Lambert to stay, you surprised ?? Well as for ITK’s ….

So it appears the media have been given the wink to say that Lambert stays ‘until the club is sold”.

Well what else did you expect ?

Notice the form of the words, ‘until the club is sold’ … that is very short term isn’t it, not even an indication he will be here for pre season.

Did you really think that Lerner would spend his money on sacking him ?

Did you really expect Lambert to walk with no compensation ?

This situation is in many ways comparable to 2006 but no chance that Lerner is stupid enough to sack Lambert now. This does not mean that the club will not be sold, in fact quite the opposite. At no point the club are saying any deal is a way off, so just chill and relax. If by the middle of June we are not taken over then agreed,

PANIC

I have to mention here the forum names as TBAR. If you know of them they are just being total fools. In the form incarnation I posted ITK but always made clear it was and never to presume it would happen. Over on that forum they are saying it is all gospel and dragged a lot of sensible people into their web.

If you want a laugh go on there now ….

Fools.


Comments

270 responses to “Lambert to stay, you surprised ?? Well as for ITK’s ….”

  1. #HELENIUS avatar
    #HELENIUS

    Everone keeps blaming Lambert yet it’s Lerner who introduced wage caps and only gave £20m per season to buy an entire new squad, it’s him who told Lambert to freeze out and get rid of the high rollers….Whats a man to do, in the last couple seasons he’s found a few gems (amongst alot of crap) but you else can you expect when paying peanuts??? I agree his decison making can and has been utterly terrible for a large part.

    Lerners also reportedly now put a contract extension ban in place, so Albrighton will leave…..And Delph and Vlaar only have a year left.

    Lerner should have sold up 2 years ago, leaving it until now could potentially see us drop next season, especially with the peanuts Lambert will get to “strengthen” !!!!

    Many egotistical managers would have walked by now (like ONeill) Fair play to Lambert for sticking with it. He could quite easily walk into a top Championship or a lower Prem job but remains committed to the team.

    1. Bum Bum avatar
      Bum Bum

      “Many egotistical managers would have walked”, what about those with a hint of realism and self respect? If Lambert has been paid a big bonus to stay, he does so at a massive risk to his reputation, never mind health.

    2. steve avatar

      The only things i have against Lambert are:
      Players out of position e.g weimann out wide, albrighton central midfield
      Buying cheap foreigners opposed to bringing through our own, Burke , carruthers could have been given a chance.
      After 2 years an appalling defence
      poor / late substitutions
      Long ball game
      Crap football
      Worst home record in our history
      lost 7 of our last 9 games
      and shit post match interviews. – “we go again”
      give me another 10 minutes i’m sure i can think of more.

      1. Bum Bum avatar
        Bum Bum

        A fine post my friend.

      2. Couldn’t have said it better,

  2. I don’t think anyone’s banging the door down for Lamberts Services plus he ain’t going anywhere due to financial reasons so I’d ease off singing his praises. We’re his best option atm.

  3. DSVilla avatar
    DSVilla

    Its a two way thing. As things stand I don’t see any way we could attract a half decent manager if Lambert was either fired or left voluntarily. Given that he is selling, Lerner is not going to throw more money away getting rid of Lambert (particularly since he realises that it is down to his cost saving measures that we are in the predicament we are in).

    Would it really be the “honourable thing” for Lambert to resign? Given the above where would that leave us? Would he get another job? Probably given previous successes.

    Things will only change when Lerner sells. I don’t think it’s imminent, but I don’t know any better than anyone else.

    The majority on here want Lerner to sell up. He has committed to that so why is there such discontent on here? What you are witnessing is simply proof that there are not enough willing buyers out there with the cash to do it properly. We are more likely to end up with a buyer who is looking to make money by keeping costs tight or selling somewhere down the line for a profit (or both). Wishing for a multi billionaire sugar daddy is asking to be disappointed.

    What we have seen over the past three seasons is not good enough. The best I think we could have hoped for was that Lerner had restored the financial state of the club, finally chose the right management team and financed a reasonable investment in players. I would like to hope that he will sell quickly to a decent owner, but I just don’t really believe it.

    1. DS you’re are right but the only problem with your comment of “finally chose the right management team and financed a reasonable investment in players” is even given that series of events did becoming a reality, give it one good season and the SKY 4/5 would be hovering over us like vultures and then picking off one by one any decent players you’ve unearthed.
      Oh the joys of the modern game.

      1. DSVilla avatar
        DSVilla

        Dispiriting isn’t it? Southampton have that issue I guess. They have produced some top players through their academy system over the years but they all tend to leave. Lallana and Shaw probably on their way soon. Without a billionaire sponsor its hard to see the way forward for a team like Villa. To be blunt we are also rans, but we as fans can’t accept that.

        That’s ultimately why I try not to be too hard on Lerner. He gave it his best and only shot but we fell short. The same could be said for Lambert. He has disappointed me as I expected more, yet at the same time I sympathise with him as he has (presumably) not been able to use our big earners. I expected him to be bolder, and some players haven’t been given a chance. I guess that’s difficult when you are under continual pressure. Even so I think we should have been more comfortable than we have been.

    2. Colonius81 avatar
      Colonius81

      Absolutely agree with that, i compared us wanting the billionaire owner who throws money at it hand over fist to winning the lotto, because honestly when you look at it in pure numbers, how many billionaires with the will to do that are actually out there, the lotto odds are 1 in 13m – I’d say considering there are 7bn people on earth?
      We have to be patient i am afraid … And lucky too
      It’s why the demands and abuse f i Lerner and lambert doesn’t sit well with me – if they failed to get. Ills back to the top – then we are no worse Han the other 15 also rans of the prem

      1. DSVilla avatar
        DSVilla

        Yep I’m in the same camp Colonius. I understand the frustration though. It’s difficult to be philosophical about such an emotional attachment.

        1. Colonius81 avatar
          Colonius81

          oh i hear ya, and there lets face it this is a purely unquantifiable love of a football club, its not meant to make sense, plus Venting is a big part of being a football fan.
          I get that, I will still post in the vein that i do, ie trying to counteract the absolutism, sensationalism, vitriolic or personalised abuse etc if for no other reason than to bring a bit of balance to the scene. It is absolutely my position mind, i am not doing it for the sake of it. but considering its not the popular consensus there is even more need for it.
          if i was a fruit i would be the devils avocado.

  4. because ppl like 2 blame someone ~ lamberts the guy who faces the cameras and all he has been is a puppet of the clubs demise, lambert walks away, you wouldn’t get a stop gap manager 2 step in. all would happen is gordan cowans would take over, then how long be before oohah starts ripping into a cult hero. cowans isn’t a manager not all great players make great managers, might be a good coach or one day a manager. but villa are in a rite mess, would it be the ideal thing 2 av a novice manager, in wots gonna be a important season.

    1. Bum Bum avatar
      Bum Bum

      I think if Cowans would have been up to the job, he’d have taken it by now. And that’s no insult to the legend. Some are just not cut out for management, I think you need a nasty streak and Gordon seems like a lovely bloke. But this ia one shit pit we find ourselves in.

      1. correct bum bum ur absolutely correct love him we all do, but hes been coaching the youth only involvement with any 1st team was end of last year, its a big big ask to ask him 2 steer a rudderless ship,
        hate him most do but lambert is the best man 2 steer us, until the clubs sold maybe his contracts ends before were sold . who knows

        1. Bum Bum avatar
          Bum Bum

          I’d rather see Justin from CBeebies manage us than that fool. Penniless or not.

          1. Bum Bum avatar
            Bum Bum

            Fool = Lambert btw.

          2. Or mr tumble

          3. unfortunately i have no idea who justin is, will he work for peanuts???
            funny how majority of villa fans don’t rate the job lamberts done, when clearly football pundits will tell you, how well hes done with no help from owner no funds to improve a terrible squad before he arrived.( they are paid to express their opinions and most av actually played or managed in the GAME)

            the scot before lambert finished 16th hey thats improvement on were lambert finished in his 2 seasons , the scot before lambert bought n’zog for 10 million i believe this is miles more than lambert highest signing. as for wages no comparison ~ lamberts generally has signed players well less than 30k only improved deals for benteke come close to this, look at given /mutton and nzog these 3 alone not including the others all above lamberts signings,

            i have no doubts when he walks away, his career will continue to improve, worst decision hes made was joining villa. anyways iam glad he kept us up last 2seasons with a talentless squad and little money to change much

          4. also while iam on a roll, no way will a sugar daddy rescue us, chances on this is bleaker than villa winning the league again using l4 players and no foreign players

            how many season tickets will it take to cover darren bent 3 million wages, reported hes earns for his last 12 months, seems like villa has been mismanaged for years dunnit

          5. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
            OohAhPaulMcGrath

            I wish lamberk would stop saying he us no quitter Ffs. Paul you are only still here because Lerner can’t afford to pay you off and no one else would come to vp at the mo. You won’t quit because you will lose a big pay out simples. If and when we get a new owner they will get rid of you simply because you are a waste of space. No one else will employ you in the prem either so shut the fuck up

          6. ur funny as fuck oohah 🙂 can’t understand ur points of views, ur medicine needs 2b upped, as for lambert not finding another, love 2 take that bet of you cos he will do better than we will in the next 20years

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
              OohAhPaulMcGrath

              MON and mcleish who are both better struggled. He will prob get a job in the championship or Newley promoted at best and I think he’s under qualified even for that tbh. Prob end up managing a little team in Saudi like dol

          7. when i was younger the expression sleeping giants was commonly used for clubs with proud history, massive fan base, that have hit hard times and fall gracefully first down the league then divisions, that is wot aston villa are and next chapter is relegation

            i mean writing on the wall, 2 years this has been going on, not months lerner reduced the wages, 70 mill tv money gone were. most teams get relegated then reduce wages, remember 200 mill he wants but if he reduces the wages enough 70 mill will reduce he price for overall sale.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
              OohAhPaulMcGrath

              Lerner will stay as long as he gets his 70 m plus sky money. I’m not convinced we are up for sale tbh it’s just lip service to keep us underlings from questioning him and to support lamberk without abusing him

  5. F**king harsh that Oohah, mind you not too far wide of the mark but harsh.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Lol harsh but true BWS

  6. Saddened avatar
    Saddened

    18,000 season tickets just to pay Darren Bent, Hutton and Givens wages what cloud was Faulkner and Lerner on…. This shit has gone on far before Lambert arrived, I don’t like him but who else would take his place if we lobbed him….who would come when we have these two idiots anywhere near in charge…. Lerner is selling because his Mrs fleeced him, Oneil fleeced him, McCleish fleeced him and now he has thrown his dummy out of the pram…..
    We had a consortium interested and Lerner tried to play his poker hand….. And they pulled out…. He just isn’t a great businessman….. Think we are in for a very turbulent year or two… !

    1. Why not give bent another go what have we got to lose nobody will buy him. 4 million for someone of his ability what a joke.

      1. i agree bent and hutton, need 2 sweat blood, nobody buys them after pre season, we need 2work um,if they are needed play um, fooking paying um for nothing. get some midfielders loaned in,we av a fighting chance

    2. that means the average 20k season tickets villa sell usually, only cover 3 players. that’s dire

      1. Saddened avatar
        Saddened

        Nath frightening isn’t it and Faulkners strengths are his ability as an accountant you could not make it up…

        We cannot just not play players because the club decided to pay them too much …. Bent and Benteke playing somehow together, most teams in the premiership would not like to play against those pair.

        1. i fear his abacus my have loss some beads, we should have a whip round for him, if bent, hutton and nzog are fit and not sold before startof nxt season. it would be crazy not 2 play um. you can see why bent is lazy, hutton is pants and nzog i aven’t a clue why lambert refuses 2 play him, last season creatively we were clueless

        2. Colonius81 avatar
          Colonius81

          erm .. is math being totally abandoned here? or just realism
          Are you stating that you believe our CEO/owner are incompetent because the cost of three players they sanctioned* will be the equivalent of 20,000 season tickets?

          so tell me genius executive performance analysts, how many season tickets do Man city, liverpool, totenham, chelsea, et al need to sell to cover Rooneys 300k a week? toures, 210k a week? what about suarez’ 140k+ a week? not to mention adebayors 100k + a week ? that is one player from each of those teams,

          Is the massive sense of frustration and complaints on here because our owner has not spent more? yet .. he and his CEO are asked what cloud they are on?
          the fact that we have one of the cheapest tickets price in the prem – is that forgotten?
          ask an arsenal fan about how happy they are this season up to the point of their FA cup win about their ticket price!

          em what cloud are yeo n lads?

          1. well i hoped some1 would point this out, because some fans like oohah stated his money will not be going to lerner, no season ticket for him, well off course, i thought to myself this might push lerner over the cliff, losing his oohah custom

            70 million tv money should mean cheaper season tickets but greed is a evil commodity, i asked a question as i was curious, to how many season tickets would be need just 2 cover bents overpaid wages for his last year, i simply sew the seeds, under no sentences did i state season tickets cover wages,

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
              OohAhPaulMcGrath

              I am but one person so Lerner won’t give a toss however there are at least 20 of my mates who take their families, buy the merchandise, the pies, programmes etc that won’t be renewing. So possibly £20-30k lost there. They also have friend and people who work with them that have took the stance. Of course 20, 30, 40k is peanuts for learner. But at least it’s a start. The only mate I know who has renewed has only done so as st seats has been in her family for generations. So she feels obligated. But she probably won’t go to many matches as she just dosnt enjoy it anymore.

          2. Saddened avatar
            Saddened

            Sorry Colonius had to cut through the sarcasm to realise you must have been at the cooking brandy…. Not to realise how awful the purchasing decisions this club has taken, then compare us to top 5 teams wow… we’ve spent above our means due to a naivety shown by our Owner and CEO, I want a sensibly run club nothing else.

            I really do think if our purchases would have been wiser over the last 5 years I don’t believe we would be in the scary position we are now….

          3. Colonius81 avatar
            Colonius81

            ha my tatstes aren’t as sophisticated as cooking brandy Saddened, white spirits, with a bit of vanilla extract usually does me.

            but no seriously i see complaints of how badly we spent in relation to our revenue stream?
            Am I wrong in saying that one of the biggist cirticims of lerner is that he hasn’t spent enough? that he doesn’t have the money to propel us into the top tier again?

            so to see accusations of lerner spending too much on players is a complete volte face!
            somewhat inconsistent with the previous cirticism.
            and tell honestly, what club does not overpay players? what club does not overpay on transfer fees? and what club doesn’t have at least one dud a season?
            people talk about southampton etc as the target,
            they spent close to 15m on osvaldo’s 3 goals and half a season

            sorry not enough money, yes, poor football decisions yes, managerial appointments gone wrong .. all grounds for criticism …
            Not spending enough and not spending wisely on the players we have signed?

            nope .. someone will have provide further argument on that because thats total shite in my opinion

          4. Yes they are amongst the cheapest tickets but the disparity apart form the London clubs and Liverpool is not that great.
            Man U seasons (12/13) ranged from £532 – £950, Man C £425 – £745, Chelsea £595 – £1,250.
            Take into account the quality of the product there are getting compared to the dross being dished up at VP for the past 4 seasons it hardly seems worthy of a post on hotukdeals.com.

    3. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Agree I think this is it now for at least a couple of years. Though thinking about how much money I’d save not going for a couple of years cheers me up a bit 🙂

  7. steve avatar

    This is all starting to look a bit staged.
    Lerner isn’t thick he knows that with no investment the club is stuffed and he ultimaterly loses out.
    Lambert by sticking around and bleating about how tough it is going to be wins the sympathy vote and districts away from how bad a manager he is. When he came in it was he who said young and angry , build for the future not Lerner. Now after 2 years these players are 2 years older and he wants to rebuild again.
    The club is going to be sold soon. It has to be.

    1. it was more a case of to meet wage budgets set by i don’t know LERNER, he said he needs more experience, isn’t backing out of his principles he simply means 2 or 3 not a squad full of 50k players he means 2 or 3 three i think, hard to do last season or season before has their were already ppl like ireland and others taking up such funds

      hate 2 remind you but lamberts reduced wages almost, SO DEBTS av stopped increasing and reducing,this was under lerner restraints NOT by lamberts lack of ambition

      1. steve avatar

        Why is Lambert being credit for reducing the wage bill.
        Who has Lambert actually got rid of. The only players that have gone are those whose contract had either expired or nearing the end. Most of the big earners who were there before him are still there now. given, hutton, bent, Nzogbia. He tried to bomb them out and failed. If they were on the payrole why not play them for there experience and put them in the shop window at the same time.
        I don’t see how lambert has reduced the wage bill. He has been told the wage constraints and worked within them.
        My only gripe with Lambert is i just don’t think he is very good as a football manager. This is backed up by watching us for the last season.

        1. ireland,beye collins dunne lichie, warnock, bannan makoun holman ~ he hasn’t been credited by nobody especially by villa fans. these are just a handful, iam sure there maybe more, but hard to assemble a squad of young players and some hardcore experience when ur told to reduce more.

          only time will tell if most fans are rite about lambert ~12 months or quicker if a miracle happens and some diffusional sugardaddy buys us. lambert will go and we all will see, excuses for last 2 seasons its lambert / we have been shit for 4 or 5 even 6 season so wots the reasons for these wasted fruitless years

          1. sidwell

          2. garry thompson

          3. dider six

          4. sava missalotavic

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Agree Steve and line I say earlier if Lerner has put us up for sale which I doubt it is just a ruse to keep the status quo without the fans hassling the regime

  8. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    Where’s that old voice of sanity Juan Pablo Anus when u need him? He was a spiteful old queen!!!

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Not seen him on here for months

  9. Bencey83 avatar
    Bencey83

    Albrighton and Delfouneso are gone then. Is this an indication that Lerner is not prepared to renew any contracts at the moment?

  10. Bencey83 avatar
    Bencey83

    I personally would have kept Albrighton, as he offers us a good wide option – something which we are otherwise lacking. If Lerner isn’t able to sell soon and we’re letting people go, this is very worrying. How likely is he to spend on new recruits? We could find ourselves with a worse squad than last season, in which case I can see us finishing bottom of the league.

    1. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

      totally worried , if your losing mark albrighton on free to leicester (probably ) then alarm bells are sounding. unless the players left, raise their game its nailed on relegation fight.

      1. Come on lads, Albrighton was very average at Leicester, and he didn’t set the world on fire the last few games. Surely we’d have won some ?

        I he wants £35k per week, and the Foxes will pay it, let him go.

        Lambert obviously feels he can sell/play N’Zogbia or bring someone else in.

        Delph going and not being replaced would be a concern, Albrighton was never quite good enough, though I wish him well.

  11. Delph next ??????????????

  12. Some reasoned debate.

    It is interesting to read the views of those that take a realistic view and look at what was attempted in hindsight, the reasons that it failed so miserably, and those that just want change as they don’t like it.

    Maybe with the funding that Lerner offered in those first heady couple or three seasons, a better manager building for the long term, or even able to build a team/squad that could last a full campaign we could have cracked the Sky four.

    Little or Gregory would have been interesting managers with that sort of backing. Even Ron if he could buy below thirty year olds lol !

    Would GT Mark I have been an ideal candidate for a five year plan with huge backing ?

    I am fairly pessimistic about the immediate future, I don’t think that we are top of the tree of attractive available clubs, and I worry about even £200m for Lerner to cut loose, never mind £300m+ to break even as being too much for us.

    The club is going to have to be self-sufficient, and pay for itself. Is that really so unreasonable ? I know it doesn’t meet the modern football fan’s model.

    This forum can be fairly amusing, think my favourite post this week was the one asking where Lerner had put all the Sky money and gate receipts of the last few years. With a wage bill topping £86m+ per season, you’d hope that lad doesn’t do the housekeeping lol !

    When you look at those sorts of figures, ‘giving Lerner my season ticket money’ or not doesn’t make much odds, so I may as well get down VP and see in person how it all pans out. Old habits and all that lol !!!

    My greatest concern is that we get one of these horrendous Chairman that we’ve seen at Leeds, Hull, Cardiff, Blose, etc.

    I honestly think that Randy genuinely wanted to do well for us, he just wasn’t up to the grade. It’s why I find it difficult to ‘hate’ the bloke. Feel quite sorry for him really.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      He wanted to do well initially but put he faith in the wrong man in MON. But that is Lerner’s fault for not doing his due dilligence and not surrounding himself with football people. Once city and spurs got their act together that was the beginning of the end for us. Mon had one big chance of a lifetime to crack the top 4 and he blew it big time. £120m 5-6 years ago was more than enough to get us there. Lerner saw the light too late and believed to much in MON the myth. He couldn’t even improve Sunderland ffs when Bruce went.

    2. Ardent Villain avatar
      Ardent Villain

      Have suspected for a long time that Lerner, like many who inherit a lot of wealth, isn’t exactly a brilliant businessman, and certainly not an ‘entrepreneur’ , as some of the media like to describe him.

      He may have had good intentions when he took over, but was completely naïve about what it would take to make any big impact in ‘soccer’ – even when the richest competitor was ‘only’ Abramovitch, i.e. before the oil money went to Mancs. The financial activity [or waste] at the club in the first 3 or 4 years doesn’t say a lot for his financial advisors, either.

      We have a ‘nice-but-dim’ owner, who’s personal or family wealth get’s a big hit in the banking crash, not to mention divorce, and so on. Then he realised that he couldn’t compete, and has spent the last three years desperately trying to cut costs – and has finally decided that he really can’t afford to blow any more money on a hobby that doesn’t produce anything but demands for more and more ‘investment’ each season just to stand still…

      So there’s certainly no reason to ‘hate’ the guy – yet : from my POV that will only happen if he now disposes of the club to some half-baked fraud like Carson Yeung, or some other nutter /asset stripper with no appreciation of what a football club means to its fans [Cardiff/Hull spring to mind].

  13. Astonb6 avatar
    Astonb6

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27485242
    Have a listen to this on the 3rd minute does lambert let the cat out the bag do you think?

    1. Inaudible mumbling twat hard to get the jist.

      1. Astonb6 avatar
        Astonb6

        He says “the new people understand the situation”

        1. Andrew avatar

          I swear he said no one understands the situation. Gosh I wish he didn’t mumble.

        2. Cheers B6 that’s obviously part of the conversation where it was an intense mumble.

          1. Astonb6 avatar
            Astonb6

            How the fuck can he motivate players mumbling shit like that ??

      2. People knew? New? No? F**k knows. I’m with Giddy, can’t understand a f**king word.

        1. I’m glad it’s not just me mate.

    2. Andrew avatar

      All I got was he wants better players, he wouldn’t really answer if he’d get them or not, just that we need em, and there’s nothing imminent. I think… I’ll wait for an English version to come out.

      1. i tell you lambert is concerned, you can hear it in his voice, i hate 2b a doom~monger but i think we are in the shit,

        1. Andrew avatar

          Of course he’s concerned. It’s his job to manage the team and he could very well be in the shit after this coming season if he’s here/we don’t sell.

          1. i didn’t get that andrew, i got hes worried the state the clubs in, hes gonna have to beg borrow and maybe steal to hire new players , even groundstaff may get a game

          2. Andrew avatar

            Got that part too. But I do think he realizes if what you said doesn’t happen, what I said will happen.

        2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
          OohAhPaulMcGrath

          Who cares worse thing that can happen is we go down…so what. People are starving in 3rd world countries and we are worried about a team of overpaid dross with a mumbling manager not doing well next season. Who gives a fuck? Not me anymore!!

          1. Colonius81 avatar
            Colonius81

            I will believe you oohaah if i don’t see another irate post with targeted abuse of villa staff!

  14. I don’t do your fucking homework before making a huge commitment.

  15. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/01/premier-league-club-accounts-debt-wages

    this is last seasons, u can see wages are massive even thou we av no team and this was least season accounts this season must be miles healthier yet more cuts

    1. according to this we have the 3rd worse debts, 190 million lmao someone has been totally having a laugh on our accounts literally, did they leave the lights on, thats gotta be wrong lerner will have no chance selling for 200million leaving debts of same figures and a squad needing another 200million ~ we are in for a rough time ahead

  16. oohah don’t talk shit mcliesh won 7 games in one whole season, that is the worst manager we had then dr venglos then i don’t giveAshit

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      But he still got the same/more points than lamberk. Are you seriously telling me that lamberk is better than mclown. They are about the same at best but mclown not given a fair chance like lamberk just coz he managed small Heath. Pathetic. That guy could of won us the treble and most fans would still want him out. An easy target Nath.

      1. look am more interested in worrying about the villa than 2 argue who worse, i look on how much mcliesh had more wages for players spent more on trafers fees finished with 38 points lambert first season 41 points and this season with injuries galore he finished with 38 so if u wanna call it a draw they are both shit endoff

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Btw Venglos was ahead of his time if we had him 5 yrs later he would of done ok. But English players in them days didn’t want to know.

      1. Tekkers48 avatar
        Tekkers48

        Agree with you there Ooh Ah. I read somewhere that he changed the menu to pasta dishes and stuff like that where they were eating pie and chips beforehand. The man was just ahead of his time.

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
          OohAhPaulMcGrath

          Yes he was Tekkers. Like I say 4-5 years later he would of been great for us when the prem started. Even wenger had problems with the arsenal team he inherited with Merson, Adams etc all on the pop and players still going out getting 10 pints down them the day before kick off. Once he started bringing in players like bergamp etc the English players saw what good shape foreigners were in and realised they needed to shape up to compete.

  17. Andrew avatar

    Quote from Paul Lambert from the 25th of April 2014

    “Paul Faulkner has spoken to his agent a couple of weeks back. Marc’s relaxed and he will be fine, he’ll be all right. It will get done.”

    Lambert added: “He has been great and is on top of his game at the moment.”

    1. If he’s released Albrighton then surely nzogbia will feature next year ?!?

      1. Andrew avatar

        Doubt it, can only see N’Zogbia leaving as well.

        1. Andrew avatar

          Birmingham Mail has claimed N’Zogbia, Bent and Hutton could all make a return to the first team next season. Lambert claims everyone’s on a level playing field in the squad, and it’s claimed Lerner’s the one who wanted an end to the bomb squad philosophy. There were claims Lerner also disliked Lambert’s want for 15 new players. Also claims Robinson and Donacien, out of contract this summer, have been offered 2 year contracts. At least that’s good.

          1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
            OohAhPaulMcGrath

            like the bomb squad are really going to play for that twat!!

          2. Andrew avatar

            Nor would I blame them if they didn’t.

  18. He will be back to haunt us! Garanteed

  19. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/01/premier-league-club-accounts-debt-wages

    this site states we are 190 million in debt / this is last season accounts / can someone explain even if lerner waved a wand ~ how can he expect 200 million for a club 200 million in debt, truth i feel is we are in the shit, 400mill and more needed 2 spend on a squad depleted of quality, like lambert said were in a league that you need to spend to stand still.

    1. We have had far lower wages this season, much greater revenue, and £100m or so was converted to shares.

      Therefore, there will now be very little debt, as such.

      Chelsea £1bn in the red. Thereby hangs a tale, and Citeh just have a Sheikh who was happy to burn over £1bn.

      The football world has gone mad ! How much will Chelsea have to charge for caviar and jellied eels at halftime to get that back lol ?!?

  20. Andrew avatar

    Haven’t found the article, but someone on facebook claims the Guardian reported Lambert’s set to bring Hutton and Bent back into the mix.

    We’re also linked to Shaun Wright Phillips on a free though wages a problem. Joy.

    1. It could be worse we could have to rebuild the whole squad like Albion or be blues.

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Here’s an article to give everyone a chuckle Lamberk saying that fans will still buy STs and merchandise in their droves even though he sells MA because he can’t incorporate him into his tactics. This guy is a complete buffoon and obviously thinks supporters are stupid enough to put up with any old shit. http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/713911148?-11177:843

      1. Andrew avatar

        Another thing that pisses me off. While I have no doubt fans will buy season tickets and merchandise, to back the players, certainly not him, but the players, as it’s not their fault Lambert’s still here, it’s not their fault Villa won’t spend money and it’s not their fault we haven’t been sold yet. But he almost talks like Villa fans are only fans if they buy and cheer for him. He’s never said it, but every single interview before games he claims Villa fans need to be loud, and need to be cheering, and supportive, which is all Villa fans have really been. Obviously ticket sales won’t be near what Villa probably were when Lambert first came, because I’d say a majority want him gone, but I do see fans buying them. Doesn’t make the fans stupid though.

        1. steve avatar

          I think most fans have a certain threshold of pain that once crossed they just give up and stop going. Obviously each fan has a different level. Friends that i had been going to the the games with for many a year have gradually stopped over the last 3 seasons. There are only 2 of us left now and we both have decided that we would like to something positive happen with the club this summer before renewing.
          I renewed last year because it looked like Lambert might be onto something as the team team seemed to gel towards the end of that season. However this season has just been dreadful.
          I’m sure i’m not alone on matchdays lately not really looking forward to the game (its an effort to go) and then coming home thinking there must be more to life than this.
          My friends who stopped going all tell me they don’t miss going and to some they prefer watching a lot of the games in the pub with a beer. Less time out of the day and a lot cheaper.
          I have been going to the villa since 1976 and as it stands i have finally reached my threshold. So Mr Lambert as it stands my friend and I won’t be part of the droves you are expecting to renew.

          1. Bum Bum avatar
            Bum Bum

            Same here. Lambert is bloody deluded. If it keeps up like this for another half a dozen years the place will struggle to get 10k in.
            Does Lambert really think because that fool Lerner has finally made public what we all knew, we’ll just follow blindly until the club is sold, which let’s face it, could take years and years.

          2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
            OohAhPaulMcGrath

            Good post Steve I think more and more fans are thinking that way. Iv been going to VP since div 3 days but never have I felt so pissed of as I do now. My threshold is reached iv had enough. Last season I didn’t even look forward to going to vp it was becoming a chore rather than an enjoying day out. When that starts happening its time to stop going. Also like you say more and more pubs by me are showing most villa home and away games it’s so much easier just walk down their have a coffee (teetototal) watch the game and walk home. At least if we play shit I havnt had to pay a small fortune to see it, no parking, no petrol, no jams to get away from ground, no rip of food and programmes saves me a fortune. And now a lot of my mates who arnt renewing will be coming with me next season so that will still be a good laugh and atmosphere. Having said that since February I can’t even be bothered to walk down to pub to watch our games home and away which says it all.

          3. Steve that sums me up to a tee, our choice now, let others carry the burden and get robbed, Nath before you come back on that remark of mine, remember, been there and done it hundred of times if you can carry on with Villa as it is , good on ya, I’ve had enough.

        2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
          OohAhPaulMcGrath

          the players are to blame as well andrew for playing like a bunch of tossers with no direction. Sometimes the players have to think for themselves its not all the managers fault though he hasnt helped granted. As for the fans that buy sts more fool them as they are still supporting this regime. their money their choice at least i wont be wasting my hard earned this year

          1. I agree ooha the players must be held responsible for SHITE performances ie gabby to me stands out aswell as weimann.they know the job they’ve got to do,its not the manager telling them to perform SHITE.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
              OohAhPaulMcGrath

              Spot on giddy. When I played admittedly a long time ago and a lower level the manager picked the team but when things didn’t go our way we had to think for ourselves. Ie I’d go onto the left if no joy on the right etc. None us needed the manager to tell us we knew most of the time what we were doing wrong and worked as a team to rectify it. We had leaders in the team as well that helped everyone along. Sadly we havnt got any leaders in our team they are just a bunch of wimps who collapse as soon as things go against us. That is not necessarily the managers fault.

          2. Agreed mate but when it comes to tactics there’s no getting away from the fact he’s totally inept & possibly is not bringing the best out of them. I’ve worked for SHITE bosses & this only causes an unhappy workforce.

          3. wot a crock of shit ~ its all lamberks fault be told

          4. We’re saying the players are also responsible so what’s SHITE about that????

          5. i know wot ur saying i was just being argumentative, like oohah 2 fish for reations

    3. Wright Phillips will go to west ham

  21. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    There’s a rumour going round that the Rumour are about to reform.

  22. MarkDraperNumber8 avatar
    MarkDraperNumber8

    So basically to round up lots of news pouring out of the paper over the last week. We remain static as a club, or even worse it can be argued that we’re going backwards a little bit.

    PL still here. PF unimaginably still here. Lerner still here. No buyers.

    The bomb squad to be brought back into the mix (this particular piece of news is extremely embarassing and a little insulting to the fans)

    albrighton and delfounso gone (no drama to be honest, but let’s not boo Albrighton next season)

    Helenius probably gone without really getting a chance (I’m personally incredibly frustrated at this as I think the lad has bags and bags of ability)

    Looking to bring in Sean wright-phillips, again slightly insulting.

    Links to Lukaku, Lescott and Barry (silly season never fails to waver)

    An admission from our manager that we’re in trouble and now need experience, which if done at the beginning of his tenure would have amounted to roughly the same cost as all of the dross we have now. 3 players ffs, the spine of the team, that’s all that was needed.

    an arrogant Benteke speaking on comparisons between himself and Lukaku to Messi, ronaldo, Inbra, Falcou etc. Arrongant much? Calm down son

    And Kiyotake, named in the Bundesliga worst XI squad of the season

    Please inform me if I forgot anything else to smile about.

    Fucking nightmare! vtid

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Plus Benteke would of been of if he wasn’t injured but Shoukd go in jan. Also the villa pr machine will be in overdrive hailing Hutton and bent as 2 new signings to the team. The club obviously do think we are mugs.

      1. saddened avatar
        saddened

        Oh mate wait until July until Bent and Hutton are back, “you just couldn’t fault their commitment” from Lambert and Villa’s PR Machine “Bent and Hutton are raring to go” I am putting in my diary

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
          OohAhPaulMcGrath

          So sad but true saddened. There will some bs spin on it

          1. I know it was a rarity but I thought Hutton played well against England.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
              OohAhPaulMcGrath

              Hutton isn’t a bad player to be fair but because he was signed by mclown most fans, including myself, at VP had made their minds up before a ball was kicked. If mclown had signed Messi we still would of moaned yet when lambert signs joe fuckin bennet he’s a messiah!!

  23. seriously supporting the villa is bad for your health, nothing seems 2b happening, that’s suggests next year will be no different, squad is totally not premier class, serious money is needed, for the life of me, i don’t see anybody buying the club, lambert won’t be recruit any players. sorry maybe loans, i can’t see many free signings as they command more higher wages, unless they are pants which we av already a dressing room full

    us fans are fuming and with good reasons, so i am gonna give myself a break from annoying myself, looking forwards 2 watching england succeed to fail, then its our turn,

    bien dia aimgos

    1. Gracias gue tenga un gue Nath 🙂

      1. nomas entied inglis billy el pescado 🙂

        1. What Nath Billy the Fish ? Gracias aimgo. Its OK Giddy. I’m a fish now. 🙂

  24. TOO MUCH SOL LADS. 😀

  25. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-fans-should-thanking-3580253

    interesting reading / if like i think nobody buys this club and we do get relegated next year, their will be no manager, hardly any players. could be a 2 division drop, it gets worse this more you investigate deeper

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Nursey is a joke writing that article lamberk stayed as he wouldn’t get pay of and no one else wants him

      1. what ever you decide to read,its all the same doom and gloom, mat kendrick is respected he says same shit this on the bomb squad shuttle right to see his remarks on players

        http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-mat-kendrick-bomb-7148520

  1. I’m not even convinced Utd wanted Martinez, but something’s gone on, possibly agent talk. That’s really awkward now. I wonder…

  2. Glad you agree holte us who have followed villa for years (me since 1957 )68 year’s and seen the trends…

  3. I was thinking the same as Roy. It reminds me of the last days of the O’Neill era. Where we…

  4. Didn’t villa want Somerville in the past look at him today.what the hell does monchi do other than buy and…