Grealish to Man City for £100M; Thoughts

Apologies for not having posted for a good while. The truth is I’ve quite enjoyed not really having to think about football at all. The Buendia signing seems an excellent one and that nearly nudged me into writing something, but somehow I just didn’t get round to it. The Ashley Young signing didn’t do anything at all for me, although it seems pretty popular amongst the fans generally.
Even England haven’t really inspired me much. I enjoyed our first half performance on Tuesday, but struggle to see how it’s going to be any different from our usual losing to the first decent team we face. That said, I actually think we can beat Germany if we perform.

The news today is that Aston Villa have agreed a £100 million fee to sell Jack Grealish to Man City as soon as he has come away from the Euro tournament.
It’s just too big a story for me to pass up.

I’m usually very sceptical about any press speculation, but I have a very sneaky feeling there’s something in this story. There’s no vagueness or guesswork in the wording and it all seems very definite.
I think I’ve voiced my opinion before, quite recently that I could partly see Jack leaving this year with the thought being that after the money that Edens and Sawaris have spent, I couldn’t really blame them for wanting to recoup some of it.
If the sale does happen, I can see it all being spent and the reality is that £100 million will buy some very decent players. There’s debate to be had about whether getting those players in will make up for losing a player who has opened all football fan’s eyes, but I very much doubt the club have taken the decision lightly and there must have been a lot of thought put into it.
There’s also the fact that we don’t know how the player himself feels. I don’t think for one minute Jack would hand in a transfer request, but you can’t blame him if he wants to win silverware at Man City. And given that it seems Pep still wants Harry Kane as well, you’d have to think that that silverware will be forthcoming this season.
We also have to consider that Jack was supposed to be leaving last season and we apparently managed to dissuade him from going by saying that we would allow him to leave when the time was right.

So of course I’ll be gutted if Jack does go, but I can mostly understand it.
My biggest complaint is that I personally think it’s too cheap and I’ve always had £130 million in my mind. I also think if it does happen, we’ve let it all happen too easily and I’d have liked to see the club put up a bit of a fight and at least on the face of it, reject the bid.

I also have a concern that the team look decidedly average without Jack. That said, I think Dean Smith knows a decent player and can overall improve the team.
Let’s see if it happens, eh?


Comments

89 responses to “Grealish to Man City for £100M; Thoughts”

  1. Bill Pearson.. avatar
    Bill Pearson..

    Holte, we all will , it don’t hide the fact it was a humiliating turn of avents subbing him, it must have hurt so why hasn’t Southgate explained his reasoning. I feel for Jack and wouldn’t like that on my CV. No I feel Southgate a lucky manager and time will tell .

    1. Big Fat Ron avatar
      Big Fat Ron

      Bill, I respect you a lot but there was nothing humiliating about it. Nobody can humiliate you unless you allow them to. In other words, IF Jack felt humiliated, it is because he is too proud, which means he is not a team player. IF that is true, that would be one reason why Southgate doesn’t prefer him. Before the World Cup of 2018, Southgate’s buzz-word was ‘humility’, something previous England squads for many years lacked, as they were ‘Billy Big Bollocks’ all about ME ME ME wankers. That’s why England never stood a chance of winning anything. Southgate recognised that and changed the whole culture of the England set up. This group of players is no better than those Erinkson, Capello, and Hodgson had at their disposal. But Southgate has changed the mentality. There is more to football than football.

      Anyway, that wasn’t the reason he took him off; I believe Jack IS a humble lad. And whenever you see him and Southgate together, there seems to be genuine mutual respect there.

      So here is what happened: England needed a goal. Southgate sent Jack on. England scored. England needed to defend the lead. Southgate chose to take Jack off for Trippier. – an attacker for a defender. Why not Sterling? – a Villa fan might ask. Sterling was running at Denmark until literally the last second of the game, almost scoring at the death when seeing the whites of Schmeichel’s eyes. That despite two hours of playing. Jack, however, lost the ball in his own half and gave away a corner during the ‘game management’ stage. Not to mention the fact that he’s still not 100% match fit.

      Bill, Southgate has got to back-to-back semi-finals. And now the second EVER final, the first since ’66, so long ago it’s practically mythical. There’s nothing lucky about it. It’s hugely disrespectful for anyone to suggest that. Some may not like the length of his face or the fact that he left Villa for Boro, or that he doesn’t lick Jack’s arse like we do, but that doesn’t make him lucky. On paper, he may well be the best manager England have ever had. I’d like to see ‘the data’, as is the way these days. Regardless of what happens on Sunday, what he’s created deserves recognition, credit, and respect.

  2. Bill Pearson.. avatar
    Bill Pearson..

    Elmo to Barcelona on a free, ?

  3. DSVilla avatar
    DSVilla

    I’ve been thinking about the first team squad. We have lost (or are currently losing) Barkley, Elmo, Heaton, Kalinic, Engels, Hourihane and Taylor. Or so I believe.
    We have added Young and Buendia. That means we have 5 spaces available unless someone else leaves. As far as I understand U21 players are all available. Does that mean we will add 5 more, or promote some U21 to first team? Chuk, Ramsey, JPB are all there or thereabouts. I guess we may well get another experienced keeper in. What do we do about the other spots? A striker would be nice, but I think we are OK in most other positions.
    The Smith Rowe link is curious. Would we play Buendia, Grealish and SR in the same lineup? Is he in play in case Grealish leaves?

    I’m curious to know what others think.

  4. Bill Pearson.. avatar
    Bill Pearson..

    D S they’ve been given new contracts 5 have 2024 I believe. Glad to say all signed. It now BFR Marino joined in on that move of Southgate subbing, I still think he was wrong then what do I know..

    1. DSVilla avatar
      DSVilla

      Hi Bill. I know they have been given contracts but they can still be used to add to the first team without being named as 1 of 25 first team squad. The ones I listed leaving were named first team squad members so we can either buy in new players and still use the u21 members or promote some of them to the squad and not buy in other players. That’s my question really. Do we buy or not bother and just promote a few of them?

  5. steve avatar

    When i was 17 after 2 months of being a substitute i finally got my chance when the mangers son who played in my position did not turn up on time. I got subbed after 10 minutes when he finally showed up. I felt terrible, gutted and humiliated.
    Other team members were shocked as they thought i was better than him. I left went to another team and was a regular. Still brasses me off 40 years later when i see things like what happened to jack.

  6. DSVilla avatar
    DSVilla

    Grealish sub was quite shocking really. I thought maybe Trippier was brought in with one eye on pens. Maybe Grealish wouldn’t be named as a pen taker. Still pissed me off though.

  7. Holte avatar

    Congratulations to Emi on the Copa win and commiserations to Doug. Great to see Villa players in a final.

  8. Holte avatar

    Come on England! My nerves are already shot. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  9. Hitchens60 avatar
    Hitchens60

    Gone with 8 defenders again like against Germany so have to wait for Grealish to come on then!

    So if both teams sit deep?

  10. Hitchens60 avatar
    Hitchens60

    Why did Southgate use three of our least experienced players to take the last three penalties?

  11. Bill Pearson.. avatar
    Bill Pearson..

    I’ve been waiting for him to drop a changer Hitch, he’s a very lucky man in the job of England manager, 19 year old inexperienced player taking a pen , late in subbing, two of the questions he should face, all in all a good display and nice to see attacking football a game that would have suited other players rarther than Sacko ,Sancho .Mount gone down in my estimation as a player being better than Foden, or Grealish, gutted but we have the making of a good England football team. Better days ahead hopefully.

  12. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    Jack tweeted this morning that he wanted to set the record straight. He put his hand up and said he wanted to take one. Southgate chose the order. Apparently Saka is awesome in training taking pens. Maybe nerves? I’m proud of all of them. We were so close, but a bit of creativity earlier on in the second half would have kept the ball away from our goal more.
    Livid on that challenge on Grealish. I don’t even think he was carded. Dirty Italians never change. The Italian team should have had 2 sending off. That one, and the untouchable Chellini nearly choking Saka to death.

  13. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    There is one thing I would outright ban if I was a manger, and that’s the stupid, pathetic, affected dinking, staggered, stalling penalty taking.
    Just put your bloody foot through it!!!!!!!!!

  14. steve avatar

    I’m sorry i just don’t get all the Southgate hype. He bottled it. He of all people knows the pain of a penalty shootout so why didn’t he try and settle it during the game. We have all this fantastic attacking talent sat on the bench. Yet he prefers to play with everybody behind the ball. He and the FA for appointing him should share the blame. If we play Brazil or Argentina in the World cup will he play with no forwards.
    This is a massive lost opportunity. If Southgate had been more positive with team selection and tactics we would have walked this tournament.

    1. Hitchens60 avatar
      Hitchens60

      I tend to agree with you Steve. In the end his over cautious approach lost us the game.

      Whilst Sako might be ‘awesome’ with penalties in training, I think Southgate made an enormous mistake in not using his experienced players to take the first five penalties. There’s an enormous difference between training and the pressure in a final penalty shot out.

      Having said all that you don’t get to a World Cup semi final and a Euro final unless, as a manager, you’re good at your job.

  15. Hitchens60 avatar
    Hitchens60

    All gone very quiet on the transfer front!

    Nice video on AVTV of Buendia’s first day at Bodymoor Heath. You know how some players just give you confidence?

    Welcome to Aston Villa Emi.

  16. Holte avatar

    Jack has been criticised for undermining Southgates decision on penalty takers. Fact is he was just defending himself from criticism from Roy Keane that he and Sterling should have taken one when he actually offered to take a kick.
    On reflection about England I think we missed our best opportunity in years to win the tournament. Southgate has been praised for making a semi final of the World Cup and final of Euros. Fact is we had an easy group and comfortable knockout stage. All of the teams we met were ranked below us yet Southgate seemed scared of playing Germany and Italy by picking a team to neutralise the opposition rather than pick his best team and formation and let the opposition worry about us. Germany are a team in decline and only Italy looked solid throughout. They have an ageing centre back yet we didn’t make him break sweat. Kane played most of the game in centre midfield with two holding midfielders and five defenders. Mount ran out of steam and Sterling ran into brick walls without support. I thank my lucky stars Dean Smith is our manager because I would hate to see him adopt negative tactics like Bruce used to for us. Hopefully Jack will sign a new contract with us and get plenty of game time for a forward thinking manager who is happy four defenders and one holding midfielder. UTV!

    1. Hitchens60 avatar
      Hitchens60

      It seems Southgate walks on water for some.

      Grealish was within his rights to defend himself against Keane’s comments.

      Southgate made a number of critical mistakes in the final and was found out. That’s his responsibility and his alone.

      I feel for JG – he was badly used by Southgate who, it seems, is guilty of being a slave to training statistics. A great manager understands the difference in dynamics between training and the real pressures of a final in a major tournament. In this instance Southgate didn’t.

      My comments are not meant to take anything away from what the team achieved despite Southgate’s negativity.

  17. Big Fat Ron avatar
    Big Fat Ron

    I agree with all the comments here about Southgate after the final, which was a disaster. Yes, I was fully supportive of him up to the final because I believe that, as with Dean Smith, credit should be given when due as well as criticism, not constant criticism. To get to the final was an excellent achievement. Unfortunately, he and everyone involved blew it. And yes, the evidence strongly suggests he bottled it. I think Southgate will have learned more from this one game than in 5 years managing England. Ultimately, Italy play 4,3,3. Our strikers are better than their strikers and quicker than their defenders. So surely, you go like-for-like? Mancini is massively experienced but it was clear that Southgate gave them far too much respect and not enough to his own players. Fear of failure, paradoxically, results in failure.

    What surprised me is the apparent lack of proactive preparation. For example, if we go 1-0 up early, what’s the plan? If we can’t get out of our own half, what’s the plan? If it goes to extra time, what’s the plan? If felt like it was a freeze in the headlights moment for all concerned. Southgate’s coaching team take a lot of the credit when England do well, so they must also share some of the blame, which is primarily the manager’s.

    I can’t understand how, once they got to half-time 1-0 up, and it was obvious something wasn’t right, changes weren’t made. We were 45 minutes away from glory. Worse, the second half was played totally in England’s half, but nobody reacted, not Southgate or any of his team. It reminded me of the Liverpool game when Mane scored the winner in the last second after we were 1-0 up for so long. Someone turned to me in the stand and said “they can’t keep this up” – in other words, they will concede – it’s obvious. But no one reacted. This was the biggest mistake, because they had the players to ease the pressure. Yes, Jack would have been perfect to run at them and win free-kicks for 45 minutes, but he didn’t appear until well into extra time. This was fatal, not the penalties. They should have won in 90 minutes. Although, the dirty Italians would probably have sent Jack back on a stretcher. How Jorginho wasn’t sent off for the stamp is beyond me. My dad was adamant the ref was on their side. And then there was the constant insistence of Pickford to roll the ball to Stones or Maguire and play out from the back, even tough they couldn’t get out of their half. Boot it down the field FFS – win it and keep it in the final third for a while – ease the pressure. But, no…

    Then the penalties. Putting Rashford and Sancho on and taking Walker and Henderson off last minute. Both Walker and Henderson should have been there to take one, as well as Shaw. Not to mention Jack and Sterling. These are the experienced players who are use to high-stakes pressure situations. Nobody could believe it when Saka stepped up for the most high-pressure penalty in the history of penalty shoot-outs. Miss and you lose the title, after 55 years, at home. It was a horrible error of judgement by the manager and his team. Again, not prepared enough. Surely, the question ‘what if the 5th penalty is do or die – who will take it?’ should have been asked. These shoot-outs are not about how good you are at taking penalties; they’re about temperament. Any professional footballer who can’t take a decent penalty without pressure should be ashamed of himself. It’s when the pressure is on that the characters step-up. A comment on Jack’s temperament. This is a guy who can get punched in the head my a fan during a pressure match, then dust himself down to score the winner. Say no more.

    Also, If your keeper saves 2 out of 5, you should be winning a shoot-out. But then I wonder why do keepers guess and dive, when so many penalties are poorly hit in these situations? Just wait and you’ll more than likely save it. To save a Jorginho penalty is magnificent, and it was only possible because he waited. Yet, the third (I think) was a practically pass down the middle. If he’d waited, he’d have trapped it with his foot! So many lessons to be learned.

    I could go on and on, but I’m just as disappointed as you guys, and I agree that Southgate bottled it and blew it, although I had to feel for him as he looked mentally and emotionally drained in the post match press.

    Now looking forward to the new season and still hope to secure a season ticket, although not likely!

  18. Holte avatar

    Does anyone on here subscribe to Villa TV? Do you get full 90 minute coverage of Premier league matches after they have played? I know it’s not live coverage but was considering its not bad value if you get pre season friendlies too for £35!