I stated my case about why I believe Lambert has to go in my previous post, but I see some people are still asking for a poll, even though it seems the consensus is that he should indeed go.
It’s been backed up by polls on various other Villa sites, but I’m always happy to oblige if people ask.
I haven’t seen many posts on any site saying that we shouldn’t get rid of Lambert, but perhaps I’m reading things wrong.
Hence from a purely personal point of view, I’d like to see any arguments about why Lambert should stay.
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150 responses to “POLL; Should Lambert stay or should he go?”
A poll, with a pretty straightforward choice of answer, I’d say.
A nice bright, sunny theme to contrast this rubbish weather too! 🙂
Still not happy about how the words overlap the bit you tick, but there you go.
Badger what the FUCK is it with the palm trees mate are you on your hols????as for Lambert I wish he was on some fucking desert island.
I wish I was on my hols mate.
I haven’t had a day off in 2 months and don’t see one coming before xmas.
And no offence, but you can stick the Xmas theme up your proverbial.
I much prefer sun on my bones 🙂
Pulis asap any takers??????
Ps BADGER a festive theme would of been more apt.
Pretty conclusive vote so far though who are the 10% of jokers who think he should say. Must be bluenoses no other way to explain it!!
Go for the jugular OOHA.
Lol oh ok then
i think a better debate and vote, would be if badger or oohahaha make a short~list of prospects managers that realistically would be enticed by the job. maybe take names from posters and between you draw up a short list for us punters, 2 vote the right man in, maybe then email lerner to suggest our polls results. maybe he will listen lmao i doubt. but it would be nice 2 debate who WE really want
this lambert debate is or should be a landslide, i would put mclaron name forward, pulis is not a manager i rate, i know hes a magician, but i doubt he will wave his wand at vp and if he did how long will it take us 2 want better standard football, oh wot about glen hoddle, i think we need a coach type man, that can upgrade the team and create a better quality youth coming through our set up
p.s i av’nt voted so iam not one of them 10% lamberts in his 3rd year and excuses are not allowed or valid, results and performances talk volumes
Ok I’m game of badger is gives us some names and we will do a poll
Think its a forgone conclusion, fans are worried, who for the job? Not a clue. you have to ask Lerner, he’d have to break the bank, and he wouldn’t.
Lambert and Lerner or laurel & hardy as I call them have had enough time they have shown they both know nothing about football so both should go for the good of villa
Beneteke will probably save Lambert’s skin.
Sender-dros injured yesterday and Vlaar gone off injured after 24mins playing for the Netherlands tonight.
That could mean Clarke and Baker as our centre-backs for the games against Burnley, Palace and Leicester!!
Oh nooooooooooo
Lol just when u think it can’t get any worse though to be fair we still concede goals and get beat with Vlaar and Sendross anyway so won’t be much difference
Doubt it this time
For me it’s got to be a foreign manager im sick of Scottish and Irish managers they are boring and shite. And no I’m not being racist
baker is doubtful we could have a return of herd!
How about resigning Heskey and playing him at centre half with Lord mcgrath
Saturday’s headline today.
Villa player injured outside the Stadium. Just before the ambulance doors closed he could be heard saying “I walked straight into this lamp-post, I’m sure it wasn’t there last week.”
i voted for lambert to stay as much as i despise the man and want him as far away from my club as possible the fact is there are to many of lamberts players there to perform for another manager he has got us into this shit unless we can spend £100 mil in the tranfer window we have to depend on the idiot to get us out of it
Not really, Multiple manager’s can get more out of this group than Lambert, even if they are mostly his players.
Weimann, delph, Guzan, Gabby, baker, Hutton, zogbia, Clarke, Grealish,Gardner, bent arnt his players and would all benefit without that useless fuckwit and his bearded spare part
As would most of his own players he’s brought in. I’d say Weimann and Benteke would both be best off without him though, as most likely any new manager would be smart enough to bring in at least 1 out and out winger and they’d flourish with one.
First off, the choice of manager will never be ours again, under Lerner, imo.
The total disdain of the fans he showed in appointing Big Feck and giving Lambert a new 4 year contract on the back of absolutely nothing, tells me that.
Fwiw, I seriously wonder if Ellis had a hand in those appointments, just to make himself look better (I really wouldn’t put it past him).
As for who would realistically come in, I suspect we’ll see a dearth of possibles here.
Who would take the Villa job now?, is the simple question.
Pretty much unproven/unknowns and that’s it.
That’s why Lambert is still in a job, imo.
We look like a club that’s going down, sooner or later.
Same as we all viewed Wigan a couple of seasons back.
Depends on what are claimed unproven or unknown. Are we talking about unknown to Premier League fans (most continental manager’s outside your Bayern, Dortmund, Juventus, Napoli, Barcelona and Madrid manager’s or actually unknown? Be quite happy with an unknown continental/South American manager. Or a known one that most Premier League fans don’t, like Ventura, who’s an incredible manager.
Andrew, I was thinking championship or third tier managers, which is about our limits, given Lerner’s knowledge of the game.
Not that I would want to play this game of appointing managers, at all.
I just firmly believe that Lambert is the pragmatic choice; one that shows no ambition whatsoever.
Lambert is the definition of no ambition although he was considered an ambitious move as we could’ve had what most thought (most, not all, ala me) could be a quality young manager for years to come, you’re correct, although I think you’re being a little harsh with the whole third tier manager’s, which I am guessing is a joke, but maybe not.
Villa being a top flight team pretty much means we’re a great target for manager’s, not the top manager’s, but possibly a young, quality up and coming one, or an older one that would like to ply his trade in England before he retires.
Reading on facebook that’s it possible (of course it’s just a rumour) about a physical altercation between Keane and a fan
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/roy-keane-under-investigation-over-8101118
Andrew, would it really surprise you if this was true?
This is why I never wanted Keane associated with the Villa.
The bloke is a thug, simple.
It simply isn’t the Villa way.
But of course, it’s all hearsay.
And probably total rubbish (a decent bung works miracles).
FAI’s standing behind Keane, so it does seem like there was an incident, it seems a matter of who started it.
Pretty obvious who started it with Keanes thug record imo of course
There really is something wrong with that bloke, he either has some major issues or he’s simply a psychopath. Whichever the cogs don’t seem to be turning right in the fellas head.
BWS do you mean him wanting to join the Villa under Lambert or something else ?? lol
Lol, not quite what I meant but I see where you’re coming from/
Do you think maybe Lambert got it all wrong when he heard that Keane would help him beat people?
Lol NICE one 😀
Hey BWS only found out what he’s done an hour ago, shit what’s up with the fool, the guy was asking for him to sign his book? and he hit him (supposedly) its on TV news tonight, interesting, hope he gets the book thrown at him, 🙂 🙂 🙂
Lambo maybe looking for yet another assistant in not too distant future,I don’t think old Randy will like the unwanted media attention.
Keane is a complete waste of space for us and hasn’t helped the team at all. More interested in his stid book and being a z list celeb in the jungle.
Slaven Bilić
Great name, one I haven’t heard in a while. Would take some doing to get him away from Besiktas though.
It would Andrew. It’s called showing ambition. I wish villa would start spending some serious money hiring the right man rather than wasting a shit load of it getting rid of them. If we are to have belief in this Fox guy this is the type of manager we should be going after. I’ve lost all faith in Lambert & Lerner. I still believe in most of the players we have under the right manager. If we go on to win ten games in a row I still want Lambert out. All i asked for after McC was consistency and what did I get . Consistently Shit !
I’m right with you, if we won our next ten games and were already safe, I’d want him gone too.
I also believe our players could do so much better under the right man. Most look scared going forward as they’d probably get yelled at, which is why it’s all about giving Benteke the ball and sitting back in case he lost it.
Bilic would be a great manager to bring in though, I still personally want Sagnol myself, think he’d be the perfect to get us back on track. Maybe a bit younger and go Cocu who’s doing really well at PSV. Rui Vitoria’s another good one although he’ll probably be at Porto or Benfica soon, Emery is another quality manager that would show ambition to get, Paulo Sousa would be someone I’d love to see, he’s grown a bit since his small stint at Leicester, and he would hopefully bring Gashi with him, incredible player.
That’s ridiculous if we won the next ten games . Our attitudes would all change. We will be lucky to win ten games from now to the end of the season to be honest.
Andrew.. some good names mentioned.. my only worry is a young manager from abroad might find it hard coming in mid season in the mess we are in..
If RL had any nous about him.. he would get Pulis.. steady the ship.. tell him to feck off in May and then go for a good young manager from abroad..
Oh no, I can assure you my mind won’t change, hasn’t since we got him that we should never have.
Pulis is the obvious choice for Lerner, and seemingly for a lot of fans, or some other Premier League experienced manager who will then in a year or so be wanted out by fans for another mediocre Premier League experienced manager.
Continental, South American, anyone with different views and a different style. We’ve continued this Premier League experienced manager bs for long enough and it’s failed each time.
We’ll be lucky to get 10 points let alone win 10 games.
Just get rid of him, and quickly, my son wants a kit for Xmas and he’s getting a Juventus one if this tw4t is still in charge……. I have supported the Villa for 35 years and for the first time ever I am wanting them to get beat each week, to relieve ourselves of this dreadful manager….. Come on Mr Fox have a word with Lerner.
Juventus!! Lol
Christophe Galtier wouldn’t be a bad shout..
Look at Blues.. got spanked 8-0.. appointed a new manager.. beat the team top of the table.. no conceding many..
Same players etc.. people are foolish if they think another manager can’t make a difference..
Another example.. Bertrand.. looked bang average at Villa.. lumping the ball in the box.. goes to Southampton.. better manager.. looks a very good player…
Yes but will is last at blues a new manager always makes a difference to start of with as players playing for their place etc.
Just go find a team that plays attractive football in some foreign league and sign him up!
new manager would need premiership experience, we don’t want a fulham situation like they had with Felix Magath, he came with a real good reputation. i also think no connections with the dark side (bluenoses) is also needed, i think a manager that knows how to improve the club from the bottom all the way to the 1st team. i have racked my brain and i cant come up with one decent name, also i think the guy will not be employed as would lerner pay compensation both ways, removing lambert and paying new guys old club off.
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/aston-villa/next-permanent-manager
i would say mcclaron / hoddle / and this won’t be popular but the new bolton manager neil lennon
now this is just a bit of fun / i am just want to see, if we could vote a guy 2b nxt manager tv style ~ who would WE vote next villa manager post ur comments and please say ur choice for oohahaha and badger so they can draw up the short list 🙂
So you wanna go a way that’s been a complete failure for us and continue this “Premier League experience” way? Doesn’t work, clearly.
Felix Magath & Ole Gunnar Solskjær are just two premiership newbies that took the league by storm last year, like i said i can’t think who, i liked or who would want the job. its why i asked the site to cum up with some names, i would prefer experience of the league, but its not for real its just abit of fun
And Koeman and Ponchettino are two with no experience who actually took the league by storm. I’m aware it’s for fun, but going for yet more experienced in the league manager’s isn’t fun, because most of them are boring.
funny how ur reply happens 2 b the same club and how pinocchio and his replacement koeman taken over a club well run for many years before either had their baptism. my memories recall nigel adkins also was doing a fine job and pinocchio just took over and continued wot was already in placed, adkins record was just as impressive and wot has pinocchio done at spurs with so called better players. hats of to koeman he has to deal with quite alot of players leaving.
aston villa are a club that are on a slippery slope and it will take a top manager some effort 2 change the downward momentum, without help from the owner, even at the saints koeman brought over tadic for a cheap 11mill and pelle from his old team for 8~9mill, maybe giving managers money to spend helps to attract the better ones
Eddie Howe anyone? I think he would fit to bill perfectly,! I thought he would have been a god idea before lambert if I remember correctly,
I think he’s another lamberk great at at smaller club but couldn’t hack with us
Eddie Howe will be one of the great managers. Probably an England manager in time. Level headed, articulate, and ruthless, though the last trait is well hidden.
Marcelo Bielso Argentina coach, the guy I believe was a national coach, might give us that attacking play.the thing is who would come to Villa.?
I see Uwe Rosler, another manager who has had a poor run of results has been sacked.
Yet still Lambert survives!!!!!!!
Thing is some are saying a young European coach/manager. It makes no difference who we get unless we win the first 10 games off there regime we’ll be calling for his head!!! Lambert said when he came it’s a 5 yr plan, he’s not halfway through it yet and from day 1 people have been calling for his head. Let’s stlick with him, support him and enjoy it. UTV
PMSL
The money Yankee bollox will lose if we’re relegated compared to compoing Lambert which is fuckall in comparison,fucking good business imo.Lerner fuck him off before it’s tooooo late FFS
I think Keane has got PR’S down to a fine art.
England under 21s are 2 up at 1/2 time, 18 consecutive wins, think Southgate would do me.
i hate to agree with you bill, but your spot on southgate is ideal. coach type, plays the game the right way, has connections with some young players and would improve ours, only stumbling block is ~ i have heard the england manager job is his after hodgson steps down after the euros but i would throw his name in the hat with u
He’s a definite candidate for the England job is Southgate, I listen to him on panels and knows his coaching job. Shame that, I wonder if he has a soft spot for Villa still.
Would only have a soft spot for us until Middlesbrough came knocking.
didn’t he leave us cos he claimed middlesbora had more ambition ???? my memory rarely fails me but i av had a few, but in my opinion thats the best name sofar mentioned on this site and i was thinking of villa ex players earlier today but i didn’t think of him
Southgate? No not for me Bill, woeful at Boro and there’s something about the fella that I can’t put my finger on but I just don’t like, plus in Collymore’s book he more or less says he’s two faced f**ker.
Now I don’t know the truth of that but to be honest that’s the impression I get.
Nahh not for me unfortunately his job at Boro sticks in my mind or should I say a poor one at that.
Well just thrown the hat in lads, to be honest, who would come at top level? Up till now we have attracted easy money people, Villa are badly organized in all department. You know lads we ran too long with old school ties,it only cottoned on in the late 90s to bring in university people just like Man utd, had. They had captured the market, in China way ahead of any football club of today. It will have to be a foreign person ready to take the challenge of English football.
Come at top level? Mate we couldn’t even tempt Martínez from Wigan.
Badly organised at all levels, how true is that? I mean a club that uses the players from its finest hour delivering shirts! Who come up with that golden nugget? Imo it was just plain embarrassing.
No one from our finest hour delivered my shirt it was a fat Bird with a scouse accent well disappointed.
That was Dennis Mortimer mate.
LMAO 😀 he certainly hasn’t aged well.
Southgate?
Deary me, he was garbage at Boro imo.
There’s only one person capable of managing Villa and bringing back the glory day. That person……..Hugo Rodallega.
theres not one foriegn manager that can come into a struggeling team and turn it round in half a season, maybe at the start of a season they may achieve some success but i wouldnt go all in on a non established epl manager at this time of the season
Pochetino did with Southampton
And he’s continued to succeed at Spurs……NOT!! He got lucky at Southampton. Move on oohah, he’s shite.
Hardly shite, he had goal scorers at Southampton, when Chadli makes up 6 of 14 goals, you’re in trouble. They have the same problem as us, our strikers don’t score, neither do theirs. Soldado’s just not suitable for the Prem and Ade’s hit and miss. He gets a striker in January and gets rid of Soldado, they’d be in far better form then they are. Unfortunately 1 striker wouldn’t save us, unless we had someone like Ponchettino. Who would be a great managerial appointment still.
He wasn’t lucky Spurs are badly run by levy these days
So you defend Pocchetino by blaming the chairman/owner yet you can’t do the same for the club you claim to support. Double standards oohah, double standards.
Yes I do the difference being lamberk has had an average of 25m to spend and had 3 seasons and the team is no better if not worse than under mcleish. Pochetino has only had a few months big difference
saints were a decent team before pocchetino joined he only added 2 wot was already a well run club and team, its not like the same thing a manager will do at villa, we need major changes gutting and rebuilding.
pocchetino is struggling at spuds cos the players aren’t able 2 play his high tempo pressing game so why doesn’t he adapt or is he unable too, i wouldn’t say the spuds players are shit they cost loads of money
Exactly they are not his type of players at Spurs so if he is given a year to get his players in he could well
Also pochetino did take them up a level. Look at koeman all his best players sold and secind in the league ffs ok they won’t stay there but they are doing something right that’s for sure
Lloris has come and out backed Ponchettino, claiming the coach is not necessarily the problem, and that they feel far too comfortable in London, there’s no crisis management, and he feels bad for Ponchettino for it. Seems he’s blaming Levy as well.
Oh and Southampton’s best players weren’t sold, but they also replaced them with better.
So oohah, now you’re saying lambert has had, on average, 25 million a season to spend. How have you got to this figure?
Simple I added it all up
Do we need a quick fix or someone with a long term plan???,I know which I’d choose at this very minute.
Yes Lerners Long term plan, seems to be planless…. We need a quick fix before we are in the bottom 3, as I really don’t see us having the stomach for yet another relegation battle.