data base, reinstalled WP and raised a ticket with the host.
I’ve just seen a “couldn’t connect to the database” error, so assume they’ve just re-booted the server or something.
I’d appreciate if you can keep me updated lads, as I never know if the site’s running slow or it’s just the crap Wifi in my digs.
Whatever, we’re on the case.
Cheers.
Currently seems ok to me, but keep me informed please lads.
Was slow for me last night but been fine all day…
Interesting to read that some people believe that Doug Ellis still has involvement at Aston Villa, I had the privilege to meet Mr Ellis about three years ago, he was in the present of Garry Newbone who from what I could see never leaves his side. He told me then that through 3 major operations over them number of months that his memories of the days at Villa was not very good. He still has a office at the club but its mostly for the love of Villa, you have to remember he is a major share holder of Manor Breweries and I believe Chairman of the board, Doug Ellis is frail person now and I don’t think that he would hold much clout other than watch his investment and agreement on selling the club. Remember their was a lot of assets sold to Lerner and was agreed not to spit them up. All that is my understanding of Doug and Aston Villa today,
I don;t care about Ellis (apart from those who wish to revise history and claim he saved us) but Lerner owns the club lock, stock and barrel he is the ultimate responsibility, If he is taking tips from Ellis then that shows how stupid Lerner is.
Site is fine this morning Badger. Tried to post last night but gave up as too slow.
Yawn Yawn Shares blah blah blah, Randy’s a twat, Ellis is a bigger twat, more Blah Blah Blah.
On a more important note, have we signed anybody yet?
Bill tells me now Robo is a bloody idiot mate.
Hi Bill all this talk of shares equity and the likes bores me to tears, to be honest I haven’t the slightest interest in the politics just the football. .
What gets me BWS he was ready to practically jump of Aston Bridge until our two brave owners came in now he’s taking over again his assumption of what’s going on, he doesn’t lissen to people he over powers them with his believe, please go back into hiding Robot , at least it was free site to talk.
Sorry Bill, there was more freedom of opinion under Robo than the current owners I’m afraid.
Looks like the Hoolahan deals off.I wasn’t to keen anyway.Theres experience then theres experience on the cheap just to say hes an experienced player.There are better AM outhere its just bringing em in……I want to see a quality experienced player of ability that has had CL experience and also a medal winner of some sort.CM is also where we need this sort of quality along with CB.Come on Villa catch up….UTV
Jd not to sure we’ve heard the last of the hoolahan link mate,it happens alot offers & deals fall flat on their arse then wallop.i don’t for one minute think he never put a transfer req in.you watch he’ll go public next saying norwich won’t let him leave.
We wont sign anyone until deadline day my bet.
Adam i totally agree mate it’s going to be alot of panic buying at the last minute.
which is mad seeing as we have a string of very losable games in which a few additions may have proved very handy!
Tell me about it mate,i was hopeing for a signing before the arse game.yes we’ve got some darling games coming up with injuries in defence im dreading it.cricket scores he we come arse & shitty pay back big time.
That defence is shite apart from Vlaar. If he’s fit the others seem to play better but they still drop clangers now and again. Arse and City on fire cant see anything but a couple of hammerings if im honest. Damage limitation I think.
Yes mate hopefully keep it down to 6. 🙂 shitty are averaging 4 every home game.shite
I tried posting yesterday but it did not work lets hope it does today
The Birmingham mail are doing an online survey for the season so far, if the board dont take notice of forums they do surveys in the main local rag