Villa 0 – Swansea 3: A shambles. What the hell has happened to us?

It’s well and truly “wheels have fallen off” now, isn’t it?

I listened to the first half on WM while driving home and then the second half on AVTV.
AVTV weren’t so critical, as you’d expect, but WM were pretty scathing and basically said we were awful.
The Mail and various other online articles back this up.

Suffice to say, it wasn’t good.

We made six changes and I doubt anyone would really have argued much against them before the game.
Yes, some players were played out of position, but I think this was more about Dean Smith getting a look at who could step up.
And it proved disappointing all round, from what I heard. Indeed, the only player who carried himself well was John McGinn, who sounded like the only player that cared.

The most disappointing part for me (apart from Kalinic seemingly dropping a clanger so early) was Callum O’Hare.
I’ve wanted to see him get a chance, but WM didn’t pull any punches in hinting that he was a boy playing a man’s game, with the way he was muscled off the ball so easily.
The boos from the fans when he was substituted suggest he should have stayed on, but I suspect the reality is that he was probably having a shocker. Certainly, from what I was hearing, either he didn’t have a clue what the manager expected of him or Smith simply wasn’t getting his message across properly.
Either way, I’d suggest it was the better solution to hook him rather than let him have a whole game being ineffective.

Also disappointing is the fact that absolutely no one stepped up.
Hogan missed chances and Lansbury tried, but it was all huff and puff with absolutely no quality to be found in the side.

After a great start under Dean Smith, we’ve moved onto a very, very poor run of results and any hopes of promotion seem to be going out of the window rapidly.
If Abraham does actually go, you have to wonder where the goals will come from, as I hinted recently.

I suspect this will be a massive eye-opener for the manager and given that I really don’t think he’ll have much money to spend in this window, I also suspect he’ll be very worried.

Interesting, albeit concerning times.
It seems the squad needs quite a bit of a overhaul, but Smith won’t be able to do much.

We all knew that the “feelgood” factor was too good to last, didn’t we?

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    Bill Pearson January 6, 2019 at 5:20 pm .

    Pat 57, I’m short on time and the way it’s going will never see it. Been looking around the sites and fans are pissed off already, some Pat 57 are throwing the towel in ready, I’m not that bad yet but Soon will be if we don’t improve .

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      villaawayindiv3 January 6, 2019 at 7:16 pm .

      I have said before that I think long term is the way to go…..this shambles of a team (club) is nowhere near any good to be in Prem.
      Also said that we don’t need prima Donna class players – yet- just some that can do basics like put a shift in and pass/control a ball….like the majority of players we face every match.
      Get the team/teams playing attractive footie and we will all at least be a bit happier….then when we can function properly game ge out start building a better team and so on….I know it’s a pipe dream and all clubs would do it if it’s that simple but we need to get a basic formula before we attempt anything like playing in the Prem.

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    Benno January 6, 2019 at 8:09 pm .

    I don’t think there is any need to hit the panic button just yet! Smith knows we need to recruit this month, and if anything the performance yesterday may push him to buy even more.

    There were definitely some poor performances yesterday, and some players did not do themselves any favours. El Ghazi and Adomah were both very poor, and losing Abraham is going to be a major blow if Kodjia and Hogan play like they did yesterday.

    I thought Cal O’Hare did okay for his first game. he is a little livewire like Grealish. What he might need is a spell out on loan, like when Grealish went to Notts County, just to help him build up his physicality. He will be some player though.

    I think we really need to sign 2 quality full backs and another central midfielder. Bjarnason, Whelan and Jedinak are all just too slow for this league. Whoever decided to buy McGinn should be given the job of finding the midfielder!

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    Sidforever January 6, 2019 at 8:57 pm .

    Purslow has already stated on record being promoted this season is not the be all and end all for our season. It is time to start planning for next year in the Championship, with a more youthful set up.

    I would look to play Davis up top with either Kodjia or Hogan. As Hogan cannot play up front on his own and us either 3rd choice or sell him. Davis is excellent at holding the ball up and bringing others into play. Hepburn-Murphy needs to go on loan and would be 3rd choice next year.

    With the midfield, when fit Grealish and McGinn in the middle. Lansbury needs to step up or be shipped out ( believe he is on mega money and would have to be paid off to leave). I’d give Adomah a one year extension and use next season to bring Green back into the fold. Hourihane is look to sell. The rest can go at the end of the season. There is a chance of O’Hare, Doyle-Hayes to go on loan.

    Defence Chester, Bree and Elphick are the only defenders worth keeping.

    Goalkeepers Kalinic and Steer.

    Thereafter, sell the rest or release at end of contracts this year.

    Purslow has also indicated that FFP is not an issue. It’s time to shift on the big contracts and get some young up and coming players at Villa. A site placed the following salaries for these players we need to sell/ not renew or cancel contracts.

    Mark Bunn £17,500
    Gary Gardner £20,000
    Tommy Elphick £25,000
    Birkir Bjarnason £25,000
    Ritchie De Laet £25,000
    Albert Adomah £25,000
    Alan Hutton £30,000 likely £15,000
    Conor Hourihane £30,000
    Jonathan Kodjia £35,000
    Neil Taylor £30,000
    Scott Hogan £35,000
    Henri Lansbury £40,000
    Mile Jedinak £50,000
    Micah Richards £50,000
    Ross McCormack £40,000

    This may well be £477,500 per week, which equates nearly to £25m per year.

    No more loans for players who do not add significant value . Rather than paying Bolasie £70,000 and El Ghazi £23,000 and neither are first names on the sheet. That’s a further £93,000 per week and nearly £5m. Total wages with above £30m. Moreira is £2k per week.

    Next two loans who have worked well for us are Tuanzebe £5,000 per week and Abrahams £50,000 per week. £55,000 per week and best part of £3m. Grand total £33m.

    It just amazes me the waste in salary we carry when other teams such as Cardiff, Fulham (before Premier promotion), Norwich and Leeds do not have this level of resource and punch way above weight.

    I believe Dean Smith will offer us consistency of manager to stop each new manager chopping and changing players and style of play. This consistency will allow a true team, who are better than the sum of the parts to be developed.

    I hope these are the steps we take to move forward.

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    DSVilla January 6, 2019 at 9:30 pm .

    Grealish coming back will make all the difference. I guess Abraham is off and that’s a shame but he isn’t our player so that’s just the way it is. I still think January will be interesting and hopefully positive. It’s bit too early t throw in the towel. Loads of good points from Sidforever btw.

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    Pat 57 January 7, 2019 at 7:43 am .

    I like this linking us with Maupay from Brentford –

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-prepare-transfer-bid-15638532

    He’s a player that Smith knows well and so he will know exactly how he’ll fit into the team, plus he’s only 22 and already scored 15 goals this season.

    Let’s hope.

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      Hitchens60 January 7, 2019 at 2:58 pm .

      Sorry Pat – don’t believe it.

      A. We don’t have the cash
      B. Brentford would be mad to sell other than for a stupid sum (suppose we could offer them Hogan back!) which we can’t afford
      C. They aren’t going to loan him to us which is all we can afford.

      All in all – ain’t going to happen.

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    Pat 57 January 7, 2019 at 7:47 am .

    Also Purslow on FFP concerns –

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/what-aston-villa-said-financial-15637027

    He hasn’t got any concerns apparently and, as he sat on the working group that brought the rules in, then you’d have to think he knows what he’s talking about.

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    Hitchens60 January 7, 2019 at 2:55 pm .

    So, the mighty Villa is going to strengthen it’s defence by signing a reserve defender (on loan mind you) who has appeared in two Carabao Cup games having not featured once in the Prem or at all in the Championship for Wolves last season.

    If true, it’s madness – we’d be better served recalling Mitch Clark.

    Purslow can waffle on all he likes about FFP but I remain unconvinced that we have any spending power after wafting £5m on Kilinic (sic).

    Getting more depressed by the day.

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    Bill Pearson January 7, 2019 at 3:28 pm .

    Tammy Abraham didn’t train with Aston Villa on Monday and is set to finalise his defection to Wolves in the next 48 hours.

    Villa’s on-loan Chelsea striker, 21, was omitted from their FA Cup defeat to Swansea on Saturday.

    But Villa boss Dean Smith claimed post-match he expected the hitman, who has 16 goals in 20 games, to report for training Monday morning.

    Yet Mirror Sport understands the forward did not train with Villa’s first team squad today ahead of Saturday’s trip to Wigan.

    Molineux officials now hope to persuade Chelsea to cancel Abraham’s loan to Villa and loan him to them

    Reports from Daily Mirror.

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    Badger123 January 7, 2019 at 6:52 pm .

    The Beeb have just confirmed we’ve signed Hause on loan.

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      Hitchens60 January 7, 2019 at 7:05 pm .

      I’m completely underwhelmed.

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        DSVilla January 7, 2019 at 7:37 pm .

        Come on Hitch. This was you just before Xmas:

        Ho, Ho, Ho, Happy Christmas Pat and I promise to put my optimists hat on in 2019!

        Time to get that hat out!!

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          Hitchens60 January 7, 2019 at 7:56 pm .

          Blimey, talk about things coming back to bite you! Do you have an eidictic memory DS or is it just that I’ve become senile?

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            DSVilla January 7, 2019 at 8:01 pm .

            No I was looking back at previous threads as I was going to make some joke about you having to get the rum out to cheer you up, and then wasn’t sure if it was you out in Barbados or somewhere before Xmas so had a quick look for it and stumbled on that quote 😉

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              Hitchens60 January 7, 2019 at 8:05 pm .

              Came back with four excellent bottles of rum – some absolute corkers but actually on the whisky at present. Somehow, I feel the sun has to be shining to drink rum!

              Cheers DS

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                DSVilla January 7, 2019 at 8:11 pm .

                I have to say Rum is my favourite tipple at the moment (apart from red wine). I’ve got a few decent ones but all bought in the UK I’m afraid. Enjoy your whisky. I’m on a diet day so nothing for me tonight. Watching our U23 on Youtube against Man Utd.

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        Pat 57 January 7, 2019 at 7:41 pm .

        Hitch, perhaps we might give a him a chance before we start knocking him?

        I’m finding it difficult to believe how negative some fans are especially as Smith only took over five minutes ago and hasn’t had the chance to get his own players in yet. A little patience goes a long way.

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          Hitchens60 January 7, 2019 at 8:02 pm .

          Pat – I’m not actually knocking the young man – just expressing my own sense of disappointment as to where we, as a club, appear to have fallen and, as to patience, having supported the club for over 60 years, I reckon, like Bill, I’m allowed a little impatience.

          Anyway I’m suitably chastised and will only post positively from now on – there may be quite long gaps between posts LOL.

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            Pat 57 January 7, 2019 at 9:08 pm .

            Hitch just be yourself. I can understand the frustration all too well but we have to give Smith a chance. Hopefully we won’t have to wait too long

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              Hitchens60 January 8, 2019 at 7:10 am .

              Amen to that Pat

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    DSVilla January 7, 2019 at 7:59 pm .

    At Brentford Smith recruited players without spending great amounts of money, and created an attractive football outfit who were a match for the top teams on their day. I’m hoping that he has unearthed a good player for us in Hause, but we will see. Grealish has already Tweeted a welcome as he played for the England U21s with him. Still over 3 weeks of the window. If we can improve in key positions defensively, and get Grealish back we may not need to score 3 goals every game to win. That would help.

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      Hitchens60 January 7, 2019 at 8:08 pm .

      Ah well, a risk but looking at it positively, if he’s no good we can send him back LOL

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