Randy wants to sell, selling price £250M and £90M answer

Well some fun and games today and some journo’s printing a story Randy is looking to sell.  So today we had this unsual comment from Pat Murphy.

After reports in a tabloid newspaper that Aston Villa’s American owner Randy Lerner is prepared to sell the club for £200m, BBC Sport’s Pat Murphy tells BBC Radio 5 live: “Randy Lerner has treated that story with disdain.

“I have just spoken to Aston Villa’s chief executive Paul Faulkner; he says he has spoken to Lerner and the story is nonsense, there’s no truth in it.

“Faulkner says he speaks to Lerner three or four times a day and he watches every game, no matter where he is in the world.

“He (Faulkner) added that Lerner had put £250m into the club and has no intention of walking away.”

Now please note the last line …

that is a lie or something has changed … I think we have the answer to the £90M question.

Now Randy until the £90M had not put all the money in the trust did and that was around £90M …

Now it could be Randy has put the 90M in to pay off the trust debts.

Of course buying the club should not be included into this either so this is what I call an Ellisian lie/statement and for me Faulkner has just stated the selling price to everyone. The price is £250M and that will get Lerner some profit back because of the management fees and interest he has charged.

So if someone wants 25% of the club Randy wants £62.5M

Remember please that two months before he sold the Browns he also denied he was selling.

Game on in my view

Pat Murphy also claimed that Villa want to rebuild the North Stand, what on earth is that nonsense ? A monument to himself, the Randy Lerner Stand ?



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  1. adam2231
    adam2231 February 2, 2014 at 2:08 pm . Reply

    I can’t tell if Lerner seriously wants to sell, or if Journalists thought Lerner wanted to sell due to the lack of spending recently.

    I reckon if a serious offer comes in, one that would see the club ran as it is today. I reckon Lerner will sell, but until that happens he will do his best for the club.

    I expect money to be spent this summer, more than in previous seasons.

  2. Badger123
    Badger123 February 2, 2014 at 2:19 pm . Reply

    I’m totally confused Ian.
    How does “no intention of walking away” mean that the club’s up for sale?

    And why use such a cryptic comment when suggesting that the price is £250 mill, when he can just come out and say it outright if he’s looking to sell?

    I still fail to see what the £90 mill has to do with anything.
    And surely Randy is the trust anyway?

  3. Badger123
    Badger123 February 2, 2014 at 2:32 pm . Reply

    So you’re saying that the Trust money is totally seperate from Randy’s personal wealth?
    That’s not been my understanding of it, but if that’s the case, what you’re saying makes sense.
    I’m still not sure you would deny the club’s for sale though, unless there’s a deal in progress.

  4. nath
    nath February 2, 2014 at 2:34 pm . Reply

    this convo is as pointless as booting the ball back 2 opposition in less passes as possible.
    lerner has never shared his visions of plan villa. so don’t think he will start now.

    the 90 mill will be nothing 2 do with anything but moving debts around

  5. Langfordvilla
    Langfordvilla February 2, 2014 at 2:49 pm . Reply

    Fuck off Lerner, the Villa is OURS! Just fuck off, you spineless, lying, pennypinching, ignorant fuckwit. We need people with ambition and funds to stop this great club from stagnating. ‘Transitional period’ has run its full course…time to move on Randy, its simple, just fuck off, the Villa is OURS…your simply the temporary custodian. You have lost interest in us, likewise, we have lost respect for you. So just fuck off, the Villa is OURS.

    1. Colonius81
      Colonius81 February 2, 2014 at 4:11 pm . Reply

      party time now Langford! this should make you pretty happy if it was in any way true

  6. Pat "I'm never wrong" Murphy
    Pat "I'm never wrong" Murphy February 2, 2014 at 2:55 pm . Reply

    There is no smoke without fire.
    We spent nothing in January and we have a “long term project” in place with a manager who only has just over 1-year left on his contract.
    Bye, bye Randy and good riddance!

    1. Colonius81
      Colonius81 February 2, 2014 at 4:05 pm . Reply

      they are call dry ice machines .. and the tabloids use them to great effect honestly
      i don’t know whats funnier .. people beleiving a tabloid fluff piece or then believing the official clubs statement as a lie. the world is upside down!

      1. BWS
        BWS February 2, 2014 at 4:53 pm . Reply

        Lol brilliant reply Sir, I take my hat off to you.

  7. OriginalLondonLion
    OriginalLondonLion February 2, 2014 at 3:03 pm . Reply


    Tony was hero to Villans of my age. He seemed to have his own personal gravity, less than any centre half, because you would see him jump up before the defender – hover in the air, head the ball precisely where he wanted it to go and come back to earth after the centre half. In the precision of his heading Villa have had no equal since. It helped that Tony had a flat forehead, many of today’s black strikers have a very round skull which makes control far more difficult. Because his heading ability was so good Tony’s footwork was criticised by comparison, but he was no slouch and he improved that aspect of his game with different coaching at Chelsea.

    If you were at White Hart Lane for the 5-5 draw you would not forget it. Spurs were London’s best team, Villa’s away record wasn’t good so I travelled in hope rather than expectation. I bought a Villa rosette outside for luck. Ha! On a dusty pitch Hateley appeared in white boots, the looked like plimsolls but were probably tennis gear. Just after half time Villa were 5-1 down – I tore the rosette in half and dropped in on the terrace. The Spurs fan next to me commiserated but more goals seemed inevitable.

    Incredibly Hateley scored four goals all with his white boots and had then tucked a goal-bound shot under the keeper which kicked off the line by I think Joe Kinnear. The Spurs fan, a stranger, insisted on buying me a new rosette on the way home.

  8. Colonius81
    Colonius81 February 2, 2014 at 4:03 pm . Reply

    the lie within the lie!!!! the conspiracy continues..

    You hope Randy will sell and a sugar daddy comes along and restores Villa to the top a la the early 20th century or the early 80’s
    I understand this .. but putting your faith in tabloids … believing every public is a lie.
    it undermines credibility Ian.
    Also, if you don’t believe anything faulkner or lerner says.. why complain when they don’t say anything?

    back to reality for me. I will wait to see what happens in the summer.
    I think it will be a good assessment point and the summer spending or lack there of will indicate what the foreseeable plan is.

    1. BWS
      BWS February 2, 2014 at 4:56 pm . Reply

      It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma,

      1. Jeff Beck and Mick Ronson
        Jeff Beck and Mick Ronson February 3, 2014 at 11:40 pm . Reply

        Wrapped inside a kebab.

        1. Foxy
          Foxy February 4, 2014 at 8:36 am . Reply

          Chili sauce sir?

  9. nath
    nath February 2, 2014 at 5:00 pm . Reply

    facts wot facts u just said rumours when are rumours facts lmao

    I don’t see the urgency lerner spent loads ~ yes he has stopped wasting money but so would I av the way managers squandered the money. more pressing is the style which we are forced 2 endure. teams with far less budgets are actually playing football. some performances we av seen this season are rite out of the 80’s at plough lane

  10. Longboy
    Longboy February 2, 2014 at 5:00 pm . Reply

    It’s a little bit chicken and egg this. When RL brought the club only Chelsea had a sugar daddy and thus he thought he could probably compete!

    Move on 7-8 years and everyone has a new owner spending money like it is going out if fashion and his approach isn’t cutting it anymore! So not willing (or able) to spend massively what do you do……and I think sell the club and recoup his money is the answer!

    Tried, didn’t work out, hopefully someone else fancies a blast!


  11. Badger123
    Badger123 February 2, 2014 at 5:37 pm . Reply

    As much as I think that Lerner is past his time, who might come in (if indeed anybody does) has to be a worry.
    While Lerner is being a total skinflint, at least he isn’t asset-stripping the club is he?

    It could be out of the frying pan and into the fire.

    If indeed the club is up for sale, let’s hope he plays it the same way as Ellis and makes sure he only sells to someone who actually has the dough to buy it, as opposed to some massively leveraged consortium or similar.
    That’s about the only thing I did appreciate about Ellis, fwiw.

  12. villa4me
    villa4me February 2, 2014 at 6:23 pm . Reply

    As much as our current issues hurt and frustrate me, I think I much rather have lerner as the owner of our club.

    Lets be honest here, it doesn’t really matter who is to take over.. even if he had £400million to chuck at the playing squad, the likes of city, utd, Chelsea are that far ahead it would take all of that and probably more to catch them let alone compete with any further spending from them?

    If lerner wants to rebuild the north stand that’s great, it lets our wonderful stadium down to me…

    the premier league is not an even playing field anymore im afraid… it is my personal opinion its pointless even trying to compete with the top 6!!!

    HOWEVER.. how we spend the money we do have is a topic of discussion and also the way we play…. there is no way a 33 year old stk on loan from a team in the division below should be starting infront of a player whom the manager bought just a few months ago…

    we csn also discuss why Gary Gardner isn’t even getting on the bench and also not in the u21s?

    we have scored 7 goals in the last 3 games but we have also conceded 7 if im right!!!

    I really want lambert to succeed but im really struggling to stick with him at the minute

  13. Colonius81
    Colonius81 February 2, 2014 at 7:19 pm . Reply

    I am curious about gardener too. Although less so about Gardner versus helenius.
    Gardner is recovering from his second ACL injury .. he is a bigger lad and i can see where they may take this season to protect it or build him up more and more.
    anyways its enough to mitigate my confusion at his exclusion so far.
    I would still love to see him given a go before season ends

    Helenius though is more annoying for me .. he can probably learn from Holt as Lambert said but i am not sure he needs to. he played in a support role and support striker in denmark, would you teach the likes of albrighton or Bertrand or delph to hold the ball up or protect the ball with his body?.. horses for courses and from what i seen of him on youtube he strikes me as a football at his feet type player. not a get in amongst it target man.

    especially since both gabby and Benteke could perform that role already!

    #HELENIUS February 2, 2014 at 8:10 pm . Reply

    Helenius is a come deep to receive the ball and play football type player, far too advanced for us. Probably the reason he’s not playing is he’s no good at hoofball.

    1. Andrew
      Andrew February 2, 2014 at 9:18 pm . Reply

      Completely right, he’s not the get stuck in, kill a defender type. Playing football is his style and it’s pathetic Lambert’s trying to change him for the worse.

  15. Andrew
    Andrew February 2, 2014 at 11:37 pm . Reply

    Going around again that Lerner’s looking to sell… The naming rights to Villa Park to raise cash for the club (guessing this still has to do with the FFP rules that he wants to follow).

    1. Andrew
      Andrew February 2, 2014 at 11:40 pm . Reply

      Oh and revamping the North Stand.

  16. DSVilla
    DSVilla February 3, 2014 at 7:47 am . Reply

    Still don’t see any of this as meaning Lerner is selling. I guess the reality is if someone offers the right sum then he will sell. What he has done over the last couple of seasons has brought the club to the point that it is maybe break even. If it’s not sucking up large amounts of his cash he has no need to sell, but at the same time what is the point in owning a football club with no ambition other than to survive?

    Suppose he is prepared to sell at £250M. Anyone spending that would have to want to push for Top 4. That means you can add upwards of £100M to invest in players, plus covering big losses for at least a few seasons. That’s going to cost £400-500M. Does anyone really believe that will happen? I know I don’t.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath February 3, 2014 at 8:04 am . Reply

      Bad news looking to rename ground Ffs and develop north stand http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-not-put-up-6660175?

      1. ianrobo
        ianrobo February 3, 2014 at 10:59 am . Reply

        WHY ON EARTH would you develop the North stand when we only sell out 1/2 times a season now. The time to do that was in 2007-09 when we had regular sell outs and an average close to 40K.

        As for renaming the ground, who the hell would give us a large amount, we are not high profile or anything like that.

        If he does that, then I would be prepared to set up a new football club because Villa Park should ALWAYS be Villa Park and not bespoiled for some ugly dash for cash.

        Leave that to less classy teams than us.

        1. Langfordvilla
          Langfordvilla February 3, 2014 at 11:33 am . Reply

          Rename the ground…good lord, please let me die first. It was bad enough demolishing the wonderful and world renowned Trinity Road stand!
          Fuck off Lerner, and anyone else who want to change our name, ground or colours….simply, just fuck off, the Villa is OURS

  17. DSVilla
    DSVilla February 3, 2014 at 7:51 am . Reply

    One thing that does stand out in Faulkner’s statement though. “Lerner is not ACTIVELY looking to sell”. He could have said Lerner will not sell or is not going to sell. You could read the statement as saying “but if someone makes him a decent offer”

    1. Foxy
      Foxy February 3, 2014 at 8:20 am . Reply

      Everything is for sale at the right price!

      1. ianrobo
        ianrobo February 3, 2014 at 10:56 am . Reply

        and we have the price – £250M

        1. DSVilla
          DSVilla February 3, 2014 at 11:53 am . Reply

          And the queue to buy is 0 long!

  18. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones February 3, 2014 at 10:18 am . Reply

    Hi Ya Boys Daily Mirror now have it Randy Lerner willing to sell naming rights to Villa Park to raise money for club.

  19. nath
    nath February 3, 2014 at 12:27 pm . Reply

    iam bored aswell

    ian has his say ~ like his opinion are facts benitez style
    my mirror paper doesn’t say the same as terry jones claims his does
    also as ian claimed red bull wanted 2 buy villa they wouldn’t change villa park name or even the name aston ~villa

    basically this debate is nonsense until we know wot the fuck we are debating. iam more worried lambert see saturdays whimper performance as hard luck.he can he call that hard luck / we were lucky 2 be a goal up with only one attack most of game and below 30% of ball

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