Since I posted last week the revelation of the £90 Million share investment has got a lot of fans wondering what it is.
At the time the great David Conn from the Guardian said he would look into it and I am sure he will. However not one single local journo has replied back to me. Tonight Tom Ross interviewed Faulkner who said things were improving but Tom never asked him about it.
Why the silence ?
Apparently Mat Kendrick said it was ‘housekeeping’ but that is not correct and I don’t believe he has asked the club the right questions ?
Why not ?
Given tonights news with Holt it is clear we are not spending in this window. Now I could rant and rave about that but no point because I believe bigger things are going on. this £90M is deeply significant for how the club will be run in the future and yet silence from the club.
If I was a journo I would want to know what is happening and why we are forced to go for Wigan players on the bench on loan, it does not get lower than that (forget the player). People laughed at West Ham getting Roger Johnson this is just as bad.
I do believe and my conviction on this is getting stronger that this £90M represents a large shift behind the scenes at Villa. I said for a long time the belt tightening was a plan for Randy’s exit and hoping to hang on in the PL at the same time.
Stan Collymore today repeated the line about Red Bull. Now he is just repeating a well trod rumour BUT he has brought it into a wider audience.
I ask myself if the silence is due to movements soon, the journo’s have the story but asked to keep quiet.
Otherwise why not ask the question ?
That fat Cuxt Holt is Havin a medical at AVFC lets all get fuckin exited errrrr lets not god what a pile of shite
Jaydee…lighten up mate. Holt is costing fuck all and we need a back up for Benteke, Gabby etc…so whats wrong with it. It makes perfect short term sense. If it were a permanent deal then I would be majorly pissed off as well. Not only that , it means (hopefully) that we can add another couple of signings.
Fuck off Lerner, the Villa is OURS
holt makes perfect sense ~ hopefully benteke goal and improved second half display spurs him 2 repeat it for the run in ~ but holt will be massive in dressing room and maybe on field as he can hold the ball up and bring midfielders in ~ its wot we have been lacking all season
we all know we need a midfielder or 2 or 3 or even 4 but who ?? players that i av heard are none starters only hoolahan was a likely but thats now dead 🙁 i believe they try 2 get charlie adams somehow he would be perfect with westwood and delph
How does Grant make perfect sense… we have Benteke Gabby Helenius Weiman and Bowery.. three players PL brought and another he gave a pay rise to in the summer..
Now with Grant here that is a min of 35 going out on Helenuis Bowery and Grant.. if anything it shows the managers incompetence.. when wages are tight he is wasting it on players not needed or he does not think are good enough..
It is ridiculous.. and i can not believe there are fans who actually think it is a good idea..
Unbelievable Jeff..!
i explained b4 why i think hes perfect 4 now not nxt season, hes gonna rally the dressing room which must be a morgue. if benteke can produce the form of last year or play as he did last 20 minutes where he looked alittle interested then holt will not play.
but say benteke gets injured we av helenius and bowery / as back up 2 gabby and weimann . helenius needs time and bowery isn’t gonna make it, weimann is totally off form and lacking confidence,
its my opinion thats all ~ helenius would learn loads in training with holt positioning holding of defenders this is why i believe it makes sense
Sorry Nath we have a manager, his back room staff and coaches who are paid millions to coach and get the dressing room in the right frame of mind….. If they can’t do that then it shows how incompetent they are….. And the hod carrier proves this
He’s fat he’s round he bounces of the ground grant holt grant holt lol
“he elbows he kicks and he likes to carry bricks, he name is holt his name is holt !!
Foxy mate had heard that and its a cracker, think it was at one stage a go at the Blue noses, anyway Robo thanks for that but do we need to worry more. Is it the start of off loading the club at a future date? or is it a safety move of money.
Is this investment of cash anything to do with financial fair play? Assuming for a moment Lerner isn’t taking all the cash he can get and running the club on a shoestring and doing just enough to keep us in the PL, what if the plan is still in action and the club is being rebuilt? If debt is being written off (how much more debt does the club have, is there a limit on how much can be paid off each season?) does it enable the club to have a larger operating budget? I’d rather poke out my eyes than have to watch Lambert’s single tactic for the next 10 years but if he succeeds in calming everything down after four years of upheaval with all the various managers, could we see investment coming back in with a new manager? If it’s true that Lambert has more money available to him and choses not to spend it then I can’t wait to see him gone. I have a feeling he’ll see out his contract (three years?). It will be interesting to see where we are in 18 months. I don’t think we’re bad enough to go down, I do think Lambert is bad enough in terms of taking us forward. Call me a Lerner apologist if you like but I don’t see the same overwhelming case against him lots of other people see. The problem with it all is that we haven’t a clue what’s going on, where he’s taking the club, what Lambert’s aim is, anything. It will presumably come out in a few years time but for now it’s nigh on impossible being a blind sheep and expected to continue to support the club. Excluding the ones with so much money they can afford to throw hundreds of millions at football clubs, I wonder how many other teams in the PL are owned by people who have inherited wealth rather than built it up themselves, or worked their way up through a business to the point where they’re in charge and have a business head on their shoulders?
Foxy, how is FFP relevant when you have to be in Europe ?
That was one of the greatest wool pulling exercises I heard from the club. When they started to mention FFP we were a distance from Europe, this is about pulling the cash out. Lerner wants to get rid of his toy but the debt made it unsellable with no profit to him.
IF the 90M has paid off the debt he can finally get rid as total debt will be only 50M
My point being with no or little debt do the finances allow the club to spend more money than the opposition and build towards Europe? If the club has little or no debt doesn’t that make us a lot better off than a lot of the other teams?
of course but I do not think that Lerner will be doing that though. He could have paid the debt off at any time. We have no idea where the 90M came from.
As ~I just posted the signing of Holt as a very short term solutions tells me Lerner is off.,
And yet there would be no point signing Holt on a longer deal, he’s at the end of his useful playing career and Kozak will be back. He’s coming in on temporary cover.
Take that at face value then and explain the attempts to sign Hoolahan ?
I haven’t got the foggiest idea why Lambert wants to sign Hoolahan unless as someone else has pointed out he’s lost the dressing room and needs some of his old players back to sort things out. I can’t imagine why Hoolahan would have been signed for any length of time. Do ‘pay as you play’ contracts even exist? If they do most of the current starting 11 need to be on them…
I’ve said it all along about the press. Especially Kendrick and the like, they’re just interested in they’re own ego’s and posh dinners the club lays on for them. They won’t ask the questions that need answering as they’ll lose their access and perks of reporting on Villa. They don’t give a crap what the readership wants. Just what suits their own inflated ego’s! Never trust the press.
On the 90m, i’m not sure. There’s good arguments for a potential sale, one we won’t have any say in though. IF it is Red Bull, they will upset some people as there will be massive branding changes, which the traditionalists will hate, but if its for a bright future and they get it kinda right (not changing name or colours) will it be worth it? I think thats a very key question.
bullshit villa thats got a ring
Man gets pulled over by the old bill for drinking driving
The officer asks for a breath specimen – the driver pulls out a card from the asthmatic society which says “this man is severely asthmatic do not ask for a specimen of breath.
So the copper takes him down to the the cop shop and says right we are going to take some blood to see if you’ve been drinking – the driver pulls out a donor card which says “this man has a rare blood group and is not able to give specimens of blood”
The copper is now really pissed off and says right we are going to have to take a urine sample…… The driver pulls out his Villa season ticket, turns to the copper and says “please don’t take the piss”
its an old one but still makes men smile
I cant beleave people are sticking up for us getting Grant Holt in, even if it is on loan i consider this the most embarrasing thing we have done over the last few seasons and that includes getting Macleish, id say he is a championship player but he cant get in Wigans side. And all this utter crap that he is only backup and will be on the bench what if Benteke breaks his leg and gabby injury flares up again in a couple of weeks we will be battling relegation with Grant Holt as our main stiker, we are completly inept as a club you have backup that you think could actually be good enough to come in and play. What does lambert have to do to get the sack, if he was manager of West Brom, Crystal palace, Hull etc he would have gone by now but i suppose we have to acccept they have more ambition than us.
Villa get Grant Holt on loan and Hull close to signing Jelavic and Long. Mmm, I wonder who’s getting the better deal there?
We are a joke.
say he is a championship player but he cant get in Wigans side. That made me laugh CB LOL
Well i read on one forum that the 90m stuff was merely “paper shuffling” Ian. Make of that what you will be you’re right the silence has been rather defeaning since you let the cat out of he bag. And with this Red Bull stuff cropping up once again you start to put two and two together and…? If there’s no money spent this month then Randy must be very close to selling, what other excuse can there possibly be?
who said it was paper shuffling ?
Whoever said has no bloody idea, any link to it ?
Yeah Ian this is the link >>> http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=55606&start=18
So there’s no chance it was “paper shuffling”? if the 90m was to clear debts then does that indicate that Randy is clearing house before he sells?
cheers
so when JF said
It is typical of the shit stirring style of the author to be honest, no facts, open up the info and interpret it how he chooses.
You’ll find that nothing is happening, as above, it is paper shuffling.
There will be more info in the not too distant future to clear this up so it doesn’t now become yet another ‘thing’.
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Firstly of course it is not shit stirring it is factual context and secondly this is the same line Kendrick had, Faulkner has been busy !
I repeat again as confirmed by two different accountants this is NOT ‘paper shuffling’ , ‘tidying the decks’ whatever bollocks they want to come out with.
They just before Xmas lifted the cap on the shares and we speculated why and then found out £90M have been purchased, that is REAL money and it is all GOOD news …
In fact would it not be great for the club to announce that Randy has done this and paid off £90M of debt, think of the good reaction to it ?
So why now are the club still silent on this and telling people ‘paper shuffling’ when it is clearly not that ?
You’re right it all sounds fishy Ian. The man who you quoted claimed the club would bring clarity with some kind of “statement” but since then it’s just been silence.
If it’s only loans this month then one wonders if transfer stopped have been banned due to someone looking at the club?
Interestingly someone posted this on another blog…
https://twitter.com/maizy4/status/423088731374243840/photo/1
The rumours just keep on coming with each day that passes.
it does but as we know a lot of these are wind up’s depends on that forum how that kind of comment is treated.
I am past dealing with rumours to be honest and just look at the facts as we know it. When you look at what we know and what we see, then I conclude we are being sold (note not up for sale) and remember at the Browns the takeover there happened very quickly. The difference is that the set up was different here and they had to declare the 90M.
13:06
Grant Holt’s agents confirm he has signed for Aston Villa.
Lambert has changed tact. Instead of young and hungry he is going for old and very hungry.
Nath on loan i hope??
lmao don’t panic
loan until end of season / its just insurance we av a target man / plus i believe he will add far more character 2 the dressing room ~ might be more aswell stoke are near a loan deal with city 4 a striker so that might push the ireland deal through
More money of the wage bill Nath, for Lerners Burgers and Faulkners Greggs pasties…
Oh well that’s a boost to the ranks for the liverpool game im feeling more & more confident we’ll stuff em.LOL 😀
i am more happy with second half ~ pool will be another tough or even tougher test ~ but benteke is the key if we can get him 2 play again we will av no worries ~ bacuna is improving now hes been asked 2 play midfield ~ its ok reducing wages for squad players that aren’t playing but again this season aston villa players are lacking in experience,
i like burgers and pies but i love us 2 get 2 midfielders b4 deadline
18 months into a the ‘new’ project.. four strikers signed.. two others in the squad.. and we are bringing in Grant Holt on loan.. we can all see how the project is going..
actually I look on the Holt deal as a sign that things will change …
the money is there (before the 90M) to actually get the quality required but we are dealing with very short term options now.
Can I speculate as to why ?
Things are changing and why allow long term expensive deals.
Lionheart the word is ‘desperation’mate.
i am aston villa supporter not a spokesperson 4 the club, i am as sad as all villa fans are, my views are just that ~ i hope holt helps keep aston villa up, i understand that his wigan spell wasn’t fruitful and hes 3o plus but hes got a final crack at premier~ its horses for courses ~ no risk he is back up and example 2 younger strikers ~ if he does get a game or 2 he will be a handful i av seen him a few times and he certainly is physical and players feed of him
Nath ‘they can feed off him’ there’s enough there to get you through winter mate.feed a family of 4 you could.
Lol @Giddy
lol cannibalize him burgers alround
Signing Holt is ridiculous. Has to be the worst signing in the history of the premier league and all for what? Two goals against championship sides.. sorry Lambert but you already lost to them. If we wanted an experienced striker, oh I don’t know… lets see… oh that’s right we have Bent out on loan who scored premier league goals in bags for years. But hey I guess Lambert is a stupid, useless,arrogant wanker.
how did everyone rate the referee last nite???
i thought he never gave villa anything only stonewall-er free-kicks in none dangerous areas. plus it took around same time 2 take baker off who was unconscious and rosicky who had a runny nose ~ plus arsenal wanted 2 play on until guzan had the ball and released it up field then they wanted 2 stop play ~ rosicky had treatment on field changed top and was back in b4 game restarted GRRRRRRRRRRRR ok he was ltr subbed with injury runny nose
14:55
Manchester City have now confirmed John Guidetti has joined Stoke on loan.
the ireland transfer should go through
15:01
In order to sign John Guidetti, Stoke had to end one of their other Premier League loan deals and that has been achieved by signing Stephen Ireland permanently from Aston Villa
now irelands gone a midfield spot is vacant Lewis Holtby is available 2 loan hes the type albeit lacks premier experience but he oozes class and vision