So those of you who have been reading/contributing or whatever for a while will know that I’m not a fan of speculation because 95% of it is typically absolutely rubbish. But at the same time, I know some of you love it and given that I’ve just realised I haven’t written anything for over a fortnight and tomorrow is the start of the transfer window, it seems a good time to start this thread.
As per usual, we’re selling most of the team and buying a whole new premier league for our squad. Hmm.
It does seem though, that if you try and read in between the lines a couple of possible moves might prove to be reality. First is Douglas Luiz to leave at £50 million or whatever. While this is miles lower than the £80-100 million that has been talked about I think this might be a good deal for us.
I haven’t previously wanted him to go, but I now have a sneaky feeling that his agent and him have been trying to engineer a move. I know some have said his form dropped in the last couple of months, but I think it’s more than that. I think there’s been something very strange in his attitude and it was demonstrated by his sudden terrible disciplinary record. I’m going to go so far as to say that was some small form of a protest and demonstrative that he quite simply wants out.
I don’t think it’s a money thing. He wants a new challenge and his agent thinks Juventus is the place. Good. If you want to go that much, clear off. With my blessing. The club is bigger than you. I can’t say I’m particularly interested in Winston McKennie and the other lad coming our way, but we do need numbers in.
Second, is Jhon Duran to Chelsea for £50 million. That’s frankly laughable and half of that would be a good deal. I’m convinced the lad has a serious attitude problem, as much as I believe he actually has a somewhat valid reason for having it. The fact is Emery doesn’t yet deem him to be good enough to outdo Watkins and it’s as simple as that. And if he doesn’t have the patience to listen to the manager he can go. Particularly if he’s giving the manager a problem, which I think he is.
Having had another glance at the news, it appears Chelsea have agreed a £42 million fee. I’m inclined to think he could be a bargain signing for them, but if it isn’t working for him at the Villa, that’s a lovely amount of money in the pot to stave off this PSR rubbish.
Then, there’s Matty Cash. We’ve apparently slapped a £30 million price on his head. Where do these stories come from? I’d take half that if we have a replacement lined up.
And finally (although I’m sure there’s plenty of other stories) there’s Diegos Carlos, who cost us a fortune, given his age. I liked the look of him early on, but wouldn’t miss him now. That said, we need better defenders and I’m not convinced Mings is ever going to get back to where he was. Maybe we might do better keeping Carlos as a back up? No doubt he’s on big wages though, so I’ll trust the club’s judgement on that one.
Anyway, this is just a starting point. I’m sure many of you will be more interested in the speculation and chat about other rumours.
Me, I’m only interested in deals inked, whether in or out.
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Manure last game away let’s hope we’ve already wrapped the league up by then
Iroegbunam to Everton?
I’m not sure whether to believe that, but they seem pretty certain.
Probably good business for us, as he isn’t going to feature regularly for us, but I’m surprised Everton are in for him, given their money problems are worse than ours.
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-everton-agree-deal-to-sign-aston-villa-star-tim-iroegbunam/
£10m is good business as he hasn’t really shown any progress this season – suffice to say Emery didn’t see him as an answer to our midfield challenges and when he was given an opportunity he didn’t really show any quality.
He was one of my picks for an exit – interesting to see whether there is a buy back clause but I doubt it.
It is decent business. We’re spending money on bringing these kids through, but now we’re making profit, which is what always led me to criticise the academy before now.
We were constantly making nothing out of them.
Were we only playing at it before?
It would seem so.
Meanwhile, a valiant effort from the Czechs, but the Portugese prove too strong.
If only I could watch an England game and think that whatever happens, we’ll win, as I thought about Portugal tonight.
Austria and Slovakia have been great to watch. Albania currently beating Croatia…
Being reported on X (formerly twitter – why do they say that ?) That Villa have agreed a deal to sign Ian Maatson from Chelsea for £35m on a six year contract. He’s a LB so, if true, who’s for the door?
My money’s on Djgne which would be a shame as I thought he played really well last season whilst Moreno was injured for abou 80% of games!
Agreed. Wrong side of 30, and on over 120k per week. Still got some good value, and could see him fetching 10m+. Good business.
PS – unlikely to sign before 30th June!
Smells of number shuffling to me. I now fully expect Duran to go the other way even if we do out one of the LBs.
So basically pretty much a swap, but the accounts showing money coming in. For Chelsea, at least.
Badger and friends
It is reported that this deal may be slightly north of £35m. In Emery and Monchi I anticipate their success rate in buying the rate players will be spot on. Just watching UTV on YouTube and a good analysis of his data. Looks like a potential top performer aged 22 and will be on a 6 year contract.
What this says to me is that Villa are confident of meeting the financial limitations to balance the books this year.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13547957/Aston-Villa-Ian-Maatsen-Chelsea.html
We all have no idea what is actually going on…
I said I wasn’t going to look at transfer speculation – that’s turned out as well as all my New Year resolutions 🙂
However, this is more a ‘between the lines’ view of the Douglas Luiz saga.
According to several reports Weston McKennie is out of the deal having asked for a salary of £4m after tax and a £2m pay off from Juve. Big sigh of relief all round – sounds like a greedy individual. Villa then asked for an alternative midfielder – refused on valuation and then, similarly refused, a young full back.
We’re now on a fourth choice midfielder who (according to reports) is well down the pecking order. Comments suggest, given Luiz’s value, neither of the two substitute players valuations should have been an issue.
The fact that Villa are still considering the deal does give weight to Villa being over a PSR barrel and suggests we need at least £20m in cash out of the deal whereas Juve don’t want to (or can’t afford) to pay more than that as without McKennie they could simply up the cash element and we can look elsewhere.
Are we at risk of being forced to ‘give’ Luiz away because of the stupid PSR rules?
Luiz shouldn’t be going. The man scores from corners for crying out loud!
No change same side to go again , looks like Southgate made new friends with same as same as . I’m hopeful he drops a goolie with this one because it’s boring football from him .
Bill – you and me on the same page.
Watching yet another boring, Southgate uninspired performance. Got a goal now let’s go to a low block and defend for 70 minutes.
Well done Denmark – look by far the better side.
One word – pathetic
Denmark totally deserved the goal and probably to be winning. Southgate and his coaching staff are pathetic and clueless. I would replace them at half time if I could.
The only other thing that is as annoying is the England commentary sympathizers. At least Micah Richards had the nerve to say replace Kane with Watkins to the gasps of everyone around.
And Thomas Frank, with honesty, says Southgate hasn’t got the balls to do it (in coded language of course!).
Southgate makes the same substitution as against Serbia – which didn’t work then!
Come on Southgate show some inspiration – you’re the manager!
Even Shearer has suggested Southgate put Watkins (a forward with blistering pace) on alongside Kane.
But we know Southgate won’t do that!
His whole approach is a low block defensive game.
We deserve to lose at this rate. Effing awful.
Bum Bum – we’re not that good
Another Southgate masterclass in how to get the worst out of a decent England side.
We’ll be torn apart by sides like France, Spain, Germany, Italy and Portugal.
At least it should see the end of Southgate and not a moment too soon imo.
Abysmal performance.
Southgate go now. Get the late El Tel back in…
Micah Richards hair is remarkable though. It looks like a hat!
One positive tonight at least.
I’m honestly hoping we don’t qualify, as we need to sack this utter clown.
We constantly played in front of their defence and just sat back too deep.
While this might suit Kane being in the setup, it doesn’t suit the rest of our attack that relies on pace.
I’d go so far as to say Southgate is a dinosaur, because we basically played the game how Steve Bruce would have.
FGS, get rid of the utter clown, scaredy cat FA yes man and stop making us a laughing stock against the most average team, in Denmark.
You might be able to tell I’m fuming.
Why don’t we see the clown driving his players forward, like the likes of Pep, Klopp and even Emery do?
Because he doesn’t want them to drive, is the answer.
We have some of the paciest players in the game and he refuses to use our biggest asset.
Even our goal came from Walker’s pace that caught the defender out. You’d think he’d see from that, that his approach is wrong.
I’m sick of saying we’ll win nothing under him.
The only good thing to come out of that game is that even the pundits seem to be turning on him now, because they’re obviously sick of the same old crap too.
Complete garbage. I actually wanted Denmark to win the game so we accelerate Southgate’s sacking. I think Bruce might have been more adventurous than this clown. They will fall back on the excuse that they didn’t lose and top the group. The reality is that when we do get drawn against a top team in the knockout stage, we will go out. Only then can we say good riddance horse face and can start planning for the World Cup.
Looks like Tim deal is done at £9M.
I can’t say I’m happy at that price, but it would have been a lot less a few years back;
https://tbrfootball.com/fabrizio-romano-says-aston-villa-golden-boy-is-set-to-join-premier-league-rivals/
TV just showing Ollie, getting in behind and dragging defenders around, making them immediately play deeper defensively and taking the pressure off us.
It really isn’t rocket science is it?
So why doesn’t the clown see it?
What sums it all up is that the commentator said what a hard watch that was.
Given he’s supposed to be totally neutral, that’s saying something.
Southgate playing his buddies while leaving exciting new talent on the bench.
Dinosaur is a very apt description – Southgate’s been past his sell by dates for some time.
A young kid from Everton seems to be coming our way;
https://www.goodisonnews.com/2024/06/19/aston-villa-in-positive-talks-to-sign-everton-ace-lewis-dobbin-as-goodison-exit-also-in-pipeline/
Even that article suggests that it’s basically swapping, just to suit the PSR books.
If this is how it’s going to be, it shows how pathetic the rules are and seemingly so easy to get around. They’ll probably swap them back for free next season 🙂
What does the EPL expect?
If they create a slanted financial system to protect the wealthiest expect those with money, but outside the inner circle, to exploit it.
About time this financial farce was ended and real competition reinstated – but then EUFA have created a similar financial system to protect the wealthiest clubs in Europe.
Appointing a football regulator in England plays into the hands of EUFA and will achieve nothing positive. The reality is that EUFA are going to create a European Super League and take the money anyway and UK clubs will be given the time and space to take part.
You’re either in the club or outside it and, whilst as a Villa fan with our owners I’m sure they will be looking to be in the club, football overall will be the loser.
The American style closed shop franchise system is where football is headed but at a European level.
RIP football as we know it.