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  1. Badger123
    Badger123 June 30, 2015 at 8:18 pm . Reply

    If we have indeed made a bid for this player, it’s the sort of story coming out recently that really boils my piss.

    How on earth is a player at this price going to be an improvement on Cissokho, who has been told he’s not in Sherwood’s plans?

    My opinion says we’ve had more than our share of average/rubbish left backs who might come good over the last few years and we need to spend proper money in this position.

    How LB apparently seems to be deemed less of a priority than the goalkeepers is totally beyond me and if this is the calibre of the sort of player we’re looking at, we’re going to be in trouble yet again next season.

    And then Joe Bennett’s position hasn’t been confirmed yet.
    I’ll confirm it on the club’s behalf;
    Not good enough and never will be, get rid, imo!

    I sincerely hope that story is utter rubbish.

  2. Ardent Villain
    Ardent Villain June 30, 2015 at 8:29 pm . Reply

    71 games since 2010?

    Do they only play 20 league games each season in The Netherlands?

    [That might explain why Vlaar can’t manage more in a season over here as well…]

    Of course, there’s the small matter that Ajax haven’t actually come out and said that it was Villa who’ve made any bid for the player. But maybe I’m just being pedantic.

  3. Badger123
    Badger123 June 30, 2015 at 8:31 pm . Reply

    Ah, but that’s the thing Adam.
    It’s not an indicator of who Sherwood thinks is good, imo.

    It’s more a pointer at how little money he will get to spend, whilst trying to transform an utterly poor squad.

    That said, my point about this player over Cissokho still stands.
    Dumping Cissokho and maybe Gil smacks of poor decisions, which I suspect are based on personality alone. That doesn’t bode well, if I’m right.

    The window opens tomorrow doesn’t it?
    Let’s hope we see some decent action or at least better players being linked.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath June 30, 2015 at 9:09 pm . Reply

      Nothing says bullshit quite like “according to Sky sources”.

  4. Darren
    Darren June 30, 2015 at 8:47 pm . Reply

    Amavi is a much much better player. That would have been an excellent signing. Unfortunately he doesn’t want to come to villa. Wouldn’t personally take Boilesen.

    1. Badger123
      Badger123 June 30, 2015 at 10:18 pm . Reply

      Who would want to come to the Villa at the moment?

      If we want to improve matters, the club has to spend more money, in wages and higher transfer fees, more commensurate with where we expect to be .

      If Albion can offer Ba a rumoured £60-65k AND pay a fee, why the bloody hell can’t we?

      It’s not a rant at you Darren, don’t worry 🙂

      Just stating the obvious in that if you keep doing the same thing and expect a different result, there’s something seriously wrong.

  5. langfordvilla
    langfordvilla June 30, 2015 at 8:58 pm . Reply

    Poundland again. If we only have a pittance to spend then both Gil and Cissokho should stay IMO,….its that simple!

    1. domingo
      domingo July 1, 2015 at 1:02 am . Reply

      i agree both gil and cissokho should be kept . i didnt see aything wrong with either of these players when you compare them to some in our squad BUT they have a sell on value which the likes of bennett, given and n’zogbia do not . sell to buy again never mind poundland.
      pray for a buy out and pray hard my friend !

  6. Badger123
    Badger123 June 30, 2015 at 10:04 pm . Reply

    Agree Langford.

    On a different note, Nigel Pearson has been sacked for being incompatible with the board or something.
    After what he’s done at Leicester?

    The game has gone totally mad.

    1. pat57
      pat57 June 30, 2015 at 10:21 pm . Reply

      Absolutely agree. A manager brings you up to the PL in the first place by playing good football and keeps you there by doing the same right at the death.

      Hope Leicester go down next season and we can watch it happen from mid-table mediocrity

      UTV

    2. Andrew
      Andrew July 1, 2015 at 7:46 am . Reply

      Has it though? I mean if there are said differences in what should be happening then Leicester should be sacking their manager. Could very much cause a disruption if he doesn’t agree and get his way. We already know how he is in the media, can you imagine the breakdown behind the scenes?

    3. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath July 1, 2015 at 9:55 am . Reply

      Probably to do what happened recently with his son being sacked badger

      1. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson July 1, 2015 at 11:19 am . Reply

        That’s what I think Oohah? His son.

  7. langfordvilla
    langfordvilla June 30, 2015 at 10:18 pm . Reply

    Yes Pearson sacking as shocked me especially after their great run at the end of the season. Can we bring Albrighton back?

    The players we are linked with are nothing short of embarrasing! Its pitiful to see that we are bidding (if true) for players worse than we already have! Moreover, none of the latest 2 rumoured players have any PL experience!

    What worries me is that its widely known that even the bottom team in the PL next season receives a MINIMUM of £99 mil. … Which is a real incentive for Randy NOT to invest if he is still at the helm. …real worrying times ahead IMO!

  8. Andrew
    Andrew July 1, 2015 at 1:51 am . Reply

    Makes me laugh comments from Villa fans. If we offered 5m for Boilesen fans would be happy solely because of the price tag, doesn’t even seem to matter about talent with our fans anymore. Lets go for Austin because he has a 15m price tag, not because there’s better out there for cheaper, his price tags cool and that makes us “look” good. Boilesen is probably not the answer at LB, although he did captain Ajax the last 5-10 games or so, but our fans need to get over this price tag garbage.

    1. Darren
      Darren July 1, 2015 at 7:56 am . Reply

      Very true, exactly what I do often think. Just because a player doesn’t cost a fortune doesn’t mean he is craps. Look at Sevilla purchased Rakitic for €2.5m Vidal €3m Bacca €7m Krychowiak €4m all sold or valued at €20-30m after 1-2 years at the club. I could make a massive list from them but I won’t waste my time. Fact is all these players are class and came cheap.

      1. Andrew
        Andrew July 1, 2015 at 9:16 am . Reply

        That’s what we have to do.

        I also often read comments about Premier League experience. These fans need a news flash too, the teams that go for Premier League experience often finish in the bottom ten. Largely the top 10 sides, or at least the top 6 are filled with foreign players and the odd 4-5 homegrown talents. We don’t need Premier league experienced players, they often cost far more than they’re worth and they tend not to be very good. I’d rather us raid the Dutch league for players costing 2m than going for players costing 7-8m just because the price tag shows there’s money. We had a guy who wasted money, most fans hated him and still bring him up in arguments about manager’s who waste money, yet they want us to go the same way he did.

        1. saddened
          saddened July 1, 2015 at 9:37 am . Reply

          I think people are more pissed off with the fact, we get linked with big named/money signings and end up with cheap dross – our league position is a good indicator or our clubs purchasing skills and desire – e.g. Bournemouth pay 8m for a left back, we offer 1.5 – and get turned down !
          I agree its not just down to price tag, but why can’t we go out and buy an expensive singing once in a while.

          1. saddened
            saddened July 1, 2015 at 9:39 am . Reply

            “singing = signing” – urrrhhhh

          2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath July 1, 2015 at 9:57 am . Reply

            We are finished as a serious club now it will be another generation at least until we become good again.

        2. Badger123
          Badger123 July 1, 2015 at 6:50 pm . Reply

          Andrew, yes the top 10 clubs buy foreign and indeed, I agree it’s the way to go.
          Now name me some of the top 10 that buy players rated around £2 mill, as their mainstay?

          The likes of the top 4 have way better scouting networks than us.
          So why aren’t they taking the blindingly obvious route of saving a fortune and buying £2mill class players?

          Agreed, the price doesn’t particularly mean anything.
          Except that the higher the sale price, the higher the chances on average of a player actually being any good.

          Stop pandering to the BS and accept that the club’s owner is quite simply bending us over.

          I will of course happily retract this if we actually buy players that might actually be an improvement in what we have.
          IE, at least 5-6 players at £5mill plus.
          And even that wouldn’t be any great shakes, particularly if we do sell Benteke.

          1. Andrew
            Andrew July 1, 2015 at 7:02 pm . Reply

            Not pandering to anything. I just find it hilarious people whine about price tags. Of course we can’t compete with the top 4, their scouting networks or their funds. But the likes of Southampton aren’t going to and buying mediocre English players all the time, are they? That’s the point I was getting at. Southampton’s bought Juanmi and Cedric (latter Clyne’s replacement) for a combined £8.5m. together. Not each, together. They also signed Stekelenburg on loan, would Villa fans be happy with that? Of course not, because that’s a loan, we can’t do loans, we’re supposedly a club well above getting loans. They spent £30m last summer after earning £92m from sales. When have we even come close to making that kind of money on sales? Bar the whole Young, Milner, Downing, Barry sales, we don’t make money on sales, in fact our owner loses money on 95% of the players he buys for Villa, so why the hell would he go out and spend £5-10m on a player when we’re not going to make money on them? Benteke’s the only one we’ll make money on. Maybe Delph but he won’t leave.

            My point is, people keep complaining about money and price tags, when price tags mean nothing. Look at Tottenham and Liverpool last season. They spent huge money, absolutely giant money for teams who failed again to get CL football. Tottenham now reportedly won’t spend over £15m on a player because of the likes of Soldado and Lamela.

            I think what fans need to realize is they need to be more realistic. Just because there’s more TV money doesn’t mean Lerner pockets it all, the money he spends isn’t solely on transfers, wages, marketing, etc, etc. It’s not just transfers and boom, he keeps the rest, and that’s where I think our fans are completely clueless.

    2. langfordvilla
      langfordvilla July 1, 2015 at 11:57 am . Reply

      Well here’s 10 reasons why buying cheap/free RARELY works at Villa!
      Senderos
      Cole
      Stevens
      Bennett
      Bowery
      Lowton
      Helenius
      Tonev
      Sylla
      Westwood
      Out of those 10 only Westwood and Lowton are good enough for a Championship Club, non are good enough for the PL…I rest my case! Bacuna/Gil/Sanchez are perhaps bottom 6 PL standard….whoopee! Great free/cheap signings my arse!

      Totally embarrassing for a club of Villa’s size!

      1. Badger123
        Badger123 July 1, 2015 at 6:55 pm . Reply

        Yep, says a lot that, Langford.
        £2 mill players = mostly crap.

        1. Andrew
          Andrew July 1, 2015 at 7:04 pm . Reply

          They were Lambert’s signings so I don’t know what anyone expects. I’d obviously disagree with Westwood and even Lowton at times, but agreed on the rest.

          1. Badger123
            Badger123 July 1, 2015 at 9:37 pm . Reply

            Lambert’s signings?
            Ah, now that’s a different debate.
            Suffice to say, he was utter crap once he bottled it, so it’s fair, imo, that we take him out of the equation.

            Southampton? They’re a one off, so not really comparable, but yes, they’re getting it right and that’s what we need to aspire to, but haven’t managed.
            Who’s that down to?
            It certainly isn’t the fans, who are simply asking for a bit better than what’s being offered.

            Even the two players you mentioned averaged £4.25 mill, which is way above our current state, it would seem.

            My biggest concern about Sherwood is that we’re asking him to turn lead into gold.
            Even if he can perform a miracle temporarily, it won’t be sustainable, hence we’ll be back exactly where we’ve been over the last few seasons.

            Loans?
            No, I don’t want them. Where do they get you, apart from training another club’s players?
            An exceptional one, maybe, but it’s all too short term and does nothing for the club.
            Frankly, it’s just an admission in our case, that we yet again won’t pay the proper rate for players, imo.

            Liverpool and Spurs, partially agreed, but no-one is asking us to spend £15 mill or so on players, are they?
            We know that’s miles out of our league under Lerner.
            But we just want a fighting chance, I reckon.
            And £2 mill players aren’t going to give us that.

  9. Andrew
    Andrew July 1, 2015 at 7:41 am . Reply

    Well, should make people happy. Villa are linked with Idrissa Gueye, would cost around 9m.

    1. Badger123
      Badger123 July 1, 2015 at 6:58 pm . Reply

      It doesn’t particularly make me happy.
      Because I very much doubt it will happen.

      1. Andrew
        Andrew July 1, 2015 at 7:05 pm . Reply

        £9m price tag though we’re linked too. Should make a lot of fans happy because he costs a lot.

  10. Adam
    Adam July 1, 2015 at 10:52 am . Reply

    Looks like Benteke is going to Liverpool, Fee agreed behind the scenes. Don’t think their fans realise what a good player they are getting.

    1. domingo
      domingo July 1, 2015 at 11:08 am . Reply

      there fans seem so disappointed. they are so deluded . was just on a few fan sites and there all saying he is not good enough for them . you have to laugh.

      1. JB
        JB July 1, 2015 at 11:17 am . Reply

        Best thing about all these Liverpool fans moaning is that ‘he doesn’t fit their style’ – are they so moronic to realise the reason they’re crap is they only have one style and they ain’t Barcelona who can get away with it!! getting a crakcing player who is not always injured, one bad injury doesn’t make the player prone…

  11. Muzzvill
    Muzzvill July 1, 2015 at 11:38 am . Reply

    It’s now been reported no deal in place as the bin dippers won’t pay the 32 mill they won’t pay above 25 so no deal

  12. domingo
    domingo July 1, 2015 at 11:44 am . Reply

    benteke and his agent are says no deal has been agreed with liverpool according to a Belgian paper . hmm makes me think his agent is trying to force other clubs to move for benteke by leaking bs to talksport that a deal is close. im calling shenanigans by benteke’s agent. might be proved wrong but i think benteke still wants to join a club in champions league.

  13. Colonius81
    Colonius81 July 1, 2015 at 11:46 am . Reply

    If we are the market for a striker Gould benteke go – I think we should look at loic remy. Falcao has signed for chelsea, they only really play with one up front and remy has proved he is a prem striker.
    Not getting a game last season and with falcao now there – who knows
    Bit ambitious perhaps but it’s silly season and all that

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