Let me get this straight from the off.
I’m utterly disgusted at the result today.
The fact that an ex Walsall player put two goals against us, says it all.
But I firmly believe that sacking Steve Bruce is not the solution to our problems.
I know. That’s going to go totally against the grain.
But there’s something badly wrong. There has to be.
Consider Nigel Spink believes there’s an over-hanging cancer at the club.
And now Tony Morley, after saying at half time that we could easily beat Barnsley, now seems to also accept that there’s something seriously wrong down the Villa.
I respect Morley and believe he can read a game.
I also believe Steve Bruce can read a game and is not a manager who has to rely on other so-called tactitians to tell him what to do.
So why are we starting out with the set-ups that we are and not making the subs when it seems they’re required?
Is Bruce really that poor a manager?
I’m not having that as an excuse, personally and think there’s something we’re not seeing from the outside.
That said, on the face of it, it’s simply appalling.
Morley says he can’t understand why we don’t make the changes when it’s blindingly obvious they’re needed.
I’m the same.
In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Bruce wants the sack.
Which if you seriously think about it, is a frightening thought.
Because if someone of Bruce’s experience in handling players can’t cut it, what chance has any younger manager got?
Am I talking rubbish?
Think about it again.
Look at the managers we’ve had. The players we’ve changed. The hierarchy we’ve changed. The coaches etc we’ve changed. And even the owner.
Whatever has been changed, it simply hasn’t worked.
So is changing the manager again going to work?
I’m afraid I just don’t see it.
That said, I know my arguments aren’t going to cut much ice.
Morley said we could beat Barnsley easy, at half time, but basically described us as a load of jellyfish ten minutes after.
The facts are that if we carry this on, we’re going down; no ifs and buts.
And I know it’s what you’re thinking too.
And it’s why I’m reluctantly putting a poll up.
Sad days.
[polldaddy poll=9665168]
I could go along with Rowett, if we’re going to go down the “total strip back and start again” road.
Would the support generally go along with that sort of strategy though?
One that might involve young players and the risk it brings?
I’m not convinced.
And I doubt Xia will be ready for that quite yet.
Hitch,
Wyness might not be quite as good as we think.
There was an article in the Brum Mail, I think, that talked about how he rode rough-shod over the fans’ views re the Kirkby stadium move and out-sourced everything.
It would seem it’s no co-incidence that there have been complaints over corporate over the last couple of months.
It certainly opened my eyes.
Stop the negative whinging and just SUPPORT……we have, and WILL come back from far worse than this!
Bruce is the man to bring us back next season!
JV….Stop you constant moaning especially about Hutton….sent over a wonderful cross for Kodjia (again), defended excellently and me (and all the fans around me in the Holte) couldnt believe it when we was hooked! Dont you have anything to say about his ‘Man of the Match’ performance?….no, thought not!
And I’ll say this again!
We never lost at home this season when the following ‘much maligned’ players were in the starting 11!
Bunn
Gollini
Richards
Gabby
McCormack
Westwood
Bacuna
Just saying!!!
Cut out the negative shite…..its what puts me off this site!
langford
are you blind adoamh crossed for codja
and while youse happy clappers salute king spud i will point out the crap hutton included
mom when we lose 3 1 at home to barnsley and what the fuck was he doing for 3rd goal yes hutton give another 4 year contract
“We won’t go down!”
Yea, ok whatever Langford.
In fairness Langford, some of the comments on other sites are way more negative and they’re certainly not isolated to here.
Me, I’m doing my best to keep a balanced perspective, but it’s difficult when you consider most fans can’t see where the next point is coming from, let alone us winning games.
We need to bear in mind the facts, which are that we have the worst form in all four divisions, I believe and a “goals for” nearly as bad.
I’m all for optimism but I don’t see that any of those players won us a game either, except maybe RM on one occasion, fwiw.
Opinions work both ways and I’m sure you’d agree a site full of happy clappers isn’t what we want.
I honestly can’t fathom how anyone could back Bruce. Stability for stabilities sake is not a reason nor is this experience BS. What experience did David Wagner, Jaap Stam, Carlos Carvahal have with vastly inferior squads and money spent.
I wouldn’t even give Bruce a 1 out of 10 for his job at Villa. The Mccormack farce and his gleeing to his press pals, bringing that tosser Gabby back, the goalkeeping farce, the negative tactics and awful lineups and subs. Its been a complete nightmare and aside from 45 minutes against Brighton there hasn’t been a good performance. Di Matteo was sacked for less. I think Tony will bottle it this time though and the consequence could be league one or long term championship strugglers at best.
dont write the truth here villian1 its spud love in, i didnt post for couple weeks yet 3/4 keep using my name when they post
7 defeats out of 8 to cardif wolves brentford ipswich barnsley forest spurs in cup and a draw after been 2 up at home to preston
Didn’t see you when we were winning did we?????????
play school let you out giddy
So you can’t answer that part timer
With all due respect just when was that Giddy?
bws
dont bother with giddy he just of the bottle and mammy wont give him his dummy
spouts rubbish week after week
You want to get fucking personal Junior Villan bring it on at least I’m on here win lose or draw, not just to fucking gloat about your hatred of bruce so whind that tiny fucking neck of yours in
giddy
mammy take your dummy again
you are one of the ones keep using my name because your that far up bruce has you cannot see the crap he is producing hull swansea new managers player not needing time to gel funny its just bruce
but maybe mammy give you your dummy if ask nicely
My mum passed away in 1981 so go on keep pushing me you fucking piece of undesirable shite & I couldn’t give one fuck if I’m banned
Ok…keep your negative shit to youself. It beggars belief that people are calling for Bruce’s head after less than half a season in charge! Have you forge the previous 5/6 years of total neglect? How quick do you think ANYONE could turn that around with a completely new set up and a completely new squad (almost).
Running a poll for ‘click bait’ purposes to make money (dont deny it) is shameful and pathetic!
FFS……stop moaning and SUPPORT….I’m out of here. I hope the few positive posters on here will not be crushed by the negatives.
Never forget….we did not choose, we were CHOSEN……dont use this privileged position to be negative at every opportunity!
hope you continue to post your positives views, some ppl do appreciate them. we are all angry and mystified why we are not improving. we should be experts now with all we have been through.
i think iam gonna be silent for a long while, or until the mood and forms improves.
Click bait to earn money?
That’s a bloody step too far Langford!
I can assure you we don’t make a single bloody penny out of this.
Have you not noticed the major lack of advertising?
And fwiw, I fund every penny of it out of MY pocket, because I’m interested in hearing what other fans think regardless of view, as long as it’s kept reasonably respectable.
The exact same reason I put the poll up.
Frankly, if that’s your attitude, you can piss off!
But hopefully it’s through beer or stress or something and no doubt we’ll have both cooled down later.
Badger, what I’m going to say is I was close to going in with you both, I’m Villa born under the stands, lights wasn’t in then, Robo jumped ship thank you both for taking this site on, Now we are all Villa lads, it hurts and we all feel it, let’s stay that way.
You’d be few hundred quid down mate! 🙂
It just annoys me when people suggest we do it for the money.
That’s never been important.
But you’re right, we’re all on the same side.
Just we have different views, which should be respected.
Well at least some of us appreciate it Badger 😀
If we won Monday guaranteed some fuckers going to find something negative to say.
No Giddy ,it would be a relieve mate, i get where Landfords coming from but let’s face it, we are going backwards, I’m Villa , I’ll kick any arse for them, but its gone tits up. We need to find out now how to stop this effing slide, falling out won’t help finding why will.
well said 🙂
nobody knows why,,, but we all want to know.
I find it fascinating.
Some think it’s a “Spud love in”, while others think we are too negative.
Just like the Villa, it seems we can’t do right for doing wrong.
Most importantly, it tells me the site is reasonably balanced and probably quite realistic, as is seen in the divide re Bruce and the way things are going.
If we continue our current losing streak past 10 games then I think any owner would consider sacking the manager.
Personally, at this stage it doesn’t matter where the manager has been or what he has done at other clubs, it is now about what he has achieved at Aston Villa.
21 matches: 7-5-9, 33% ratio (which for Bruce is pretty much on par with his past clubs)
For me, I don’t see things getting much better. I don’t think we’ll go down, but Bruce is fighting a losing battle. If he hasn’t lost the dressing room it is only a matter of time with the supporters getting upset. For the past two weeks he has been blaming the players for not stepping up, but sooner or later he need to stop taking responsibility for things and just sort his house out. Both Johnstone and Bruce’s poor subs, tactics have cost us more points this season than any other person at the club. Like it or not, he now has a negative dressing room and for the past 2 months he has gone into every half time speech giving the squad a hair drier treatment. It should be no surprise that the players have begun to turn off.
We are all pissed off at the moment , I am shocked with what is happening at the Villa. Bruce said he can turn this around let’s see if can. Sack him now then who comes in. Villa might shock us again and beat Newcastle .
we have had too many managers that have lasted under 28 games since sherwood. they all have inputted their philosophies in there short times, its ok saying sack sack sack. all this bad football, mistakes,zero pressing all balls down to lack of stability. so whats the answer sack bruce and hire another guy for 28 games and then he implements his tactics and we sack him.
soon we will win a game in division 1 just like coventry and wolves dropped too. the well run clubs ones that have stability are in the premiership great clubs like burnley bournmouth
All this talk about sacking Bruce is farcical. Over the last however many years no manager, with the exception of Paul Lambert, has been given enough time to turn things around and given the restraints that Lambert was put under he done a bloody decent job!
We went through massive massive change during the summer as well as signing 7 new players in January so it’s no real surprise that we ain’t clicked yet.
Yes Bruce is responsible for results but given his record at this level I believe we have the best man to achieve what we all want, a return to The Premier League.
Constantly sacking manager after manager hasn’t and isn’t going to work. If proof is needed look at how many managers we’ve had in the last 3 years and where it’s got us.
New owner who’s put his money where is mouth is. New players who have proved to be successful at this level. A new manager who’s record in this division is 2nd to none and a new board with football people on it. That’s everything that this time last season we were all crying out for. Well now we’ve been given it how about they get given a chance to put this club back where it belongs.
Given that so much has happened in a short space of time and a few predicted (rightly) it was going to get worse before it gets better then why are the same people calling for even more change? This was never going to be a quick fix.
Lerner spent years ruining and bleeding this club dry it’s going to take just as long to get it back to where it was.
We’ve been given everything we asked for last year. Is it not a resonable request to give them a decent amount of time to put it right? Afterall the club weren’t exactly smelling of roses 6 months ago when Xia and his team came in was it?
exactly …… top post B6
just like to add we changed loads in summer also / so we are trying to gel a new squad not easy….also the good dr has invested time and money but changing again as B6 says new manager new ideas will want surely his players / were will this end ?? likely with the good dr saying enough is enough
Hmm, the poll seems to have taken a turn in Bruce’s favour.
60/40, which suggests the “stayers” are winning the debate.
But the site’s too negative???
I’m not seeing it, looking at that.
Ah, sorry.
I’ve still got the hump at the suggestion that we only do this for the money 🙁
Badger we know you do the site for love and most of us really appreciate it keep up the good work.
Cheers
You really don’t know how much I appreciate that comment Bri.
Ta mate 🙂
I think I’m beginning to get an inkling into how Bruce feels.
i think lang was angry, when we are angry we hit out, we are only human and sad. their are some ppl with agendas, out to just wind others up. just cause certain ppl have their views. doesn’t give you the right to ram them down others throats. we can all have our say. with also allowing others their,even if thats not in agreement with your own. that’s our rights. would also be a boring site with us all agreeing all the time
we are all grateful we have a blog or site (not cpu savy) like this and i am appreciated theirs somewhere i can get shit of my chest, read other views. so the ppl running this blog page, we thank you.
100% the best blog site out there for anything Villa related.
Badger, you put a poll up asking do you like and want this site, i bet you would get 110 % saying they love it. I most certainly do. I even tell others about your blog.
Ive saved thousands of pounds in smashed tvs by being able to vent frustrations out on here! So thanks!
Yep…..totally agree this is a top site…..I may not post much but I visit every day and there are some great posts that show the passion we all have. As a fellow Erdington boy now exiled in Tamworth keep it up Badger et al.
UTV
This is a top site – The tantrums and arguments only goes to show the enthusiasm and passion, some of the comments make me cry with laughter.
We are in an awful time as Villa fans but this blog is one of the positives…..
Keep up the fantastic work…..And Badger don’t bite, you just have the post holiday blues !!!!
Love the site Badger and thanks for all your hard work. Even when I don’t comment I read the blog. It’s not negative either, but the tone is bound to follow the fortunes of the team
+1
Badger don’t let snide comments get you down, Wish we had a ‘bullshit’ tag we could click on for some of the so called fans who post here.
Oh well they say that the sweetest things in life can attract flies too.
Are you for f**king real? He who whined and whinged like a biatch about the dislike button (cause people kept disliking his comments? Oh diddums!) NOW wants a bullshit button?
Please do put one on, cause as sure as good made little green apples you’d be toppa the charts Pat with the @.
Doesn’t that answer the question Badger, top site keep it going mate.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/3-reasons-aston-villa-must-sack-bruce-and-appoint-gary-rowett-immediately/
All in favor say aye!
bws
read the report on new psg manager ,young hungry eager to succeed ,gives players videos on opposing players to watch,one player mathiau wasnt watching gave him blank copy ,asked him next day did he watch it, spuds idea ask gaby get him another kebab
Here’s is a good watch http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ex-aston-villa-boss-john-12614939