After my last post, things have become a bit more clearer about what’s happened to cause the worrying that many Villa fans are going through and surprise, surprise, it’s the Villa PR department that seems to have messed up.
While it’s understandable that converting Chinese to English can be problematic, it’s not the first time they’ve messed up (remember they couldn’t even get Remi Garde’s name right when we appointed him?) and it just makes the whole club look amateurish.
Whoever is giving the nod for what goes out needs his position looking at, in my opinion.
Anyway, while the original statement said that Recon hold controlling stakes in 5 listed companies, it now appears The group holding company owns, directly and indirectly, the shares of several publicly listed companies on the Hong Kong and Chinese stock exchanges and many other private companies employing 35,000 people in 75 countries.
Apparently the group controls one company and is about to take control of 4 other companies, which is possibly where the confusion came about.
But if you look at the actual wording above, it’s a meaningless statement. Notice it doesn’t mention a controlling share at all.
I own shares in 13 companies listed on the London stock exchange, but does that mean I could buy the Villa?
Of course I couldn’t.
Which on the face of it, is all quite worrying.
But I was more buoyed by the supposed fact that the Recon group, or more accurately, one of it’s subsidiaries, apparently managed to raise £5 billion as Venture capital money.
The relevant article is supposed to be in here somewhere;
http://www.reconig.com/htm/pps.htm
Except it seems the site has been down for a while.
A coincidence?
I very much doubt it. But I don’t think I find that particularly worrying. It’s probably about trying to keep the media off the scent.
Before you all think I’m nuts, let me explain.
I’m working on the assumption that the £5 billion statement is true(ish).
And if it is, I don’t care where that money came from.
The fact is, if any company can raise that sort of money, it has to have something about it.
If that’s down to it being a pukka company, so much the better.
But I suspect it isn’t and this might be where the Chinese government come into it.
What the £5 billion’s about, I couldn’t say, but it’s probably about other projects that may or may not have anything to do with us as a club.
Quite simply, I’m even more convinced that Recon is basically a front for the Chinese government.
Yes, it’s guesswork, but remember Xia was groomed by the government and it wasn’t without reason.
The biggest concern for me now is will they manage to get this past the PL and FL “fit and proper” tests and my money says they will.
Regardless of what I think of Steve Holis, he’s no mug and will know how the system works, although his comments about China’s “bird nest” stadium do leave some cause for concern.
How could he have got that so wrong?
And then there’s other news, in that Dr Xia apparently knows who our next manager is;
http://english.cctv.com/2016/05/21/VIDEYK6efVnOuvv3qKqT715t160521.shtml
It’s all in the last couple of sentences.
But the previous comments are all along the lines of what we were told originally on the OS and are mostly wrong.
Anyway, I find the comment a bit cryptic;
“As for now the question on everyone’s lips is who is going to take charge in the dug-out at Villa Park.
“I would rather keep it a secret for one more week. And I hope all the fans, including myself, will accept he will be the right one,” Xia said.”
Why would he hope he will accept he will be the right one, if he chose him?
Which quite simply tells me he hasn’t chosen him at all and as I previously suggested, he’ll go with who’s been recommended.
Whatever, if the statement is to be believed, we’ll know who he is in a week.
Which is a good reason to have a poll asking who we want again, now that Rodgers is out of the frame.
Yes, I ran one quite recently, but things change.
And I’ve added Flores, as I’d take him over some of the other choices.
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And I thought it was all a bona fide curtain twitching, whispers in corners, cloak-and-dagger, hush hush, surreptitious Chinese government takeover?
Seriously you lot have been reading too much Fleming and/or Le Carré.
Not me BWS, I’m Shakespeare to be or not to be, that is the question? do we or don’t we.
Bill sorry mate but you’re bard.
Nice one , how about (love all trust a few, do wrong to none) or Expectation is a root to all heartache, Shakespeare’s quotes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36359063
Its not Moyes then
It was probably always a long shot Pat. If other ‘targets’ start pulling out it might imply something negative being said privately about the sale.
Telegraph article this morning pointing to Dr Xia not being all he is supposed to be. Now Moyes has turned us down.
The fact that Moyes has publicly turned down the offer will probably put off the other managerial candidates we were considering.
I am starting to feel that Hollis took the one and only offer on the table irrespective of the well being of Aston Villa. Lerner wants as much as he can and Hollis is working directly for Lerner not Aston Villa FC.
The SAGA continues.
I was told two weeks ago (before the dimatteo / moyes headlines) that it was a 2 horse race between Pearson and Bruce (def leaving hull at the end of the season whether they go up or not).
I do not usually get ITK crap but this one i believe.
I think if there’s too many question marks for the fa he’s a goner,everytime I come on here there’s something iffy about him.well it’s worked I’m pessimistic for sure now
There’s ways and means to pass fit and proper test though. If you know what I mean
That usually have a large brown plain paper envelope in the plot somewhere.
Giddy – I started out fully enthusiastic now I have some doubts and I’m not entirely sure Dr Xia passing his PL driving test will fully allay them. The media are saying Samuelson is one of his advisors and he was involved in the acquisition (or at least with the board) of Reading when subsequently the Russian owner ‘disappeared’ and they all but went bust – following which Samuelson tried to buy them with his investment group Phoenix and failed.
Something just doesn’t feel right here but then I’ve been wrong more than right!
Hitch what worries me is the knock on effect it’ll have on the club if he’s refused.a rudderless club would be an understatement very worrying
We’ve been rudderless for years!
Get what you’re saying though Giddy.
Just a bit fed up of seeing a light at the end of the tunnel and finding out its an eighty ton truck on its way to demolish whatever slim hopes of success we might have misguidedly entertained for our club.
Will something good ever happen to the Villa again? I’m beginning to have doubts.
What with Moyes turning us down it don’t look a sound move, I was full of hope and glory, now I’m depressed again, and as for Moyes I didn’t want him anyway.
ffs ,cant take much more doom and gloom,well probably end up getting taken over by some two bit consortium with not a pot to piss in an end up in league two
I hope it’s an Aston Villa shocks the football world managerial appointment and no financial meltdown nonsense over the months. Juande Ramos with Gustavo Poyet as his assistant.
More chance of getting Abbott and Costello.
And more entertaining!
lmao Moyes withdraws his name from the villa position. bloody good job, fooking waste of space, thats all we needed another loser with baggage. if you failed at utd with all their players at their disposal. his venture in spain even more of embarrassment. the villa job will be too big for him. best retire or manager celtic or rangers, time wasters need not apply
Bloody hell…I wonder if it’ll be Pelligrini on a mission of revenge…????
Surely the delay points to it being Steve Bruce? Proven record of promotion, still has a home in the area and the announcement will be delayed until after play off final – rumour is he’s leaving whether they go up or not
Roberto di matteo odds have fallen again, hes odds on the lazio job must have fallen through. if the two men are him and pearson. it has to be pearson you would have thought. 5 months without a manager is way too long. pick one feck sake
Agree Pearson is ok but def no to Di matteo he’s crap
Big Centre TV sports chat say Bruce looks likely if we are waiting for the play off’s to finish.
By the time we get the sale through the pre season friendlies will be gone.
No not potato head blue nose scum. Get pearson
Im more concerned with the owner at the moment .SURELY TONY must be cosha or he wouldnt have thrown his name in to take over?
Some of the papers tonight reporting that DiMatteo is to have further talks with Villa; apparently Hollis wants Pearson, but Xia wants DiMatteo.
Strangely none of them mention Bruce at this time…
Di potato would be a disaster hope thats not true