We all know how it is. We can go into a cauldron that is Fenerbache’s ground and dig out a win.
And then we can lose in the third round to Stevenage as recently as the 22-23 season.
You just cant trust the Villa and as much as I think we’re probably the second best team in the Premier league at the moment, you can probably understand why I take nothing for granted. I’m sure I’m not alone in that sort of thinking.
That said, apart from the occasional blip (Everton), I think we’re hopefully over these sort of results under Emery.
Squad news and we know what it is. It’s been a major subject for discussion.
Ollie Watkins will be assessed after going off with what looked like a very slight twinge in a hamstring. The way he walked off, he didn’t look anything like crocked to me, but it matters not and is actually very convenient. Let’s face it, I’m sure we would all prefer to see (Kevin) Tammy Abraham make his second debut for us, while Ollie takes a much needed rest. I’m fairly confident Unai is itching to see him too.
And then of course, we have Douglas Luiz back too. I’m especially intrigued to see how he gets on for us. Will he hit the heights of when we were forced to let him go, or is he a busted flush? All I know is, if anyone can sort him out, it’s Unai.
Kamara, McGinn, Tielemans, Garcia and Alysson are all ruled out. Ross Barkley should be available and is a useful squad player who’s done very little wrong when he’s actually played. It’s just a shame that he’s not as availble as much as he’s unavailable. We need to get rid at the end of the seaon, as he’s effectively costing us twice his wages, at least.
Brentford then. I’ve (no disrepect meant) always looked at them as a Meh club. It’s not nice of me, but that’s how it is. On a par with Bournemouth, for example.
But that is incredibly disrespectful of me, because they’re established in the Prem now and actually sit in 8th, which I didn’t expect when I looked at the table.
Fabio Carvalho is out for the rest of the season. Antoni Milambo and Joshua Dasilva are injured as well. The good news is Mikkel Damsgaard and Kristoffer Ajer should be available. As per usual, I don’t really care.
Prediction time and as hinted, I’m looking at the win. It won’t be easy, as in the headline. These sorts of games rarely are. But I do have a lot of faith in the team now. The Salzburg game summed it all up for me. We were horrendous for much of that game and then all of a sudden just clicked and turned it into a different game, where we easily dominated.
That stunk of complacency to me and as long as we don’t let that creep in, (which I don’t think we will in Prem games) I’m going to say 2-1 to the Villa. It might even be 2-0, but let’s not be too greedy eh? It’s not becoming of fans of a classy club such as ours.
UTV!
What a load of rubbish and var didn’t bother checking their goal for offside in the build up as it looked offside to me. I knew villa would blow it again Brentford not lost 3 in a row for several years villa not lost at home in consecutive games for few years.
And injuries stacking up there was no hope.
The establishment has succeeded in putting villa down, i wonder how much these teams have received for knocking our players out of the games because that’s what it looks like to me they’ve been deliberately targeted our main strength in midfield.
And commentator continuously on about man u and villa title challenge gone
I’m fuming with premier league football its a waste of time watching all fixed
Gutted and robbed.
This VAR is an absolute disgrace,that goal would never have been disallowed at the Emirates,the etihad,old Trafford or anfield..they probly wouldn’t have even looked at it it again or just turned a blind eye if they had looked at it! They just seem to make the rules up as they go along, VAR is only checked for offsides,goals & red cards..ive never heard of a VAR check for possible ball going out of play.. Its an absolute farce..the game is corrupt!
Absolutely pathetic.
Really hoping across all forums, podcasts, and any form of analyses, that I do not hear this load of rubbish about a “low block.”
Every single Premiership side, including us, transitions into a “low block” style at some point in a football match – like what does it even mean, defending? It’s just a new buzz word that is being rinsed and rinsed to excuse the fact that we are unable to break down a side that is well organised.
As we all know, the title is gone, and sorry to dish out a huge reality check across the site, but please do not be shocked if Man United, Liverpool and Chelsea all are on par with us in the next two months, and I’m sure MU surpassing us would be a stinger on this site, but today has been a huge reality check.
I do not lack respect for any Premiership team, but in the best league in the world, two home games against Everton and Brentford should be a relief, and we’ve blown them both. Don’t even get me started in their keeper, Martinez would have been sent off if he performed the antics that their goalkeeper did. I did not see any of the goals (and disallowed goals) today as I was having my cider, but apparently it did go out.
Bournemouth away next week – do not get your hopes up. UTV
The more I hear peoples opinions about the disallowed goal, the angrier I feel about it. Redknapp and the rest of the commentary suggesting Cash was acting after having studs pushed into his balls was another thing that pissed me off. And let’s not forget the fact Real Madrid are looking at Emery according to Sky.
The fact is they want us to fail. We are doing nothing for the TV ratings when pushing Chelsea, Pool, Manure and Spurs down the pecking order.
Thankfully for Sky the SCR and other regulations will eventually restore the Sky 6 back to its glory.
Sick as a fucking dog how did we manage to lose that
Can see us blowing that mammoth lead and end up 6 th it’s villa all over
If we blow champions league again there will be no coming back as we will have to sell our best players yet again fuckin so pissed off with that today
i cant see us blowing that lead as well little 8..if we had a fully fit squad i wouldn’t be so worried but i fear the worst with 3 big players out injured.. Unless unai pulls something out 2mora on the final day of the window.. We gotta replace guessand surely.. Even though he was rubbish
Supporting Villa comes with a larger number of bizarre in-game happenings that you will get with any other club in England. My favourite is still the Filbert St match where nobody in the crowd knew the right score at the final whistle, but today’s chalk-off is in the top 10. The ball just goes out of play in the corner at the North stand end, no flag no whistle. So much for a clear and obvious error: it was neither. Villa pass the ball in a sweeping move to the Holte End where Tammy bags it at least half a minute later.
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I don’t know what choices Emery had but Douglas Luis wasn’t effective and Tammy is not on the same page as the attacking assistance – as you would expect. We have learned this season to shoot accurately from distance – so how come today Rogers and Buendia were not planted 20 yards from goal? Then Digne, who can put a cross exactly where it is needed, is left out for Maatsen who fires it in too fast.
And why oh why Onana on the bench and Elliot on? I’d rather see Barkley over Elliot. I’d rather see the young lad that scored on Thursday than Elliot. He didn’t have as good a game as people suggest. I’m not sure why such an impressively average player is spoken about so much by sky, talksport and the rest of the pundit world. Today im so close to leaving football for the rest of the season. I rushed home today with the kids and Mrs to make it back and watch that crap. Never again. Cross with myself for that one
Bottom line:
No Watkins, Kamara, Tielsman, McGinn or Onana.
Big losses and through the Premier League being corrupt as xxxx, we lost.
Faceless administrators in positions of extreme power have ruined the game. The only option, and fans of all clubs agree, is to bin VAR. We should boycott every single game so the stadiums across the UK are empty week after week until they get the message and it makes headlines all over the world.
Going all the way back to the debatable Bailey incident is inexcusable.
Guys, there’s no point shouting foul – nobody’s listening.
The establishment in general do not want any team upsetting the status quo and will use any method to destabilise any team having the brass neck to challenge it.
Having said all that – face facts – we lost because on the day we weren’t good enough to win and Emery is right, with injuries, we don’t have the squad or (allowable) finances to challenge the protected elite.
With the injuries to our mid field engine which is the foundation of our success, I’m sad to say that our results will drop off. Our priority is to try and qualify for Europe again – for whichever competition.
A 4 minute VAR check? 42 seconds AFTER we scored? I didn’t watch the second half and thank God, because if that’s what happened, I may well have lost my shit and upset the family if I had seen it. It’s so obvious that we’re bring screwed, just like last season at Old Trafford. So painfully obvious. The fact we played poorly – just like at Old Trafford – is totally irrelevant. They’re taking away perfectly good goals when it matters most. And that, my friends, is why Unai may well say “f*** this” if the Prima Donna club come calling.
On a separate note, I hear there is a long awaited sequel to Passenger 57 in the pipeline with none other than Jaden Sancho cast in the lead role. There won’t be much Wesley Snipes style action; Sancho sleeps all the way through it and the bad guys win.
And the story continues with Man City dropping two points and we get out of jail with a comeback from Spurs. Hitch is right, in this world you must make your own bed. Another weekend gone and we get away with losing ( just as we did with Everton). So we are still very much involved in the title race and elsewhere. Enjoy it lads and forget the conspiracy theories. Enjoy the moment.
We’re not in the title race. There are 3 monsters, aided by the establishment, slowly creeping up behind us. I’m not saying look behind but we’re not in the title race. We never were. A third place finish, with that squad, Monchi’s stinking summer window, and the injuries, would be nothing short of miraculous. 4th would be magnificent. 5th with CL qualification a successful season. They have to regroup, not feel sorry for themselves, and keep going. But when the powers are against you…
Carragher accusing Matty of feigning injury! You absolute f***tard!!!
Carragher is a moronic idiot – that’s a personal opinion!
Their player deliberately pushed his foot back into Cash’s midriff – that’s violent conduct – end off.
Carragher and his sycophantic mates all worshiping the Sky six – it makes me sick,
All Carragher can do is spit at people. Say no more, we know the real soul of this individual.
I don’t know why they went back to Bailey and saying ball was over the line why not go back to the kick off and disallow the goal in fact just give any teams the 3 points save us the trouble.
And why was Bailey on the floor anyway was he fouled?
Definitely wouldn’t surprise me to see emery leave as can’t get passed the glass ceiling.
I blame doug Ellis for not investing when villa up in 2nd when premier league started and be in on the start.
It’s hopeless situation now,have to go all out to win europa
Most annoying thing now is the crowing from the sky lovers
Fortress villa in ruins Newcastle result wasted
The VAR intervention was, without doubt, unfair.
It’s the longest period VAR have ever gone back to find a reason to disallow a goal. The important words there are ‘to find a reason’.
Once again VAR decided to re-referee a game and it was a long move that eventually resulted in the game.
Eventually VAR will spend unlimited minutes looking at every possibility in trying to find a reason to disallow every goal scored and suck the life out of the game.
It wasn’t clear and obvious, the assistant ref didn’t flag and the ref was close enough to make a decision. Complete and utter nonsense.
As Danny Murphy said – was it good for the game – probably not.
The VAR monster they have forced upon us is getting more and more involved and getting to the point where the referee doesn’t have a role to play. I wouldn’t be shocked if in 5 – 10 years time they are changing score lines after the game because something was missed during the 90 minutes.
https://x.com/villaviews_/status/2018037649865310318?s=46
Tweets like this, for me.
Please don’t be indoctrinated into this false narrative that there needs to be “balance”. That is pushed by people who believe we have no right to be up there and want the top teams at the top, and the propaganda has clearly saw through Villa fans too.
If there needs to be balance, we will never win a trophy. You have to win every game in a cup to win the competition, so by that logic we have to have balance and win / lose, meaning we can’t win a domestic cup – so just utter propaganda rubbish, again.
Onana suffering muscle fatigue.
As much as I quite like him, I think he needs to go.
Apparently he didn’t feel fully fit.
Mr glass indeed. Waste of time and another effectively being paid double.
Also Badger, he is delusional in saying his goal is to play for an elite team! I’m sure Emery wasn’t impressed by that. I agree with you that he’s in the treatment room more than on the pitch. As good as he is when at his best, he’s too unreliable to prove a successful signing.
I’d agree. Get rid. Bad interview. Totally physically unreliable. Sell him to Real Madrid for £92m. Oh wait…
P1ssed off this morning. Just hope other sides don’t smell blood…
Alfie – ‘Overperformed’? So our points tally and table position is a lie? Stinks doesn’t it.
So that’s us then – obviously just lucky because we’ve over performed in Europe and the EPL for three consecutive seasons!
Give me a break – absolute nonsense based on loads of dodgy stats,
Villa fans falling for the propaganda, doesn’t surprise me as everybody is involved in conveying it across the English footballing pyramid.
But he does do the jazz hands thing so well; the Holte End love that. And he’s so good at cheering on the boys as they walk through the tunnel after putting in a shift while he nursed his fatigued muscles. And don’t forget when he shoves his teammates towards the Holte End to milk the applause when they do something good in a match. These are all clear signs that we have an elite player on the books and Villa mustn’t lose that! We’re so lucky to have him!
Bum Bum I don’t think you thought this, but just in case you think I was endorsing the Tweet, I wasn’t at all – I disagree completely.
If you already knew, then, yes it is just Villa fans falling for the deliberate elite propaganda that we do not have a right to be up there, when our points tally clearly states that we do.
Oh no, I was agreeing with you! 😃
The MOTD analysis produced one fact – that Brentford only had to crowd two players, Buendia and Rogers because nobody else that Villa had left could shoot straight from 20 yards. Brentford were lucky that none of the shots fired into their bodies deflected past the keeper, nor to the feet of Abraham. Our goals from distance have been a feature this term but 3 of the scorers, Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn were absent injured. Sancho, Elliott and Douglas Luis haven’t mastered the long range shot.
As expected Villa had a lot of corners – here is where the wrong CB was used. Mings and Torres each have a goal conceding gaffe in them when defending. Torres duly made his for the only goal. But once Brentford were down to 10 Torres superior passing skills were not needed, but Mings superior heading ability was. Maatsen’s strength is his pace but he is only average in lofting a cross from the wing, Digne is better so the FB swap might have been good.
Nice summary to be honsest. When it came to utilising Maatsen on that left side, we literally played the same ball every single time and it was painful. Brentford had two players blocking each corner of the box and it meant that we could only go round the outside instead of threading in a killer pass.
As I have pointed out for a while now, our goals often come from teams switching off and being punished – when we play against a well organised opposition that do not lose shape, we never even score against them.
Well this doesn’t stop my anger, it now appears the controversy of VAR is now national news, why the hell is the FA not stepping in? Aston Villa is the most successful football team that all the major clubs dislike, Referees, are among the worst offenders of giving decisions that become suspect in most games yet get away with their mistakes, The FA condone all that’s going on in the game yet turns it’s back on the goings on by officials. They could lose us a manager over all what’s gone on. It’s time we show our discontent of the way we are treated.
I absolutely agree. But show our discontent by doing what? It really is a toughie because the only way we can show our anger is by leaving the league, and then we’ll definitely lose our manager…
Alfie. In my time I can remember posters displayed and even demonstration with placards outside ground, basically show strength as into days world you have TV we didn’t, I cannot understand how the likes of the big so-called six get tv time, you take the way yesterday’s match was presented before kick off in tv, we was not spoken about till kick off, it was all Man shit and Tottenham plus how many points between Man City, it went on and on about them not us. If fans put pen to paper to the right people things might change, or not. But at least it gets people noticed. By the way I was one that did demonstrate outside the old part of the ticket office.
You’re not wrong, Bill. The Sky 6 bias is nauseating. Papers. Radio. TV. It’s always the same.