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  1. Colonius81
    Colonius81 January 10, 2014 at 8:04 pm . Reply

    who is rodney marsh?
    i never heard of him .. he might be a pundit all well and good he might have been an ex footballer all well and good.

    I think you give him way too much respect.
    and put far too much stock in his apparently irrefutable certified footballing diagnosis, forumalated after years of study and graduation from the royal college of football punditry.


    if you we are going to start creating imaginary leagues and sub divisions i propose a different one!

    The also ran league!
    the only real criteria is that if the club lacks the ability to spend 50- 100m every transfer window then there you are..
    you can finish anywhere from from probably 18th to 6th

    Everton are vying for promotion this season from this league into what is probably a new league .. a league unto their own almost!

    I would argue that in order for them to have gotten there they used the concept of continuity and long term approach!

    you are welcome to dismiss these leagues and come up with your own

    in the end .. they are all imaginary
    and should be probably treated as such

  2. Langfordvilla
    Langfordvilla January 10, 2014 at 8:06 pm . Reply

    Yes…Rondey Marsh is correct. Randy and his penny pinching has left us firmly in the ‘hangers on league’. Too many cuts too fast IMO. There must have been a slower, steadier way of dealing with the finances of the club without it be so detrimental to the playing side. ………so,
    Fuck off Lerner, the Villa is OURS!

    GIDDYVILLAN January 10, 2014 at 8:17 pm . Reply

    We’re not the only hangers on we’ve been in the prem since it began which alot of teams can’t boast.peaks & troughs recently the latter.what rodney spouts goes in one ear out the other.now wigan were what you call hangers on.i take it with a pinch of salt.

  4. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones January 10, 2014 at 8:51 pm . Reply

    LANGFORD GIDDY May i ask a question why i posted this was in one respect was to find out from my fellow and loyal Villa fans if they do not think that remarks of this nature are dettrimental to the club and it;s fans whom some have been loyal for many years.What i really want to know is your thoughts on wether or not these type of remarks being printed in the press and may i state the local press humiliate you and the club.I know it did me when i read them and thought why is a ex-player like Rodney Marsh and a darn good player in his day making such comments.As a great club like ours and it;s fans not being humiliated enough.

  5. Langfordvilla
    Langfordvilla January 10, 2014 at 9:01 pm . Reply

    Terry..to me, he is simply saying it the way it is. And yes, I do feel humiliated by the remarks. But we all know that the truth hurts. There is only one person that can change it…and that is Randy. Why he never took a more conservative approach to the cost cutting is beyond me. And we all know what happens to clubs who are continually flirting with relegation dont we. We are the new Wigan, except Wigan, at least played decent football!

    GIDDYVILLAN January 10, 2014 at 9:02 pm . Reply

    Telj im sure he’s not the first & won’t be the last mate,even you say we’ve been shite for ages.he obviously thinks the same about everton aswell they’ve been in the prem just aslong & achieved less.chill tel

  7. Naughtius Maximus
    Naughtius Maximus January 10, 2014 at 9:12 pm . Reply

    if you look at it objectively and take off ones villa glasses for a minute we are a team who have been finishing mid to lower each season and more recently involved in relgation battles under McLeish and last season and maybe this one too so therefore seeing us a club who are hanging on is understandable, putting us with the fulhams, Norwich, west ham type teams and these teams have been our nearest competitors the last few seasons, we are well in danger of playing the wigan Russian roulette along with these teams and being the type of team who is tipped for the drop(after the 3 promoted teams) at the start of the season and to be fair there’s isn’t much to argue against someone having that view.
    we would of course argue that we are in transition and making difficult descisions in order to come back stronger and more competitive and our seeming decline is merely a temporary effect of the bigger picture.
    of course we’ve been hearing this for a long time now and I struggle to keep the faith that it’ll come good eventually.
    by the way lambert had to buy a shit load of players with that forty mill not just 3 or 4, they must average about 4mil each.

  8. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones January 10, 2014 at 9:40 pm . Reply

    LANGDORDVILLA mate agree the truth does hurt but does Randy or Lambert care about the fans are they worried about us older fans feel.Have we not suffered enough now is it not time the fans were put at the front of their thoughts and they give something to smile about.No matter where i have been or traveled in the world i have always been proud to talk about the VILLA.but now where ever i go i hope that the conversation does not turn to football as i can only talk about our great history as i have no answers to people when they ask if why we are such a big club why are we not up with the so-called top 4 or not challenging them.Very sad time my friend very sad indeed.

  9. Colonius81
    Colonius81 January 10, 2014 at 9:53 pm . Reply

    What if rodney marsh said that sunderland will win the title or arsenal will finish 6th?

    what if said that the queen was really a man.

    my point is anyone can say anything.
    rodney marsh doesn’t carry enough weight as a figure in the game to humiliate me as a villan.

    I am not saying all is rosey down at VP.

    but i see us taking a particular course of action. starting a year and half ago.

    We have been in decline since before that but the current approach is still only a year and half into their approach.

    Furthermore .. its a different approach.
    it may fail
    its not looking great at the moment but neither is it dire.

    fulhams, sunderlands, wigans, west broms, southamptons west hams have all tried the spending patterns and tried and trusted routes that a lot of our fans are calling for..
    and honestly its really been a mixed bag of results.

    we have chopped and changed for probably 20 years now.

    so we cut back on wages, on transfers
    we shift the legacy high earners.
    we take risks on youth and on a young manager. and hopefully we add continuity and long term focus to it.

    its not foolproof
    it may not work but it has not failed yet. its very early on into it.
    and what is the alternative?

    these are the things that i base my hope on as a villa Fan

    Rodney marsh is a “pundit”
    A good player in his day i hear people say.

    It doesn’t make his opinion any more accurate than mine or yours at the end of the day

    You also need to take into consideration his agenda.

    he gets paid for his opinion.. the more controversial the better as far his bank balance is concerned.

    We just care about Villa.

    1. BWS
      BWS January 11, 2014 at 7:49 am . Reply

      I don’t think he does have an agenda (to be honest never been his biggest fan, all this not as good as in my day thing gets right on my tits) but he does speak his mind and is not prone to say things simply to court controversy, more likely he’s just telling it how he sees it.

  10. BWS
    BWS January 11, 2014 at 7:59 am . Reply

    Rodney Marsh was picked by him for England and in the team talk before the game and Alf told him all had to work harder.

    Sir Alf “Rodney you in particular, if you don’t work hard I’m going to pull you off at half time.”

    Marsh “Christ, at Man City all we get is a cup of tea and an orange.”


  11. wittonryan
    wittonryan January 11, 2014 at 8:04 am . Reply

    I would not say we are hangers on but we have had 3 relegation dog fights in a row ,but there are teams in the prem that have also been throw these patches in the time ,in the league, Spurs, Everton ,Westham ,all well known teams that have all been where we are now.

  12. Villan1
    Villan1 January 11, 2014 at 8:15 am . Reply

    We are the new Wigan, the team whose only ambition is to scrape survival. Call it hangers on if you like.
    And like Wigan eventually we’ll go down, might not be this season but sooner rather than later Aston Villa will be a struggling championship team at best thanks to the lack of ambition from board level and terrible management.

  13. Jay Dee
    Jay Dee January 11, 2014 at 8:39 am . Reply

    I don’t really care what Rodney Marsh has to say.Whoever fault it is it is shocking that we find ourselves buying shitty players from lower leagues.Lerner needs to put for a club of our size at least that 40 million each transfer window so he is a stingy Fucxxxr is Lerner.We cannot attract proper players anymore & are definately struggling t sign players.We are in a dire situation ATM even though we are 11…..UTV

  14. saddened
    saddened January 11, 2014 at 9:49 am . Reply

    Lack of ambition, awful manager, clueless CEO, absent owner & continuous relegation battles, this is not a blip, we are hangers on….. Wake up and smell the coffee !

  15. Naughtius Maximus
    Naughtius Maximus January 11, 2014 at 10:13 am . Reply

    ‘I don’t care about Rodney,
    he don’t care about me,
    all I care about,
    is AVFC!’ 🙂

  16. vaze
    vaze January 12, 2014 at 9:56 am . Reply

    He’s a washed up has been who was sacked from Sky for making inappropriate comments. I won’t be losing sleep over his thoughts.

    Just the other day he was telling all and sundry that he knew that Yaya Toure wanted to leave Citeh in the transfer window. That forced the player to state that in fact, quite the opposite, he was happy at the title chasing club.

    Take anything a Talkshyte presenter says with a bag of salt.

    Villa don’t garner positive headlines when we’re fighting for fourth or in a cup final, so we’re hardly going to receive compliments in midtable.

    As for all this constant Lamberk & Lerner out, the Villa is ours, what is the alternative ? I didn’t receive a reply last time I asked, I won’t hold my breath.

    I think that we’re top six in terms of spending under Lerner, so it must be the managerial appointments. I, like many was reasonably happy to get Lambert in as he had such an excellent track record in building and improving teams.

    I don’t have a solution myself, surely it has to be continuity at some stage. But I refrain from sheeplike baaing of ‘everyone out’.

  17. DSVilla
    DSVilla January 12, 2014 at 10:10 am . Reply

    Fantastic footballer but a nob as a pundit. Not interested in his opinion about Villa or anyone else. Have to agree with you Vaze. I don’t know whether we should stick or twist. Changing managers hasn’t done much for us the past few seasons. I suppose if we do it often enough we will get the right man in at some point. I’m not happy with things at Villa but it looks like Lambert is going to given time to turn things around so let’s hope he can.

    1. vaze
      vaze January 12, 2014 at 10:15 am . Reply

      I don’t think that anyone can be happy with the dross on display right now, but surely if this guy is bringing in the players he wants for the future, he is going to be the best bloke to manage them.

      Just a thought. I don’t think that we’re serious under investors, we just dug a bloody deep financial hole under MON chasing the lure of CL football.

      Can’t blame anyone for once bitten and all that.

  18. DSVilla
    DSVilla January 12, 2014 at 10:24 am . Reply

    Yep that’s my view too. My big worry is that Lerner has been put off to the point he has lost interest. I bought the family issues means having to be in America for a bit line, but this has gone on for so long now.

  19. Vaze
    Vaze January 12, 2014 at 10:39 am . Reply

    That is the concern.

    It’s one thing for blokes to post on the internet that millions should be spent, but sat around a board room table, it’s probably harder to sanction another hundred million to try and make up three or four places in the league.

    That is the reality, but the fan in me dreams we’ll be up there once again. Probably when the money runs out at Chelsea & Citeh.

    That may be a while lol !

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