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  1. anon3
    anon3 August 4, 2013 at 5:29 pm . Reply

    Nice one, SEB, it’s somewhat similar to how I’m feeling, in that while I’m not 100% convinced, I do feel like we’re on the up in that we’re a club with a vision and a plan.

    It’s perhaps more difficult to see when it’s your own club, but I remember Moyes going to Everton very well and recall them being revitalised, as an outsider looking in.

    Good post mate.

  2. Foxy
    Foxy August 4, 2013 at 8:46 pm . Reply

    They’re all getting better aren’t they? If Benteke, Wiemann, Westwood, Delph, Baker, Lowton and Guzan are this good after a season of essentially being dropped in it, imagine how good they’ll be with another season under their belts. And then there’s Moon, Okore, Sylla (who improved even at the end of last season), Tonev, Bacuna, Helenius and possibly Bowery too, and then Grealish, Carruthers, Donancian etc working their way into the senior squad. And if Gabby stays uninjured he should be hitting his stride now. Vlaar needs to prove himself and can rely on a more experienced defence alongside him. And not forgetting the management and owner for having the balls to let all this happen to his club. It’s all looking pretty good, better than it has for a long time.

    What I really hope is that we finish in the top ten and Beneteke wants to stay and be part of it all.

  3. Naughtius Maximus
    Naughtius Maximus August 5, 2013 at 5:22 am . Reply

    there are many similarities and I see the same thing happening at other clubs most notably Liverpool.
    with the lunacy going on in the transfer market the last few seasons and teams like £ity, cheklski, barca and real Madrid paying stupid money and wages clubs have to decide do they go that way(barca and real are milions of pounds in debt btw) or try and compete by doing something different. I would love to see other clubs challenging for the top 4 before the PL becomes just like the Spanish league, its one of the reasons why I was one of the few who didn’t wish to see Man £ity win the league 2 seasons ago. while it was fun to hear man utd fans all over the South east crying into their wine glasses I felt it was a bad sign for the PL and football in general to see a club buy their way to success.

  4. Sir Earl Barratt
    Sir Earl Barratt August 5, 2013 at 12:24 pm . Reply

    It’s obvious that we can’t compete financially woth the likes of City and neither do i wish them any success. However, that is not to say we can’t compete. One of the loudest critics of Moyes at Everton was the flying pig Neville Southall who claimed that lack of money was used as an excuse for failure. Our scouting system has to be much better than the ‘sky teams’ to ensure we are picking up the players now who in 3/5 years will be the £30m targets for chelski et al. It’s the Ajax way and is the only route we can follow. We should not accept a relegation scrap every year and should have high expectations of the coming season with a reguvinated side. Where Paul Lambert is sufferring is that he hasn’t got the luxury of feeding players in slowly – Joe Bennett was the prime example. he was exposed straight away when his Skill level and confidence hadn’t developed. I don’t believe he would’ve been as bad if he had been fed in against teams who we were beating perhaps.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 5, 2013 at 1:05 pm . Reply

      But how do we succeed if we have to keep selling players to the sky 4?

      1. Sir Earl Barratt
        Sir Earl Barratt August 5, 2013 at 4:31 pm . Reply

        You hope to be in a position whereby when you sell one for big money the next one is coming through. When you become more successful you hope to hang onto the players for longer. In effect you are cashing in on the sky 4s lazyness and reluctance to produce their own talent. I’ve been critical of the approach but this is obviously the route we are taking so i’ve had a bit of a u-turn. i am however, still convinced that Ron Vlaar is a liability so it hasn’t been a complete transformation!

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath August 5, 2013 at 4:58 pm . Reply

          Agree about vlaar let’s hope Okore and baker get a chance I don’t see how he can get better at 29 more likely to get worse.

  5. streetlyvillan
    streetlyvillan August 5, 2013 at 7:04 pm . Reply

    I think Moyes did a really good job at Everton and he got players who were good to play better – Cahill, Fellani, Baines, Howard to name a few. You’re right, we are doing exactly the same with Lowton, Westwood, Sylla and Benteke. If we can have three stable years like Everton (around 7th – 9th) I would be happy. Then we can push on from 2017 for 5th / 6th and if CL came along because we had a stellar season, that would be the dog’s bollocks!

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