Redevelopment: Is the current situation the right solution?

It’s only a quick one, but it’s something I’ve often thought about too. I’m really not convinced the plan to rebuild solely the North stand has ever been the solution and it should be the Witton lane that should be rebuilt too, even if it means you have to pay the residents on that side loads of bunce to accept being kicked out.
I just don’t get the idea of the North stand. It used to be where the opposition fans went and you abused each other and supported your club. While it’s better than it used to be (I remember sitting up there in the 90’s and it was bleak) it’s still not good imo.

Rebuild the North stand and then build a new Witton lane at the same height.
But most importantly, don’t wrap it. Retain the seperate stands, because that’s what people like about Villa Park, I think. It’s traditional.

However, here’s the view that made me post this;

“Apparently there are now 30,000 fans on the waiting list for a season ticket, my uncle has reliably informed me. Despite being a season ticket holder, he hasn’t been able to get me two tickets together for the Burnley match so I won’t be taking my 6 year old lad to his first game. Very disappointed and the little man will be gutted.

I’ve said it before, but going through all the rigmarole of redeveloping the North Stand for only a 15,000 increase in capacity seems mad! Go as high as you can behind the goal and wrap it with the Doug Ellis, I say! In fact, why not do it in two stages: the North Stand massive two tier development first (as big as it will go), followed by the levelling of the Doug Ellis and another two or three tier monster to join it! Leaving the iconic Holte End and Trinity Road as stand alone landmarks. A perfect balance of tradition and modern progress. St James’ Park is a very good example, with the massive redevelopment wrapping with the lower original stand. 55,000 is not enough and limits the club’s seemingly unlimited potential!!

I want some tickets! 🙁”


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  1. BFR
    BFR December 17, 2023 at 3:56 pm . Reply

    Oh dear…

  2. BFR
    BFR December 17, 2023 at 3:58 pm . Reply

    Brentford are fucking disgraceful.

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand December 17, 2023 at 4:00 pm . Reply

      Pantomime season is upon us 😁😁🤣

      1. BFR
        BFR December 17, 2023 at 4:03 pm . Reply

        I have to say that win is AT LEAST as big as the last two! Gritty.

  3. BFR
    BFR December 17, 2023 at 3:59 pm . Reply

    How does the boss get a yellow for being peacemaker? 🙅

  4. BFR
    BFR December 17, 2023 at 4:04 pm . Reply


  5. Holte
    Holte December 17, 2023 at 4:12 pm . Reply

    Brentford are a dirty cheating bunch of losers. Mee and Maupay are a disgrace. Unfortunately Martinez and Kamara allowed themselves to get sucked into their antics. Watkins was angry about something being said to him and deservedly shoved it back in their faces.
    A pity we are losing Kamara for a few games now. Also Torres hobbled off so let’s hope nothing serious.

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand December 17, 2023 at 4:19 pm . Reply

      Absolutely vile.
      Always admired what they’ve achieved given their limited resources and thought Frank was a descent guy but will see him and his team in a different light after today’s shenanigans.

  6. OLL again
    OLL again December 17, 2023 at 4:26 pm . Reply

    For posters on here who weren’t watching it live: any resemblance between what you may see on MOTD and a football match is purely coincidental. We won thank goodness!

    I owe an apology to 1/ Fulham, 2/ Everton, 3/ Palace for describing them as the dirtiest team in the league as the season progressed. Brentford would rather kick you out of the game than play football. Ben Mee has a full rap sheet with Villa anyway: with one short term and one long term injury inflicted on Villans before today and his red card offence was mild by his standards. Maupay runs 20 yards with the ball already dead to hit Martinez in the back then plays wounded when Martinez retaliates stupidly in the next coming together. Why Coote picked Kamara to red card in the fracas to follow is a mystery: maybe because he could spell it.

    While football had broken out in the first half, Villa faced a domestic Zerinski, camped behind the ball and waiting for a lucky rebound – which Brentford got to score. Villa were over elaborating, they can’t find a sharpshooter to unlock packed defences. Diaby the worst bottle-merchant – passing the ball back when he was supposed to be taking defenders on. He seems to have lost it recently.

    Still – first away win over the B***s since 1933 is something to cheer.

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand December 17, 2023 at 4:40 pm . Reply

      Now this really hurts but here we go…
      Come On Man U!

  7. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum December 17, 2023 at 4:37 pm . Reply

    Everyone’s gone effing mad!!!!

  8. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 December 17, 2023 at 4:41 pm . Reply

    Maupay set out to wind up Martinez – first he deliberately runs into him and then falls over and tries to claim a foul.

    Martinez was silly to get pulled in which eventually led to Kamara’s red.

    Perhaps Maupay should concentrate on trying to play football given that he’s pretty poor at it.

    Don’t mind that we mixed it with them – if you’re going to be at the top of the league then you’ve got to be prepared to kick arse.


  9. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 December 17, 2023 at 4:48 pm . Reply

    Here’s the stand out stat; fouls Brentford 19, Villa 6.

    Says it all.

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand December 17, 2023 at 5:32 pm . Reply

      Lads and lasses, well having just looking at the fixtures AND should we win Friday (and come on we should) and it’s top of the league for Christmas 😁
      Thank you Saint Unai of the Lower Grounds for the best ever present 💝

  10. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson December 17, 2023 at 5:47 pm . Reply

    I always thought that the worst referee was Michael Oliver but that so called ref today tops the bill, he’s a coward and a ref with no understanding of the game of football.Hitch pointed it out 19 fouls he should be investigated and dropped to lower leagues. It’s cost us a top defender that means we might not achieve our status in going places, bet he’s a London club supporter.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 December 17, 2023 at 5:53 pm . Reply

      Have to agree Bill – he completely lost control of the game.

      If Maupay’s unnecessary attack on Martinez had been dealt with properly I doubt we’d have seen him throwing himself to the ground in a rather embarrassing way.

      Notwithstanding, I think Emery will be disappointed with some of our actions.

      Still, you need players to show a bit of fire.

    2. OLL again
      OLL again December 17, 2023 at 6:52 pm . Reply

      Hold your Horses Bill. Michael Oliver wasn’t giving up his title without an episode of disgraceful bias. I watched the second half of the war at Anfield and every clash resulted in a decision in favour of the bin-dippers. Culminating in the sending off in injury time of Dalot who clearly played the ball off Salah’s shin for a Manure throw. Oliver gives it the other way, Dalot tells Oliver what he is and gets a red card for a refereeing error.

      We haven’t had Oliver yet, that will put an end to our home record.

  11. Ardent Villain
    Ardent Villain December 17, 2023 at 7:01 pm . Reply

    I have no problem with a ‘fiesty’ match; the trick, of course, is to give it out without getting red-carded. Although that’s getting more difficult with all the video at games.

    Kamara wasn’t being clever, and it’ll cost us. And Martinez is not far-off being shown a red by some over-zealous referee too. If we’re going to stay at the top the players need to be a bit more street-wise and get their retaliation in more subtly…

    Great result.

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