General thoughts and Bruce resigns.

So I’ve been watching the Villa news avidly, as per usual, but you guys have been quicker to the mark which means I’ve mostly been getting the news from you lot, hence I’ve little to add at the moment.

You’ve done an excellent job in keeping me informed, so please keep it up!

It’s frankly a case of me just posting something new for the sake of it so we move the headline forward.
If I have something different to add, I’ll do so.

I have to say, I’m loving the business we’ve been doing (the Mings price apart, as much as I like him) including the players we’re still linked with. Douglas Luiz particularly seems a very good bet, given the buy back clause. If Pep wants him, you’d have to expect he’s a good player.
But even though it appears we might get him in as our defensive mid, who does Dean Smith have in mind to back him up?
I’ve seen it said that Hourihane is the answer.
And that’s just wrong to my mind, as he’s just too lightweight, even though I praised him for getting stuck in during the play-off final.
Maybe Bjarnason is the backup DM?
I don’t know.

And then I see here that Steve Bruce has resigned from Sheff Weds.
On the face of it, that seems quite treacherous, given that the Owls took him on when to my mind he’s demonstrated how he’s a yesterday’s man (albeit a safe choice).
But it’s obvious he’s going to Newcastle and it’s a management choice he just can’t resist.
Just like Dean Smith, who could resist managing “their own” club?

Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t, but I suspect Bruce might have made a big mistake here.
The barcodes want to watch attacking football and from what we’ve seen with him managing the Villa, he’s far too pragmatic and just won’t play like that.
Of course, the fans will give him the benefit of the doubt for a while, but I see him as only a survival-type manager and it will ultimately go badly.
That said, I do appreciate how he stabilised us and wish him all the best.
Except I expect them to be one of our major competitors this season, where I hope he seriously struggles.

Keep posting the updates guys, they’re much appreciated by me in yet another torrid time at work.

UTV!

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  1. Pat 57
    Pat 57 July 18, 2019 at 3:22 am . Reply

    Oh and just to say that there was a wonderful crowd of over 18,000 in Minnesota for a mid-week friendly (including a few vociferous ones who had clearly travelled from B6).

    Also nice to see Adrian Heath again as manager of Minnesota. Like most of us he’s carrying a bit of timber these days but he’s looking well.

  2. Benno
    Benno July 18, 2019 at 4:22 am . Reply

    Very good start to preseason, gotta say i really enjoyed the game, esp first half. Jota and O’Hare both looked really lively, and was nice to see us moving the ball around with such ease. Second half wasnt as fluid, but great goals from Lansbury and Bjarnason, be good for their confidence too. Targett and Guilbert both look a real threat going forward, and should add an extra dimension to our game,

    Presuming the Luiz deal goes through, i would still like to see us pick up another forward, hopefully Maupay before the end of the window. i dont think Hogan or Kodjia have really got what it takes in the Premier League.

  3. Big Fat Ron
    Big Fat Ron July 18, 2019 at 6:30 am . Reply

    Thanks for the summaries, Pat!

  4. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 July 18, 2019 at 7:00 am . Reply

    Thanks for the heads up guys – sounds encouraging.

    Jota was top drawer at Brentford and pulled our pants down when we played them. I think he could turn out to be the bargain of the summer – playing in a better side (than Blues) and under Smith again – exciting times.

    UTV

    1. Big Fat Ron
      Big Fat Ron July 18, 2019 at 10:28 am . Reply

      Similar to Juan Mata in style and ability, would you say, Hitch and Pat?

      1. Pat 57
        Pat 57 July 18, 2019 at 11:31 am . Reply

        Not sure, it perhaps might be nearer what David Silva does for City. He had a nice shot too. It was quite Messi-like, side footed through the defender’s legs and heading for the far corner. It took a really good save from the goalie to stop it.

        1. Big Fat Ron
          Big Fat Ron July 18, 2019 at 1:43 pm . Reply

          If he’s half as good as Silva, we’ve definitely got a bargain who will make a difference through the season!

          1. Texas Villan
            Texas Villan July 18, 2019 at 1:50 pm . Reply

            I didn’t mention Jota in my comments below and I should have done – he was very confident on the ball. My worry with these flair types is that they don’t have enough end product – but this guy seems to have something about him. I’m excited to see what he brings too. A bit of flair mixed with guile isn’t something we’ve seen for a while.

            1. Pat 57
              Pat 57 July 18, 2019 at 2:13 pm . Reply

              Flair and guile – you’re spot on there Texas. I noticed that, rather than the usual cross, Jota was constantly outside the penalty area probing and looking for the short pass into space inside the box. It’s early days and he’s only played a half so I don’t want to get too excited but, if this is what he’s tasked to do, I could see our strikers benefiting greatly from this.

              Good teams can mix it up – shoot from outside the box and cross the ball for headers etc but really good teams have that bit extra that so often makes the difference – the short killer pass into space. Barca and Man City especially excel at this. If we have a player in Jota who thinks this way then so much the better for us.

              As I said it’s still early days though….

              1. Bill Pearson
                Bill Pearson July 18, 2019 at 8:54 pm .

                Texas Villan, good luck to your 9 year old , give them all the help you can at that age it pays off in the end, my two grandchildren are now benefiting, the girl has just signed for Coventry Unt and now going to play the likes of Villa ladies . The lad 13 still banging them in for his side and only one team he wants to play for Villa.we didn’t see much in the highlights to see how good players did, I’m just pleased that its a happy camp and wait till they’re back at Villa. Picking up my Villa kit Wednesday and off on holiday Saturday. Utv.

      2. Hitchens 60
        Hitchens 60 July 18, 2019 at 3:56 pm . Reply

        Mata or Silva – not going to argue. We’ve desperately needed another creative mid to back up JG. Here’s hoping

        1. Big Fat Ron
          Big Fat Ron July 19, 2019 at 7:18 am . Reply

          For me, our benchmark is Paul Merson. A genius who was never replaced. This is an example of when it is worth signing a player who’s around the 30 mark.

  5. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson July 18, 2019 at 7:38 am . Reply

    Just been watching highlight of the match, some nice goals, also a incident when Dean was going in he started to sign a shirt for a fan, a security guard snatched the shirt away from the fan and Dean couldn’t believe his eyes, it was on Birmingham Live. Utv.

  6. Pat 57
    Pat 57 July 18, 2019 at 12:52 pm . Reply

    Good post match interview with Dean –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilQUUsrh3vw

    I love the way he talks frankly about the things the team didn’t do so well as well as the good things. He really seems to see things very clearly and in an unemotive way.

  7. Texas Villan
    Texas Villan July 18, 2019 at 1:43 pm . Reply

    Fortunately last night the Villa game finished in time for my 9 year old’s baseball game – they won their local tournament and made it to state and are 2 games away from being state champions. I’ve only been here for 4 years but as an adopted sport, I recommend baseball for getting into new sports!

    As for the Villa game itself – the one negative I saw was our defence looked sloppy at times. Perhaps we felt the opposition weren’t taxing but we just looked too casual. I thought Mings looked incredibly confident and the way he drove the ball forward was really impressive. JC was all over the place, even for a friendly was good to see that’s just who he is.

    I looked forward to seeing Callum O’Hare but was a little disappointed. He seemed off the pace of the game and his passing seemed a little awkward but he at least got stuck in. Perhaps tried too hard?

    Wesley didn’t seem to get into the game for me and would have liked to see him more involved.

    Henri had a superb game – all the 3 goals were really impressive. The latter two were moves made at speed and screamers (not to take anything away from Jack’s goal which was a great effort). Thor’s goal was nice and he looked very very good. I’ve always liked him and hope he gets some game time or we move him on where he can and should be playing.

    I thought Bree had a decent game and should not be ruled out being involved this season. Same for Davis whose hold up play is phenomenal. Guilbert looks to be a very impressive capture and I’m excited to see what he can bring to a settled team, after setting up a great goal. And just to echo what others said, nice to see Chester back who I think deserves a place still.

  8. VillaAwayInDiv3
    VillaAwayInDiv3 July 18, 2019 at 11:22 pm . Reply

    JOTA….some superb though balls……

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjKpzMyos_4

  9. Big Fat Ron
    Big Fat Ron July 19, 2019 at 7:30 am . Reply

    Love the comment from the female commentator: “If you’re not there to win the league, why are you in it?”

    I know many of us are content with survival or top half or whatever, but if you aim to win every game (which is what our manger does), why not see where that takes you? OK, this season is too much to ask, but why not have a plan to at least challenge for the league in 3 years? With the players we’ve signed, if we can add 5-6 more upgrades in the next two summers, why not aim for the sky?

  10. Big Fat Ron
    Big Fat Ron July 19, 2019 at 7:39 am . Reply

    Lansbury’s run from midfield and finish were Lampard-esque – really good sign if he can stay fit!

  11. Big Fat Ron
    Big Fat Ron July 19, 2019 at 10:05 am . Reply

    The new kit also looks excellent! Perfect shade of claret, not like some of the dodgy lighter shades we’ve seen in the past.

  12. Big Fat Ron
    Big Fat Ron July 19, 2019 at 10:30 am . Reply

    How many of our players should be aiming to get into the England squad asap? I’m sure Deano and the coaches will be setting these targets and challenges.
    Grealish, Mings, and Targett, definitely!

  13. Holte66
    Holte66 July 19, 2019 at 10:55 am . Reply

    Villa reported to be holding talks with Sturridge. Hope it’s not true because I don’t think he is the right personality for us now. Wrong age, constantly injured, hardly played last few seasons! Add to that he was banned and fined for betting!!
    Don’t even care if it’s pay as you play contract, there are many better options out there.
    Agree with Big Fat Ron that Villa shirt much better this season. Definitely more claret than purple. Also traditional blue sleeves and not a copy of West Ham which we had last season.

    1. Texas Villan
      Texas Villan July 19, 2019 at 4:02 pm . Reply

      I don’t believe there’s any legs to that at all. From all the messages coming from DS and Purslow, this would be in complete opposition to that. And if there were legs to it (which I doubt), then I’d have to trust that DS has seen enough of the situation that he can manage it and get the best out of him. I’d have snapped Liverpool’s arm off for him the year we got relegated, but many might have said the same about Gabby earlier in his career too. I hope there’s nothing in it.

      1. Hitchens60
        Hitchens60 July 19, 2019 at 8:58 pm . Reply

        It’s like the Ampadu rumours – no basis in fact!

        As Dean Smith said – ‘We’re going to buy everyone and anyone – many of the names we’ve been linked with we haven’t even discussed!’

        Where do the media actually get this ‘information’ from or perhaps they just have a team of so called ‘football insiders’ who sit in a darkened room and make it all up?

        From our own experiences we have learnt that accuracy isn’t a particularly important word when it comes to selling newspapers – or in the modern world – selling clicks!

        1. Badger123
          Badger123 July 19, 2019 at 10:09 pm . Reply

          “they just have a team of so called ‘football insiders’ who sit in a darkened room and make it all up?”

          This.

          We’re still being linked with Austin!

          1. Originallondonlion
            Originallondonlion July 20, 2019 at 12:59 am . Reply

            Austin? Can you still get the spares? He failed his MOT when Southampton got him so he was uninsured.

            It’s agents BS to their fading clients. “yes your still wanted in the Prem fella. I’ll get on the blower to one of the promoted trio, trouble is the Blades and Canaries are skint so it’ll have to be the Villa – tell your friendly hack.”

  14. nath
    nath July 20, 2019 at 8:01 am . Reply

    hope everyone is getting excited about the upcoming season. i got my new villa shirt ordered. old one had become a curse, needed a new lucky charm. didnt get to see the friendly in usa. saw some clips and read the fans reactions, so hard to gauge, if it was good or bad, see the fans still have it in for certain players, i personally wouldn’t read to much from one pre friendly. they would have been run into the ground for fitness the week before the game and then the heat factor,also this would just been the first game they played together. also i heard they played to different sides 1st and 2nd. its basically training in front of the fans.

    but i like the fact they took on a usa team, who are in their mid season. so should have been fitter in front of a big crowd. i also like how smith didnt disrupt this friendly, by the way most managers do in friendlies throwing on subs mid game. i always thought why dont they do this at half time instead of 60 minutes changing the whole team.

    if anybody watched this game how did wesley do ??

    1. Pat 57
      Pat 57 July 20, 2019 at 8:53 am . Reply

      Just wondering if you’ve been listening to the wrong fans as I watched the whole game live and was very positive about it afterwards. I certainly wouldn’t criticise anyone as I think everyone played okay with quite a few playing better than okay.

      Wesley certainly looks the part and had a few chances but it’s probably going to take a while before he gets up to speed.

      We should have a chance for another look with tomorrow’s game at Shrewsbury. I’m looking forward to it.

      1. nath
        nath July 20, 2019 at 9:19 am . Reply

        i saw this on fb, but it wasn’t all bad gripes some were more honest i suspect. but i was amazed their were some, being the first game back. cheers for your response, i will be happy to see the next one myself if the shrewsbury is on you tube.

        1. Pat 57
          Pat 57 July 20, 2019 at 12:39 pm . Reply

          Nath according to the AVFC site all Villa’s UK games will be shown on their YouTube site. Not sure what’s happening about the Leipzig game but I’m hoping that it might be on RB Leipzig’s site.

          All the friendly fixtures are here –
          https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/07/pre-season-fixtures-announced

          1. Bill Pearson
            Bill Pearson July 20, 2019 at 4:12 pm . Reply

            I see Maupay been left out of the squad again us and Sheffield are after him.

  15. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson July 20, 2019 at 1:03 pm . Reply

    IS THIS THE 9TH MAN?

    Aston Villa are set to make Egypt international Trezeguet their ninth summer signing in a deal worth an initial £8.75 million.

    Villa have agreed a fee with Turkish club Kasimpasa for the highly-rated winger, who is having a medical at the club’s training ground this weekend.

    Trezeguet, 24, impressed for Egypt in what was a disappointing Africa Cup of Nations for his country and Villa have been determined to bring him to the Premier League.

    It is understood the deal includes significant add-ons if Trezeguet proves a success, and Villa are confident that the former Anderlecht star will prove an exciting signing.

    Trezeguet’s capture will take Villa’s spending towards the £100 million mark but accusations that Championship’s play-off winners are “doing a Fulham” were dismissed by chief executive Christian Purslow this week.

    1. Pat 57
      Pat 57 July 20, 2019 at 2:14 pm . Reply

      Bill I hope this is right. With El Ghazi on one wing and Trezeguet on the other that would mean that Jota would be playing more centrally which is where he might be at his most effective.

      Here’s hoping…

      1. nath
        nath July 20, 2019 at 2:24 pm . Reply

        under smith the wingers and full backs work hard, so they will all get their turn. his system will become more obvious now he has had got his pre season to stamp his style more. his wingers are not the wingers of old like mark walters who loved the touchline and craved reaching the byeline to cross, under smith the wingers will cut in more and the full backs will be the ones running on the over lap. just as smith did at brentford.

        i am excited to see this, brentford were very easy on the eye. it will be harder at villa being at a higher level but i have full confidence smith will accomplish it

    2. Pat 57
      Pat 57 July 20, 2019 at 4:42 pm . Reply

      Bill the Star also saying that Trezeguet and Luiz are imminent at a total cost of £24 million. Hope they’re right.

      If we manage to get Heaton and Maupay too then I think it will have been the best transfer window I’ve ever experienced by a country mile.

      1. Originallondonlion
        Originallondonlion July 20, 2019 at 11:54 pm . Reply

        Sorry to say it – but NONE of the current England goalkeepers are any good. They are not being sought by, and they would not improve, any top-half EPL side. That should be a clue that Villa should not bother chasing them either. Villa might be able to get a loan of a young keeper on Chelsea’s books called Ziger.

  16. Badger123
    Badger123 July 20, 2019 at 6:19 pm . Reply

    Just in case anyone didn’t catch this decent article;

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11761646/aston-villa-mean-business-in-the-summer-window-but-is-it-good-business

    Interesting thoughts about Mings, that quite align with my earlier comments.

    And also this;

    “It does emphasise how ambitious Villa are. They will have looked at Wolves and how successful they’ve been.
    And Aston Villa are still, whether there are arguments about this or not, the biggest club in the Midlands.”

    It’s a good read for us Villans.

  17. nath
    nath July 20, 2019 at 7:12 pm . Reply

    i met a old mate today, who supports man city, he reckons villa might do alright this season, which means very good he never one for getting excited. he also went on to say the kid, that they couldn’t get a work permit for is a top prospect. he should fit in really good at villa. also he went on to say that they thought he was ready for their first team in the Fernandinho position. they have a young english kid called foden who is also getting better in this position,

    anybody know if we signed this Brazilian yet. was on sky that their was no major concerns. but why has it not been confirmed. hope nobody jumps in and steals him. we signed some decent players, defenders and forwards, but no sitting mids which we don’t have many options in our squad yet.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 July 20, 2019 at 7:23 pm . Reply

      Nath – deal for Luiz is supposed to be all OK and doing paperwork for work permit which is possibly now the biggest hurdle to him becoming a Villa player. Don’t forget we’ve been here before when Villa were confident of getting a permit for Kalinic and failed so fingers crossed.

      1. nath
        nath July 20, 2019 at 7:37 pm . Reply

        i watched a video of this guy and he looks awesome. but i wouldnt say hes a holding mid more like a all rounder. but my mate says hes holding mid plays there for his country, my fingers are crossed he looks like a major cog in our team if he signs

        1. nath
          nath July 20, 2019 at 7:40 pm . Reply

          i have to say them you tube vids conned me once or twice before. remember that tonev and the guy who had his pants pulled down by a spuds player they looked awesome on the good old you tube vids lol, but i think this time, this guy is the real deal

          1. Pat 57
            Pat 57 July 21, 2019 at 3:32 am . Reply

            Nath, I posted about this earlier. A few days ago I watched the rerun of a La Liga game Barcelona v Girona. It was early in the season and Luiz came on with 20 minutes to go. He steadied the ship for Girona in mid-field and helped them get a 2-2 draw.Not bad as the game was at the Camp Nou.

            I watched a lot of Girona’s games and Luiz was one of three players who stood out for me last season so you can be assured that he’s no Tonev. Of course, how well he might play in the Prem is still to be seen.

            1. nath
              nath July 21, 2019 at 9:51 am . Reply

              what about him looking like a up and down midfielder. i believe he has a wide amount of skills. he big strong and fast and has a eye for a pass. seems he is more than just a holding midfielder.

              but my mate says that his position for his country. what position did you see him play. thanks for the post, i think this guy really is the important cog. i just don’t want to be disappointed.

              i hear this morning we signed that Trezeguet this guy has amazing stats and his performance in the african cup has been top notch. i also caught the goals from the usa friendly. three good goals. the lansbury was a goal i love seeing. a top cross, picked out nicely into the stride of a decent finish. bjanassosn finish was also a nice cross and decent finish. grealish shot wasnt far behind. something grealish needs to work on finishing. that shot is really hard for keepers as it bounces just before its on the goalies grasp. i am looking forwards today game. give me a good look at our shape

              1. Pat 57
                Pat 57 July 21, 2019 at 11:26 am .

                Nath,
                Luiz was playing just in front of the defence in the Barcelona game. While some of the team were panicking, as Barca were piling the pressure on, Luiz was trying, and often succeeding, in passing the ball out to the attacking players. He seemed quite a cool customer and, in the cauldron that is the Camp Nou, that’s quite a feat.

              2. nath
                nath July 21, 2019 at 1:49 pm .

                sounds a treat pat. cant wait to see him in the claret

              3. Big Fat Ron
                Big Fat Ron July 21, 2019 at 2:53 pm .

                Sounds like the Brazilian Roy Keane!

  18. Jordan Selleck
    Jordan Selleck July 20, 2019 at 10:09 pm . Reply

    If the Neal Maupay deal doesn’t materialise,then a good shout would be the Brazilian on loan from Inter Milan striker Gabriel Barbosa who’s doing well for Corinthians. 3 Brazilians wouldn’t be too many,would it?

  19. Pat 57
    Pat 57 July 21, 2019 at 2:02 pm . Reply

    5,000 in the ground and over 13,000 watching live, not bad for a friendly.

    Team for the first half –

    Steer, Guilbert,Taylor,Konsa, Mings, Grealish, Thor, McGinn, Green, Davis, Jota

    COYL

    1. Pat 57
      Pat 57 July 21, 2019 at 2:08 pm . Reply

      Sorry 21,000 watching now.

  20. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson July 21, 2019 at 2:16 pm . Reply

    And me Pat, 21,001, I don’t think this will tell us much as fans, early days its mostly fitness, Grealish booked. Think the ref wanted his autograph.

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