Villa – Wolves; and I have a bad feeling

Badger is away sunning himself in Gran Canaria so I’m filling in this week – to be fair though we’re having some issues with the site which has prevented Badger from writing an article.

Wolves had a poor finish to last season and Nuno Santes left in the summer with Bruno Lage taking over – another Portuguese manager – with Wolves continuing in the same vein. However their results have picked up of late with three wins in four and haven’t conceded in their last two away games.

Wolves are unbeaten in their last five games at VP – their best run against any specific team – now why does that sound familiar?

Wolves squad news; winger Trincao misses out follwoing a positive Covid test otherwise they have no fresh injury problems.

As for Villa it has already been pointed out Bailey is still not fit and Traore is also likely to be side lined with a thigh injury picked up on International duty with Burkino Faso – I really do dislike these international breaks! It appears that both Sanson and Davis are fit and are  in contention although I’d be surprised to see either start.

Martinez (now rated the best GK in the world by Mr. Messi) and Luiz are  expected to start even though they’ve only just got back from involvement in the WC qualifiers in South America. It seems Villa contributed (with six other Premier Leagues sides) to the renting of a private jet to fly Luiz back in time for the match – very eco friendly! 

There has been quite a lot of comment that Smith’s formation of using Watkins and Ings as a front two with Ings playing off Watkins rather than playing as an ‘old fashioned’ CF  – which is surely his strength – is not working.  Badger has questioned whether Ings was wanted by Smith or whether it was a rushed strategic buy to pacify fans after JG left. I’m not so sure – Ings can normally be relied on for goals –  but the paucity of goals from this pairing more than suggests the current arrangement is not working; will Smith change things tomorrow with Watkins playing wide or running the channels – I very much doubt it .

I also worry about our relative lack of creativity and lack of width with both Bailey and Traore out. I assume that El Ghazi will start; now I like EG but it just depends which version turns up on the day! Buendia can provide some width but Smith has chosen not to start him which begs the question as to why? I accept players do need time to settle into a new team but at £38m I would have expected more from him than we’ve seen and that’s a worry considering he was brought in to provide creativity and create chances for the front two.   

It seems many fans would also like to see McGinn playing in more forward role with Ramsey and Luiz sitting in and looking at his performances for Scotland it’s hard to argue with that.

I assume that Martinez will play and the rest of the defence picks itself. I didn’t see last week’s game being at the London Marathon but by all accounts the defence – Mings in particular – were poor and we lost a game where we should, at least, have picked up a point. They will need to be better organised tomorrow if we are going to get anything from this game.

Given that Wolves generally set up to contain and look for goals on the break, I can’t see this being a high scoring match though they they pose a significant attacking threat with Hwang and Jiminez linking up well since the former came into the side three games ago.

I just don’t see us winning this one and am (again) going for a draw 1-1.

It would probably be remiss not to mention the recent purchase of Newcastle backed by the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund with a value of circa £230Bn making them the wealthiest club in the World – apparently. No doubt we will have to suffer much fawning from the media and watch as they flout the FFP rules with impunity! Does that sound like bad grace on my part – yes well! 

What is unacceptable is the way in which Steve Bruce is being treated. Now like him or not, he’s a decent bloke trying to do his best and to be left hanging with the media openly discussing who’s going to replace him is just not right. 

A more important question is how does this affect NSWE’s plans and will it change their views over future investment in the club? It seems that we are still fourth richest in the Premier League and Citeh have shown that winning the league is not a given no matter how much money you throw at it. 

As Adam remarked, it would be very interesting if Newcastle got relegated before they had time to splash the cash – we can but hope!

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  1. Roy Bracy
    Roy Bracy October 22, 2021 at 9:35 pm . Reply

    No I’m the other idiot 😂

    1. Mark
      Mark October 22, 2021 at 10:12 pm . Reply

      I can predict Smith’s post-match comments.
      “Our performance in the second half meant that we deserved to get something out of the game. I was pleased with how we reacted to going two goals down, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.”
      Instead of “ We were absolutely abysmal in the first half and were lucky to only be two-nil down. Tyrone has blown his chance time after time that he will be dropped next game and the captaincy will deservedly be given to John McGinn. As for Matt Targett, my Granny can chase back quicker than him.”
      Smith will ignore the glaringly obvious fact that our defence is at sixes and sevens too often and concentrate on the second half performance instead.
      Naz and Wes…. step forward and make a decision please.

  2. little8
    little8 October 22, 2021 at 9:40 pm . Reply

    Me too nice away kit though

  3. Roy Bracy
    Roy Bracy October 22, 2021 at 9:47 pm . Reply

    Nice kit but not doing them any good.
    Do you think Smith is close to the sack? And if so who could replace him?
    Yes Ramsey oh what miss by Watkins that would have made things interesting

  4. Mark
    Mark October 22, 2021 at 9:50 pm . Reply

    Can we ask Norwich for a refund for Buendia please ?
    Anyone who thinks Mings should be captain and playing for England, take a look at how this pretentious, gum chewing, Billy Big Bollocks, smug waste of space defended Smith-Rowe’s goal.
    When is Smith going to wake up and drop him.
    Smith is so tactically inept that a change as manager is so badly needed that, if it doesn’t happen, we are so much on a downward trend, we will be looking at a relegation battle rather than a shot at Europe.
    For those who got so carried away with the Old Trafford win, you only have to see how poor United are to realise it was nothing special.
    For me, there is so much that needs changing, not just tactically but also some of the playing staff.
    My choice to get rid would include Mings, Targett , El Ghazi, Nakamba and the manager.
    I know Smith deserves credit for getting us in to the Premier League and maintaining our place. However, I believe he is now out of his depth

    1. Sidforever
      Sidforever October 22, 2021 at 10:11 pm . Reply

      I think Smith will now be out on notice. Results have to improve.

      The buck stops with the manager. The system of 3 centre backs leaving a sparse Midfield to accommodate 2 attackers does not work.

      If Smith goes back to it, then he does deserve the sack.

      Smith blatantly reused to play Watkins on the left. As soon. As he did tonight, we looked dangerous.

      If I was Smith I’d play:
      Martinez
      Targett Mings. Konza. Cash
      Louiz McGinn. Ramsey
      Bailey. Ings. Watkins

      I’m not sure why the level of Mings hating. Overall he adds value to the team. I know he is vocal on political items, and that is up to him.

  5. OLL again
    OLL again October 22, 2021 at 9:56 pm . Reply

    Smith’s ludicrous comments that there wasn’t a collapse against Wolves have come back to haunt him – what shall we call today? Our set piece coach is in the firing line. He had a poor record before joining us. His job is at both ends. If you field light-weight short-arses like McGinn and Buendia then when defending corners they should be left upfield for a break away. All McGinn did was prevent Mings getting to the ball before the scorer.

  6. Tom
    Tom October 22, 2021 at 10:02 pm . Reply

    I’m fully expecting a sacking in the morning.

    1. WARRIOR
      WARRIOR October 22, 2021 at 10:36 pm . Reply

      It was a one side performance and we were pathetic Smith has got it wrong again top six at this rate we are heading into the relegation zone thoroughly dissatisfied WARRIOR

  7. little8
    little8 October 22, 2021 at 10:04 pm . Reply

    Awful its gone backwards we played well last 20 mins but the game was won for the arse
    Where do we go now ffs

  8. Roy Bracy
    Roy Bracy October 22, 2021 at 10:06 pm . Reply

    We should be able to get a refund on buendia as he’s not fit for purpose 😂
    Why the hell buy a player from a relegated team who may have been good in the championship which is where villa are going
    Yes drop mings till he learns and bring in hause who should not have been dropped also Ramsey deserves to play from the start

  9. badger123
    badger123 October 22, 2021 at 10:13 pm . Reply

    That first half was the worst I can remember in ages.

    I’ll tell you now, the knife isn’t out yet, but I’m checking out the grindstone and it looks like it’s got plenty of grit on it.

    I can stand a loss, no problem.
    But the obviously having got it wrong and doing nothing about it is what does me.
    The worrying thing is we just looked utterly clueless and arsenal, one of the lightest of lightweight teams just ran through us in the middle.
    I’ve been on about the weak midfield for ages and I know fuckall about tactics.
    Yet if Smith doesn’t see this in the first ten minutes today, there’s an obvious problem, imo.

    That said, some players were bloody pisspoor.
    Yet some must be totally discouraged at the same time.
    Ings has hardly had a sniff in all the time he’s been here, for instance and if he gets 10 this season, he’ll have done well.
    That’s an indictment on how we’re using players.

    Yep, that grindstone is looking fine.

  10. Holte
    Holte October 22, 2021 at 10:14 pm . Reply

    Well that was torture. I thought Buendia might have showed the start of things to come against Wolves but he was woeful today. Maybe we should have offered Arsenal £38m for Smith-Rowe instead of the £25m we reportedly offered.
    Can Smith turn things round? I’m sure the owners won’t be satisfied with our current position which will be worse after the weekend.
    I can’t help but think that Grealish single handedly kept Smith in his job. Unfortunately there is no player that we have to worry the opposition. Targett looks dreadful without JG in front of him to offer that buffer.
    It wasn’t a surprise that JT moved on to continue his development. The ROK departure however smells of things wrong behind the scenes. The nanny Macphee role seems to relegate us to the Pulis at Stoke days where we have resorted to over reliance on set pieces for goals. Maybe he should focus on defending set pieces after the last two games.
    My verdict is there are no positives to take other than Martinez having a faultless game which says it all when we have conceded 3.

  11. Mark
    Mark October 22, 2021 at 10:31 pm . Reply

    SidForever. My dislike of Mings is nothing at all to do with his political views.
    The plain and simple fact is he is not leading by example, as captain. Instead, he is too casual and complacent and this attitude has cost us too many times. His poor back pass against Chelsea, his venture in to the opposition half, leading to allowing Welbeck to score for Brighton last season, his failure to show Smith-Rowe down the line for Arsenal’s third goal tonight, I could go on.
    Not only that, I am certainly not alone in my thoughts on Mings.

    1. WARRIOR
      WARRIOR October 22, 2021 at 10:46 pm . Reply

      Thoroughly disappointed with our performance pathetic mings has got to go ings and Watkins isn’t working I’ve said it before our under 23 could have done better Smith got it wrong again

  12. badger123
    badger123 October 22, 2021 at 10:42 pm . Reply

    Buendia?
    Did he play?
    Hmm, like I said previously, I was told by a Norwich fan that he’ll take a while to settle in, but surely it still means you’re allowed to have a go?
    I smell massive flop, but assume I’m wrong.
    Nice to see Ramsay got the goal, but I thought he was a bit cheeky in the way he nicked it. That said. he was better lined up for the shot.

    I think we actually got off lightly today.
    It’s a good job i can’t get on the console to write a post, as it would have been scathing.

    A totally wrong setup, players who didn’t have a clue, look disinterested and didn’t match Arsenal’s workrate and a manager looking increasingly out of his depth.
    And that’s before I listen to his comments, which I’ll leave until tomorrow.

  13. Holte
    Holte October 22, 2021 at 10:43 pm . Reply

    I listened to Smith’s post match talk and I’m beginning to think he is starting to sound like McLeish, Lambert, Bruce…..
    If ever he goes back to 5 defenders and 2 attackers then I WILL call for his sacking. A good manager won’t try to force players into the line up because they cost a lot of money. A good manager will identify that the formation is wrong and will make changes before the game is lost.
    Also his comment that we were in the game at 1-0 but at 2-0 the game was lost! Did he not recall the Wolves game? 🤬

  14. Sidforever
    Sidforever October 22, 2021 at 10:53 pm . Reply

    Mark
    The beauty of the game is that we all have opinions. When I look at all the comments that often seem to blame Mings for everything it does seem that is an alternative agenda going on.

    All I see is that he keeps being picked for England. Yet I don’t have Southgate as a friend of Villa.

    The main problem has been the misguided decision to move from a flat back four to three centre halves and two wing backs, whilst trying to accommodate two strikers. The midfield is light weight putting pressure on the defence. The second half tonight showed that we are competitive when playing a back four with 3 in midfield.

  15. little8
    little8 October 22, 2021 at 11:38 pm . Reply

    Said at the start of the season that mings shouldn’t be captain as soon as he gets a bit of criticism he goes to bits and I see him now going backwards
    So gutted at the last 3 games a Norwich fan said at the beginning of the season that buendia was the best player they had ever seen at carrot Road so surley he must come good at some oint

  16. Big Fat Ron
    Big Fat Ron October 23, 2021 at 12:08 am . Reply

    Unfortunately, it feels like winter 2019 again. Smith out of his depth and inexplicably slow to react to the painfully obvious. Ironically, back then, I was begging for a back 3 as we weren’t coping with the level of the PL. He eventually did it against Burnley (when Wes was assaulted) and we won. Now it’s obvious he needs to go back to what he knows, which is the 4,3,3 with wide men. If that means dropping Ings or Watkins, do it! That’s what strength in depth is about. If Ings gets the nod, he knows he has to perform or Ollie comes in, and vice versa. Shoehorning them both in is not only reducing that competitive strength in depth, it’s making them both poorer players. Madness. Likewise for the defence. If two play, they know they need to perform, or there are two others who can, and should come in. But for all that to work like clockwork, the manager needs to have the courage to leave good players out, and also the courage to take good players out of the team when they’re not performing. At the moment, ‘good players’ are getting in the team but not performing, but then not being dropped, so there’s basically no competition for places. This results in a ‘what’s the point?’ mentality running through the squad. The result of which is disastrous and could well end in Smith’s departure, which would be a damn shame.

    Listening to Lee Dixon on 5 Live, it was 0-0 and he expertly explained how and why we were being overrun in midfield, resulting in Arsenal dominating and us struggling badly. But Smith didn’t react. Why not? This is a question that he needs to answer, if not to the fans and his bosses, to himself. How can you not react when it’s so obvious that a. there’s a problem, and b.it’s clear what the problem is?

    For what it’s worth (nothing) and accounting for Bert’s absence and Bailey’s ‘fragile state’, the team should be, in my opinion:
    Martinez
    Targett, Konsa, Hause, Cash
    McGinn, Luiz, Buendia
    El Ghazi, Ings, Watkins

    When all are fit, play Bert and Bailey wide and choose from Ings or Ollie down the middle. Simple. What was the team that beat Liverpool last season? Replace Barclay with Buendia and Grealish with Bailey. That’s it. Why are they trying to fix what, generally, wasn’t broken?

    I know it’s fanciful, but if Smith doesn’t make it, would offering Conte a sack of cash and a top 4 brief in the January window tempt him? Throw in some ceramic hair straighteners and a teeth whitening kit, and we could be in business…

    UT effing V

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum October 23, 2021 at 9:50 am . Reply

      I’d go for that line up. Mings and Tunz are terrible.
      On our day we could have easily won the last 3 games and we’d be in the top 4. But no…

  17. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 October 23, 2021 at 8:49 am . Reply

    Arsenal are not known to be a physical team yet (apart from running through our invisible mid field) they out muscled us – in that Smith was right. Watkins was physically blocked off several times so why didn’t he switch Ings – a more physical presence – to a central striking role earlier?

    The experience against Wolves I believe affected us significantly in the first half yet Smith persisted with the three centre halves rather than changing to a flat back four from the off, strengthening the midfield and start with a single striker. Yet he made no changes from the Wolves game when changes were required. What’s the definition of madness – repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

    I think Badger said that Targett is not a wing back. Last season playing in a back four with a wide mid field player in front of him, he looked a very good full back. He looks uncomfortable in the role expected off him.

    It’s easy to criticise the players – perhaps Smith needs to take a very close look at himself!

    Unless he gets a grip, like Badger, I suspect his reign at Villa may not last beyond the New Year.

  18. WARRIOR
    WARRIOR October 23, 2021 at 9:23 am . Reply

    Totally agree with all the comments D Smith has to look at his players that he has brought to the club not good enough or they are on the treatment table I also think that Smith is on borrowed time we are closer to the relegation than a top-six finish our owners have shelled out millions of pounds to and I can’t see them sticking with Smith much longer their ambition is to have a club in top six not 13th and going backwards bring on the young guns it’s our only way out of the mess we are in I’m feeling there is trouble ahead this not my Villa so shape up or ship out VTID

  19. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson October 23, 2021 at 9:42 am . Reply

    On a cruise now in Tenerife and it’s pissing down with rain. Watched that shower and after seeing that shit last night’s show sod it.please don’t tell me Smith knows about football because I don’t believe you .now off to drown my frustrations..

  20. OLL again
    OLL again October 23, 2021 at 5:52 pm . Reply

    It happened to Rugby players and it could be happening to football players, even in the Premier League. It is happening for sure in League 2. Bigger and stronger men are being sought, those with talent but not the physique get dietary help and intensive gym work. What does it mean? The Luca Modric and Lionel Messi size of player still has a role if they have exceptional talent, but how many of their size in one midfield?

    Buendia, Douglas-Luiz and McGinn could each play in a successful team – one at a time. The other midfielders need to be powerful, Villa with all 3 were out-muscled by Arsenal’s more powerful players, and there is no way of changing that.

    Smith eventually changed enough for Villa to pose a threat and score, but obviously too late. The job he has requires him to anticipate the oppos strengths and weaknesses, and know our own. Do that right and Villa start with a working formation and tactics. Do it wrong and you get yesterday’s performance. I think Smith may be looking for seasonal work come Xmas: Santa Claus – he may have the sack already; or pantomime – Ali Bi and the 40 excuses.

    1. badger123
      badger123 October 23, 2021 at 10:06 pm . Reply

      I’m not sure I agree with that, OLL.
      Part of me gets what you mean, but teams have gone down the big player route before. Think Pulis and Warnock etc.

      Yesterday wasn’t so much about how the players were physically bigger than ours, but how much space they were given because of the none existent midfield due to numbers.

      That said, Watkins is definitely a total lightweight this season; god knows why.

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