Oh dear, oh dear, what to say?
I had the game on Radio WM, but the site’s SSL security certificate ran out which meant that you were probably seeing a warning about the site being unsafe. Let me reassure you, it isnt.
Anyway, I updated the certificate, only for the site to crash, which meant I was working on that and didn’t really concentrate on the commentary.
Hence any real assessment is vague at best, but the general tone of the commentary was easy to catch and when you hear “worrying”, “no shape” and “poor” etc, you have to be concerned.
I’ve said previously that our first few fixtures are tough and I hinted that I didn’t think we’d have many points racked up, which would probably lead to fans calling for Bruce’s head.
But from what I’ve seen on various other Villa sites, it seems the clamour has started already.
Now of course, it’s still very early days, but we’re already five points down on the league leaders and you have to wonder how much of a lead we might be able to pull back before it’s too late to challenge.
The most single worrying thing today was the comment that “Cardiff are a very average side, that will finish around tenth at best, yet they still beat us comfortably”.
So where does that leave us?
By the sounds of it, Warnock did his homework and targeted our right side, meaning Hutton had a shocker.
But more worryingly, it seems our defence was utter rubbish today, something I find strange given that we are supposed to have beefed it up. Words like “slow” maybe justify why some of us were concerned by Terry’s signing.
And just maybe my viewpoint about playing our “best” eleven so they get to know each other was also justified?
I don’t know.
As I said, it’s early days. Nothing is certain yet and Cardiff away is never going to be an easy game.
But we have another tough game coming up, away to Reading.
Are we confident that we’ll get anything there?
We need to start gaining points, even if they’re only single one’s because if we don’t, the season will be over before it’s really up and running.
I wonder what Tony Xia is thinking?
No reasonable owner is going to sack a manager this early, but you have to wonder how many poor performances he’ll tolerate.
I’m also intrigued as to how some of our more positive posters are going to react to this result.
I expect some very lively debate!
We dodged a bullet in de boer failed at the first attempt, he was one of andrews pre Bruce suggestions nice one andy keep em coming
Wow, one game. Jesus you’re getting more obsessed than Nath is lmao.
omg did you see the result on wiki 3 nil. big Samsaurus wouldn’t have lost with his prehistoric tactics like that. they were all over the place hardly a step forward 1 month in and they taken steps backward
seriously you don’t get much time to change styles, you really think other teams will allow them to play tippy tappy football. they will get ripped to pieces if they continue to play like that against teams like city utd and pool
We ought to do them a favour and take Benteke back now he knows no top 4 team will touch him now
No Bruce won his first game & he still failed remember some Inc you failed when he walked through the gates of VP. Brucey did hit the ground running de boer ain’t simple as
Ps next you’ll be saying give de boer time sorry that’s something you never gave Bruce so it’s not a case whatever suits you
who should we turn too Andrew. who will get us promoted Andrew I haven’t a clue. you are always right you and wiki. somebody needs to tell the owner dr x iam nominating you. to be the connection from thefans to owner. we need somebody who knows his stats watches 26 hours a footy daily
I want yorke I done my research hes not English, he has not lost as manager and hes wants the villa job and hes not employed currently can I put him on the maybe list you drew up
He has to go. And quickly. The two automatic promotion places will go to teams that score plenty of goals. that’s never going to be us under Bruce. I can’t see us getting into the play offs even.
As for his replacement – I have no idea. We would struggle to be any worse whoever it was.
I will apologise please don’t tell tales on me I won’t do it again.
what is frustrating me the most, is I haven’t seen this game against Cardiff. I was listening to it on bbc wales,summing up at the end, they were falling off their seats with joy and laughter. they couldn’t believe how easy Cardiff ripped villa apart. they pointed finger at chester then terry and both full backs. then reading Langford report things must be really bad for him to also spread the honest assessments.
i can honestly say i am speechless and clueless to reasons why we are shit. we have changed players and managers like our socks. owners and current owner has splashed the cash. trouble is after the current season. if we are still championship we are in big trouble. next season will see us cut our clothes drastically. this will be another hurdle to beat these championships sides with lesser quality players. smaller squad
we could quite easily become a constant championship side for many years to come. leeds utd have taken their time to return to the premiership. last year they had their best year that i can remember and they still missed out
Nath I watched it someone streamed it on Facebook how they did it being in the UK through AVTV. is beyond me, we looked woeful lansbury stood out for absolutely dreadful passing gabby hardly saw him in the game hogan on his todd up front defense like carthorses dreadful all round
Ps nath why not join as many villa groups on Facebook because I’ll guarantee someone is streaming a live villa game
i will have to, very frustrating with no streams i bought this dodgy box to watch um and they got themselves relegated thoughtless gits
why does this happen. them players are all capable championship and above.,its baffling how no matter the changes we make or made. we always throw in gutless away performance, or half a game decent the other half dire performances. defeat this week and we are hunting for a manager. then all these posters wanting bruce out will have their wishes. but that’s only half the job who wants the villa job we always say everybody does. but is it me or can everybody remember managers saying i don’t dyche moyles thank god Eddie Howe that’s just off the top of head, more distanced themselves,
brian little anybody or sod it let terry take over
Only two games gone in the league and one in the cup I think we need to relax a bit. I know it doesn’t look good at the moment . I will give Bruce a few more games to get his act together. I believe Newcastle had a bad start last season. Utv
1 point more than Newcastle but after that I’m sure they manged 48 points from the next 18 fixtures
Well after two defeats they won the next ten straight – I remember that. Can you see us doing that?
Even the cup game the warning signs were there
Normal service has resumed – full of optimism over the summer for us to fall back to earth with the normal thud of reality… The club seems to drain players and managers like kryptonite around Supermans neck – god knows what the answer is, maybe we are all living in the past and expecting too much ????
You should listen to uncle OOHAGH you know I never sugar coat it. I told you we’d be around midtable again this season and that’s where I expect us to finish unless Bruce goes
I think we will be around mid table whether he stays or goes mate – God knows what the answer is !!
Not sure where any optimism was coming from. We were dreadful for pretty much the entirety of the time Bruce was here last year and the signings over the summer were a joke. Chris Samba, a mercenary who was instrumental in QPR becoming a farce, Whelan who’s legs went about 3 years ago, etc. How can anyone feel we could do any better this season.
Bruce has offered no solutions, regurgitates the same old cliches and has shown he is totally out of touch with the modern game. I’m afraid to say Wyness seems another dinosaur of the Bruce ilk, who is badly advising the club.
Wolves are showing us how to rebuild, their owners look a lot more clued up and they weren’t afraid to bin Lambert and have brought in a top European coach, with excellent young hungry and technical players. Dr Tony must act now otherwise his credibility and investment are going down the pan.
Problem is…. what is the answer, the club has tried most things and we have been utter sh1t for years…. Should we lower our expectation as fans, as it seems the club certainly has !!
Decision making has been horrendously poor for the best part of the last decade. However, that does not mean expectations should fall. We have no divine right to win this league, however when you consider the investment and financial advantage we have over so many teams, our inability to compete at the top of the 2nd tier is a massive failure and one that falls primarily at the door of the management team.
We IMO have needed for years to stick to a philosophy and build on it. Thats why managers like Wagner or Jokanovic are invaluable and successful at this level. They bring players to fit their systems and stick to their beliefs. Currently we have no style, no philosophy, no tactics. Players like Hogan or Hourihane haven’t just turned to shit having been stars at their previous clubs, they are being used completely ineffectively by an outdated manager whose idea of tactics is putting Chris Samba, a washed up old mercenary, upfront and hoofing long balls for him.
villa having no playing style, philosophy, through the club from top to bottom is something that has been happening for years. not the fault of current manager. but is being addressed now. players like Hogan hourihane Lansbury I think these are not totally down to steve bruce alone.but they have a system, a panel where names are discussed.
samba was used once, just to change things up. hull had managed to cope with everything villa threw at them, so for the closing stages they tried something different. most teams do this when pushing for a win. teams like utd and everton used Fellaini. like this.
we all know the problems around villa. but what are the solutions we all want to know the solutions and the club need to. they have experts there like brian little ian taylor both have claret and blue blood. you can bet that they are searching for the answers.
does that sports devil not work anymore, ???? been trying to get a link for the spuds game. nothing 🙁
Nath join a spurs group on Facebook maybe you’ll get a stream 😁
nothing bloody works, call this technology lol where’s my hammer, I will try spuds fan for the day
Try the Russians for any EPL games. They do not have them all when more than one are played simultaneously, but they have the best at that time and all that stand alone time-wise. Put these words into IE or Chrome search engines “VK.COM football blood” and it should lead you to the site. NB very important you need an ACE player not any other media player to make it work but this is a free download.
just been reading that internet providers will be blocking illegal streams including kodi boxes starting with 2017~18season. so that’s probably reason why my tech is failing today. football was a sport of the working classes. now that my football is being blocked, I will have to upgrade my tv to watch the football or NOT.
I wonder if all the foreign countries will have their football blocked by their internet providers or is this just another rip of the British. conversation on this blog will suffer. with nobody seeing the games, we could relying on what the papers say or radio. channel 5 coverage of the championship is about as good as villa football
All true but like I say above because the EPL & SKY/BTSPORT have sold their TV coverage to several foreign countries, those countries can broadcast it to their people how they like. Probably because their domestic TV is still decades behind the times they broadcast it by streaming direct to computers. All you need then is that link. Click on the advert for the game to open up the channels and copy the Ace stream link into the Ace player stream ID. What you get is HD pictures with Russian, Bulgarian or Romanian commentary.
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What’s OTT Langford. How do I know what country to set VPN to.
So with this VPN can I watch every prem game and championship. Why set it to USA why not uk thanks
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Ps does it have to be watched on computer or can it go onto tv thanks
I’ve just watched the extended highlights and wow, we looked absolutely awful at the back. So sloooooow!
I’ve also just watched SB’s post match interview and he looks truly gutted.
Worryingly, I didn’t see any hint of him knowing how to sort things.
Also, I logged in to AVTV yesterday, only to see that I apparently don’t have any subscriptions.
Yet guess what arrived today?
An email receipt confirming a recurring payment.
Unbelievable 🙁
What the hell is going on with this part of the club?
Somebody will probably blame Bruce for your subscription issues
Lol….well he has had 2 games to fix it 🙂
Nath…should have said every 3pm PL game, not every game!
Expected to wake up to news that charlie has sacked dinosuar Bruce but no he has not lernt his lesson from signing up dematteo instead he in china counting up his money like scrooge mcduck and this utter shyte i hear from so called villa fans still defending bruce wake up and smell the coffee you dumb f ucks nothing is gonna change worst thing that could happen now is that bruce blags a couple of scummy 1-0 wins by getting an early goal and then putting 100 players behind the ball play hoof ball for 70 mins i want them to loose and losse badly next game so charlie can get them jack duckworth specs off and see that bruce is wrecking the villa with his utter shyte tactics
When he came to villa he asked where the chalk board was they said times moved on steve we now have whiteboard but it dont matter anyway his forst tactic talk was ‘why aye man we play like this bang it up to centre forward, then to wings, then wing nob it up to back peg and striker nods it in’ because i cannot imagine it getting any more texhnical than that and for the rest of the tactic talk he gets out the wagon wheels while he drags out the VHS and starts bashing the old bish to his playing days of 1989. My point is this utter shyte is getting more and more accepted by the fans where is the passion anymore we just seem to accept this shower and its getting worse and worse i mean we sign glenn f ckin whelan and people get excited we sign john f ckin terry we are only about 20 years to late to sign these players next he will be signing up his old pals from united paul ince and dennis irwin because feck me he defintely dooes not need any attackers with these tactics and anyway we got abonglanhore he will save us vite with your f ckin feet vote with your f ckin voices lets get this deluded old dinosaur out kf villa park and if i hear any cheering in next game when we make another 2 yeard f ckin pass im done with this shower
Post allowed John, but please try and add some punctuation.
I leave you lot for two weeks and mayhem, what the fuck happened? I wouldn’t mind but befriended a Cardiff fan and boy was I glad to get off that ship. I haven’t seen sod all of that match but reading comments we was dire again. I give up are we going to be a big club or going into oblivion. I’m gutted.
Welcome back to Blighty Bill and mahyem – hope you brought plenty of vodka with you – might need It! :-). 🙂
Bill…welcome home! Hope you had a good time! Yesterday was abysmal mate. All I got for my trouble was a hangover and a sore throat. On a more positive note, enjoyed the company of 5000 amazing Villans. Worry not as we will be in the top 4 before the end of October and promoted in May!
thank you langfordvilla 🙂 I will definitely look into that. that ipvanish I have been researching all afternoon, but i was undecided sounds dodgy. but if this helps me to watch my football I am in
Nath…what do you think is dodgy mate. Haven’t paid Sky or BT for more than 3 years. What box do you use….I have an Amazon Fire TV. Let me know if you need any help setting up mate!
I just thought it might be a scam. i got a amazon firestink pre loaded. i just downloaded the ipvanish it will cost 8.99 monthly. fingers crossed
Nath…,dont pay that much. I only pay £46 a year shop around. If you need any help FB me!
ive downloaded, but its not activated i intend to shop around, the price is 8,99. now that i know it works i will try to find to get it cheaper. i am already paying a fortune for internet which keeps increasing.
@ Langford.
“Worry not as we will be in the top 4 before the end of October and promoted in May”!
You do spout some bollocks. Weren’t you the same bloke who constantly used to put “we will not be relegated”? More bollocks spouted.
Post also allowed ITK, but don’t get too insulting 😉
We like to develop a bit of a relationship first before we slag each other off 🙂
Fwiw, Langford has accepted that we were poor yesterday.
I don’t neccessarily agree with his overall positive view, but a bit of optimism doesn’t hurt, imo.
Badger…may be wise to take down my earlier posts regarding OTT TV and IPvanish…..authorities may not like them!
And I’m not the slightest but worried about abuse…nothing changes my positivity lol 🙂
Done 🙂
ITK….AKA as BWS me thinks…!
ITK – just as a matter of interest what are you ITK about?
Frankly I’d rather read Langford’s positive posts than all the negative stuff on here. Having said that we are all realistic about yesterday’s dire performance but don’t believe the solution is as simple as appointing a ‘young foreign manager’!
There is a deep rooted cancour at VP which is not easily removed – but then the young and optimistic lack the synicism that us old and negative tossers have experienced through our lives! 🙂
Onward and upward – the future is claret and blue.
UTV
Cheers Langford, I’m pushing the boat out now, I’m now looking for a clairvoyant, don’t care how much it cost but I must find out what the hell going on. If we lose anymore think you’ll have to agree the writing on the wall, we all stuck with him but hey do we have men or mouse, me thinks mouse springs to mind. I cannot take more of last season results but it started again.
Bill…only 2 games mate. Yesterday was shocking. I can put up with poor displays but not lack of effort, desire or commitment! Thats totally unnaceptable! Yes, Bruce got the tactics wrong but as I said yesterday you cant convince me that he asks them to play without passion and determination…..thats solely down to the players! Having said that, Bruce must have seen what I saw and he’s responsible for making sure it never happens again! If he can’t do that then I will be calling for his head as this will mean he’s lost the dressing room!
Hello Bill.
In fairness, I think we all knew our opening games were going to be tough.
It’s not the results that bother me so much, but more the manner of them.
The performances have not convinced me in the slightest.
I expect to be expanding on this after the Reading game.
thanks you all,for your help guys 🙂 you should delete my post a few minutes ago as well badger sorry lol
Nowt wrong with using a VPN mate.
ok 🙂 my granddad used to say that word nowt and yonder lol
Nath PM me on FB…dont pay £8.99 a month…shop around. I only pay £46 per annum. It works out at less than £10’per month with the service I suggested earlier! Just pm or mail me. Will even set up for you if your willing to lose your fire stick for a 3 or 4 days!
i replied further up lang. but i will shop around. i am not a tech guy, but i used you tube that showed me how to set it up. i followed it. but then i came to the price, it was freedownload but monthly fee.
i will continue tomorrow with it 🙂 thanks for your help
Ok Nath…but the offer is there if you want it! Could set up for you and have it back to you within 4 or 5 days mate.
I see bacuna has officially joined reading if a player is ever up for a game Tuesday night don’t look much further than bacuna
Oh no…I was dreading that would happen! Has the story been written already? 87th minute winner by Bacuna. I wouldnt have let him go before Tuesday!
i joked earlier about that very thing. but in football that sort of thing happens more often that than not. he has received some abuse rightly or wrongly and he will want to have the final word. i wish him all the best, but i will have fingers crossed he doesn’t do us over and have the last laugh
Bacuna might not have been the best player in the world and he did say some silly things but to blame him for all our ills is just silly. I wish him well and if he does for us on Tuesday we only have ourselves to blame.