Manager speculation and the Chelsea game

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Well the poll in the last post I wrote is interesting, isn’t it?
David Moyes is by far the most popular choice with a fraction over 50% of the vote and even though I said I’m not entirely convinced he’d be up for it, it’s perfectly understandable.
To my mind, he’s simply the best we could expect to get in that he’s a proven Premiership manager.
I still have doubts he’ll come to the Villa, but I’d be pretty happy if he did.

Pearson and Dyche are contenders, but what really caught my eye was the fact that more of us wanted Martin O’Neil than Brendan Rodgers!
The truth is I only put MON in for a joke, but it does show that while he’s incredibly divisive in the eyes of Villa fans, there’s many of us hanker for the days when things definitely seemed a lot better. And I’m one of them.
What has to be pretty certain is that the vast majority would take his “backs to the wall”, “no plan B”, “never played half the players” and “wasted money like it was going out of fashion” style of management over what we have now.
The fact that many see him as the cause of our downfall has of course been much discussed and of course, he’ll never get the job while Lerner’s in charge.
Which reminds me.
While I was on my last holiday, I heard a rumour which came from a Wolves fan, of all people.
Apparently, he knew the brief who was due to represent MON at the unfair dismissal case against Lerner and the story is that in the middle of MON and Lerner having a row, Lerner is supposed to have said something along the lines of “You Irish are all the same….”, which of course instantly leads to a charge of racism.
I tried to post all this at the time, but the internet in Goa was so poor, it just didn’t happen.
Oh, the chap who told me was a fireman. Does that make it any more believable?
I’m not convinced and am certainly not stating it as a fact.
But something as daft as that wouldn’t surprise me and we all like a nice juicy rumour don’t we?
You have to laugh.
Until you see the stories that are coming out, that is.

Apparently we’ve put Mick McCarthy on the shortlist for the manager’s role.
I left him out of the poll, but quickly realised that he might be a contender.
While I quite like him and I thought he did an ok job at Wolves, I’ve never been convinced.
He’s a bit too dour for me; he’s too pragmatic and just doesn’t seem to have any “je ne sais quoi” about him.
In other words, I don’t see him as having anything over Lambert or even Mc Spit.
I know his record is not too bad, but I just don’t see it.

And then there’s the story that John Carver has applied for the Villa job.
Let’s just say I don’t see much mileage in that one. But of course, if you don’t apply, you’ll never get the job.
I admire his ambition though, even if it is totally deluded.

And then, amidst all this interesting stuff, we have a game tomorrow against Chelsea.
Ah man, I’ve just realised it’s the early game and watching it will have to involve an even more cunning plan than I’m normally able to execute while I’m at work.
Dam you, BT (in this case).

Not that I expect I’m going to miss much.

Eric Black’s going to be in charge and I’ve expressed my doubts about him already, but here’s his thoughts;

“In the time I’ve been here I’ve never seen any splits in this dressing room. I’ve been in a lot of dressing rooms and have seen splits before.

“We’ve got to try and change something. The atmosphere has been poor in terms of everyone’s been a bit doom and gloom. I can help that process but ultimately I won’t be out on the field.

“We have seven games left, seven important games.

“Firstly I have to thank Rémi for bringing me to the club. I found him an exceptional individual.

“We must move on to Saturday and focus on trying to get a good result against Chelsea.

“We’re running an investigation which is underway. I’ve removed Gabby from the squad on Saturday. My focus is purely on Chelsea.

“I’ve looked at the previous games. I’ve been involved in training. I’ll pick a team I think is capable of competing against Chelsea.”

The good news is that Gabby definitely isn’t going to get a game and it’s about time this was said.
The excuse of not wanting the other players distracted is rubbish though and I’d love for someone to actually come out and say the bloke’s trouble.

As for the split issue, I’m not convinced, but no-one’s going to openly admit to it are they?
I suppose it might be true that there is no split, but I definitely suspect some of the squad are being misled by other players.

Meanwhile, we have Traore and Grealish back in contention, but it’s probably too soon.
Kozak and Amavi are still out.

As for the visitors, Diego Costa is suspended and Eden Hazard is injured

Willian, Oscar and Bertrand Traore will be assessed following international duty. Alexandre Pato could make his debut.

Not that any of this matters.
While I thought that if Remi Garde was still in charge of this game, we’d get a thrashing, I don’t see a fat lot changing under the caretaker, except maybe the final score.
We’ll play pretty much the same team, with maybe the odd change (Grealish straight back in?).
Because that’s pretty much all Black can do, if we look at it logically.
Play our best crap and lose.
Probably to another early goal, where we’ll again struggle because this team doesn’t have enough about them to win a game.
We might show a bit more fight, as a demonstration of how some of the contemptuous players are glad Garde has gone, but it won’t be enough.

My heart says we might scratch a draw.
But I’m going for a 0-2 loss.


Comments

118 responses to “Manager speculation and the Chelsea game”

  1. Saddened avatar
    Saddened

    I can see a cricket score coming 1

  2. That prat again cissohko he’s fucking dangerous in defence I said it last time and someone said he had a good game, the man cannot defend,

  3. Tekkers48 avatar
    Tekkers48

    There is absolutely no heart in that team. It’s just like groundhog day watching villa. I’ll bet you they concede another straight after half time, will get a player sent off and to rub salt into the wounds we will get a jammy penalty and miss it. The FA should have a Fit and Proper assessment for players as well as owners ! lol !

    1. Stubbs avatar

      I hope we don’t miss a penalty. I have a tenner on both teams to score and Chelsea to win. 🙂

  4. Knew I was right to turn the telly off. Now watching paint dry which is far more entertaining

  5. Stubbs avatar

    3-0 lol

    1. Tekkers48 avatar
      Tekkers48

      told you !

      1. Stubbs avatar

        If we got a penalty that’d be well funny ha

  6. VillaAwayInDiv3 avatar
    VillaAwayInDiv3

    48 seconds…

  7. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    Have now lost 7 in a row TWICE this season.
    3-0 now…

  8. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    My God. 4. Shocking.

  9. Andrew avatar

    Guzan again getting screwed by the defense.
    Hutton once again for the 100th time per game he’s out of position
    Once again Richards and Lescott are nowhere to be found.

    1. Stubbs avatar

      Ha ha ha ha ha…..Guzans fault all day long.

  10. Thanks Andrew, I’ve said it many times, This Black is as bad as any manager we’ve had, late chances cannot see players that don’t want to be on the pitch.

  11. Stubbs avatar

    4 down and we bring on Bacuna!!! Fucking pointless, we all know he is shit. Get Adama on and get some excitement around the place.

  12. Stubbs avatar

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha fans singing champions league you’re having a laugh to Bacuna ha ha ha ha ha

  13. Just six more to go.

    This season has been like death from a thousand cuts.

  14. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    Shame our defence aren’t as aggressive and committed as Ayew. Nice to see Jack back. Remember the Everyone In the Box mentality of the end of last season????

  15. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    The abuse Lerner is getting is hilarious!!!

  16. Stubbs avatar

    Hutton sent off lol

    1. Tekkers48 avatar
      Tekkers48

      LOL ! Just need the missed penalty now !

  17. Bum Bum avatar
    Bum Bum

    Bloody hell. Even the stewards are holding up the protest banners!!!!

  18. VillaAwayInDiv3 avatar
    VillaAwayInDiv3

    Well done to BT for showing and talking about the protest…….if it was live on BBC they would have only pointed cameras at pitch…..Owens still a twat though.

  19. I’ve been wondering if Cuzan is on the American pay roll? Like fucking the club up to get the drop money.well its a thought, I cannot understand why he Black never changed the team at 2 down?, what’s Sinclair done? Why has he been put into the shadows and not picked, why did the board send out Bernstein to appease us fans? by saying the club had problems and will be addressed in their time, to me its still shut your mouths and leave it to us, the club is crooked from top to bottom.

    1. Bum Bum avatar
      Bum Bum

      Bill, I really love the way you call him Cuzan! Makes me smile every time!????

      1. Sorry Bum bum the other word cannot use on here.?

  20. steve avatar

    the big screen in the ground showed a sign saying

    LEARNER U COWARD
    SHOW YOUR FACE.

    the club staff must also have it in for him.

    1. steve avatar

      sorry LERNER

  21. no guarde same result. we really can’t get any worse can we. can we get any better ??? not this season. we have nothing to hurt teams. but thought grealish looked bright.

    thank god for chelsea happy with 4, could av got embarrassing. thought referee was awesome. fabregas clearly should av been sent off. the foul on grealish in the box must av been a pen.even without my villa tinted specs on.

    can we not declare our season over (innings) 16 points the end

    1. Dave67 avatar

      Can we go down next week if result s go against us today .

      1. Don’t think so, there’s a possible 18 points left.

        Doesn’t matter anyway we’re down and out. Shambles from start to finish.

        I’d keep Ayew, Gueye, Gil, Amavi and possibly Gestede (if they’d be willing to stay that is) but the rest should be on their bike ASAP.

      2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
        OohAhPaulMcGrath

        Yes

  22. Villain1 avatar
    Villain1

    This is exactly why all the manager discussion is completely pointless. We need the biggest cull of playing staff in the history of the club because otherwise it doesn’t matter who is appointed, they will fail.
    It was refreshing to see Bacuna getting booed, though if he gets booed so should Richards, Lescott, Guzan, Westwood, Gestede etc

    I also have to say i’m very surprised how so many people are reacting so positively to Bernstein and Little. The quote from Bernstein about wanting a “British or English” manager is extremely worrying as surely we should be going for the best manager, why the hell is nationality being brought up.
    And for all the love in around Little, lets be honest, his only involvement within football in the last decade has been at Gainsborough Trinity and Jersey….. that tells you everything you need to know.

    As the banner said, Lerner is a coward hiding behind these token appointments and the players are complete tossers. We are a million miles away from even competing in the championship next year

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Agree I think Little is nothing more than a figure head IMO. Bit like Charlton at Utd. I don’t get why a change in board is seen as such a big deal Bernstein is well past his sell by date IMO.On the manager front I think it’s a question of who we can get no decent manager will come to us now. I personally think we will go down next season too especially if most of the current crop stay. I couldn’t stand another season of watching Guzan, Lescott etc no matter what division we are in.

      1. Hitchens 60 avatar
        Hitchens 60

        Oh for pete’s sake OohAh get a grip man. I presume you would be quite happy to see the previous board in charge! Let’s face it whatever happens at VP you will not be happy.

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
          OohAhPaulMcGrath

          Well you said that for past 4 years and yet again IV been proved right. Yes the board is an improvement but let’s face it that’s not hard I could a better job than Fox so could you! Only time will tell but action is louder than words let’s see what happens next season. I do t care who the board or manager is if we have the like of Guzan, Gabby, Sanchez, Richards etc next year then we will go down again guaranteed. That team out today would struggle big time to beat a championship side

          1. Hitchens 60 avatar
            Hitchens 60

            At least I’m consistent LOL! Actually OohAh I do agree with you over the need to deeply cull the squad and although we might disagree over individual players, I suspect that we will agree on most that should go and it will be a disaster if it doesn’t happen.

            FWIW I believe Bernstein, Bevington and Little’s appointments are very good ones for Villa. Bernstein in particular has a wealth of experience in football and at a senior management level – something we have all identified as being sadly lacking over the whole of Lerner’s ownership. He was instrumental in turning round the fortunes of Manc City and you just can’t undervalue that sort of knowledge nor can we criticise Hollis for bringing him onto the board. He certainly not past his ‘sell by date’ in my book – or would you prefer more younger inexperienced board members like Fox and Riley

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
              OohAhPaulMcGrath

              Agree Hitchens under the circumstances it’s the best board were will get. I’d like to have seen someone like Houllier in there or someone of that ilk. The appointments are a step in the right direction but Bernstein is in his 70s and football has moved on big time since his spell at City. Hard to say if it works but we could have pep Guadiola in charge next season of those players and we’d still struggle. They are not good enough and even worse don’t try and their attitude stinks

  23. Sir Earl Barratt avatar
    Sir Earl Barratt

    Hot off the press player ratings:

    Guzan 2 – surely the prerequisite for and footballer is to be able to kick straight?

    Hutton 2 – wouldn’t look out of place on a Sunday morning. Tried.

    Lescott 1 – get out of my club

    Richards 1 – cadge a lift with lescott

    Cissokho 1 – comical defending

    Westwood 2 – never a prem player in a rain of pig’s pudding

    Gueye 2 – fell over more times than he made a complete pass

    Sanchez 2 – headless chicken

    Gil 2. – lightweight waste of space?

    Ayew 5 – best player by a mile but that’s saying nothing

    Gestede 2 – about as useful as a condom machine in a convent

    1. Ratings are a bit too generous there IMHO

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      The only bright spot was Grealish who was easily our best player when he came on. Him and cissoko linked up well second half. Ayew as always tried his damdest but to no avail

    3. Benno avatar

      Apart from Gana I cant disagree!

      1. Sir Earl Barratt avatar
        Sir Earl Barratt

        What did you see Benno that I didn’t? Thought he was piss poor. Too easily knocked off the ball, gave it away and obviously forgot to put his studs in this morning.

        1. Benno avatar

          Dont get me wrong, I dont think he played well, but he is always head and shoulders above the other midfielders in this abysmal side. He is definitely a good defensive mid and at least he tries to move the ball forward from midfield, he is just surrounded by muppets.

  24. steve avatar

    i think the new board will turn us around but not overnight. we just need to get relegated and get the new manager in.
    I would like moyes purely because of all the clubs in england we are most like everton. he did a good job there and I know a few Everton fans that would have him back now.
    a player clear out will happen at the end of the season. I just hope gabby is out the door first.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Problem is can we get rid of Guzan Lescott gabby etc to mane way for new players. I don’t think we can and until that crap is out the club we will always struggle

  25. Hitchens 60 avatar
    Hitchens 60

    As I celebrate the passing of another year with another Villa defeat! I’m pleased to say that my lovely (and long suffering) wife with brilliant forethought took me out for lunch so I couldn’t ruin my day by watching a pile of sh**e!

    Nice bottle of wine, great food and now a nice large martini – don’t know why everyone is so depressed LOL.

    1. Hitch, sod that mate, I’m up the allotment with my rotorvator, had 20 ton of manuar turn up today, thought it was the Villa coach at first with all the players.

      1. Hitchens 60 avatar
        Hitchens 60

        LOL – lots of turnips then Bill!

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  2. Fucked by the powers tha be have to sell the best keeper ever to play for us just to comply…

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