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Villa 0 – 25 Crystal Palace

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Badger123
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Well, I’m sorry, but it might as well have been.
I don’t have much to get away from saying that losing to Palace 3 – 0 was an utter disgrace.
But what annoyed me most was the awful tactics employed by Unai.
Make no mistake, the tactics were horrendous.
Any man and his Jack Russell could see that it wasn’t working. We kept playing that backwards, sidewards rubbish that has bored the crap out of us for weeks.
It was blatantly obvious that playing longer was the way to try and counter the way Palace were dominating the game quite easily, with their playing a low block and playing long as and when was required. And then Emery actually started to play like that after about 30 minutes.

I’ve always said that I don’t have a clue about tactics and I don’t profess to having a clue now.
But when you’ve got an idiot like me screaming at Emery to play longer, I just know something is not right.
The more concerning thing is that if Emery thought we might suddenly turn things around, we have a serious problem.

I didn’t write a post beforehand because I didn’t think it would go down too well, as I was privately predicting a 2-0 loss.
That was bad enough, but for us to actually outdo it amazed me.

From what I’ve heard, the natives were seriously unhappy tonight.
The grandsons left early and I believe they haven’t done that before.

We are not in a position where we can afford to be in the bottom 3, which I believe we will be after our 4th game, which is Everton away.

Europa league?
You’re joking, the way it’s looking.

Emery is on thin ice already.

Another one or two losses in the same way as we’ve started and I’ll be calling for him out too.

I can stand losing, but the football is shocking.

People are paying top money for this and it isn’t good enough.
I’m just glad that I’m not one of those who is handing their hard earned over.

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30 responses to “Villa 0 – 25 Crystal Palace”

  1. Badger123 avatar
    Badger123

    Absolutely junk. Again. I’m so close to calling it.

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  2. Tony Hill avatar
    Tony Hill

    I think that you’re spot on. I don’t think we even looked like scoring tonight.
    And I’m sorry to say that I think Emery has lost the plot. He doesn’t have a plan B.
    The PSR fiasco has been handled very badly, as ahs the transfer window.
    Lastly, I really think it is time for Emery to go. We should go for Iraola from Bournemouth.

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  3. Roy bracy avatar
    Roy bracy

    What a load of rubbish this display was very similar to when we got relegated
    It looks like he’s lost the players and they don’t believe in the way we play anymore.
    Arsenal before he left springs to mind.
    I’ve said before that maybe his time is up but was criticised for it.
    I’m just glad I can’t afford to go to matches anymore, you might as well burn your money than watching this walking about on a football pitch.
    Rogers should be first to go in the morning don’t care what we get for him he’s just got too big for his head,buendia the only player that had any fight in him.
    The sky and Premier league and uefa have won well done
    Aston vanilla are back the team everyone licks,I didn’t think I’d see that again

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  4. little8 avatar
    little8

    Fucked by the powers tha be have to sell the best keeper ever to play for us just to comply with the scum that run the game absolutely gutted just like the country corrupt as fuck

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  5. Roy bracy avatar
    Roy bracy

    Didn’t villa want Somerville in the past look at him today.what the hell does monchi do other than buy and sell players.
    The owners have given instructions to get their money back i think,the system has beaten them and who can blame them.
    It’s looking like the end of the learner years again when we sold all our players and the manager left We’re going back to square one everytime we almost get there we get knocked back.
    Like bfr I’m thinking of quitting I don’t need this rubbish got enough in life as it is.

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  6. Holte avatar
    Holte

    I was thinking the same as Roy. It reminds me of the last days of the O’Neill era. Where we were knocking on the door and in Europe with a great team, before the likes of Young, Milner, Barry and Downing were sold.
    After that things went rapidly downhill, and we ended up relegated a few years later. I actually think we could be relegated this season in accelerated time. Emery for me is another 2-3 games without a win before we can seriously expect him to go. His tactics have been found out and he doesn’t have an alternative way of playing. Glasner has had his number for a while now but last week, to be outdone by a rookie coach with a bang average team, well that should be alarm bells!

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  7. Roy Bracy avatar
    Roy Bracy

    Glad you agree holte us who have followed villa for years (me since 1957 )68 year’s and seen the trends develop.
    We had great team spirit under Saunders (still best manager ever)
    I thought maybe emery and the setup he’d built would maybe be like fergie did at man u. But he seems stuck in his ways a bit like amorim at utd stubborn is another way of putting it they think the way they play is the proper way
    Pep is another one that I think has been found out in the way they play.
    Football has changed it’s so far been more direct turn over the ball and attack with pace and numbers. The days of passing around at the back trying to get teams to break rank and come to you are gone in my opinion.
    Their happy to sit and wait see what you can do and as you commit more men forward they pounce and outrun you,remember its easier to run towards a goal than have to turn and run backwards
    Like palace do and your already a yard ahead by time your defender turns.
    Hasn’t emery noticed that palace do it to villa every time,if they that brilliant against everyone they’d have won the league
    But there’s definitely something not right with the club with all the selling,and what was the loan that was taken out last December for it definitely wasn’t for players this summer, might it have been for January loans????
    And utd definitely got one over villa with this martinez business and might not sign him after all,but how is he going to get back afterwards with his teammates 🤔

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    1. Bill Evans avatar
      Bill Evans

      Agreed. “In Unai we trust” is no longer true.

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      1. Tony Hill avatar
        Tony Hill

        Indeed, the trust and faith is gone.
        Yesterday’s performance was wholly unacceptable, and I think unforgiveable!
        Out of the whole football pyramid, Villa are the only club not to score a goal this season; disgraceful!

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  8. Badger123 avatar
    Badger123

    I’m not even convinced Utd wanted Martinez, but something’s gone on, possibly agent talk. That’s really awkward now. I wonder if Martinez has the balls to apologise to everyone?

    Anyway, Sky are reporting that Lammens is a done deal and he’s on his way to Manc for a medical and Utd have decided he was the better choice for the club.

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  9. Badger123 avatar
    Badger123

    Aston Villa are in advanced talks with Liverpool over the signing of Harvey Elliott.

    The deal is an initial loan with an obligation to buy and the package under discussion is worth £35m.

    Sky Sports News understands there is a verbal agreement between the clubs.

    The 22-year-old is still awaiting permission to travel for a medical.

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  10. Roy Bracy avatar
    Roy Bracy

    Elliott good deal if happening sancho not sure was good but don’t know now.
    Martinez situation is a mess but he must go now he’s a rat look at what he did against man u last season I think he’s gone big headed believes he’s world’s best but to many mistakes last year. Please go and can we get Costa,ederson, donnaruma???

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  11. 1874 was a good year avatar
    1874 was a good year

    Dibu is in deep s**t. I’m sure that the Holte will still shout that he’s the world’s number one if he stays but number one what? (Insert swearword of your choice here).
    Signing Lindelof and Sancho on loan is not going to excite many fans but I think that Harvey Elliott could turn out to be a good move.

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  12. Hitchens60 avatar
    Hitchens60

    Not sure how Martinez / Emery square this with fans; going to be very difficult. He may still go as Galatasaray have shown interest and the Turkish transfer window doesn’t shut until 11th September (another EUFA joke) but that would leave us with only Bizot and kids!

    Given our very limited ability to deal in this window then I think Lindelof makes sense (he brings EPL and European experience and he is still captain of Sweden) and, if we get Sancho and Elliott – particularly Elliott who is a straight replacement for Ramsey – over the line then we will have done pretty well.

    Emery does have the ability to get the best out of players and if he can get Sancho ticking then the loan will be worthwhile.

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  13. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    Emi hasn’t quite been as bad as Isaak. Emery dropped him yesterday which is understandable…
    I think these new faces may be just enough!

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  14. OLL again avatar
    OLL again

    Lindelof was part of a porous United defence even with Maguire beside him. Not as good as Bogarde. We are paying nothing for him, but when is he expected to play? Elliott would be good: the Scousers have overbought attackers so this academy product is surplus to requirements. Sancho I have two minds about. Playing badly for Amorim does not mean the player is poor. Emery might be able to get him working.

    4-2-4 no good if your wingers won’t go past the fullbacks.

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  15. Sidforever avatar
    Sidforever

    To sum it up – it’s SCR that is screwing us up.

    Yesterday I left the match on the 74th minute – never left a match early before. Quite dreadful. Emery had tried to freshen it up but Malen looked useless on the right, never found space. Guessand was double marked and kept losing the ball. Rogers was Billy Big Boxxocks and the ball kept bouncing off him as a number 10. Second half when Rogers was on the left he was more effective, but has become a prima Donna.

    The starting point is SCR and players being told that if the right bid comes in the club will sell. And onto that the awful Utd performance to miss out on the Champions League, and a toxic problem is developing. Finally on the negatives, Emery needs to evolve the tactics. Walking football from the back with Mings looking to play an insightful ball forward does not cut it. Further, I’m sorry to say but McGinn no longer is in the starting 11 when all fit – a great sub but that’s it.

    The good news is- Harvey Elliott will be good in the number 10 position. Sancho had an ok season at Chelsea – they didn’t return him because he was crap / it was because he refused to reduce his salary. But we have not added real pace to the team, which means more of playing it through the middle and problems with the low block. And then Lindelof, experienced and free – and that’s the best we can hope for due to SCR!

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  16. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    Danny Murphy is LITERALLY making things up on TalkShite! And comparing Emi with ManU’s new goalie, saying he’s 15 years younger!!! Murphy is an utter twat.

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  17. Roy Bracy avatar
    Roy Bracy

    What i don’t understand and maybe someone can enlighten me,is how have Nottingham forest been able to bring in must be 10 players (bit like they did on promotion) when they had point’s deduction not long ago
    And Everton can spend freely after the same problem
    And what’s going to happen with martinez now does he go straight back into team or will he go to Turkey ifso we stuck with a no2 as main keeper and youngsters
    What a mess at least Elliott is good deal

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    1. Hitchens60 avatar
      Hitchens60

      Roy – two good points – how can Everton and Forest suddenly have no PSR problems?

      The media consistently refer to Villa’s PSR problems but I doubt that’s the real issue. It’s EUFA basically putting a transfer embargo on Villa for three years! When you look at it closely it’s disproportionate to any other ‘penalty’ imposed on other clubs.

      We can, of course, ignore it – it has no relevance to the EPL – but ignoring it means we wouldn’t be able to register new players on List A which severely limits our European chances.

      It’s complete inequitable and, like the EPL, favours the ‘establishment’.

      There needs to be a review of these restrictive financial instruments as it’s causing a competitive imbalance not just in the EPL but across Europe.

      If one was a conspiracy theorist it might appear that the European Super League is being subversively supported by EPL and EUFA further ‘funded’ by FIFA’s Club World Cup.

      Football is broken – there is no doubt.

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      1. Roy Bracy avatar
        Roy Bracy

        I agree with the conspiracy theory there’s definitely something fishy going on somewhere 🤔
        The Nottingham forest one is very odd when now they’ve bought 10 players and their in the europa so should come under the s.cost rules and they get less gate money than villa plus I would think less sponsorship money.
        Very odd and what was the loan villa took out which is mentioned on company house ????

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        1. Hitchens60 avatar
          Hitchens60

          I remember reading about the loan – can’t remember it’s purpose but I do remember it being reported that NSWE realised it and the interest payable are outside PFR so they said ‘why should we use our own money’!

          My guess would be work at either VP or BMH.

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  18. OLL again avatar
    OLL again

    Martinez will stay, because Villa cannot sign a replacement keeper.
    I hope Elliott’s arrival means Watkins and Rogers rarely appear together. They just do not have any affinity as a pair.
    The baffling lack of a start for Malen ends, now he was given a start and looked so ineffective. That must have been evident in training.

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    1. Hitchens60 avatar
      Hitchens60

      Agreed agreed OLL but what frame of mind will he be in?

      Not yet announced but it seems we also signed a kid from Scotland – Fletcher Boyd 17 – for £1m plus add ons. It seems he’s very highly rated.

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    2. Bum Bum avatar
      Bum Bum

      Hang on. Haven’t Chesty and Ollie got remarkable stats on the goals and assists with each other? For the last 2 seasons haven’t they been up there in the league’s top 3? I’m pretty sure I’m right.
      Doesn’t stop them being pants so far this season though.

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  19. Tom avatar
    Tom

    Big happy birthday to Dibu!

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    1. Bum Bum avatar
      Bum Bum

      Double Happy Birthday! The soft arsed twat! 🙂

      (I’d be effing furious at ManU for leading me up the garden path if I was Emi).

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  20. Hitchens60 avatar
    Hitchens60

    We have signed Boyd but as he’s under 18 it has to be ratified by FIFA and can take a few weeks.

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  21. 1874 was a good year avatar
    1874 was a good year

    I’m strangely okay with the window now. I think that Lindelof will be a better sub than Disasi and that Sancho, who played okay at Chelsea, will give us some much needed width. I also think that Elliott is an upgrade on Ramsey and that he will get goals and bring more energy up front.
    We have also hung onto our major talents which is another massive plus.

    BTW Badger, the lack of styling on the site is doing my head in. I’ve worked a lot on WordPress sites and if you want me to have a go at improving it just email me.

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    1. Badger123 avatar
      Badger123

      Email incoming. Feel free to do what you want.

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