A few weeks ago when Larry Ellison was being talked off I explored some links between him and Lerner. This was in the belief that Randy is going to sell us to some he knows.
Well following on from today’s announcement I have looked at any links to Philip Anschutz and then came across something.
You will know that we are going on tour to Texas in the Summer, I always held off from saying this was to new owners. Of course Anschutz owns one of the teams Houston Dynamo’s that we are playing. Well the other team is FC Dallas ….
The owner there is Clark Hunt.
Hunt also owns the Kansas City Chiefs NFL team so there is no doubt he and Randy in owners meetings have met many times. He has also owned previously the Columbus Crew and who did we play in Lerner’s home state of Ohio a few years ago ?
If you google Clark Hunt you will see his name linked with takeovers at Palace, Newcastle and West Ham, so he has had interest in English football.
Could it be we see a joint ownership between the two and do they know each other ?
The answer is a clear yes as THIS LINK shows and let me quote
The joint project is the result of a unique partnership between Hunt Midwest, a full-service real estate development company owned by the Lamar Hunt family, and LightEdge Solutions, which is owned by Qwest founder Phil Anschutz. The long relationship between the Hunt and Anschutz families helped foster the partnership.
Lamar Hunt (deceased) was Clark Hunt’s dad … the two are obviously very close, a joint bid from them is now by favourite.
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309 responses to “Hunt and Anschutz the new owners of AVFC ?”
Ian, I picture you with a green visor on like one of those 1930’s journalists. Working under a dim lamp under reams of notes trying to establish connections all over the world! Lol! Have you worked out who shot Kennedy yet???
P.s. Do these guys have the cash to back a serious package???
According to wikipedia their combined worth is roughly 13-14b? Their understand of the game is the most appealing part though.
that is the difference both are successful and Clark Hunt turned a massively losing NFL side around
Clark Hunt’s reportedly worth 2 billion and Anschutz reported at 10 billion. So yeah, yeah they do.
Lol 😀
Funny you saying that bum bum JD’S another world web surfer,wheres he??????
Ian the incredible researcher. Ian Robo, Villa inspector. Someone start the movie!
We played at Spurs yesterday.
Maybe Joe Lewis will buy us.
why can’t we just have a rich middle eastern sheikh oil baron from some wealthy royal background. Americans are hard work and they care too much about their money
So true they are pain in the backside. Would love a shiek or oligarch. Though Ellis being interviewed today it was likely to be an American and I believe that
Sucks that people who make/born into their own money, don’t wanna lose it all.
I must admit I did wonder what that Texas tour thing was about.
Texas isn’t really a hotbed for footy as far as I know, is it?
If it’s going to be more American owners, these would be the sort I’d actually quite like.
Probably breadheads, yes, but at least they do seem to genuinely love sport.
I’m cynical, to say the least.
Aston Villa and owners with a total wealth of $14 billion?
Nah, we’re not that lucky.
well maybe this time ? Well lets hope so but Anschutz at 70 I doubt would want to take on a PL side by himself.
Just have put aside his abhorrent personal views (well to me at least).
Ah man, I’d better not look into his personal views then.
The thing that worries me, is if we get someone in who has nowhere near this sort of wealth, some will be moaning before he even comes.
Given that Randy Lerner is pretty much deemed a pauper in the ridiculous world of Prem footy, I think that whoever comes in needs to be either very, very wealthy or very brave.
What a state the game’s in when only billions will be enough to take us forward 🙁
Depends on what your own personal views are, lets say he is very much of the religious right …
yeah if you want to compete you have to have the cash, I hate it but there is not the magic way of say ‘Dortmund’ etc …. not in today’s football.
I will very pleased if we show ambition but enjoy it from the sidelines … unless an owner for once sees how little attendance money now matters and lowers it to German levels (wont happen).
Dortmund’s going the money way soon enough anyways, but then they do have it. Cash is the only way for us, unfortunately.
Anschutz is 74, and apparently winding down quite a few of his business interests; if he’d been looking for a British club on which to lavish cash, he could have easily gone for one before now [Liverpool, Newcastle, Sunderland, even ManU].
Let’s wait and see before getting too excited by rather tenuous speculation.
Should we assume he wouldn’t welcome Der Hammer back as a guest???
Is the billions measured in the US or UK billions? Big difference…
US. so they’re worth about 8 billion pounds or so. Which is still a hell of a lot of money.
Little too tenuous for my liking
Robo I’ll go along with what you’ve found out, you know thinking about it it makes sense, I also think Deadly involved in it in some way, he’s never left Villa park from day one. Who do you think might take on Faulkner’s roll ? Deadly ? its not beyond him after all its only advice in the game, and directorship he has that, plus the love of Villa. Mind blowing thought.
Deadly is past his 90th birthday, can’t see him having any day-to-day involvement whatsoever…
Agreed, but I’d still expect him to hold an advisory type of role.
He probably has been already.
Then again, I doubt he’d have been party to AM coming in.
Mind you, we should NEVER forget his previous links with the scum!
Think Bill is on a wind up, the Frail Ellis I saw today on TV was the usual bluster and BS we saw over many years.
http://avfctranstweet.freeforums.net/thread/10/takeover-latest-post-statement
Load of bollox, that.
“Numerous sources”?
Do me a favour.
Jeez we could have weeks of this …
I was speaking to him 18 month ago believe me he’s not all that senile, he still has a boardroom plus office and a row of seats in the directors box, and don’t forget he is a director of manor brewery, that man is no idiot Robo.
I’ve no desire to insult a bloke of 90…but please, let’s not forget what that man did to The Villa…now is not the time to martyr Ellis..he was indeed “deadly” but for all the wrong reasons! I do think GT needs to be back at the club though in some capacity.
On another note, good to see Lee Hendrie earning a few quid as a pundit on Sky tonight.
Accordin to twitter and five live deadly doug is on to say we sold dunno how true or not. 11.15.
According to another person… Anyways.
Complete bollox if it was true it would be on Ssn not even a mention of it. Yet again they don’t give a fuck about us anyway
Didn’t realize Sky Sports knew all… They’re a bit late on just about everything fans already know.
SSN care more about the happenings at QPR than us, we’ve known about this for ages but they just don’t give a feck!
Exactly. Sky Sports are far from the be all end all of knowing.
Well it’s 11.25 and not even in news now like I say total bollox
True. But if we get a zillionaire in and sign Messi they will start having a wank fest over us
Didn’t say it will, I said according to a person.
They were just talking about Ferdinand to Villa at the moment.
Ay why would we go for him. 6 years ago maybe but he is injury probe and a spent force
And if we get a simple Billionaire worth 4-5 Billion, we’d get a bunch of whiners claiming it’s not enough. Despite the fact someone worth 25-30 Billion’s not gonna spend more than someone worth 4-5.
Totally agree ooha, I try not to watch SSN anymore, you only have to watch there transfer deadline day where they have a wank fest over nothing happening was enough for me to stop watching….
So true COE. They are no quicker than newsnow and other media outlets. They’ve just made transfer deadline day an event to please advertisers. People on internet social media are usually ahead of Ssn.
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Hmmmmmmmm…
Doug Ellis:
“I WAS very fond of Paul Lambert”.
“I’ve heard it’s a done deal”
“Needs £200 million to buy it”
“Needs £100 to £120 million for new players”
Well… Yeah. So obviously just rumours unfortunately.
He said its a done deal and then said he hasn’t got a clue! I think Doug knows exactly what going on…..
He also said ‘promises were broken’ to Lerner
Broken by whom????
I would guess by planning officials about matters to do with ground or training ground development – or transport infrastructure. Promises are things you rely on but cannot control. The management and the players conditions were in Randy’s control.
Just interviewed a villa fan on Ssn and he has just renewed ST because Lerner is going. What he dosnt realise is A) it could take months or years and B) we don’t know who is buying us and what their intentions are. It could be a Vincent Tan type owner. Probably be some rich guy that promises the world and achieves mid table mediocraty on the cheap
It was Vaze!!!!! Lol!
Obviously. Gonna get someone worth exactly 275m. He’s gonna spend 200m for the club and put in about 11 pounds each summer. TOP OF THE LEAGUE WE GO with Allardyce!
And I’ve heard it’s Carson Yeung together with the Venky’s….
Hate to say I told you so but pretty obvious
I again didn’t say it would happen, nor did I 100% expect it. lol
Ok lol
One could hope though. He thinks it’s a done deal. Maybe it really is. Maybe he’s actually right. Who knows?
It is going to be a month of this isn’t it?
could be …. but will die down as WC approaches … however the Mirror are right, everything is on hold until it is sorted and done.
Yep, I just read a few articles claiming all transfers and contracts are on hold. Albrighton must be absolutely gutted right now.
The interview with Doug Ellis on R5L tonight was clear enough, Doug isn’t the sharpest tool in the box nowadays (good for 90 though) but he did say he had been told it is a done deal in the sense that one specific American has made an offer which Lerner is likely to accept subject to the fine print, but Doug does not know who that is. Yes he referred to Lambert in the past tense.
The one good thing about this year is that it is a World Cup year. If you think back to the last World Cup there was a hiatus in the transfer merry go round until after it ended. And of course the World Cup itself threw up some new hot properties, who would displace existing big names. So the new owner and hopefully new manager will not be missing the boat in the same way they would in 2013 or 2015.
Knowing our luck takeover will happen just after window so they have a good excuse for not spending. Not much happens transfer wise till after World Cup so all rumours re players until then are total bollox. Hope we don’t sign anyone in World Cup these new names are usually crap and just play themselves into tge window for a couple of weeks.
Oohah, I didnt realise there were league 2 players in the world cup ! Lol
That’s the best clue yet for me.
Ellis might be a bit past it, but he isn’t going to lie about the Villa now, imo.
New owner coming in and Lambert gone.
I’ll go with that for now, until things are proven to be different.
Yep, the WC should give us more breathing space.
Birmingham Mail
“Aston Villa could become the next Manchester City – with oil-rich Arabs tipped to bring the glory days back to Villa Park.”
Do they know something we don’t?
Maybe the USA owner stuff is just a smokescreen.
Never heard of this Football finance expert fella Peter Knowles but I hope he’s clued up and his prediction becomes a reality.
Other sites are quoting Deadly saying some deals been done and it’s more Americans but who knows?
On looking at articles from the Mail over the past few days, their speculation and guesswork is about the same as on this site! Lol!
I really hope a new owner is installed soon as all I see happening in the close season is a chairman who’s going to spend FUCK all for obvious reasons with the same manager who’s biding his time until he gets the chop. We’re in limbo with no direction atm, I’m one impatient fucker.sooner the better I hope it’s not one rush job before the season starts.I live in hope
To right mate the last thing we need is this to drag on through the summer and we are left with the present shower of shite at VP come August but there again that wouldn’t be in the new owners interests so a quick deal is very much on the cards imo.
I hope so mate I just have this horrible feeling I don’t think it’s going to be as straight forward as some fans foresee. What negative bastard I am 🙁
Nobody is going to stump up £200m then risk that by leaving it to late to get their own man in and furnish him with the funds and time needed for the total rebuild down at VP.
No way they can allow the same team to start next season that finished last, on form we’d be down by Christmas.
LOL……IANROBO……. it gets funnier by the minute. Your even stealing stuff from this site now.
Look back about 6 weeks on here when I used the screen name ‘my name is Anschutz and I am buying the Villa’…go on look back!
I used the name about 5 or 6 times before BWS rumbled me.
FFS….stop guessing and listen to me.
Having said that, your not too far off the mark this time. I am impressed that you managed to use the clues I gave you to good effect……well done. Further clues will be available on this site very, very soon. See if you can work them out again!
I think the deal could go through relatively quickly (end of June).
If it drags on into the new season with no investment the team have a more than real possibility of being relegated next year. This would be a disaster for Lerner or any new owners.
With all the cut backs over the last 2 years and Lerners perceived lack of interest it is obvious he has been gearing up to sell. If a buyer isn’t lined up already i would be amazed.
Probably a silly question why do the selling by an American company aimed at the American market there’s a big fucking world out there.
They’d simply be the ones to broker the deal Giddy. They can be based anywhere, and at a guess, I’d say they’d done the business for Randy before.
remember the vast majority of billionnaires are American and if you are looking at sports owners then America is the place.
I know there’s 74 dotted around landon.the most in any city in the world.
The fact that there is no sale at the moment could prove to be disastrous.The players we have are crap and will be around next season.The club pitchwise is really poorly and will be no quick fix.I fear for AVFC….UTV
So I’m not the only doubter mate.
I can understand the doubters and of course Randy is not going to allow spending in a takeover process, which indicates that any possible takeover is closer than some people really think.
There is actually enough cash in the club to spend some but what is the point if the manager is to change. Would a new manager want Gabby or delph to have new contracts or to give Albrighton a new one ?
Imagine a delay that lasts all summer. We return at the end of August and Benteke and Kojak arestill out injured along with NZog. Albrighton has gone to Everton sick of waiting on a new contract. Randy cashes in another few million by selling Delph and Weimann to the Barcodea thinking a new owner will have time to scour the market for last minute leftovers. Ron is injured again with Okre far from match fit. With Lambert at the helm. We REALLY would be fooked!!!
no question if we are not sold even by July we are fooked but I simply do not see that
So according to reports – An American Sheikh will buy Villa…….I think his name is Larry E. Mansour Al Bin Hasaan….True story!!!
Lambert’s off to the states to see Randy, why didn’t he just post his P45?
Even better mate couldn’t he do it online????
Or by fax? Text msg?
If Lerner had a buyer they would be in place straight away to sort things out and do things their way.There is no buyer or one even close.He has put the club up for sale and that’s it it’s a come and get me from Lerner to potential buyers.But yet again you called for him to go so he puts the club up for sale very dangerous times club is actually floating with an owner who doesn’t want the club.
Here is your next clue lads. Its about the manager NOT the owner.
‘There WILL be a Turkish connection’
Now …..sit back…stay calm and wait for Ian to catch up….3 months should be long enough!
graeme souness lol
Oohah…you are extremely warm with that guess!
Next clue…..Balotelli….thats all for now folks!!
BWS….its all about opinions!
His win record is excellent but isn’t he also known for incredibly dull style of football?
I think most Villa fans are all dull footballed out LV.
Roberto Mancini?
Id rather have Henry.
iv no idea was just joking about souness. pls dont tell me its him!!
Samet Aybaba.
Will it be a delight?
Got that wrong Langford,its Celtics manager got to be a jock. AGAIN. 🙂
Lennon? He’s an Ulsterman Bill but still no thanks, no more Scottish Football connections.
BILL….definetely NOT Scottish!
Be back with another clue soon!
Jesus?????
Well he got a good track record with raising from the dead, Lazarus FC? Nice ring to it.
Giddy…no, I’m NOT….but I’m a very close second 🙂
Jesus saves and Benteke nets the rebound 🙂
Pontius put the cross in!
Victor Moses…I cant Adam and Eve it!
Slavan bilic?????
Ersan yanul????!
Donna kebab!!
Aint that a cream for piles?
BWS….Dont worry, I’ll get to the bottom of it 🙂
I’m trying to guess who the fuck LANGFORDS on about I’m sure there’s a manager called JESUS.
Jorge Jesus?
JORGE JESUS.
Benfica manager. 😉
Cheers Andrew some on here think I’ve lost the plot mate.
Randy has been looking to sell for a couple of years, and I think he has now found a few buyers willing to stump up some cash, the deal couldn’t have been done if we went down – we are in the premiership so it will go through… He has put out his statement because the deal is not done yet, but I am sure if he had no buyers and was worried about finding one, he would not have put transfer activity on hold as premiership survival is financial imperative to him…… Lets just hope the new owner/s complete the deal quickly.
I hope your right mate cuz I couldn’t stand another season like last.This uncertainty is worrying….Hoping for new owners very soon with big transfer kitty…….It could just be he(Lerner)has just put the club up for sale and there is no buyer
It could be JayDee but its unlikely, acquisitions are all cloak and dagger stuff when consultants such as BoA (Merrill Lynch) work on this type of stuff its all kept very secretive, so Randy putting out on the WWW must mean he has a number of potential buyers, I heard there were 4…. lets just cross our fingers.
With the Financial Fair play rules now in place im not really sure it matters that much who takes over we need to increase revenue. We could try doing this by putting our ticket prices up to the kind of Chelsea/Arsenal level i.e over £75 a ticket but we as fans are not so keen on financing success ourselves we always want someone else to do it so all i can see in the future is the same old same old no matter who is the owner of the club, that is modern football. Unless you are in the chamions league you are only ever going to be making up the numbers
just do what city do flout the rules and get a £50m fine then tie them up in legal paperwork for years to come simples