Villa 0 – 4 Chelsea; others thoughts as well as mine.

Given the state that the club is in, we haven’t had many people submit posts over the last few months, but I got hit with a couple shortly afer the game yesterday and here they are, first from “Richard Webb”;

Why?? Watching villa chelsea match I think the manager should sack the first team and play the under 21 team.
To me they all are playing for the money and not the club. They all should be ASHAMED. What has the caretaker manager got to loose???
Drop the LOT and play the players who would give everything to play for Aston Villa.

And then, on a brighter note, from “Martyn Bishopp”;

I was at Feyonoord in 82 and Super cup vs Barcelona (got that out of the way), today I took my 10 yo son for his 1st game at Villa Pk vs Chelsea. Embarrassed as hell, but my son enjoyed the large spectacle.
When he asked why I was laughing out loud, I had to tell him about a fans song I just heard.
“He’s got a new car, he’s got a new car” You know the rest.
When Chelsea fans sang “we’ll never play you again”, Villa fans reminded them “Champions league, Ta Ra Ra”.
With fans like we have, we will be back.
Thanks to them for making a difficult day entertaining!

Which pretty much sums things up doesn’t it?
Those who actually bother to turn up are fuming and rightly so.
While Richard has possibly been turning up regularly and was just venting, Martyn’s post is perhaps the more worrying.

How are you supposed to persuade your kids to support the Villa, when even Leicester are streets above us?
It’s not like we don’t have enough on our plate in trying to challenge the traditional top 4/5/6, is it?

And even though I didn’t see the game, it turns out I wasn’t that far off the mark in the preview really.
The players tried a bit, but not enough and ultimately just weren’t good enough. Which I believe is ultimately what it boils down to.
But it’s mainly because too many of the team weren’t ready to be thrown in straight away in my opinion.
It’s a point that I think Sherwood might have been totally right about, with my 20-20 hindsight.
But now that they have been thrown in, they’ve been found wanting and their heads have dropped.

That’s not to say we don’t have some shirkers in the team though and we all know who they are.
But the likes of Gana, Ayew and Hutton have tried mostly.
Yes, even Hutton, who apparently got a standing ovation yesterday, even though he’d been sent off.
Ok, he’s been poor overall, but he has at least tried, hasn’t he?
And that’s all we want, as fans.
We can stand being beaten by better sides and have plenty of grace about us to applaud an adversary that’s simply played better than us.
It’s what the game’s about, after all, isn’t it?

So just as I was gutted that I couldn’t get to see the game, so I was dismayed to read some of the punters’ comments.
The killer was David Pleat saying Chelsea looked like they were playing against a load of cones in a practice session.
I think I’m glad I didn’t get to see it.

So it seems if Norwich do better than us next week, we’re down.
Not that any of us believe we could win every one of our games left.
Rather, my tongue in cheek comment a couple of weeks back about us not getting another single point is much more likely.

Part of me says let’s get the season done and dusted.
But there’s a big part of me that’s seriously worried about next season.

The Martyn and his lad scenario is the most upsetting side of all this though.

That said, my old man (God bless him) first took me down the Villa as a nipper, when we were in a worse state than this and
MY EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY! of all but the FA cup.
Hopefully Martyn’s nipper’s eyes will too.

There’s no doubting Villa’s fans, if you give them something to get behind and cheer about.
But we have to be careful we don’t lose the kids.

Do I smell a “kids for a quid” type campaign coming on; for EVERY game in the championship?

Hmm, there’s a thought.


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  1. VillaAwayInDiv3
    VillaAwayInDiv3 April 6, 2016 at 9:19 pm . Reply

    A bit off subject (or not)…..our season or maybe many recent ones is being played out in Europe with PSG and City….its 2-2 at the moment and all goals are like the many we let in…..just so funny to watch….and a missed pen as well.

  2. originallondonlion
    originallondonlion April 7, 2016 at 12:40 am . Reply

    Another break with the history of the club. It should not be forgotten that McGregor and a good many of the founding committee of Aston Villa were Scotsmen. North of the border, and before WWII anyway the word PREPARED did not quite have the same meaning or use as in England. The best example being the starter of athletics races in England would say On your Marks, Get set, Go, but in Scotland he would say On your Marks, Prepared, Go.

    Fully ready for the task ahead? No – I can see how the present team and management have lost the right to the Scots’ use of Prepared. I hope they can earn the right to put it back.

    1. BWS
      BWS April 7, 2016 at 12:53 am . Reply

      Probably somethingto do with George Ramsey too, Scottish connection, the Lion Rampant.
      Perhaps we adopt the Queen Park FC motto “Ludere causa Ludendi”.

      1. BWS
        BWS April 7, 2016 at 12:55 am . Reply


      2. pat57
        pat57 April 7, 2016 at 7:14 am . Reply

        The Lion Rampant was the Royal flag of Scotland –

        You can see the close similarity to the Villa lion.

        Apparently the English lions are ‘passant’ (isn’t Wikipedia wonderful)

        1. originallondonlion
          originallondonlion April 7, 2016 at 11:35 pm . Reply

          And there is one more reason. The site of Villa park was once a zoo, open to the public and the property of the owner of the nearby mansion. Allegedly the lions roamed (well, paced anyway) where the pitch now is and the gymnasium for the payers (now gone) was the giraffe house.

  3. pat57
    pat57 April 7, 2016 at 7:28 am . Reply

    TBH just compared the old and new badges for the first time and the old one does look a bit like a pussy cat while the new one is quite ferocious.

    Hopefully a statement of intent for the future.

    (If you disagree you don’t need to vote – it’s just me clutching at straws again)

  4. pat57
    pat57 April 7, 2016 at 12:09 pm . Reply

    Looks like we’ll have to wait then according to Pat Murphy –

    ‘Aston Villa have made no approaches to anyone to fill the vacant manager’s job and it may be some time before they do so’.

    I’ve said we should get someone in sooner rather than later but it looks like those of you who were for ‘later’ may well be right.

    Oh well what do I know?

    GIDDYVILLAN April 7, 2016 at 1:33 pm . Reply

    We’ll probably be left with the scraps that no one else wants

    1. saddened
      saddened April 7, 2016 at 2:29 pm . Reply

      Giddy – not just scraps – Cheap scraps !

  6. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson April 7, 2016 at 2:29 pm . Reply

    The board are playing it like poker, to announce a manager now will not get you and I to buy seat tickets to next season. They will hit us all at the same time with promising you cheaper seats ,New manager, New players , old ones out, that they hope will up the trade. Start from scratch is the philosophy and draw us in.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 8, 2016 at 12:23 am . Reply

      Yep we will be re branded the new villa with yet another 5 year plan and a process we must go through. Yawn. The usual bs speak for saying we are going to stitch you up fir another 5 years. ST prices will probably stay the same as they will argue there are more home games in championship even though they will be against shite teams with zero entertainment value. This is our chance to boycott the club but as always the sheep will still buy tickets and merchanduse

  7. marvin
    marvin April 7, 2016 at 3:54 pm . Reply

    Personally I think it is silly to think the club could convince any manager to take the job before we are mathematically down. It isn’t about sale of tickets or selling merchandise but more about giving a new manager the sole task to building us back up rather than hastily appointing a manager in a futile attempt to keep us up. I know that sounds ridiculous, considering we all know we are down now – media included – but history and stats don’t remember such details. At this point it is a waiting game because no one good manager wants the stain of relegation on their cv, ie Garde. As soon as we down for good then we should see some names making the rounds.

  8. Hitchens 60
    Hitchens 60 April 7, 2016 at 4:09 pm . Reply

    See Chris Hughton is gaining some traction in the manager race. Now before you all knock the idea – the guy has never finished outside the Championship top six when in charge for a full season – saved Brighton from relegation last season and turned them into challengers for promotion – that’s a pretty impressive CV. It would seem the board aren’t limiting themselves to Pearson and Moyes or any other currently unemployed manager – so it looks likely no appointment before the end of the season.

    I know he managed the Blues but is that a valid reason on its own not to employ a manager if he can actually benefit us?

    1. marvin
      marvin April 7, 2016 at 4:14 pm . Reply

      According to his wiki page – Hughton places great emphasis on two aspects of management: “As a manager, I’ve got to make sure they have the correct training sessions. That they are disciplined. That creates a good environment.”

      1. Hitchens 60
        Hitchens 60 April 7, 2016 at 4:32 pm . Reply

        Both needed at VP

      2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath April 8, 2016 at 12:18 am . Reply

        That’s a basic requirement of any manager. He’s also a far left liberal so will defend our useless players and make excuses for them. No thanks

    2. BWS
      BWS April 7, 2016 at 5:31 pm . Reply

      Houghton? That ain’t a bad call Hitchy.

      1. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson April 7, 2016 at 6:11 pm . Reply

        Would that be Eric Houghton? could do with him in defence.

        1. Hitchens 60
          Hitchens 60 April 7, 2016 at 8:08 pm . Reply

          Decent manager as well Bill if I recall correctly!

      2. Hitchens 60
        Hitchens 60 April 7, 2016 at 8:13 pm . Reply

        According to the media – he would be interested if approached but Is unlikely to apply for the job – can’t really blame him with the likes of Carver and Yorke applying. I doubt whether Pearson, Moyes et al will be applying either.

        Only around 25’s in the betting – might be worth a flutter

      3. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath April 8, 2016 at 12:14 am . Reply

        No thanks he was crap at Norwich and a far left Trotskyist liberal so will play the likes of Gabby and defend him as liberals like an underachieving underdog because they are so naive! Plus he’s too nice we need someone ruthless with our bunch of useless players! Not to mention he’s an ex blue nose so damaged goods.

        1. DSVilla
          DSVilla April 8, 2016 at 10:03 am . Reply

          Now there’s me thinking Trotskyists and liberals are completely different. I think Norwich fans were against him for negative tactics. Not sure about the Noses as I give them as little attention as possible. I can’t see any manager with a negative approach being welcome, whatever his previous club history.

        2. Sir Earl Barrett
          Sir Earl Barrett April 8, 2016 at 10:07 am . Reply

          Would he make the same excuses as staunch labour supporter and left wing socialist sir Alex Fergurson? I’ve never heard hughton taking about politics? I couldn’t care less if a new manager is a card carrying member of the Monster Raving Loony party if he’s going to turn us into a competitive outfit.

    3. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 8, 2016 at 12:20 am . Reply

      Yes it is no ex blue noses thanks. Mckeish got blues promoted and won a cup and we still hounded him out of VP

      1. nath
        nath April 8, 2016 at 5:38 pm . Reply

        i concur lol no X bluenoses

  9. pat57
    pat57 April 7, 2016 at 11:17 pm . Reply

    Someone doesn’t like the new badge…

    Agree with Jonny Gould that the round badge is better.

  10. originallondonlion
    originallondonlion April 7, 2016 at 11:43 pm . Reply

    There is sense in not appointing a new manager now, those available are available because they were sacked from their last jobs, and nobody snapped them up.

    This being an even numbered year we have a Summer tournament, so more football tittle tattle, and quite possibly some good managers will be given the bum’s rush by over ambitious owners who want to sign a departing national manager. The incumbent will be given the boot and a hefty wad. The latter may help them decide they can afford the challenge of Villa.

    1. marvin
      marvin April 8, 2016 at 3:11 pm . Reply

      Are you suggesting Roy Hodgson?

      1. originallondonlion
        originallondonlion April 8, 2016 at 7:22 pm . Reply

        Might make a good DoF. a bit past it for a club manager.

  11. steve
    steve April 8, 2016 at 10:37 am . Reply

    If we are supposed to be appointing a DOF to oversee football matters.
    Should he be in place before they appoint a manager.

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain April 8, 2016 at 1:02 pm . Reply

      Yes, that would be the rational, sensible order: the manager would report to the DoF, so you’d expect the senior one to have some say in who gets the job.

      Of course we’re talking about a football club, so common-sense probably doesn’t apply…

  12. swampduck
    swampduck April 8, 2016 at 4:04 pm . Reply

    gabbys got a virus thank fuck for that

    1. Hitchens 60
      Hitchens 60 April 8, 2016 at 4:08 pm . Reply

      How convenient!

    2. originallondonlion
      originallondonlion April 8, 2016 at 7:21 pm . Reply

      So that is what is is! I see that it has deleted all his work files, and when he presses RUN nothing happens.

  13. swampduck
    swampduck April 8, 2016 at 4:07 pm . Reply

    it is called the fat gabby virus

    1. pat57
      pat57 April 8, 2016 at 4:15 pm . Reply

      How dreadful!
      I’ve heard the only way to cure the Fat Babby virus is with P45 cream

    2. Bill Pearson
      Bill Pearson April 8, 2016 at 4:15 pm . Reply

      That’s the first bit of luck Villa had for the past 5 years,

      GIDDYVILLAN April 8, 2016 at 5:43 pm . Reply

      Shishaitis I expect it’s a sort of pleasant virus.

        GIDDYVILLAN April 8, 2016 at 5:53 pm . Reply

        Ps those pipes disagreed with me aswell.

  14. nath
    nath April 8, 2016 at 5:28 pm . Reply

    Bournemouth 23,20 too good not to slap on your accumulator. might as well make some money out of our misery. still no news on manager ??? poor gabby, i bet hes gutted missing out on some abuse.

  15. steve
    steve April 8, 2016 at 7:45 pm . Reply

    Gabby is an overpaid coward.
    Virus my arse the most predictable thing this week was that he wouldn’t be fit for tomorrow. Tosser.

  16. marvin
    marvin April 8, 2016 at 8:31 pm . Reply

    So Black officially appointed Jimmy Sinclair as his new coach/assistant manager? Good thing, bad thing – I know not.

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