Last weekend, two Premier League managers were sacked, Steve Clarke of West Brom and Andre Villas-boas of Tottenham. Many Aston Villa fans are slowly beginning to get fed up with Lambert’s tactics and may have already assessed Aston Villa in the hands of a new manager. Obviously if Randy Lerner has had enough, he would sack Lambert before January. However, historically, Lerner is yet to sack a manager mid-season. But based on results and current standings, we are 11th place, which isn’t too bad. In-fact we are in range of our expectation of mid-table.
But lets say that Lambert does get sacked today, who would Lerner replace him with? Would Lerner go with an international manager? Or one with Premier League experience? I say the second option seems the more viable, so who are our candidates: Roberto Di Matteo, Steve Clarke, Andre Villas-boas, Gareth Southgate, and Steve Holloway. What about some of our former players: Dwight Yorke and Martin Laursen.
The list I’ve just put together has some decent candidates, I personally rate Di Matteo, he can organise the team well, however the style of football may be similar to Lambert’s and could become uninteresting very quickly. I don’t think Lerner would make the same mistake by hiring a rival clubs manager, so Clarke is off the list. Villas-boas is over-rated and will cost a fortune and Holloway is a mad man, both of the list as well. The only manager who remains on the list, and the manager that I believe has a similar philosophy as Lambert in terms of youth policy is Gareth Southgate. Boy, would I love to have Southgate manage Aston Villa. He is a former player, he now has lots of experience, he is young and I reckon he’d do a terrific job for Aston Villa.
But before I get carried away I do want to step back for a second, I don’t think Lambert deserves to get sacked, yet! I’d seriously give him January to buy an attacking midfielder and I seriously believe it’ll make the difference. Maybe even sign an experienced defender on loan as well? I still believe that to build and maintain success at a football club, there needs to be continuity. Believe it or not, Lambert lies 6th place in the Premier League manager tenure table. The top 3 are Wenger, Pardew and Allardyce. Lambert’s first season was tough, and this season he is fill in the spots. Injuries have hampered his success especially in defence with both Okore and Vlaar out injured, arguably our two best defenders.
Lambert will get it right, if he doesn’t he won’t be given a new contract and we’ll move on a different manager. But right now, I’m not pressing the panic button. January is just around the corner and it’s an opportunity for Lambert to get that much needed attacking midfielder. I reckon that’ll save his job in the future.
Lerner will not sack Lambert and the majority of supporters are behind Lambert.Im sorry mate but this is unrealistic very unrealistic way off the mark.There will be no Lambert sacking in January or next summer.Where do you get this information even if blind spec.This is getting silly mate…UTV
I didn’t read this anywhere I just made a post about some candidates. I’m all for Lambert, I think he’s doing a great job and injuries have hampered the teams progress.
Of course he won’t sack Lamberk, more’s the pity, as he’s doing the exact job lerner’s paying him to do. Keep us up without spending any money. The exact same remit that Mcleish had and followed successfully. The football now is just as bad and the post match excuses the same. Lambert’s bargain basement signings have been average at best with vlaar coming into form this year to coincide with Benteke going the other way. Lerner is the real problem and I wouldn’t trust him to be forward thinking like the Southampton owner and get someone in either. There are no football men on the board at villa. Majority of supporters happy to sit through this each week? Doubt it
I’m not (yet) in the camp for sacking Lambert. I do however question how we’re playing. Vlaar is a big loss, and I reckon Luna will come good, he looked unfit at the weekend rather than fit but inept. If Herd was due to start and we were to play a 5-3-2 (I thought for a moment 5-4-1 but who’d we put in our advance defence with Sylla, Westwood and KEA? Gabby on the left?) then I can see why the last minute change to include Albrighton on right wing caused us to play off kilter. Our defence not being up to scratch doesn’t explain why our only tactic seems to be hit and hope. I really don’t believe Benteke should start every match, no goal in 10 says something is very very wrong and he needs to be put on the bench. He’s either injured or is sulking to force a move. If Bent, Ireland and Given on their wages can sit on the bench like they did last season then Benteke can too. If he’s being played in the hope he realises he has to impress for the World Cup then that’s not working. If the only tactic is to give away the ball with punts from Guzan that Benteke can’t control or be bothered to do anything with then we should play Gabby (or Tonev) and Albrighton on the wings and get them to spend as much time running in with the ball as they do whacking in crosses for Kozak and Helenius in the middle. Sure, Gabby and Albrighton aren’t the best at coming back to defend but as it stands we’re not defending properly anyway so let’s at least try to score some goals. The current single tactic isn’t working. Is the manager solely responsible for tactics? Is he being incredibly stubborn and sticking to his guns? Whatever is happening, we’re relying on the defence soaking up the pressure and hoping a lucky bounce or control will allow Benteke to try not to miss the goal. It’s not working. Try to help the manager, or take some of the pressure and/or responsibility off him.
Oh and Delph and Sylla or Westwood in the middle of my 4-4-2. Delph on the left to help Luna, Sylla or Westwood on the right to help Lowton. Sylla and Westwood have both had bad matches recently but until we have someone like Gardner back we have little choice and KEA is the easiest to dispose of out of the regular 3 starters.
Admit Foxy Sylla, Luna, Westwood, Bennett well in fact 90% of Lamberts signings are shit.
90% is a bit extreme. Although, Lambert has only been at the club a little over a year now. It’s impossible to judge a player on a few months let alone one season. For example, Vlaar he’s born again as our best defender after last season’s struggles. What about Wiemann and Benteke this season – spectacular last season and this season completely disengaged.
BWS – I don’t think they are shit, it looks like the team isn’t working as a whole and not many people look confident or interested. Are any of them enjoying themselves? How much of this is down to the manager, his tactic(s) and how he engages with the players? Ireland as he’s playing now seems just the kind of player we need and yet he’s still a Villa player. I can’t help think anyway the whole squad needed to be built up again and players not performing will be replaced with better stock as everything settles. And there’s an irony that Vlaar didn’t receive a new contract when nearly all the other new players did. If we had Okore and Vlaar right now, and had neither been injured, I think we’d be doing alright. We’ve been shipping goals since Vlaar went off at half time at Saints, and we were 0-1 up at that point too, with two, arguably Lowton’s fault in Vlaar’s position, going in once he was substituted. We’re suffering from lack of experience, quality and from injuries. And none of our bloody strikers scoring.
I was in lamberts camp but no more,predictable tactics a majority of shite signings we’ve had enough fuck him off.i won’t be going again untit that arseholes ousted.get your plane ready randolf go see the baby assasign.
Would you rather have Tan?
What the fuck has tan got to do with lambert?did you read what i wrote ffs?now your bringing cardiffs owner into it. Wtf
No, you’re right Giddy. I misread comment – my apologies. Didn’t mean to work you all up.
No probs mate just couldn’t see where he came into the equation.
I just can’t see changing the manager as even remotely likely. A pay off for him and his assistants, new management team in, funding needed to allow the new manager to get some of his own players in. Way too costly given the current constraints, and I can’t get excited about any of the replacements you mention.
Add to that we are mid table at the moment.
I’m afraid we are in the middle of a long slow rebuild. The best we can hope for is that Lambert gets it right over the long term
I wrote this on the article when I saw comments comparing Lambert to McLeish, saw them again here.. so I’ll just post it here as well: This is embarrasing… people are actually comparing Lambert to McLeish!! Sure, the position’s we finished in under McLeish in his one season was similar to where we ended up last season under Lambert, but that’s the only comparison I’m getting! I remember before McLeish got sacked, we were being linked with players like Karl Henry… instead we ended up with Christian Benteke. Sure our style of play isn’t very attractive… but how many times did Manure play beautiful football under Ferguson. Again, it isn’t very attractive.. but it’s effective. I remember when Lambert came in, the talk was “slow and steady progress, that’ll do me”.. where has that gone? Well Lambert has kept his side of the bargain, there is a massive improvement, look at where we are in the table compared to this time last year.. we sit comfortably mid -table. Do ye forget that before Dortmund made any real progress, they actually got relegated.. People calling for Lambert’s head at this stage should be ashamed, for once we have had a season where we aren’t hovering above the bottom 3 and we don’t have to look over our shoulders after every game.. this is what we were crying out for in previous seasons when we scrapped with relegation.. Lambert is slowly delivering, give him time.. be patient. Miracles don’t happen overnight.
You wont be saying that when stoke and crystal palace beat us which will put us in a relegation battle there’s only 6 points between us and we are hitting our usual bad xmas like last year no improvement we got lucky
Have you successfully predicted 2 of villas results all season yet. i wonder how you can be so sure of the next two!
Because a. Its villa we usually lose round Xmas time we only won one boxing day game in years and b. Did you watch the last 2 games that is a team on a downward sprial
“how many times did Manure play beautiful football under Ferguson”
As much as I hate the b*****ds quite often, always played cavalier attacking football and Lambert and Fergy the same breath? I don’t think so.
Miracles? The bloke could turn wine into water.
IfIruledtheworld, a big thank you for giving me the biggest laugh since the season started. We can’t compare Lamberk to McLeish you think? You’ve mentioned that the league position was the same and you also recognise that the football is just as shit. You also mention that McTwatt was linked with second rate nobodies – ffs Lamberk is not only linked but has bought the useless fuckers too. But apart from all those things they’ve got in common they’re nothing alike, yeah? Oh no they both spouted boloocks excuses after every shower of shit performance. They’ve more in common than differences. Massive improvement my hogs eye – are you Paul Faulkner?
We are hovering around the bottom three mate as our results against the dead wood have been appalling. As people keep pointing out – quite rightly – that is his team and his style of play and it’s bollocks. You are right about one thing though, like most fans, I am ashamed. Ashamed of the dog shit pile our club has become under Lerner and Fatty Faulkner.
Also, which of these candidates are actually any better than Lambert? You’re all calling for OGS, who’s yet to be tested at premier league level.. another name being mentioned is AVB.. if he’s not good enough for Chelsea and even Spurs why should we even look at him? At Chelsea he couldn’t control the dressing room, at Spurs he couldn’t even use his own players he bought in.. Southgate, didn’t he get Middlesbrough relegated, and got sacked a couple of games into their championship season?
Just who’s worse? (with one obvious exception).
It’s bigger than “who’s worse?” . It’s easy to call for a new manager but who? Steve Clarke? I’ve nothing against him and think he is a half decent manager, but if it goes tits up the world and his dog would be on here saying what do you expect if you appoint someone who failed at the baggies. You wanted Lambert, so who do you want now? And when he turns out as bad you will want someone else, but it will be Lerner’s fault for appointing him. I think we need to stick with Lambert for a bit longer, but then again I know about as much as you and everyone else on here which if we are to be honest is not a whole lot.
my view exactly
If you kept up with the AVB saga, he was unhappy at Spurs and even before the Liverpool game, both him and Levy agreed he himself should leave, and most of those buys weren’t his, they didn’t sign the players he told Levy he wanted, they bought players Baldini wanted. Hell, Levy didn’t get Moutinho to replace Modric because he wouldn’t stump up a total of 500k more than what he offered for someone immensely talented. But okay…
AVB is a fantastic and intelligent manager. At the age of 36 to have managed Porto, Chelsea and Spurs is sensational, never mind from a non-playing background. He is incredibly well respected, articulate and has a very detailed grasp of tactics.
I sense a lot of our fans are too simple in the sense they like a tracksuit manager shouting, without sounding patronising, he is too intelligent for a lot of our idiot fans.
Compare that to Lam-berk mumbling the same old shite every week in his patronising dour manner after our weekly humiliation. The “we go again” garbage is humiliating.
Maybe so but how long does he last at these clubs before he’s found out. I would rather have him over lambert but I have to say spurs performance on Sunday was the worst iv ever seen a team play in the prem. Whether they were his signings or not there was more than enough quality in their side to match or beat Liverpool. They were awful not even one one at goal.
You’re right, against Pool and against City they were really poor, but their best defenders were out injured each game so they had to use pretty much a 2nd string of defenders. His only real fault was he plays a high-line no matter who’s in the back 4 and Dawson can’t play a high line. His midfield was terrible though and really shouldn’t have been against a lesser team to be fair. However Liverpool’s front line, support cast and defense/goal keeper was of absolute class. They do lack depth though which will probably make them suffer soon.
I’d give him until the end of the season – deserves that!!
It’s clear to see we are shite but I’m willing to see if Lambert attempts to fix the problem both us fan and pundits are addressing.
We need quality, experience and leadership in various areas of the pitch.
Mr Lambert, Mr Lerner – GET IT DONE!!
Never going to happen, we’ll buy Joe King (a promising 6ft 8 striker) from Grimsby.
I see this is an article written by a Lamberk Lemming for the Lemmings to justify to the rest of us that have seen the light that Lamberk knows absolutely jack shit about what he is doing either in the transfer market or in tactics.If he did then after spending £40 or so million we should not have to suffer the football we are now seeing,but a club that is moving forward.As for the names mentioned apart from OGS the Lemmings have only mentioned them knowing we all know they are more useless than the deluded egoistic moronic fool we have now that is their justification for sticking with him.Adam Jay Dee DSVILLA we are not all deluded.
I do agree about the board of directors though as what Randy needs to do though is bring in a director or football or change the board as i would not employ any of them to bloody direct traffic.As for Lamberk the sack or no new contract at end of season.
Terry forgive me mate for not listening to you and Oohah, you might as well talk to your effin self mate with some on here, they are people that cannot see no further than the end of their nose, I’m not giving fuck all to them with that useless twat in the club. We are without a doubt crap and it will go on as crap.
Same here mate,im well fucked off with the usual piss poor performances.ive got better things to spend my hard earn’t wedge on.stoke next shite.
Me and Terry saw the light a long time ago yet got slagged as being negative where in reality we could see what was happening in front of our noses
But you can see why fans were optimistic last season, no? Villa were finally, finally playing football. For once other than with Houllier had an excellent scouting group that were willing to get just as talented young players with far more potential than the crap old players fans wanted from the EPL. The 2nd half of last season was the most exciting thing Villa fans have probably been through in 10+ years. I don’t know too many who saw such a drastic change in what Villa were doing just a couple months ago.
phhh ah would ya come off it Ooh ahh .. “seen the light” you see f all like the rest of us on here but just throw out opinions to debate.
You’re not deluded Terry …. just an irritating little prick.
GUEST at least Oohah and myself could see what would happen when Lerner bowed to the fans demands.Oh by the way i like Lemmings furry little creatures but afraid not the sharpest tools in the box lol.
The irony of you questioning others intelligence is not lost on me friend.
What exactly could you both see? That perhaps Lambert wasn’t to be that much of an improvement over McLeish? Well good for you, you managed to guess right on a 50-50, i once won £500 at a casino on roulette, simple red or black choice, doesn’t make me an oracle you twit.
Whats even funnier, well i find it amusing anyway, is your choice of put down for the real supporters, the ones that turn up every home game and give their unconditional support, sing their heart out for the team no matter what, to call them Lemmings is quite laughable, you see, there’s a lot of misconception about those furry little creatures, i assume you are one of the cretins that believe they follow each other of the edges of cliffs, when in actual fact, that is completely wrong, they are solitary animals and they just migrate on mass, being driven by an overpowering biological urge, not that different from the behaviour of humans.
So the next time you want to try and put down the hardcore supporters with your pathetic Lemmings jibe, remember, you are only making yourself look like a tit. An uneducated tit.
Lerner should sack himself. We are in a false position due to lucky wins against teams like Southampton and Man City. Unless Benteke gets it going soon we will finish in a similar or possibly worse position than last year
Performances have been terrible this season the left side is as weak as ever. People are starting to ask questions more and more after every game, if we don’t strengthen in January then I can see a lot of fans turning against Lambert. The murmmers have begun, the Man Utd game was significant because we were awful, not because we lost.
I think o’leary was right, your all fickle, what the hell did you expect to happen? Us to get into Europe? We’ve improved from last season give the team a break an get into the real world, at the moment were a mid table team not title contenders, last season we were relegation fodder have faith an we’ll keep
Improving
Yer and pigs will fly.
What utter bollox.
WHAT IF LERNER DID SACK LAMBERT?
Break the bunting and have a party in the Tavern?
*out*
Bws that gets the thumbs up from me.
Cheers Giddy. Come on his (Lambert’s) time as got to be up.
Improved defensively yes, football wise……HELL NO!!!
Rode our luck on many occasion this season and it may well have just run out!!
Kirk 23% possession improving? Improving on what exactly?
Have the kids broke from school today or something?
Kirk please tell us how wev improved? Defensively yes fair enough. But going forward wev gone backwards, midfield has to be the worse in the prem and worst iv ever seen at vp and believe me wev had some shite midfield over the years. We play boring negative football just as bad if not worse than under mcleish. Our forwards couldn’t score in a brothel. If we don’t get something in the next 3 games then we could easily be back in relegation trouble.
These are the poor posts one would expect. We haven’t improved, Lambert became a wuss. Yes we’ve scored a couple more, conceded a couple less and have a couple more points, but that’s what happens when you go from the style of play Lambert made McLeish look like a right tool on his last game at Norwich, to playing a style McLeish would be secretly proud of but would in the media claim this isn’t a McLeish team. Lambert last season went out in every game believing this young team of players could win any game, out play teams and gave the fans even in a relegation scrap a real showing of what Villa fans wanted and that we’d improve ON THAT. However we didn’t IMPROVE on that, it changed, 100% backwards to a pathetic, defensive, go out to not lose, only try when we get scored on garbage we see now. And you can’t do that when he himself spent over 20m this past summer on players with more technical ability than this kick and rush piss shit we suffer now. No one on here has claimed (and yes that is NO ONE) has claimed we should be title contenders or even in Europe yet, most were happy with a mid-table finish, but we can’t be playing this way, it shows no improvement, a lack of desire from the garbage Manager Villa have and the players don’t even seem to really care anymore because what fun are they seriously having? These players were fortunate to be “blessed” with footballing talent we as fans could only wish we had, and do something they love and have fun at, and they don’t look entertained, they look fucking bored out of their mind. He’s lost it, you don’t even see the players trusting him anymore, bar Delph and Gabby who are used too and really play well in said boring style.
Now Badger that’s what you call a really good post.
Good stuff Andrew.
Home form absolutely shite not been addressed he’s ran out of idea’s that’s if he fucking had any.patient last season ran out of patience now.
If Lerner did sack Lambert now – we would get a sub par replacement, lose millions in settlement fees (out of transfer funds), and probably end up relegated.
Who’s to blame then? The sacked manager who the supporters wanted, the owner who appeased the fans, or the supports themselves for their knee jerk reaction?
Appeased the fans by appointing the worst manager in our history and then sacking him?
A knee jerk reaction to Lambert? The worst home record in all 4 football leagues,that’s hardly knee jerk if anything a well over due one
Great, I will see you in the Championship then.
For me, I still remember what the club looked like with the revolving door of managers and it is exactly what needs to stop. The club needs stability more than anything else. If that means I have to support the club through these rough patches so be it. I’m no blind believer, but I do know the alternatives are worse.
But the alternatives don’t have to be worse. It’s clear that a lot of people on here are only mentioning the poor EPL-based management and other than AVB, none that are free are going to be good enough, and that’s clear and probably what a lot of fans are afraid of. But it’s really not that hard to get out of the thinking we need an EPL experienced manager. Lets look, lets really, really look at the manager’s in the EPL. French, Spanish, Portuguese, Chilean (I believe Pellegrini’s from Chile anyways), Spanish, English, was Portuguese, Scottish, Argentine, Denmark. These are the ten nationalities of the manager’s ahead of us right now. 1 is English, 1 is Scottish. That’s it… That is bloody it.
We don’t need some English based Manager because there’s few if any that are actually good. Pardew’s finally proving himself but that’s about as far as it’s gone right now for them. Martinez is really the only non-English/Scottish manager with a host of England football experience bar Mourinho and he’s done well so it’s not something that’s actually needed. We can go to a host of other Countries and find better.
I couldn’t agree with you more about a non-British manager. Before Lambert’s appointment I was arguing that same point. I would have loved to have seen the club appoint someone from outside the EPL; someone with new ideas, scouting, and experience. Personally, and to my surprise, Lambert has fulfilled most of those things for me though.
Nevertheless, I really don’t think the club could appoint a better manager right now given our financial restraints, personnel, and the boards managerial history. Plus given Villa is built without a DOF, asking for a new manager really isn’t going to solve Villa’s problems, only make things worse. Love him, hate him – it’s up to you, but stability for Aston Villa is they only way I see the club actually improving.
Southgate said that mboro were a bigger club than villa the stinking twat then got boro relegated ,for all that he got a cushy number at england who are also shite. BRING BACK THE LITTLE VILLAIN WOOO.
Had we lost at Southampton and against City (which we should have done) we would be right down the bottom, there would huge pressure on Lambert, esp given the fact we have been playing shit too.
If results dont go our way over xmas, it wouldnt suprise me if he was gone in the New Year. Personally, I dont think he is doing a great job at all. There were signs last season that he might take us forward, I have seen nothing this season to suggest any progress.
Problem is no football brain on the board what chance have we got of getting a decent replacement, or sacking PL if the time is rightâĤ. We are crying out for a Director of Football or just someone with some bloody direction and a footballing brain, instead we rely on an absent owner, a CEO with no experience and a manager who likes to shop in PoundlandâĤ..We are just so inexperienced both ON and OFF the pitch !!!
i have to say I don’t believe in chopping and changing managers and as someone said we were told ‘slow steady progress’ which is what we have.
I don’t really criticize the signings either, all have been brought for under 10mil, the vast majority have been around the 2 mil mark. I couldn’t really see anyone bringing in a virtually complete new squad with the money we’ve spent and do any better really, our current midfield cost about 7/8 mil for 3/4 players! kozack and benteke the most expensive but both under 10 mil and benteke has already doubled his transfer fee.
and I totally understand the ‘young and hungry’ and the ‘slow steady progress’ part too, it brave and refreshing but with the best will in the world those type of players you can have 3/4 even 5 in any one team at a time supported by the other more experienced players to bring them on not having a whole squad of players who have less than a seasons premier experience, there’s no balance and it shows.
my other concern is the football, it is pretty poor this season, I wont go over it all because its been done to death and its clear to see and as has been said those games we won(man city and Southampton)we were lucky and I could see us slipping back into the relegation battle again very quickly, I can definitely see this more than I see us making progress.
then there’s lamberts tactics and his stubbornness, quite often I have very little idea of what the hell we are supposed to be doing and the formation we are trying to play and the predictability of our attack is woeful, yet we keep doing the same thing over and over and over.
I believe lambert and learner need to get together and admit that we need a few experienced players otherwise the young decent players we have will never blossom in the shade of being beaten and playing badly on a regular basis, they will just loose confidence and have it compounded week in week out.
Progress – development towards an improved or more advanced condition.
And that defines what’s happening at VP under Lambert? I think not.
1 win in ever 4 games at home, lowest scorers in the football league, give me regression over that type of progress.
That’s a great post NM and just about sums things up for me.
I’ve been saying for ages that we need some experience to steady the ship, when things go awry.
The fact that gabby (as much as I love him) is seen as the old hand says it all.
We lack leadership and quality all over the pitch.
It’s been blindingly ovbious, but it seems to be glossed over, when we’re getting results, no matter how lucky we are.
If Lambert isn’t ramming this point down Lerner’s throat, you have to be concerned for how we’re going to do in the rest of the season.
I posted our next three fixtures in my thoughts article for very good reason.
I really see us getting very few points from those games and whilst trying not to be disrespecful against the relevant clubs, this is absolutely not how things should be.
We have serious problems and things need addressing in the window.
Trouble is, I don’t believe they will be.
As for Gareth Southgate being on that list of possibles, I can’t think of a worse choice.
Totally shite manager, imo.
Oh and I nearly forgot.
There is no way Lambert is getting sacked anyway.
Lerner is probably crapping it at the thought of having to pay him off.
Sir Oohah and Mr Bill Pearson my very good friends as i have said in one of my comments on this the post was written by a Lerner Lamberk Lemming to try and justify why Lamberk should keep his job.Steady progress being made my arse a fuckin snail pace is quicker and if we suffer more defeats over the christmas period same as last year then there will be no better case for sacking Lamberk he as had £40 odd million to spend since he took over and in my opinion as just wasted it to try and prove a point.I would say lose to Stoke and that should be his last game in charge.He will never improve the team by wasting money on the type of players he brings in and he will never change his tactics either does not know how to or is so deluded and rapped up in his own ego.
Agree sir terry problem is who replaces him. I can’t think of anyone better than lamberk that would consider us. Any decent manager would not want Aston villa on their cv no money to spend and fuck all ambition. It’s pointless
Not really. Lerner’s spent on average 20m a summer pretty much no matter who we get other than before Houllier came, and he spent over that in January. Villa have money, we just don’t have anyone to spend it correctly and Lerner probably has the ambition, but again, the only two manager’s he’s really chosen were Houllier who was ambitious and a large group of a large fan base’s choice.
I also forgot.
If we got Holloway in, at least we’d have a laugh at his comments, as opposed to the utter shite Lambert comes out with.
And there’s just as much chance, if not more, that we’d go for it at home.
My worst nightmare is one where we get relegated because we don’t go for it at home.
Contrary to where Lambert says we do go for it, I simply don’t believe it.
And if we genuinely do, we’re in more trouble than I thought.
That’s the best part, the bottom part and so correct it’s not funny:. “My worst nightmare is one where we get relegated because we donât go for it at home.” We all know we don’t go for it at home, I’d take absolutely nothing Lambert says as truth but what he claims is to get the fans from booing him, as he can’t handle it, like McLeish couldn’t. But if we’re gonna get relegated, which we won’t, but if Villa ever does. You wanna see a team like last season go down fighting, passing, attacking, score more than the other team. Clearly we want balance but Lambert can’t balance a team, so we need to attack more. I believe I read that some guy on twitter posted Benteke needs more service and can’t score from none, and Benteke himself retweeted that himself. Not sure if it’s true but it wouldn’t surprise me. It is odd that Kozak can do it and Benteke can’t but it’s become sad. At least I’ve read that we’re in for a good midfielder. Believe I read someone claim it was James Nursery who said Villa are in for a quality midfielder, which is 100% what we need. Also read Okore tweeted that he could be back earlier than expected which would be a huge relief. I can see Okore being a much younger Vlaar, where he’ll give a lot of confidence to either Clark or Baker when they play with Vlaar and our defense will finally have a leader when Vlaar’s injured.
I’d rejoice for sure, though I wouldn’t trust Lerner to appoint a decent manager to save his life. Said it umpteen times, we need a young continental manager with a grasp of modern tactics and passing mentality.
I find it totally embarrassing that the Lamberk sheep bring up Dortmund, we are nothing like them, how many times! They went through tough times, but Klopp is world class. Klopp and the Dortmund board are the polar opposite to Lamberk and Lerner.
AVB would be great for us, he is too ambitious for our board though. Sigh, we’re stuck with useless British manager plodders and the worst one of all at that in Lamberk.
That’s fine but Klopp has only been visible to most of us since being with Dortmund. His previous club got relegated. Lots of Villa fans wanted Lambert but now want him out. So who is the up and coming continental manager that we need? I don’t know him. But if Lerner appoints one and it goes pear shaped I don’t lose anything. If only it was all that easy. Take a look at the last dozen Villa managers and how many do you rate? Why is the next manager always going to be the answer. Hands up who wanted Lambert?
That’s the thing for me, DSVilla.
I wanted Lambert, because I at least thought he’d play an attacking team that had a bit of swagger and poise about it.
Never for one minute did I think he’d take the same pragmatic approach as the ginger twat., even though he insists he doesn’t.
He’s either bottled it re his principles in how he thinks the game should be played, or he’s fallen for the same shit that many Villa fans have, in that we’re being told this is all we can expect for a club of our standing.
All I know is I’d rather lose at home having seriously taken it to the opposition, than what I’ve witnessed when I’ve taken my grandkids.
Look at our home record this season, mate.
It’s simply disgraceful.
Something tells me is that Lerner wasn’t going to take another relegation battle, and with yet another 20m+ spent this summer, Villa shouldn’t be, and he had but little choice in his own mind but to have Villa become all about defending because he’s clueless on how to get a team of more than good enough technical players that he bought to play true football, compared to kick and run that these new players are not used too.
Badger I’m really confused. by your stance on Lambert, come on you pro or anti? or happy with splinters up your arse from sitting on that fence?
Bws, I’m pro in that I don’t see who we’ll get who’s better.
And he did seem to have a philosphy of decent footy at Norwich.
But I’m anti, because he is playing shit tactics, especially at home.
How can I take the grandkids down the Villa and tel them how great we are, when we lose most games?l
Can’t argue with that Badger. That’s fair comment.
I’m fully aware Klopp was relegated, so was Martinez. My point is they have a clear football philosophy and intelligence, Lamberk does not have this.
We’ve been crying out for a continental manager, we should have appointed one to work under Houllier and moved him to board level like he wanted. For a start we would have had Yohan Cabaye, who is 10 x better than every single midfielder signed by your beloved Lamberk.
Lerner won’t do it, but we’re crying out for someone like Thomas Tuchel, AVB or Murat Yakin. There’s 3 excellent and intelligent managers right there and I can name more. Lamberk is shit, always has been, always will be. He can’t even speak properly without mumbling FFS, the guy is a joke and I’m embarrassed he represents our once great club.
beloved Lambert? As I have said on here many times I wasn’t calling for Lambert to be appointed. When he was I was happy enough as I felt it was a step up, and Lambert had achieved promotions on the bounce – no small feat. Yes Cabaye is way better than what we have. What makes you so certain that the managers you name would be a success a) in the Premiership and b) at Villa. Given that Martinez turned us down what makes you think that any of those would take the job anyway? AVB?? Successful in a two team league with the language advantage to Brazilian footballers that we don’t have. Ask the Spurs fans what they think of his tactical nous and their style of football under him.
You also seem to feel that relegation is no issue as long as you like the manager/his style/intelligence/philosophy. Really? Houllier may have taken us down but for the last three games after his heart problem. Would you have been singing his praises then? I think Houllier may well have turned out pretty well if he had not been ill, but whether he would have been given time is a different matter.
I wish we had a better manager and better players, but I have difficulty believing we will get either if Lambert goes.
We did end 9th under Houllier.
It is pretty hard to figure out who Lerner will appoint, I just hope he doesn’t listen to the fans this time. He needs to pick his own Manager. Houllier was his choice, a brilliant one at that. He got his yes man to sell off the high earner squad and then picked the fans choice at the game and it was a terrible one.
ANDREW mate lets hope and prey Lerner will not put up with another relegation battle and does the right thing and sacks the clueless useless twat before he as to give him yet more money to wast in January in the hope of keeping us up by the skin of our teeth yet again.
Sadly I do think that Lerner will give him until the end of the season, simply because if he keeps us around 10th-12th, that’s a fair bit of money Lerner earns and it’s where I think most expect Villa to be at and I think even under Lambert, we will. Then I do believe Lambert will probably go, and either a young continental manager will come in, or Lerner will have that one last go, bigger named manager at a chance for glory.
As long as the next manager is non-British, that’s progress at least. I’m resigned to Lamberk being here to the end of this season, but hopefully he’ll be gone by the summer but I doubt it. A man of honour would have walked after last years humiliation. Look at Zola, top guy, could see it wasn’t working at Watford and walked away with dignity. Lamberk is clinging on and dragging our name through the mud, if he had any decency he’d walked in humilation of the job he’s done at VP
Actually I think if the fans turn on Lambert he will walk out without waiting to be sacked. Just a feeling as he doesn’t seem to react well to criticism. I think he is the sort to say if you don’t want me then I’m off.
It’s much like McLeish though, Villa are going to be the biggest club they work at, and don’t wanna think they can’t do it and sadly probably think he’s actually doing a good job.
Sadly we’re not gonna get Yakin as both Spurs and Lazio have both contacted him, his agent and Basel already. I don’t think AVB’s gonna wanna manage in the EPL anymore. Does seem hard to get a big club with the right backing, AVB’s brilliant, though tactically is very questionable and naive that he doesn’t change things when players get injured and the back up aren’t the same types, but he wasn’t backed by Levy or Abromovic and didn’t go for any of the players he asked for, Levy went with Baldini and Abromovic went with himself so I wouldn’t trust going to another club either if I was AVB in the EPL.
Tuchel would be brilliant, Schmidt as well, I wanna see Gillot though. He’s 53 but he’s done really well at Bordeaux and for the next 10 years could do really well at Villa. Luzon looks a decent manager at Standard, or we could really get serious and look at Bielsa, though a dream, a wonderful one at that. Then if we still look older, Favre would also be brilliant. So there’s Manager’s out there, young, great football, exciting and capable or older, brilliant, considered football genius’s that we could get. Would Favre leave Monchengladbach for us, I don’t know.