I stated my case about why I believe Lambert has to go in my previous post, but I see some people are still asking for a poll, even though it seems the consensus is that he should indeed go.
It’s been backed up by polls on various other Villa sites, but I’m always happy to oblige if people ask.
I haven’t seen many posts on any site saying that we shouldn’t get rid of Lambert, but perhaps I’m reading things wrong.
Hence from a purely personal point of view, I’d like to see any arguments about why Lambert should stay.
I think Keane has got PR’S down to a fine art.
England under 21s are 2 up at 1/2 time, 18 consecutive wins, think Southgate would do me.
i hate to agree with you bill, but your spot on southgate is ideal. coach type, plays the game the right way, has connections with some young players and would improve ours, only stumbling block is ~ i have heard the england manager job is his after hodgson steps down after the euros but i would throw his name in the hat with u
He’s a definite candidate for the England job is Southgate, I listen to him on panels and knows his coaching job. Shame that, I wonder if he has a soft spot for Villa still.
Would only have a soft spot for us until Middlesbrough came knocking.
didn’t he leave us cos he claimed middlesbora had more ambition ???? my memory rarely fails me but i av had a few, but in my opinion thats the best name sofar mentioned on this site and i was thinking of villa ex players earlier today but i didn’t think of him
Southgate? No not for me Bill, woeful at Boro and there’s something about the fella that I can’t put my finger on but I just don’t like, plus in Collymore’s book he more or less says he’s two faced f**ker.
Now I don’t know the truth of that but to be honest that’s the impression I get.
Nahh not for me unfortunately his job at Boro sticks in my mind or should I say a poor one at that.
Well just thrown the hat in lads, to be honest, who would come at top level? Up till now we have attracted easy money people, Villa are badly organized in all department. You know lads we ran too long with old school ties,it only cottoned on in the late 90s to bring in university people just like Man utd, had. They had captured the market, in China way ahead of any football club of today. It will have to be a foreign person ready to take the challenge of English football.
Come at top level? Mate we couldn’t even tempt Martínez from Wigan.
Badly organised at all levels, how true is that? I mean a club that uses the players from its finest hour delivering shirts! Who come up with that golden nugget? Imo it was just plain embarrassing.
No one from our finest hour delivered my shirt it was a fat Bird with a scouse accent well disappointed.
That was Dennis Mortimer mate.
LMAO 😀 he certainly hasn’t aged well.
Southgate?
Deary me, he was garbage at Boro imo.
There’s only one person capable of managing Villa and bringing back the glory day. That person……..Hugo Rodallega.
theres not one foriegn manager that can come into a struggeling team and turn it round in half a season, maybe at the start of a season they may achieve some success but i wouldnt go all in on a non established epl manager at this time of the season
Pochetino did with Southampton
And he’s continued to succeed at Spurs……NOT!! He got lucky at Southampton. Move on oohah, he’s shite.
Hardly shite, he had goal scorers at Southampton, when Chadli makes up 6 of 14 goals, you’re in trouble. They have the same problem as us, our strikers don’t score, neither do theirs. Soldado’s just not suitable for the Prem and Ade’s hit and miss. He gets a striker in January and gets rid of Soldado, they’d be in far better form then they are. Unfortunately 1 striker wouldn’t save us, unless we had someone like Ponchettino. Who would be a great managerial appointment still.
He wasn’t lucky Spurs are badly run by levy these days
So you defend Pocchetino by blaming the chairman/owner yet you can’t do the same for the club you claim to support. Double standards oohah, double standards.
Yes I do the difference being lamberk has had an average of 25m to spend and had 3 seasons and the team is no better if not worse than under mcleish. Pochetino has only had a few months big difference
saints were a decent team before pocchetino joined he only added 2 wot was already a well run club and team, its not like the same thing a manager will do at villa, we need major changes gutting and rebuilding.
pocchetino is struggling at spuds cos the players aren’t able 2 play his high tempo pressing game so why doesn’t he adapt or is he unable too, i wouldn’t say the spuds players are shit they cost loads of money
Exactly they are not his type of players at Spurs so if he is given a year to get his players in he could well
Also pochetino did take them up a level. Look at koeman all his best players sold and secind in the league ffs ok they won’t stay there but they are doing something right that’s for sure
Lloris has come and out backed Ponchettino, claiming the coach is not necessarily the problem, and that they feel far too comfortable in London, there’s no crisis management, and he feels bad for Ponchettino for it. Seems he’s blaming Levy as well.
Oh and Southampton’s best players weren’t sold, but they also replaced them with better.
So oohah, now you’re saying lambert has had, on average, 25 million a season to spend. How have you got to this figure?
Simple I added it all up
Do we need a quick fix or someone with a long term plan???,I know which I’d choose at this very minute.
Yes Lerners Long term plan, seems to be planless…. We need a quick fix before we are in the bottom 3, as I really don’t see us having the stomach for yet another relegation battle.
Agreed saddened we need someone who can do their magic,the only one available is pulis who I feel fits the bill.only problem being our financial restraints could be the stumbling block.
Everywhere Pulis has worked there has been financial constraints, so I think he would jump at the chance.
He has never managed a club as big as Villa.
Trouble is he tells the media that fucks the chairman off p45 adios.
Ps Lerner wants yes men pulis don’t fit that criteria unfortunately.
No, as much as most of us want rid of Lambert, I’m afraid we are stuck with him.
I wonder what it would take for him to get the bullet?????when it’s too late????
Good question. We have had two-and-a-half diabolical years with this fool. During this time we have had shocking runs, poor results, cup exits to lower league teams and god know’s how many records broken.
I feel the turning point could be when the home crowd finally turn on and I don’t mean just booing the team off.
The away fans turned on him at Palace last season but that was it.
I really feel us fans have a big part to play.
At the moment, everything is so passive at Villa Park. People just sit there and do nothing.
Maybe our next game/defeat to Southampton could be that time?
Whatever happens, as a club we can’t carry on as we have been for these last 4/5 years.
Fully agree.this cannot continue.
I never thought i would say this about the Villa. The club i have supported for over 40 years.
I am just bored of it all.
Steve, I know its a shite club at the minute, but I’m still claret and blue, and it hurts; what pisses me off is the club don’t do anything to give us fans encouragement as to what hope they can give in the future, surely the board, the owner, knows it cannot go on, fans are leaving in the droves, I don’t know the answer,only fuck Lambert of and a new owner that cares.
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i see roy keane really rates clark, ward who played 3tier last season koegh making hi debut while never having played top flight playing ahead of him for ireland
It’s d luck o de oirish…
I see MON is getting found out even his media mates didn’t defend and more or less said his tactics are outdated. Quinn said his tactics were hit the front man with a long ball and flick on sound familiar anyone. What a couple of jokers MON and keane are and just as big a joker is lamberk completely shit
Well the game on Mon will be 140 years anniversary and look We’re we are it’s the perfect game to revolt and show your anger towards lambert
Yeah we will lose 1.0 and the lamberk apologists will be saying what a great job he’s doing. The fans are spineless too scared or too content to voice Ther opinions.
Niall Quinn, the master tactician??
Do me a favour.
And we already know you hated MON.
I’d bet a pound to a pinch of proverbial that he’d do a better job than Lambert, given the same restraints, though.
He knows how to motivate people (albeit maybe in the short term), as opposed to Lambert.
What were your thoughts about Maloney, (who apparently scored a wonder goal tonight) when he was down the Villa?
I have a feeling you thought he was too lightweight?
When maloney was at the villa o’neil never played him.
As it happened I did rate Maloney but MON prob didn’t like having a player that could go forward with flair. Young was just a fluke
Ah u hit the nail or Niall on the head the short term. MON would do well for a few months then be found out. I know your a MON apologist so have to agree to differ
He did occasionally Steve, I think if I remember correctly he wasn’t happy at Villa, maybe didn’t get on with Mon, or as they said home sick, to be honest I liked him thought he had promise.
I read he was home sick for Scotland but then played for wigan so I doubt that’s true MON is an overrated myth. He’s done nothing since he left us in the shit
Anyone think Pochettino is overrated? Slightly fortunate timing with the way he came into Southampton. Nigel Adkins had started to turn things around with results against us and Chelsea. They had a wealth of young talent to choose from and the majority of players that did well the following season were signed by the Adkins/Pardew regime.
I guess what I’m trying to say is we need to be wary of a foreign coach coming in. For every one that works out there’s a Pepe Mel. Can sometimes be a short turnaround in results and feel good factor, but ultimately in our case the instability at board room level through to first team/youth squads would be too much. I agree that someone like Southgate/McLaren could steady the ship and communicate/implement ideas better throughout the club.
totally agree with all you said fastjet81, i forgot pepe mel reign at baggies another forgettable contribution,
Mclaren would be a fantastic manager for us. Never understand why nobody wanted him, we’ll look at derby now hey! Should have been promted last season and they are playing some great football. I think derby fans allowed him a chance and it really worked for them
The wally with the brolly that’s why
with hind sight i wished we had gone with mclaren instead of lambert now ( i did want lambert ) i thought lambert would have been the best choice, as he was used to working with no money and thats our biggest problem, no money and owner who lacks any football knowledge.
i didn’t want mclaren as much as lambert, cos i thought the england experience would take a longer time 2 recover from. but mclaron would av worked more with the whole squad youth included, lambert should av been using the youth more, instead of buying some of the 2mill buys that were dire
hard to say but if mclaron had been now in his 3rd season as lambert is 2day, i would think he would have villa more settled and in much healthier position
I remember when mclaren was mentioned on this site and there was uproar
I have to say Nath so did I, I thought it was time to stop wages and agents running away with our sport, I didn’t think what damage one manager and owner could cause, you know that old saying better the devil you know, its bloody right in our case. How the hell we get away with this manager god knows, I’ve been watching young England under 21s/ under19s the skills they have unbelievable, where the hell are our young hopefuls , if he play young lads we have, I could take the loss in a game, not what he does with the so called main players.
exactly bill where are the young players, robinson and grealish apart where are our future players, lambert as manager needs to explain, what has he and his coaches done to improve our youth. the point of having such a top class youth set up is to produce top players. look around players like gary cahill ,steve davis and craig gardiner all are playing premiership for other teams. us fans would relate to our team more, if they are home produced rather than coming for clearly the money
He’s loaned most of them out, he’s totally turned this young & Hungry ideology on its head.why the fuck carnt he mix it up a bit & more than anything fuck gabby off.
Nath, Giddy, very little comes out of Villa to give us any hope of getting better, is it sending our youth out to save money ? It certainly not in our case to get experience, how can it, Gardner, Robinson, I bet I can look at 10 different teams and see our players, playing for them and should have stayed with us, we have no ambitious intent to be more than a footballing club going nowhere.
robinson and gardiner both these two should be in and around the team i totally agree but iam not sure why unless lambert doesn’t rate um , we av delp out and sanchez was defintly off the pace slowly hes progressing but why are we allowing him time but not gardiner,
nzog and gabby both are off form and both playing playing well below the standards required robinson could and should be putting um under pressure to perform and grealish if hes staying and not being loaned out he should be playing so part also
i did see nzog play slightly better last game but hes still miles away from his form at wigan year before he was bought
iam not sure that was his ideology, he clearly was told 2 reduce wages and that naturally would av meant lower class of players being recruited and higher earning players being offloaded. but we have a youth team and these players should have been used, if they aren’t good enough WHY ??? also lamberts recruits haven’t exactly set the world alive. its head scratching but clearly we need somebody to inject a style of play like we are used to and this means from under 10 to all the way to the first team,
loaning the players out is a good thing as if they aren’t in our team, they are at least getting competitive game time, its great for the player and us as a club.it also reduces the wages for randy lol
I don’t even think Gardner wants to come back,he’s enjoying his footy & plays regularly.
That’s what I’m saying , he should be playing for us, as Nath just said our coaching has to be looked at if its come to loaning out fairly reasonable players who are making their name for them.