I seem to have said that a few times lately, but it’s true isn’t it?
It’s got to the state that if we drop any points, it’ll be a massive setback, because there are too many teams that are more consistent than us.
I was really hoping we’d have had at least a couple of outfield players in for this game and the fact that we haven’t is disappointing. I’m not going to get on the club’s back about it, as we all know deals aren’t easy, especially when the clubs don’t want to let them go, as is certainly the case with Lansbury.
So we are where we are and it’s as simple as that.
We can bitch and moan, but it won’t bring them in any quicker and we can only judge at the end of the window, in my opinion. Although sooner rather than later would be vastly better.
So the first thing that comes to mind again is the midfield, isn’t it?
We’re desperate for reinforcements and only have two that are….
You know what I’m going to say, so I won’t bother.
I’m concerned though that a gutless, none creative midfield is going to be going into a Derby game run by one of our ex-managers.
The omens aren’t good.
And then, where are the goals going to come from?.
I’m getting even more repetitive, aren’t I?
I know, but it’s the exact same weaknesses that manifest themselves every game after all.
Which goes back to earlier, where I really thought we’d have got some in quicker. Not so much on Bruces’s part, but certainly the likes of Round, who’s had half a season and can surely see what we’ve seen?
Squads then and on Wolves side, they have Romain Saiss away at the African nations, but Ivan Cavaleiro and Prince Oniangue are both back. Mike Williamson played last week after a long term injury and might feature again.
As for us, nothing’s changed although we can go into the game knowing that we’ll have what looks like a decent goalie. A goalie who might prove to be our most important player over the next couple of games.
You’ve probably worked out what I’m thinking and you’re right.
We have no midfield and an attack that doesn’t score.
It doesn’t take much working out, does it?
I can’t see us getting anything out of this at all.
A derby, when we’re not playing well and lack everything that’s required to win a game?
Wolves to win by two.
I can’t even raise myself to go for the draw.
The only hope is the game can’t be as bad as it was against Spurs, surely?
Here’s a proposal.
Sod playing canny. If we don’t look like winning at half time, there might as well be a major change in formation and we should go for it. Preferably with the kids going balls out, where we’ll really see how good or poor they are.
After all, we all know that if we go one down, we’ve no hope of winning a game, the way we’ve been trying up to now.
So why not try something different?
Bruce won’t do it though, because he knows what will happen.
Two hopes of getting anything out of this, imo 🙁
And the thought of Lambert in the post-match interview, jeez.
badger
there are players in division 2 better than we have for certain positions, that would crawl over broken glass to sign for a club like villa, you yourself posted about lansby been signed,bruce has been long enough to have had couple players in ,if we had a scout or manager cute enough they would be here
I’m loathe to even answer that.
All I’ll say is we know you don’t like Bruce.
well your heading when read,you didnt say one good thing about him, he is a dinosaur 42k a week for lad from forest for what,the blues highest earner less than10k aweek
we are going into a match which all on here think we will lose,with no players added to squad, we lose could be 10 points off play offs,we have let rudi go who has scored 10 goals in his limited time here ,and bruce thinks super gabby 1 goal in almost 2 years is answer,signs a keeper for 6months then lets our other keeper out for 18 months,so another new keeper in summer 8 signed since mcleish time,things are not improving
I really hope that SB doesn’t include Shabby in the starting XI – although on recent history that seems like a forlorn hope.
As you say, without any changes from the last few outings, our only chance of getting a point out of this will be to park the bus…
I’m dreading this lads, 2-0 wolves I cannot see us getting anything from this, we don’t have a forward to get goals, we don’t have a play maker, in fact we are a joke at the minute.has to be wolves game.
Badger – Sadly I’m in your camp and have this horrible feeling about tomorrow. The thought of listening to Lambert crowing post match is more than I can bear.
We are seeing the reality of trying to persuade better players to join us. We are a mid table Championship club and it doesn’t matter how deep Dr. T’s pockets are we aren’t going to persuade Prem players join us. So we have to look to the better Championship players and try and ‘bribe’ them to join us and even that seems to be fraught with difficulty.
In support of what I am saying, according to the Brum Mail our bid for Hourihane equals that if Wednesday but we have offered the guy £28k per week, four times what he currently earns. Unsettle the player to get him on board – I suspect the same with Lansbury.
Ethical? I don’t know but it’s no different to tactics used in the past with our players who other teams wanted to buy.
Most Villa fans be thinking the same no midfield and nothing up front.. Sorry to say 2 – 0 Wolves.
At least Baker and Jedi are fit which should limit the damage.
If it were me I’d start with Green and Davis up front. At least it would provide something unexpected.
However can’t disagree that it’s not looking good however being the eternal optimist I think we might scrape a draw
Wolves 1 – 1 Villa
That was partly my point Pat.
He should indeed start them.
Just to prove that it won’t work and we can put this bringing them through in our current situation, to bed, for once and all.
If we don’t get the ball up there, it doesn’t matter how well anyone up front plays.
These kids are not the answer, imo, and it’ll weaken the overall team even more.
Regardless of how us fans clamour for it generally, they’ll get ripped to pieces in this league.
I’ve watched U-23s or whatever it’s called now and midfield is none-existent for mids, let alone attackers getting back.
I’m sorry, but the standard is rubbish and I’m now seeing why there are so many foreigners in the game.
Think about it and ask how many English young players come through?
Yes, there are some, but it isn’t many.
It’s why Bruce won’t do it.
He’s being pragmatic, in trying to limit the damage as best he can, while not wanting to ruin any decent prospects at a stroke.
I’m sure he’s as frustrated as all of us.
Where’s the next Sid Cowans, or David Platt coming from??
It isn’t the Villa academy, I’d suggest Ardent.
Those days are gone, when the foreign competition is just so much better.
Platt was Crewe trained, I think?
I personally think there’s a massive problem with the way we train the kids from the age they can kick a ball, but I couldn’t profess to put my finger on it.
Even the ones that have progressed from us were pinched.
Who’s been best recently-ish?
Barry springs to mind. Nicked from Brighton, wasn’t he?
Gabby and Gardner don’t count for differing reasons, Nor Baker. (yet).
Hendrie?
None of them have gone on to be top notch.
Cahill? Was he ours all the way though? I genunely don’t know.
Or perhaps it’s more about attitude?????
I’d forgotten about Barry.
I think back to Sid at his peak:40-odd years ago; Platt 35 years ago and, OK, maybe Barry 10 years back.
But the problem isn’t just Villa’s.
Since the end of the 1980’s who have England [or Scotland/Wales/Ireland for that matter] produced as outstanding midfield players? I can only think immediately of: Roy Keane, Steven Gerard and Frank Lampard [the latter two individually, not together!]
There were others who were touted as ‘the next great thing’ – Carrick, Joe Cole – but who never quite lived up to the early promise/hype.
Somebeody will come back and mention more names that I’ve forgotten, but my point is that we just don’t see many first-class midfielders coming through British clubs any more – maybe it’s just not seen as ‘cool’ to be playing mid-field these days…?
Sir Graham brought in Platt (Crewe), Yorke (unknown from Trinidad & Tobago)and a ‘washed up’ Paul McGrath all for a song – where do you find those sort of deals today when football is driven by money and greed. You only have to look at what’s starting to happen with the Chinese Super League to see that it’s only going to get worse. I don’t think it’s sustainable then what will happen?
Forest sale to the Yanks has collapsed.
Please Mr. Al Hasawi send Lansbury over by courier ASAP
If that’s true Pat then I would expect the Lansbury deal to go through (to either us or Derby) pretty quickly. I have a lot of empathy for the Forest fans – we’ve already been there and its not nice.
Pat – you’re correct – statement on Forest web site but also Mail now saying there has been a breach of FA rules in the transfer – allegedly Dexter Blackstock who has been negotiating the deal isn’t authorised to do so – whatever that means. Why is it never simple at the Villa!
Mail saying that SB is after Conor Hourihane.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4117710/Aston-Villa-join-Sheffield-Wednesday-battle-Barnsley-captain-Conor-Hourihane-tabling-1million-bid.html
Didn’t know that Conor was at Sunderland when Stevie was there.
Here’s hoping!
i have seen the under 23 or 21 it used to be. i think we have a few prospects. but they are not finished articles by any means. bruce doesn’t like to turn his 1st team into finishing school. he rather have than sent to another on loan. but we do have youngsters coming through. green isnt too far away from championship standards. sellars & davis both have talents, where they fail on is they are not streetwise enough for week in and out football. but they will be. if i was manager, i would blood one of them towards the end of the game, like green he can play the left side role which we are short. ok start with bacuna and bring green on last 20 minutes. same with davis while we are short of a main attacker, he has the game to lead the line, better than gabby does or ever could. again he isnt ready to start, but bring him on last 20 if you can.
game against wolves, well lambert will be rallying his team to revenge him for sure. i wish him luck, for me he was hamstrung by a owner that just didn’t care. in fact lambert was his fallguy. hard to predict this one. really depends on the line ups both field. iam going for 1/1 draw
time for mcormack to step up. good excuse being in the shadows of kodjia, but hes not here now. show the fans why the club paid massive money for you.
We’re crap away so it’s a 1-0 defeat.
Aston Villa could finally seal the transfer of midfielder Henri Lansbury from Sky Bet Championship rivals Nottingham Forest after a takeover deal for The Reds fell through late on Friday evening.
Villa are believed to have seen a transfer offer for the player in excess of £3 million accepted by Forest however a possible deal was rumoured to be on hold until the completion of an American consortium’s takeover of The Reds.
The takeover talks at The City Ground have now ended and current Forest owner Fawaz Al Hasawi has confirmed that the deal has collapsed much to the disappointment of the club’s long suffering fans.
The Birmingham Mail have now reported that Aston Villa’s move for Lansbury could be hurried to completion with Forest possibly in need of the funds to strengthen their squad after a transfer embargo was lifted by the English Football League.
Lansbury joined Forest in August 2012 from Premier League club Arsenal in a deal believed to be worth £1 million. The midfielder has gone on to make 150 appearances for The Reds scoring 33 goals. The player is out of contract at The City Ground in the summer and Forest could choose to cash in on the player to prevent losing him as a free agent.
The midfielder is not expected to feature for Forest in their match against Birmingham City at St Andrews on Saturday.
2-1 Villa in an emotional thriller for Big GT.
Heard that they’re putting a special tribute on for GT at Wolves before the match.
Only right.
2.0 to wolves. Gabby is playing so no chance of scoring
Me, you can have your Fergies, Venger’s , Graham Taylor will always be in my heart, even now tears as if he’s one of the family. I thank Wolves-Villa for the tributes to Graham Taylor.
can i ask what was wrong with my earlier post. seems to be totally removed and after i posted it was in mod. i don’t believe i swore, are you banning the bad post,looks like i’ll have to improve
so i again say 1.1 scoreline
Nath your post at 8.05am is still there unless you’ve posted one since mate
yeah was before i headed out this morning. i cant find it lol if its been allowed in thats great. i thought my tourettes was kicking in again lmao
I see tish is starting was all that nonsense dreamt up by the media is ask myself
Why is Gabby starting again?????????? Baker unfortunately out. Arse.
Lost Baker in the warm up – bad omen
Grealish benched. About right.