Will we let Gardner go?, thoughts on the Watford game and congrats Leicester

If the stories are to be believed, not only do Notts Forest want Gary Gardner, but so do Burnley and Brighton.
Burnley are guaranteed promotion to the Premier league as of tonight and Brighton have every chance.
Hence both clubs might seem a better short-term prospect compared to the Villa.

But then, Gardner’s a Villa fan and has been with us through the academy hasn’t he?
So you would immediately think that he won’t be interested in any permanent move away.

Except he’s hardly played for us over the last five years and if you look at his Wiki, his appearance record is pretty poor, mainly because of injuries.
Indeed, his average number of appearances in a season is 17, although I’m not quite sure what that indicates, except that there’s a reasonable disconnect between him and the club now.
So it wouldn’t surprise anyone, if the old loyalty just isn’t there anymore.
And what must he think anyway, as a part outsider, who obviously still has the contacts to know exactly what’s been going on at the club.
Perhaps he might feel he’s better off away from it all?

All I know is that we’re now in a position where we need experienced Championship players.
And surely Gardner is the most experienced we have in the whole squad, who by all accounts has done a very decent job at Forest?

Fortunately, he’s contracted to us until 2018, which means we won’t have to sell him without a nice chunky fee.
And only a short-sighted owner, who wants to claw money back at any cost to the club would let him go.

As for the Watford game, I’ll keep it brief, as most has already been said.
I watched most of the game, where I thought we were poor against a poor Watford side early on.
But we did seem to get better as the game went on.
It was still no surprise though that we conceded 3 goals, all late on in the halves.
Will our defence look any better, even if they were all to stay, in the Championship? I seriously doubt it.
At least Lescott and Richards will be gone, so there’s hope, I suppose.

And I can’t finish without saying well done to Leicester.
I’ve seen a comment that suggests we shouldn’t really care about other clubs and to some extent, I agree.
But the Foxes winning the title means much more than it being about one club.
It’s one in the eye for Sky and the 4, 5 or 6 clubs that are usually involved.
It’s proof that while money usually wins out, it doesn’t always and teamwork and togetherness is just as important.

When you consider that the whole Leicester team cost around £40 million and Van Gaal has spent around £250 million “improving” Man Utd, so I spit in the eye of Sky even more.
And I laugh while I’m doing it.

There is a downside though, because Sky will just play it up as a fairytale type story and use it to their advantage, in hyping up the fact that even a previously relegation-threatened team can win big. Where in reality, money will indeed usually win out.

Still, this is such a big story that it’s world-wide news.
And more power to Leicester.
Every club is entitled to win big once and I’m truly glad for them.
Even if only because it’s a refreshing change from the Sky created status quo.


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  1. nath
    nath May 10, 2016 at 8:50 pm .

    hard luck for under21’s there are quite a few players in that team that could easily step up to first team, especially championship lvl was a strong arsenal team with a few experienced 1st team players in there strangely, wenger must of wanted this badly,

  2. Andrew
    Andrew May 10, 2016 at 9:27 pm .

    Chambers, Coquelin, Campbell and Cazorla… I know the latter’s probably gone by the end of the season but that’s a fairly strong team Arsenal played. Definitely odd they’d go all out but hey, it was for promotion. The kids did well though. A few of them look good enough to at least get into the team next season.

  3. pat57
    pat57 May 10, 2016 at 10:53 pm .

    Not surprised at the scenes at West Ham. Reminded me of the time we went down there for a cup tie (QF 1980 I think) and we lost 1-0.

    Fans were vile, aggressive loudmouths and the police kept us penned in until well after the game. Long enough for the so-called ‘fans’ to reach their positions where they pelted our coaches with bricks and bottles. Eight year old kids f’ing and blinding at us. Never, ever have I seem such hate at a game of football.

    An old guy in front of me said, ‘Christ what would have happened if we’d won?’

    So not surprised that the Man Ure coach got the same treatment, they’re just reverting to type.

  4. pat57
    pat57 May 11, 2016 at 8:16 am .

    Just a footnote to the unsavoury scenes outside West Ham last night. Anyone remember when we went down to there for a cup tie (QF 1980?). We lost 1-0 and the police kept us penned in so that the West Ham fans could man their artillery positions for when our coaches left. Bottles, bricks and god knows what were launched at us.

    An old man in front of me said ‘Bloody hell, what would have happened if we won?’

    So not surprised. Class (or total lack of it) will out eventually.

  5. nath
    nath May 11, 2016 at 6:21 pm .

    just seen lewis kinsella will not be offered a extension, now i don’t mean to be a expert on players. but i seen him a few times, he also played against arsenal other night. he was solid defensively and he tried to go forwards with purpose. surely we need a manager to make these decisions. who is making the decision on this and other contract renewals.

    kinsella might be the new managers cup of tea. fail to prepare ….. prepare to fail …….

  6. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson May 11, 2016 at 6:34 pm .

    Nath, what does that say? To me nothings changed, how can they say hes not the player we need.ive no idea on him but it tells me dont move Bill till they prove otherwise.

    1. nath
      nath May 11, 2016 at 6:40 pm .

      i understand the stance we cant employ a new manager until the imaginary sale is done. but standing still AGAIN while other clubs plot their new campaigns. its ludicrous kinsella could be a decent left back, cissokho amavi both likely to move this summer. bennett who knows apparently hes looked good in 10 games for wednesday……. but surely we need a manager to make footballing decisions.

      1. DSVilla
        DSVilla May 11, 2016 at 7:13 pm .

        Ha! Just posted the same point on the next thread regarding letting a new manager decide these things. I just don’t get it. The only explanation I can see is that his contract was up and it’s another cost saving as no compensation required. If so it’s utterly ludicrous.

  7. VillaFan
    VillaFan May 11, 2016 at 6:35 pm .

    Di Matteo suddenly new favourite?

    What the hell is going on at VP?

    1. giddyvillan
      giddyvillan May 11, 2016 at 6:54 pm .

      No thanks I thought we’re looking for someone with plenty of championship experience????

      1. Andrew
        Andrew May 11, 2016 at 7:07 pm .

        Technically has some, got Albion promoted to the Premier League… Then got sacked the season they were in the Premier League but hey…

  8. giddyvillan
    giddyvillan May 11, 2016 at 6:42 pm .

    All I can say about Lewis first hand he certainly looked comfortable in a harriers shirt & became a fans favourite almost immediately.I wish him the best for the future hard to gauge his abilities playing against national league players but he’ll settle nicely in a a div1 or possibly higher standard of team.which begs the question why get rid???

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