Liverpool – Villa; A bad time to play them

The good news (or is it?) is that I’ll be going to the game, along with numerous members of the family.

I had planned to go home this weekend, but it’s hardly worth it if I have to drive up again tomorrow afternoon when I’m already here anyway. And seeing as I’m saying up here, I might as well go to work, as sit in an apartment in decidedly cold Liverpool.

It’ll be my fifth week of seven days on the trot, something my immediate boss will seriously complain about when he comes back off his holiday, as it’s against company policy. But who cares? Spanish bills don’t pay themselves and even football clubs put money above anything else. Anyway, nobody was against seven days a week over the last 25 years in my case, when it was practically compulsory. And as a self employed person, I’ve previously (not seriously) threatened to take my client to court for restriction of trade. I don’t really think that flag would fly, as being rested regularly is surely sensible.

I’m rattling. I’ve been invited by a red fan to a cafe to meet up, but frankly, I’m more interested in getting a few compulsory jars down my neck. As I’m sure many other travelling fans will. 8pm is a totally irresponsible time for a kick-off, but hey, TV companies chase the money too, don’t they?

Squad news first then and Tilemans is expected to be fit, but has a niggling injury that has omitted him from Belgium’s squad. Hopefully, it’s just pretend, so he doesn’t have to play in a rubbish tournament that nobody wants.

Ross Barkley is definitely out until after the international rubbish and Cash “missed Wednesday’s 1-0 Champions League defeat at Club Brugge due to injury.” That’s from the OS and is as clear as mud. Is he fit or not? Who writes for a Premier league club and puts that in the team news? Probably has a degree though, so it’s all good. Jesus!

Apart from that, I think everyone else is fit and available.

As for Pool, Alisson Becker, Federico Chiesa, Harvey Elliott and Diogo Jota are ruled out. Some decent players there, although my red workmate isn’t missing Alisson in the slightest. Jota is a big miss imo, but they’re doing fine without him.

What to think then?

Well, I could just copy and paste both manager’s comments, but to sum up, Slot seems to indicate that he knows exactly what Villa and Emery are about. So much so, that he seems to hint that we’re very predictable;

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/liverpool-v-aston-villa-team-news-2

Whereas Emery seems to comment on how we need to be able to play 3 games a week and be mentally and physically in a good place;

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/november/08/emery-quizzed-ahead-of-liverpool

I’m probably reading too much in those comments, but they pretty much align with my thinking.

Liverpool probably have the best form of any team in the world, let alone the Premier league.

Whereas when we play, we look like we’re running in treacle, with no pace or even seemingly much desire to play in the way we did last season, with rapid passing and one touch football eminating from a ball launched from the back. It’s all too slow and if we play like that, Pool will detroy us, in my opinion.

Hence I’m going for a 3-0 loss and I fear it could be a lot worse. Our defence is horrendous, after all.

My red workmate is expecting more like 5-0 and I’d be minded to agree with him, except things are never as extreme as you think.

Which takes me back to the first couple of lines.

Is being able to go to this game a good thing?

The only plus I have in my mind is that we are that big game side that I talked about previously after all and we at least put up a very stiff defence.

Or maybe even nick the points?

Nah, What am I thinking?

UTV!

54 Comments

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  1. Holte
    Holte November 9, 2024 at 6:14 pm . Reply

    Not looking forward to tonight’s game. If Pool score early on it could be an embarrassing score line. It’s funny that a few weeks ago after beating Bayern, that we are now after 3 defeats in a row, hoping for a draw or a respectable defeat. I really can’t see a win and the international break can’t come soon enough.
    Are Emery’s tactics becoming too predictable and teams are now better prepared to play against us?
    Things change quickly in terms of fans opinions. One minute we are all praising Emery and suddenly after a few defeats there are a few questions about our way of playing.
    When we are winning we are okay with the ponderous passing between our defenders and Martinez. We have learnt to be patient knowing we are waiting for the transition in play. When things are going wrong we become frustrated by the lack of urgency and inability to break down a compact defence. Our ability to find forwards offside if not by the linesman (referees assistant or whatever) but by VAR is suddenly not happening.
    Prediction from me 3-0 to Pool!

  2. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year November 9, 2024 at 6:22 pm . Reply

    It’s been a crazy season so far so I predict a 2-1 win for Villa (and no, I haven’t had a drink…yet).
    Keep the faith.

  3. Joey Vimsante
    Joey Vimsante November 9, 2024 at 7:13 pm . Reply

    Villa v Liverpool is a massive game. I think Villa will win.

  4. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum November 9, 2024 at 7:47 pm . Reply

    Spoke to a Reds fan earlier who, like me fancies a 2-1 Villa win!

    1. Gerry
      Gerry November 9, 2024 at 8:51 pm . Reply

      Nothing wrong with the way we have played. They know they are in a game. A few good chances but once again nothing from our front two.. our right hand side good again. Or defence solid happy to be a villa fan again . Feck. Ramsay… Not again please

      1. BFR
        BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:13 pm . Reply

        Should’ve sold him when we had the chance. Sorry to say he’s looks like joining the long list of very good players who never reached their potential because of frequent injuries.

  5. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum November 9, 2024 at 8:42 pm . Reply

    It’s pretty much an evenly matched game so far. Apart from their well taken goal.

  6. Steve
    Steve November 9, 2024 at 8:51 pm . Reply

    Hallelujah
    Ramsey I get it one of our own and all that BUT
    He is never a top 6 player
    Does create nothing for me I’m afraid
    Look where we finished last season without him

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand November 9, 2024 at 8:58 pm . Reply

      I thought he was playing well but hey ho it’s all about opinions?
      Much improved on Wednesday’s debacle but oh how Ollie really does need to find his shooting boots.
      This Ref ain’t gonna give us shite, looks totally intimidated by Anfield.

  7. Holte
    Holte November 9, 2024 at 9:06 pm . Reply

    I thought Ramsey was our best player. Typical he’s the one who is injured. I’m as angry about the goal tonight as the one against Brugge. MacPhee should know better they are the quickest team at counter attacking, yet we should have conceded a second in exactly the same way. Let’s expect another early second half goal conceded before the humiliation.

  8. BFR
    BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:08 pm . Reply

    What is missing from Villa’s play?

    1. BFR
      BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:10 pm . Reply

      Exemplified by Rogers’ pitiful attempt at goal when clean through…what’s missing?

      1. The Ron Saunders Stand
        The Ron Saunders Stand November 9, 2024 at 9:14 pm . Reply

        Not clinical enough?

        1. BFR
          BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:17 pm . Reply

          Conviction. So pretty much what you said, RSS.
          And lack of conviction stems from a lack of… ?

          1. The Ron Saunders Stand
            The Ron Saunders Stand November 9, 2024 at 9:28 pm . Reply

            Belief I’d say?

            1. BFR
              BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:32 pm . Reply

              Correct, RSS. Which is a worry because once that goes, it’s hard to get back.

  9. Steve
    Steve November 9, 2024 at 9:12 pm . Reply

    Not saying Ramsey is not a good player
    He ain’t a top 6 player for me I’m
    Flatters to deceive at times
    Maginn got to play central to get the best out of him

  10. BFR
    BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:16 pm . Reply

    Luca Digne when looking at the ref: “it’s like looking in a mirror. Only… not.”

  11. Holte
    Holte November 9, 2024 at 9:17 pm . Reply

    I’ve had it with Bailey. Ship him out in January.

  12. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson November 9, 2024 at 9:29 pm . Reply

    If we are carrying players then Ollie Watkins meets that criticism, his work as centre forward has slipped as I’m writing this they are taking Watkins off which proves my point. We won’t get anything from this game our system all wrong with this tiptap approach.

    1. BFR
      BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:38 pm . Reply

      To quote the commentator on the foreign channel I’m watching, as Ollie came off: “Watkins looks literally exhausted”

  13. BFR
    BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:40 pm . Reply

    Even there. Why did Rogers let it go for a corner? Why not keep it in and drive at goal?

  14. BFR
    BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:46 pm . Reply

    Konsa sprints back and makes it. But instead of cleaning Mo and his ball out, goes to the net. 🤦🤦🤦

  15. Holte
    Holte November 9, 2024 at 9:47 pm . Reply

    And Carlos costs us yet again.
    Players to ship out:-
    Carlos
    Bailey
    Philogene

    1. BFR
      BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:49 pm . Reply

      Don’t forget big Ty.

    2. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand November 9, 2024 at 10:04 pm . Reply

      Philogene…
      I really don’t get why we bought him back?

      1. BFR
        BFR November 10, 2024 at 3:52 pm . Reply

        Because we couldn’t afford anything better, due to being ****** by FFP. By the same token, we seriously miss Diaby. Very seriously. The squad was weakened in the summer, which is exactly what the bent powers that be wanted. Job done. Meanwhile, the financial shambles that are Chelsea and United regroup quietly and are allowed to get on with it. They’ll soon regain their God given right to the top 4, and the squatters that are Aston Villa will be evicted. Let them do their f******* super league and everyone will be well rid.

  16. BFR
    BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:48 pm . Reply

    We’re “in a bit of treacle”, to quote Paul Merson.

  17. Tom
    Tom November 9, 2024 at 9:48 pm . Reply

    That’s it game over!!! We had a chance, but Phil gene doesn’t hit the ball when driving into the box, Roger’s goes for a corner and basically says you bring your boys up and we will bring ours and we will have a go at a corner! No no no, you have them on the ropes and running back to their on goal. Ball in the box now…….. we wasted so so so many opportunities and Ollie Watkins must come out to Emery and say I’m not feeling it!!!! Because his last 10 minutes was him waiting to come off.

    1. BFR
      BFR November 9, 2024 at 9:54 pm . Reply

      Exactly, Tom. As I said: Lack of conviction, which comes from lack of belief.
      We have identified the problems for free. Those who are handsomely paid need to find the solutions! Quickly!

  18. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson November 9, 2024 at 9:52 pm . Reply

    That’s why it’s all wrong, why do we constantly play out from the back every time, with no long balls Liverpool twice or more did the long ball and we paid the price. Change the bloody system for god’s sake .

  19. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum November 9, 2024 at 9:57 pm . Reply

    Well that was shite.

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand November 9, 2024 at 10:10 pm . Reply

      An improvement on Wednesday’s shower?
      To be fair IF Ollie was wearing a Red shirt you can guarantee a pen would have been awarded AND Torres, if someone pulls your shirt on the halfway line is it not a foul?
      Your honour, I rest my case.

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