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  1. Lionheart
    Lionheart September 14, 2013 at 10:44 pm . Reply

    Jay Dee what team do we pick for a 4-4-2.. we don’t have the middle two for 4-4-2..

    Rather we could drop Weiman and play Tonev.. Drop K EA and play Sylla.. the middle three are a problem creative wise full stop.. but Sylla and Delph should be def starters..

  2. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones September 14, 2013 at 10:44 pm . Reply

    Just a thought the only bright spark we Villa fans are likely to see this season is if Lamberk & Lerner could be sent to the electric chair.Oh sorry along with the Lambert,s LEMMINGS.

    1. Foxy
      Foxy September 15, 2013 at 7:09 pm . Reply

      Alternatively we could just send you in for electroshock therapy for your complete and utter negativity!

      1. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones September 15, 2013 at 7:53 pm . Reply

        Oh FOXY Oohah will be pleased you are not all hiding under the stairs you have come out to defend him PL i mean or was it just until the flak had cleared after yesterdays shambles.Even some of your positive mates are now having doubts.

      2. BWS
        BWS September 15, 2013 at 8:09 pm . Reply

        Fuckoff Foxy this is our 4th season of struggling you and your likes with your American type bullshit positivety are the ones that need an electrode shoving right up their arses.
        And where the fuck were you at 5 o’clock yesterday with your positive post? Fucking nowhere because you knew you’d be shot down in flames,

        1. Terry Jones
          Terry Jones September 15, 2013 at 8:25 pm . Reply

          BWS He was hiding under the bed sheets in case the bogey man said boo to him.

  3. Lionheart
    Lionheart September 14, 2013 at 10:44 pm . Reply

    Jay Dee what team do we pick for a 4-4-2.. we don’t have the middle two for 4-4-2..
    Rather we could drop Weiman and play Tonev.. Drop K EA and play Sylla.. the middle three are a problem creative wise full stop.. but Sylla and Delph should be def starters..

    1. Andrew
      Andrew September 14, 2013 at 10:53 pm . Reply

      Sylla, Delph and Tonev who can play central as he for Bulgaria usually starts up top but often drifts out wide or drops back to pick up the ball/interchange with Popov. That would force Weimann to have to start then as Kozak’s not a winger nor is Helenius. Though feel that would give more cover to the fullbacks who will burst forward still.

  4. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones September 14, 2013 at 10:59 pm . Reply

    Sir Oohah where are the Lambert,s LEMMINGS tonight not out defending him are they in hiding or are already lining up to jump off the Rotunda better get me shovel out go scrap them up make a terrible mess on New Street.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 14, 2013 at 11:08 pm . Reply

      Ha ha lamberts lemmings are hiding in shame mate. Did u see Barry on motd fuck me we missed out big time not getting him

  5. adam
    adam September 15, 2013 at 12:10 am . Reply

    The main thing that annoys me is the use of subs. We bought new players lets fucking use them and change it up a bit, give them 70 mins instead of 5 mins now and again lets see if any of them shine. If we play the same players week in week out our style of play will be obviously the same and predictable as it has been so far. Start bacuna at right back give lowton a rest. Weimann for tonev, helenius for gabby. that would be a start!

  6. Villan1
    Villan1 September 15, 2013 at 12:31 am . Reply

    Not surprised one bit by the defeat.
    We are woeful at home and have been for years
    Ball retention remains a major problem and we all know were crying out for a playmaker, well everyone except randy and paul.
    Ill get slated for it but im afraid lambert never has been and never will be able to organise a defence. 9 months without a league clean sheet is abysmal and shameful.
    We’ll stay up again because of Benteke but when CB leaves, were screwed.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 10:32 am . Reply

      Spot on villain 1 also if lamberk can’t organise a defence at least get a defensive coach in. It’s unbelievable wev not got a def coach

  7. Ian Shearer
    Ian Shearer September 15, 2013 at 12:43 am . Reply

    With Gabby missing a sitter, it shows that Benteke is the only hot striker we have. This puts pressure on the defence because we have to limit the oppos to 1 goal if we want any points.
    We do not have the goalkeeper to do that. Guzan has given away two really bad goals, Chelsea’s first and Newcastle’s second. In both cases he punched the ball quite deliberately, and it went exactly where the punch was aimed. Firstly into the chest of his own player for an OG and today the ball went to the only Newcastle forward who was in the clear. This proved he did not look and it is not the play of a top class Keeper. He won’t improve. 25 consecutive failures to keep a clean sheet tells the rest of the story.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 10:41 am . Reply

      That’s harsh Ian I think if it wasn’t for Guzan overal we would have had more hammering s. admittedly he could have done better for their second goal but where was the defence to act when the ball ran loose. For the first goal kae lost the ball fir the umpteenth time lowton might as well have not been there the guy my mate vlaar was marking just got in front of him-when vlaar should have cut out cross to be fair-then nicked it past him for their forward to have a virtual open goal. Can’t blame Guzan for letting in a virtual open goal. Their second goal was a replica of what Ben arfa did a few minutes earlier he run at defence cut inside on the left and Guzan saved well. But un believably a few minutes later they let arfa do exactly the same thing which led to their goal. The big worry is we have learned nothing from last year and we are still not learning from our mistakes.

  8. Benno
    Benno September 15, 2013 at 6:44 am . Reply

    Having seen how well Barkley played for Everton today makes me think its time we gave Gardner a run in the team. Let him play in behind Benteke, see if he is cracked up to be

    1. Foxy
      Foxy September 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm . Reply

      That’s not a bad call, Benno

  9. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson September 15, 2013 at 8:30 am . Reply

    Its 8 15 and I’m still steaming mad about that game, and hearing what that twat was saying makes me even mader, Villa 1 and Jumbo both spot on with your assumptions of that shit game, has things gone wrong in that dressing room because they did not try yesterday, Luna, Wiesmann, Kae, shite, why some saying Lowton ?he at least has a method crossing balls its twats that stand and watch and don’t get stuck in we should pick out, how many times has Luna made mistakes every game he is guilty on one or two, watching games yesterday we are not even in the frame to be contenders, more likely to be bottom 4, Sunderland was better than us, so was the other bottom teams, we have problems and ho boy big ones.

    1. Bill Pearson
      Bill Pearson September 15, 2013 at 8:34 am . Reply

      Jimbo .:-)

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 10:44 am . Reply

      I said after watching Luna in a few friendly s that lamberk has replaced like with like IMO. I would say that Luna is a fraction better than Bennett but that is nowhere near good enough. Lambert has tried to be clever by trying to build a top ten team on the cheap. He got lucky with Benteke but the rest are very average IMO except maybe okore.

      1. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson September 15, 2013 at 11:27 am . Reply

        Damage done you can say with the likes of Luna, having said that you could point your finger at 3 or not up to standard, just think people renewed tickets, bought tops, gave up other things to go to games and what we’ve got shite players, how can the likes of Fulham , Newcastle, Stoke, and others show improved performance and we just lucky not to be bottom again, then the twat says he’s proud of the players, I’m steadily lost bothering knowing things are not happening with Aston Villa.

        1. Bill Pearson
          Bill Pearson September 15, 2013 at 11:28 am . Reply

          3 or 4….

        2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 1:01 pm . Reply

          More fool the idiots that bought into another relegation battle. I think season ticket sales will be down next season when benteke goes. The attendance yesterday was 37k but so many empty seats. They go by how many seats sold so assuming 20k st holders if no one attended the attendance would still be 20k!!!

  10. Bencey83
    Bencey83 September 15, 2013 at 9:41 am . Reply

    Get Sylla back in for starters! What has the guy done wrong?! He was probably our best player other than Benteke towards the end of last season. Westwood not cutting it for me at the moment and KEA was out-bossed again yesterday. Let’s see a bit of width and, like Jimbo says, try Tonev and Gabby out wide and whip the ball in to our big target men – we’ve got three now with Benteke, Kozak and Helenius, for goodness sake, let’s use that to our advantage or what’s the point in having them?! And get Baker back in the back four. Give Weimann a bit of time out and he’ll come back fresher. Mix up the starting line-up and the tactics please, Mr Lambert! We’re becoming far too one-dimensional!

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 10:48 am . Reply

      Agree about sylla can’t do any worse IMO. Did u see Barry on motd what a great job he did as dm for them why the fuck didn’t lamberk go for him instead of kozac. It’s a joke

  11. Bencey83
    Bencey83 September 15, 2013 at 9:50 am . Reply

    Is relying on Benteke to keep us up much different to relying on Bent to keep us up?!

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 10:45 am . Reply

      Yep can’t argue with that just hope we have a 20 goal striker when he goes. Who can blame him

  12. Naughtius Maximus
    Naughtius Maximus September 15, 2013 at 1:01 pm . Reply

    i said before the game that anything less than 3 pts would be piss poor and as we all know the performance was piss poor and most surprisingly was a seeming lack of effort, there was a lot of walking about going on yesterday and the passing…..OMG the passing, players winning balls only to then go pass a 3 yard pass under no pressure straight to the opposition.
    i wont go over everything as im sure we’ve covered it all but for me we were just way, way too narrow, they were using the whole pitch while we seemed intent on fighting through a crowed centre while luna and lowton were often in acres of space out wide.
    once more ive got to question lamberts tatics in bringing on kozack when for me tonev or helleius would have been a better opiontion, what were we playing then? 4-2-4?
    very poor all round, once more no plan b and poor effort, as i said piss poor.

  13. Lionheart
    Lionheart September 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm . Reply

    I can understand what PL is trying to do.. he has a very small budget and he can’t pay anyone on average more then 20K it seems.. so it is very hard for him to get quality in.. hi hands are tied and that is down to RL and the purse strings..

    Having said that a few things baffle me.. why is Sylla nowhere to be seen.. he has hardly played in pre season and in the first four games of the season.. i thought he would grow as a player but the fact he hasn’t been played must mean PL hasn’t seen improvement..

    Also 4-2-4 with four strikers uptop and two in the middle who can’t create in the loacal 5 a side league.. that CANNOT be plan B..

    Tonev.. Helenuis.. Bacuna where brought in the summer and they need to be used more otherwise why buy them..

    Plus it seems like Okore and Vlaar are looking solid but with no cover in front and full backs all over the place there work is being made a lot more difficult..

    1. Foxy
      Foxy September 15, 2013 at 3:55 pm . Reply

      I think Sylla was injured in pre-season

  14. Terry Jones
    Terry Jones September 15, 2013 at 4:14 pm . Reply

    Oohah my very good compatriot at arms have you seen the last two submissions i have made for discussion.Anyway apart from that does any true Villa fan really think that things are going to change under this regime is The City of Birmingham going to have a football club to be proud of.Answer is no not whilst we have a owner whom as less of a brain than a Orangutan and a manager whom is so rapped up in his own ego he thinks that the fans are still going to hang onto every word and excuse he spews out of his mouth.Enough is Enough either he Lamberk and Lerner change direction or we will not have a club to support and that is fact not fiction.

  15. astonman
    astonman September 15, 2013 at 6:10 pm . Reply

    It makes me sick to see the likes of Southampton and Norwich spending big money on good quality players while we buy second rate unknowns for peanuts. We are competing with the dregs of the EPL. Everything we do.is cheap and nasty with not one ounce.of ambiton. How in the name of McGrath have so many fans fallen for all this american bullsh*t is beyond are they on drugs ? Lerner has been and continues to be a total disaster

    1. BWS
      BWS September 15, 2013 at 6:19 pm . Reply

      Talking to a fella in the curry house last night that hires a box and does it for corporate (entertaining clients and so on) and he said there is something very dark going on at VP and all is not kosher.

  16. Benno
    Benno September 15, 2013 at 6:41 pm . Reply

    Im still seething about us finishing by playing 4-2-4 yesterday. You dont even see that in Sunday league. Ridiculous and just when I was starting to think Lambert knew what he was doing.

    1. T
      T September 15, 2013 at 6:55 pm . Reply

      BENNO mate he is as clueless as Mc clueless.

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 9:25 pm . Reply

        If lambert was mcleish we would be hanging him from the rafters of the holte end by now. Mcleish is no worse than lambert in terms of getting results for us just that he played negative football. Though watching game yesterday we was completely clueless 424 ffs

  17. Andrew
    Andrew September 15, 2013 at 7:54 pm . Reply

    Being linked with Popov again. Some Russian paper said that Kuban told us it’d take 8m pounds to sign him. Definitely a player we need.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 9:19 pm . Reply

      I wish Lerner and lambert would popov! 🙂

  18. tom
    tom September 15, 2013 at 8:36 pm . Reply

    So who is happy Lambert hasn’t signed a new contract yet? I say he has the next 6 games to turn this round,10 at the most. We shouldn’t have to suffer a 4th relegation battle. The majority of our expectations have been lowered to a mid table finish this season. I do believe we have some quality players who could deliver a good season and with as little as 1 solid signing in January we could just push a top six. Part of being a good manager is being dynamic and Paul Lambert is almost being bashful and certainly naive if he believes a counter attacking 4 3 3, home and away will see us comfortable this season. I believe Lambert has the qualities to get back to a good start but lets just not leave it to let again please.I spotted a grey hair on my head at the end of last season and ill hold Aston villa football club responsible for the second if this season replicates the last 3!

    1. Bill Pearson
      Bill Pearson September 15, 2013 at 9:25 pm . Reply

      Tom I hear and see where your coming from, but don’t you think that this problem has been going on far to long, enough is enough Tom I have been on the side of change at Villa for far to long , normally I would say give it 6 to 10 games but if you see crap ideas of who plays where in wrong places you begin to wonder if they know what to do. We all don’t trust the yank, might have got a manager to do his begging, ie , save money just keep us solvent and not to worry about league places. Tom born under them lights mate but ready to throw the towel in ,can you blame me at pensional age, this is not the Villa I knew from 1940s no guts mate. Sorry.

      1. Terry Jones
        Terry Jones September 15, 2013 at 10:13 pm . Reply

        Bill mate nice to see some are beginning to see the light.Thought at the time Mon went we were going to see the last of Villa ever making any sort of challenge to the top four.Now after four years of on the slid can;t see how people can still come on here and defend Lambert or Lerner and say in Lambert we trust.Bloody hell mate would not trust him to take a dog for a walk.You know the stick Oohah and myself have took for our views.

  19. astonman
    astonman September 15, 2013 at 8:54 pm . Reply

    My biggest gripe apart from our American twat is that Lambert has failed to cure any of the problems from last season. Sh*te defence and no creativity in midfield. as usual the Villa manager has been given a ‘limited budget’ but what has neen spent has not improved the team. The whole club is rotten to the core because of poor management. Lerner’s fall out with MON the appointment of a manager with health problems the appointment of a manager with 2 relegations on his CV the appointment of Faulkner the selling off of our best players and buying crap cheap replacements. And some fans wonder why we are shit ! You dont have to be Einstein.to work it out.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 15, 2013 at 9:22 pm . Reply

      And yet we still have posters on here with their heads up their arses thinking everything is great ffs!

  20. Kerryvillan
    Kerryvillan September 16, 2013 at 8:34 pm . Reply

    Transition, transition, transition! The only idiots talkin about transition this year are the negative pricks, Lambert learner op players have not mentioned it once! Talk about over fuckin reactions, you can do no right with retarded fans who hav no clue about football, if we had changed the starting line up and formation all the negs would be sayin why did we change a team that’s playing well! If we pass it short all the fans start booing and want us to play it long or quick, ye have no patience and bearly a brain cell! One second ye want Lambert to get a new contract next ye expect us to beat Liverpool who i said would be much harder to beat than any idiots here expected and the same with newcastle who by far have a better midfield than us and way more creativity! I thought a draw would have been good enough and we could hav had it if gabby didn’t miss da sitter! Im not sayin Lambert is brilliant i don’t like the signings he has made, sure we hav a better squad but he has in no way improved our starting 11, and all this talk about relagation already its been 4 games ye dumb fuckin shitheads 3 of those games against to 5 teams, logic and common sense seems to not matter to people on this site but i tell u 1 thing Lambert has far more of a clue than any idiot here including me! Patience is needed not this up down over reaction bi-polar bullshit ye keep goin on about, i suggest drinking less to keep what little brains ye have left!

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath September 16, 2013 at 8:57 pm . Reply

      Fuck me didn’t u post exactly the same last year. Lets not judge them over 4 games we will be ok bollocks. Your boring the team is in serious trouble our best centre half is injured our right bk has gone to pieces our left back is no better than Bennett our midfield is clueless in a report they said kae performance was the worst ever seen in the prem Westwood us a shadow of the player last year weiman no where near what he was last year and gone backwards gabby missing sitters the normally reliable Guzan flapping for their second lamberk reverting to a 424 formation Ffs no clean sheet for 26 games marginally avoided relegation by the skin of our teeth the last 2 seasons outspent by teams like Swansea and Southampton the worst goal diff ever last year but hey ho you think everything is rosy and we are all being negative for the sake of it. You need to take your rosé tinted bullshit glasses off and get into the real world!

      1. Kerryvillan
        Kerryvillan September 17, 2013 at 6:53 am . Reply

        Did i saw everything is rosey? No don’t believe i did! In fact i said i wasn’t happy with the signings made but u said yourself i said the same last year that we’ll be safe guess what…i was right! And your were wrong like always full of shit with no facts or figures and any facts used in a debate u just blindly pass them by so you can spread more negative bullshit, i agree westwood has become invisible, sylla who was a revelation since January can’t get a game who knows y? Lowton is starting to struggle all true but after 4 games noting matters when 30 games are played and we’re in trouble then for once in your miserable depressing life you will be right but until them everything that comes out of your 1track mind is hearsay and bullshit, even this shit with clean sheets! Clean sheet Will never win a cup or a league i know how much u loved the negative crap u and mcClueless want us to play but sorry i prefer watching football and thinkin we can win a couple games! U will see who is right at da end of this season! AGAIN!!

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath September 17, 2013 at 8:49 am . Reply

          I’m not saying we will def go down but we are certainly bottom 5/6 yet again. You have bought into Lerners vision that staying up is now the holy grail. It’s because of fans like u he has been allowed to get away with it.

          1. Kerryvillan
            Kerryvillan September 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm . Reply

            Yes sorry i forgot logic wouldn’t work with somebody with 1 brain cell! Again never once did i say i was happy or that i believe lerner just wants us to finish bottom 5 every time! What i have said (use that 1 cell to pay attention now)was that i expect a mid table finish this year an IMPROVEMENT on last year, just because i don’t go from extacy to depression every 5 mins doesn’t mean i am happy with a relagation battle every year! It just means i have enough brains to realise 4 games does not make a season! And its because of fans like you that players, managers and owners get disillusioned with the villa because ye don’t support ye just moan and boo and say things like im so happy i don’t go to games anymore so the club gets less money but still they should spend 40 mill a season just so that brainless idiots like u will still moan and not go 2 matches! If the fans can’t be bothered why should the players or the owner?

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