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  1. badger123
    badger123 September 23, 2013 at 7:10 pm . Reply

    It’s an interesting subject, the cup and league thing, which would make for a decent article sometime.
    While I agree some clubs no longer take the cups seriously at first, you can bet your boots they do when they’re getting nearer to the final.
    At the end of the day, it’s silverware and the best chance we’ve got of winning anything.
    Plus it’s extra games where we can get to see the team.
    Love it, absolutely love it, me.

    Play the best possible team and try and win a cup, which is what I think Lambert’s approach will be.

  2. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones September 23, 2013 at 7:17 pm . Reply

    Well now is not the europa league a cousin of the inter toto or ten bob cup do we not hold the record for winning that.Our league position what ever it maybe is the only way to prove wether progress as been made not cup games.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 23, 2013 at 8:18 pm . Reply

      I agree mate Ffs Portsmouth won the fa cup and look where they finished!!

  3. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones September 23, 2013 at 9:13 pm . Reply

    Sir Oohah looks like i have put the cat well and truly amongst the pigeons with this one mate ain;t half took some stick.But still some don;t grasp the fact that progress can only be measured by our league standing not by winning cups or some tin pot league like the europa.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 23, 2013 at 9:35 pm . Reply

      Some people are blind sir terry it’s the league position and whether ur in the CL that defines you these days not the Micky mouse cups

  4. adam
    adam September 23, 2013 at 10:47 pm . Reply

    Yes the cl defines the big clubs like united, city, spurs arsenal, chelsea and liverpool but for the smaller clubs like us who have fallen the Europa league is our champions league we can no longer think about getting 4th. We should try our hardest to get in to Europa and do well imo, to attract better players, make more money for the club and gain valuable experience, only then can we maybe think about the next step I.e champs league.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 23, 2013 at 10:51 pm . Reply

      Never happen Adam we will never be able to attract top quality players and tge few we do get we will never hold on to them. For the youngsters out a link to villa in old third division when I first started supporting the club. Those were the days more optimism than now even though in 3rd and ten years later we ruked the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RxfqFrCBqQ&sns=em

      1. JimT
        JimT September 24, 2013 at 2:44 pm . Reply

        Contradictory statement don’t you think. You say we can’t get up the table and attract top players yet we have done it before. Gone from the bottom to the top. Against all odds. I’ll give you there are different barriers now, but why give up trying. Or are you happy to sit where we are. I struggle to see what you want from this club sometimes.You say is not possible for Villa to be up there again then complain that we’re down towards the bottom. Its all very confusing.

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 24, 2013 at 3:24 pm . Reply

          Simple really I want Lerner to fuck off and have a city style takeover. Anyone else who says they don’t want that are either mad or lying. Like it or hate it it’s now the only way we will ever succeed again. As they say if u can’t beat em join em!!

          1. JimT
            JimT September 24, 2013 at 3:42 pm . Reply

            So you want overnight success. Don’t think its going to happen now. Especially now the oil rich billionaires are sticking to their own countries now. Plus the Man City owners are technically part of the Saudi Royal family and I don’t think many form that way would want to go against them. Its bound to crash on them at some point, FFP, owners losing interest etc…. Just because they have the cash doesn’t make them the best. I’m not overly convinced by any of the ‘rich clubs’ this season. We pushed Chelsea, Cardiff beat Man City, there’s been crazy performances. Look at QPR and how much they spent. Similer to the Man City’s etc but ended up bottom. It isn’t the only way.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath September 24, 2013 at 4:56 pm . Reply

              Fair point jim I’m not saying their model is bullet proof either but what it does do is give you a much greater chance of success and make sure u are challenging at least

      2. Foxy
        Foxy September 24, 2013 at 2:44 pm . Reply

        OOHAH – don’t you mean you had more optimism back in the 3rd division days? What an odd post, you start off being incredibly pessimistic about our future and then saying things were better when everyone was optimistic.

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 24, 2013 at 3:22 pm . Reply

          That’s exactly what I meant foxy

  5. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones September 24, 2013 at 1:50 pm . Reply

    Oohah my good friend does no one realise that winning a domestic cup is a poison challis these days first the Noses then Wigan.Me thinks some people have very short memories.

    1. JimT
      JimT September 24, 2013 at 2:30 pm . Reply

      2 teams in how many years of the competition? Blues and Wigan were very poor before they won it. What about Swansea? Won it, beat Valencia last week. Looking pretty strong for them. Superstitious bollocks.

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 24, 2013 at 3:25 pm . Reply

      Especially the league cup we need to be comfortable mid table before we try and win it.

      1. Foxy
        Foxy September 24, 2013 at 3:59 pm . Reply

        We are comfortably in mid-table though, and just a point behind eighth and ManU!

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 24, 2013 at 4:54 pm . Reply

          Ha ha with just 5 games gone that’s irrelevant lets see where we are in 12 games

          1. Foxy
            Foxy September 24, 2013 at 6:00 pm . Reply

            Could have sworn you were calling for Lambert’s head after four matches.

  6. JimT
    JimT September 24, 2013 at 2:36 pm . Reply

    I go on holiday and come back after a win and still things haven’t changed for some round here. I’m pretty confident. We’ve played some tough sides so far and its good to get them out of the way. We seem to have an easier Xmas and run in this season. The defence finally kept a clean sheet and played pretty well. Clarke in the BBC team of the week is a positive. I’m confident in a mid table finish then progression from there in the coming seasons. Lambert is building something very sensible and sustainable and I can only see times getting better. If, as a couple of scarecrows keep saying, Lambert is fired, we’ll be back to square one with a manger trying to put his philosophy on the team and rebuilding again. Then he’ll get moaned at for not getting us Champions League. It becomes a very viscous cycle of doom. UTV, In Lambert We Trust!!

  7. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones September 24, 2013 at 5:11 pm . Reply

    Oohah mate we do have some comedians on here we are comfortable mid-table who wrote that joke we win one lose three win one.Bloody hell mate whom ever thinks that must have been the joker whom writes the jokes for Bruce Forsythe.comment please.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 24, 2013 at 5:37 pm . Reply

      Lol only 2 points from bottom I think

  8. Darren
    Darren September 24, 2013 at 5:50 pm . Reply

    However if we won 2 out of every 5 games all season we would end up on 45 points and finish mid table.. and we dont have to play arsenal chelsea and liverpool every 5 games 😉 you can put either a positive or negative spin on things at the moment. Lets give the team till Christmas then pass judgment.

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