Hi all and a happy new year to all of you at News and Views.
I really don’t know what to say anymore.The Villa is totally out of control and a laughing stock amongst our rivals.
Reason why it’s so funny to others is because we were once a massive club,but have become a fading light in recent years due to mismanagement.
I really don’t know why Randy Lerner is still in control its obvious he doesn’t know how to run a business or a once BIG football club.
My findings are that he just hasn’t employed football savvy people at the top and tried to cut corners by hiring office shirts and ties.The level of mismanagement is of a massively high extreme and for the life of me I don’t know why Randy Lerner sees it fit to do so.
Randy Lerner is a con merchant at best useless owner since his divource which could have had something to do with the turnaround in proper funding for a club of Villas size and past successes.
Until Lerner has gone our fate is sealed with a deadly kiss as relegation is a most likely event this season.The players arnt experienced and don’t have that rounded quality to keep a team in the premier league.I lost hope a long time ago as many of you know I was once an optimist but sadly have lost my light.
I feel sorry for the countless managers that have carried the can along with players to who have scapegoated Randy Lerner.
Our famous and glorious ones in the sky who can fault them NOBODY can loyal to the last and sing their hearts out for the lads who in my eyes can do no wrong.
Randy Lerner you great pretender you are a disgrace of a businessman and a disgrace of an owner of a club so distinguished and traditional as ours.Begone that man begone forever and take your friends with you The Villa Is and always will be ours.UTV.
Reports are suggesting Jackson is Emery’s top target and, allegedly, he wants to link up with Emery again – presumably…
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103 responses to “Lerner Out”
I don’t know about Lerner out, as I can’t see that happening until he’s ready.
I do think that there should at least be some sort of co-ordinated protests though.
The problem is, you can’t even take a banner down the ground these days.
Disgraceful, imo, but that’s how it is.
While we still see 38k turn up for games, I’m not even sure Lerner would listen anyway.
Still, let’s see what he thinks next season when those sort of figures plummet.
I am one of many who’s not giving the man a choice.If everyone grows a backbone then he has to see it somehow on social media.The more he sees the better.Reason why he doesn’t like banners is because he knows how bad he is and how the faithfull don’t give two hoots about bad pressing him.Give him as much bad publicity as we can I say.Lerner Out.
Hope this year is a good one for all .
Jay dee
Agree with a lot you say bar managers every one since houiller have only done one thing fill their bank account, but at a price McLeish can’t get a job bar bit commentating ,we all see how long Lambert lasts at Blackburn if he signs few stars like Bowery tonev helnius Luna
Lerner’s that cut off from villa for only when he realize that he is 100 m down next season that the penny drops saves pounds buying duds loses 100m in process
Part of me hopes we drop just so he gets stung the bastard UTV
It would be interesting to see the managers contracts especially Paul Lamberts. Any manager would be out of depth if they took over at Villa. The cycle of failure is apparent and Lerner is about to choke on his lack of investment.
The structure of the club is better than it has been but the wrong people are in place and the wrong owner is in charge. Other clubs run on a similar basis and are successful, of our signings i would say Amavi, Ayew and Veretout look the part the rest not so.
Lerner and Fox are failures and the recent league positions shows this.
We are doomed and if we get relegated which is probably very likely i cant see anyway back, our squad are not strong or determined enough and that failure i have mentioned is rife throughout the club and will not go until Lerner and Fox are gone.
How do you force him out gates reciepts dont count for much. If i hear from another manager how much he cares i will scream, if he cared we would not be getting relegatd this year, Lerner blatantly does not give a toss about AVFC and probaby never has.
On another note why are we rumoured to be linked with RB when we have a great one in Micah Richards
It looks like Illori is going back to Pool.
Another £1 mill (maybe plus wages) totally wasted.
Typical Villa under this regime, imo.
the damage done by lerner and his cronies will not be a five minute fix, i initially discounted collymores tweets but after thinking about it i don’t think it goes far enough by keeping mcandrews/MacDonald i think that’s where the start of the troubles stem from, we have a marvellous facility but there’s no style or pattern of play that comes out of there, a massive clear out required there are too many people in there comfort zones, and after the debacle of the last few years i don’t think anybody is safe, thing is what person is big enough to take on this massive project a Taylor or Atkinson doesn’t exist in today’s football
http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/sitepage.asp?a=7520029
I accidentally posted this on the previous thread. Hope you don’t mind guys. Very good article regarding the board process and how successive managers are just used to deflect the flak away from the owner and CEO. Lerner OUT!!!!!!!
Thanks for posting that Bum Bum – an excellent and well considered article which suggests above all that the Sky money is doing more to damage our game than improve it, not only here but across Europe and in World football considering England’s lack of recent success.
Of course businesses have to be financially managed but once they lose sight of the product and allow the burocrats (sp!) and bean counters to take control then it’s goodbye.
And so say all of us Jay Dee – well said.
Time for us as supporters to rise up out of our sandholes and scream Lerner down with anything we can its all we got left is our pride let’s not let Lerner take that eh boys VTID and all of that
The annoying thing is we all seen this coming, some didn’t want to believe it ,others started saying give it time it might go away, the thing is J Dee the inevitable happened, how many managers later? we found ways to blame most of them, all the time its been the boardroom come owner, tomorrow I hope news will come out of Villa Park that Lerner understands how much of his brainless idea’s went down the pan, and you know what? It will be to late he’s ruined the club full stop, we all know no player in his right mind would want to be made a fool of coming to us, good post Jay Dee , and like most Villa fans this is a kick in the teeth from a stupid Yank and I hope he gets bankrupt in the future.
Bill I agree sometimes we did blame the managers but every now and then we had a pop at Lerner to.Lerners destroyed the Villa with his flower pot man style of business management seems Cleveland Brown fans saw this coming to.What an absolute pile of steaming turd Lerner is watching the team go down the pan while he wallows in self pity over his personal life.Seems the Villa wasn’t or isn’t his responsibility since 2010 and left his plaything to others.It really makes me angry I hope it makes you angry to let’s just go after him anyway we can he’s destroying us let’s do our best to destroy him bedsheets anyone?
Sorry for going of track
What other business could afford to spend money on ilor not to use him he must be really crap if Hutton is better,same with kozak ,poor old john Doyle on other site really said how most feel about Lerner fox o Reilly almstad and if o Reilly took ilor to pool and now to us he is even worse judge of player than I thought possible
Looking ahead to tomorrows game, I would like to see Garde switch it up a bit and go for it.
Guzan
Richards Okore Lescott Cissokho (if fit, if not Bacuna)
Gana Sanchez (if not Gardner)
Traore Veretout Grealish
Gestede
Give him the job, can’t argue with that!!!
Another good read here;
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/high-attendances-can-no-longer-prevent-ground-breaking-relegation-of-big-clubs-a6793516.html
That’s why you have to do what you can to get your message across.Banning the Brigada in Lerners eyes stops him getting bad press and the crowds keep coming because they thinks nothing’s wrong.
After reading that can some body good with figures explain what Lerner done with cash
He paid 64m for villa that included villa park training ground squad of players including Sorenson Delaney bouma mellborg laursen Hughes Barry hendrie berger angel baros philips
12 good internationals plus didn’t deadly pay for petrov compare that squad to the donkies we have makes me cry so where did cash go
What has he improved on the upgrade villa park was put on ice
That side would smash our current side!
Lets protest to get a guy out who wants out who can’t get out until someone buys him out. That makes complete sense and would do far better for Villa and won’t make the fans look stupid… At all. Like not at all, no way.
Does he really want to sell? Or us fans could just sit there taking it up the rear and keep quiet. At least we could make our feelings known and perhaps accelerate the process, or at the very least pressure Lerner into paying a bit more bloody attention!
I know what I’d rather been seen doing. After all for evil to exist it only takes good men to do nothing…
Bum Bum; here’s the conundrum – whilst we are in the prem and Lerner’s raking in the cash (according to popular opinion on here) then why should he really try that hard to sell but when we get relegated and the cash dries up then he’ll try and dump us as quick as possible.
So – will he sell following relegation for a quick £100m to anybody who comes through the door with a wad of freshly minted notes?
Given the complete failure of the ‘fit and proper person test’ and the lunatic FFP rules then I say – Be afraid; be very afraid!
* will he try and dump us etc.
Hitchens, I’m sure I read somewhere – possibly a link from an article in the broadsheets – about how much in debt we are. Something to do with the funding and loans coming from the Lerner family trust. So whoever comes in is going to have to find the dough to buy the club and pay off the debt. Most of the owners nowadays, the glazers being the best example, just borrow against the club putting us into more debt. I’d imagine the land that BMH is on is worth a pretty penny. That’s why I worry for the future with and without Lerner. I certainly don’t think he’s ‘counting his cash’ as I don’t think he’s got that much. He’s probably crying at what an absolute sows ear he’s lumbered with – albeit of his own making. Either way, the only ones truly suffering are us. Only a couple of hours to our first defeat of the year. 80 years ago we were related from the top tier of football for the first time and Randy is marking our proud history by honouring that feat with another relegation. Happy anniversary chaps!
SEB – I’m pretty sure Lerner converted a substantial element of debt to equity which improves his tax position in disposal as the move increases the amount he paid for the club when set against any proceeds on sale. From memory I think he converted about £80m which means the club has now cost him £144m so a sale at that sum would not incur any tax liability. It’s one if the reasons why I think he was genuinely looking to sell. Not sure now though.
He’s counting his cash doesn’t care that’s obvious he’s letting villa rot otherwise he would of been spending freely over the last 5 year or so.We have to make a stand and embarrass the man show him up for what he has become or we do nothing and let Lerner count the cash,not give a shit while we watch
Not doing anything makes you look a spineless sheep who just likes to go along with it but that doesn’t matter no no way
It doesn’t make you look like sheep, in fact following the herd of “Lerner out” protests would make you look like a sheep. But that’s another argument about our wooly friends.
Lerner doesn’t want to be at Villa anymore, but out of every owner, he seems to have some morals and some care that he won’t sell to just anyone. Protesting against a guy who doesn’t want to be here and would sell if someone decent made an offer is absolutely pointless.
I’d like to see unified action and protests against Lerner and the EPL. They bleat on about the game being more popular than ever but how happy are the domestic fans? Fuck the shirt wearer’s in the Far East and Asia. Follow. Your own local teams.
As we’ve seen with FIFA, money talks. I’d like to see empty stadiums until the entire system changes, but that ain’t gonna happen. They’d just Photoshop the fans in like a PS4 game. I’d rather see the club implode than just make up the numbers.
Actions speak and so do voices time to get on it and say our piece VTID
That’s what its all about Bum bum, Jay Dee, Fifa, FA, have ruined our game years ago for their gains, the fans of our local teams have had to follow their ideas, gone the interest of British involvement against each other and English players, they changed the ideas of what clubs can do and not do, change the shop Windows on buying, foreign players coming over , who gets the rewards? FA.Fifa, who pays ? we do, Jay Dee I stood my ground on Villa in the 70s I can only not buy tickets, and merchandise and I’ve just done that. I hurt just like you Jay Dee but my days are numbered.
I like Benno’s lineup (apart from Guzan, but clearly all our other keepers must be completely shit to have not been given a chance). I’d like to see Gil and Ayew feature in there at some point too and possibly Sinclair as a 3rd impact sub in the last 20 minutes, as he only seems to be able to keep it going for that long.
We are probably going to need to win around half our remaining games to survive, which seems incredibly unlikely, considering we’ve only won one so far! However, if we could just tighten up that defence (which means Clark and Hutton should be nowhere in sight!), get a decent striker in (Remy will do), and play a couple of our flair players (instead of Richardson and Westwood!) I think it’s still possible. Whether any of these things will be actioned by Garde though is doubtful.
As much as the mess we are in is Lerners fault and the sooner he’s gone the better! It still doesn’t excuse the shower of shit we see week in week out. No hunger, no positive tactics, no desire, lack of concentration, no leadership. I could go on and on. That is simply down to the players and the manager(s). The sooner the squad is overhauled the better too. In my eyes the only option is to go down. Otherwise we will be in the same position again and again and again! And what’s the point in that?? In the hope that some sheikh will bail us out, well there is no chance of that. Going down is the only way to move forward now.
How is it stoke have champion league winners playing ,wba spend 15 m plus on players,since madness in year after Mon left in which splashed 50 m on duds Ireland makoun bent zog given Hutton Jena’s Lerner has not signed a player over9 m instead bought crap gave out new contracts to clowns,and another thing fox is money driven where are our new revenue stream exactly none no half decent name in business wants to be linked with our shambles
That’s why I fear relegation every team will want to put one over us Lerner discovers he is 100 m down on budget read somewhere he can’t pocket TV money next year or will put us in adminstration
Tom Fox has come out and said they’re are building something special. What a deluded twat.
Benteke having a stinker of a game today, comments are he’s to slow and its right.today’s game score 2-1 Sunderland.
I’m going 2-0 Mackems our only potential goal scorer is suspended for this game,at best a draw cus Sunderland didn’t turn up for it.fucking sad I say
Looking at the sequences then it has to be a win for Sunderland. Looking at the quality in our side it has to be a win for Sunderland.
My prediction the worst 0-0 bore draw in the history of the prem 🙂
Just lime the reversal of our record at Norwich, the same will happen today. A Black Cats win, nailed on. Our ongoing record is shameful.
Sunderland win today I have lost all faith in the team
FUCK me kozacks sub
Starting:
Brad Guzan
Leandro Bacuna
Alan Hutton
Joleon Lescott
Micah Richards
Carles Gil
Jack Grealish
Idrissa Gueye
Jordan Veretout
Rudy Gestede
Substitutes: Mark Bunn, Ciaran Clark, Jores Okore, Kieran Richardson, Scott Sinclair, Libor Kozák, Adama Traoré.
plus Cisshoko
makes 11
How fuckin stupid is Garde hes just said Sunderland dont concede many goals ,Jeff Stelling has just blown him out of the water and said Sunderland have conceded the most premiership goals 38.ffs
That smacks as a window sale to me. ?
1-3 Villa and everyone at VP will think it’s all rosy.
apologies hitc stitched me up