So here is the first story I actually believe, in this window.
And it suggests the John Terry signing is pretty much done and dusted.
Yes, I know similar has been reported in the papers, but I never believe them, as some of you will well know.
“Langford”‘s actual words are
My man tells me (don’t forget he got every transfer correct in the last transfer window)….John Terry deal done and dusted but no medical booked Yet!
I feel it’s only fair to say that “Langford” and myself had a slight contretemps a while back, so you never know, he might to be trying to slip me a crippler.
But I very much doubt it, as I know he loves the Villa as much as any of us.
So you can pretty much guarantee this one is correct, unless it suddenly goes boobs up (read more money offered).
If and when he does sign, I suspect it’ll be a great subject for another post, as while he’s been a great player, so he’s also been controversial.
In the meantime, there’s a quick poll, asking what you think.
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114 responses to “John Terry in the bag? A good source says it’s so. Good signing? POLL”
Topic changed Nath 🙂
Possibly a good asset to the dressing room??? You can’t say this guy has a losing mentality. How much dough he could be on is a bit worrying has he still got the legs on him??? Expensive physio table warmer. It’s not yet a done deal so let’s see what happens do I like the guy?? Not particularly but if he does it on the field I’ll be happy
this story has been doing the rounds for weeks. but i didn’t give it a thought, why would he come to villa. when he could earn double in china or us. but if their is truth in this story. makes me feel better about the upcoming season.
iam sure their will be many slating him, but he is a class act. he is a real fans player, leader on and off field. we can rest assure that while Terry wears the villa shirt, the team will not quit and lay down their arms.
🙂 great signing
Because we’re not as small as you seem to suggest we are Nath?
Only joking mate.
I suspect it’s more down to the facts that he probably doesn’t want to go abroad, doesn’t want to play in the Prem against Chelsea and we probably offered him £10k a week more than anyone else.
From the playing side, I agree, this is a superb signing and will be seen as a massive coup (if indeed Bournemouth were interested).
But it’s another potential £60k a week disaster if, as Giddy suggests, we can’t keep him fit.
My opinion says we might be better signing a younger top player on £60k a week, with a bit more longevity in him, but I’m not going to knock this signing.
He’s a bloody good player and the mindset is just what we want.
If he doesn’t have to be helicoptered in every day and all that tosh, that is.
i just ask the questions lol i believe we lost lots of pulling power. i look at the quality of managers we have hired. we seem to not be able to attract the better ones.
but if villa do attract Terry that will put villa back onto the footballing map, i get their will be alot of negative posts on this matter. but it could be a coup if he shapes up the other players. makes them raise their games. we get promoted and his wages were worth every penny
Nowt wrong in asking questions 🙂
Surely this isn’t true Badger. We won’t have money for anyone else and his legs have gone. We will be lucky to get a dozen games out of him and that’s being optimistic. He obviously wants a career in management and will be our likely manager after Bruce goes. In other words we are a stepping stone for someone else to learn their mistakes off. No thanks this would be a disaster for us I don’t see how we’d benefit at all.
Behave we signed Schmeical that didn’t put us on any map. Terry’s options are limited. He won’t earn the money he would of made a couple of years ago in China as the government have bought in their own ffp now. No one in prem other than Bournemouth would touch him. So that just leaves us mugs. No thanks waste of money and will get nothing back of him he will struggle big time in championship. His legs are gone and he hasn’t got a world class defence around him to cover him.
For once, we actually both have the same concerns Oohah.
This will either go spectacularly well or spectactularly crap, imo.
Don’t be sure about China not being willing to pay though.
The good Doctor got sucked in by RDM easily enough, when every man and his dog knew that was a disaster waiting to happen, after all.
That said, I’ve hinted at Bruce not having all the say when it comes to signings, before.
Hmm, perish the thought.
Good points Badger 👍
was going to watch england under 21 but no grealish again. so i will watch the rugby instead
England 21 won 3-0 in semi finals,
If we’ve got him on a year long contact, with an extension subject to promotion I’m all for it, but if we’ve got some fool who does what we did with Given, Lescott et al and give him a 3+ year contract, then we might as well find another team now.
Yep, exactly my thoughts, Johnny.
But the original talk was a short contract, with a fat promotion bonus, which works fine with me.
One year, we get up and he walks with another few mill.
I can live with that.
I would welcome John Terry’s arrival at Villa. He is a born winner and a leader on the field. I remember watching him all match when we beat Chelsea at Villa Park (just before the special left first time). He spent all match in the refs ear, putting the official under a lot of pressure. It would be good for us to use some dark arts, far too often in recent times we have lacked the leadership to impose ourselves on the officials and other teams.
I appreciate my post seems to support poor sportsmanship but this is the reality of the modern game. May be the attraction of JT to Villa Park could act as a magnet to attract other players who are perceived to be too big for us?
Totally agreed, Sid.
I remember that game and was really glad to have got one over him, as he epitimises everything I don’t like in footy.
But as you suggest, it’s also why I like him as a player.
If we’re to get up again, we have to match any dirty tricks, if we’re to compete.
well my rugby team is losing i might watch the second half of england, lets see if grealish gets on as sub
england 2 nil up still no grealish
Despise the bloke. Heard many nasty things about his behaviour and ‘opinions’ from mate who was connected to old school Chelsea ‘fans’ of old. Please no! Another Joey Barton with more medals. Allegedly etc…etc…
That’s another concern I have, in that he has a bit of baggage. But I’m trying to look at things purely from a footy view, Bum bum.
I’ve always believed in the art not the artist, but I really don’t like Terry. He’s a winner undoubtedly and I hope it works out. This sort of thing often backfires on us. Remember Pires disastrous stay?
Off topic (sort of) – see Downing has been told he can go – any bets on who the next link to Villa will be!
Hasn’t there already been talk?
Yes, he’s bound to be linked, exactly the same as Young was.
Hope it would be an old fashioned signing like Macay with Cloughie…….
Also Blues linked with Terry and we JUST HAVE to have him now.
Sorry….computer went wrong and had to log in again….put MY name instead of username….lol
You have revealed your secret identity!!!
Don’t worry Keith I’m at an age that I for get things, it’s taking its time to be announced I wonder why, Downing in the field now could be why our young players got the boot to make way for older wage player’s
Hi Bill – this has all the makings of Deja vu and Groundhog Day rolled into one – buying old players, paying them too much and then wondering why they don’t perform.
That’s my fear. The money being spent in the Prem this year has become even more immoral. How much have the usually prudent Toffees spent so far????!!!!!
And to pay for it, my BT email address now costs me £5.50 a month up from £1.60, just for a simple email address!
Spot on Hitch, i know what you mean mate I keep playing my Vera Lynn records because the Villa getting old players. Memories Hitch memories.
Paying too much for TJ??
Would you pay £3m for him under the condition he then played for us nothing?
That’s what 60k per week equates to – £3120000.
Yes, but you’re assuming a one year contract BWS.
What if it turns out to be 3 years?
I was going to reply something along the lines of – Who in their right mind would hand a 36 year old a 3 year £9m contract?
But on reflection this is AVFC we’re talking about, a twilight zone where natural law doesn’t apply.
I’d doubt that Badger, he would need as much to pay the tax he’s having to pay over a year. It’s as you saying we don’t know because we are the people that pays his wage.
If it was just Terry, I could live with that but we’re also being linked with Whelan, Downing, Samba (!!!!) and Ledley all deemed surplus to requirements by their current clubs – shouldn’t that be telling us something? I suppose if money’s that tight we will just have to accept everyone else’s rejects and then pay them too much but hey ho we got them for free!
From young & hungry to now fucking fossils, baffling to say the least.
Does this not remind people of someone? I’m gonna go with… Lambert… From Tonev, Bacuna, Benteke, Westwood, Bowery, Lowton, Bennett, Okore, Luna, Helenius to Holt, Cole, Senderos, Richardson, Cissokho. When a manager struggles, he stops the young and hungry approach, gets scared because he needs to “prove himself” and goes for the older “safe” hands who are all worse than the youngsters he was buying and developing.
Every one of our manager’s has done it, bar Houllier, because they think that’s what is going to get them results, and it fails every time.
Shiite BWS, that’s 25 years of my pension, no wonder I’m skint.
There goes your triple lock Bill.
Any player who says I will give my answer next week will not say yes, Terry weighing up his opinions what mug will pay more, that will be Harry. It’s got to a situation now where he thinks they want me and give me what I want. Piss him off I say. He’ll go to Harry cause he’s a shit golfer.
Of course Harry would want his club to pay up, if it was up to him he’d give him like 10m a season to join Birmingham. Problem is, the club he’s at, can’t offer a lot.
i guess if they got terry on 12months contract. i do not know the figures you guys seem to saying. but lets say its 5mill and he helps to get villa into premiership. i think 5 mill spent on terry would have been worth it.
we have a talented squad, but their is something lacking in certain games. they get bogged down to easy or knock out of their game plans especially away from home. guessing here but he might be used in a player / defensive coach maybe.
i think also he could increase the other players output, some players demand more from their fellow professionals. we could easily lose 5mill on a balaban , tarore probably was on same wages and he was raw novice hardly used
Ok so they say we’re going to pay him 60k per week….so what….to sign a defender of his stature, whether you like him or not would probably cost 5 million plus 40 to 50k per week. If the deal is done well done to Steve Bruce and long may Terry wear the claret and blue!!!!!!
Get Terry in asap! One thing we havent had for years a natural born leader. Jedi is ok but not a scratch on Terry. He could be the piece in the puzzle that makes us a proper team again.
While’s he older, well past his best and whatnot, I don’t think my problem with him is on the pitch so much.
We’re signing an aging guy too how much? 4m? 5m? Arguably for a season. No doubt he’ll want to be captain, so that’s stripping it from Chester. And he takes up a spot for 1 season from a player we were either trying to make better in Baker or sign, then again if you believe the rumours Samba will be signed if Terry isn’t so yeah. I don’t think we need a leader at the back, I think Chester does that just fine. We need someone good, who can actually play with the ball at the back, Terry is not, has not and never will be.
This would be similar to signing Crouch, or re-signing Heskey. Not in terms of talent obviously, but almost a waste just to get a “respected” English head. But if you believe the rumours of having no money (though we’re spending a lot on wages, and likely a sign on fee), we could do better than Terry overall.
Then again, he might be able to control the midfield a bit, as he is that well respected man and we don’t have a leader in midfield, including Jedinak. Not that a midfield always needs a leader, but someone sitting back that can control it, so Terry will at least know where to tell them to go.
I will say, I’d take him well ahead of bringing back Downing. He was incredibly mediocre his first run, though I can’t blame him 100% seeing he was thrown into midfield to “replace Milner” which he didn’t have the talent to do.
we have money, but have to restrict paying transfer fee out, because they are 1million away from breaking the rules, then could be punished in lose of points and fines etc. hence they need to recoup transfer fees to then spend. or they can sign free transfer players.
we have a few players we could sell and then replenish our squad with cash signings. but the buying clubs know we need to do business like this and might play hardball. veretout, amavi and gil we should be able to move on, how much transfer fee they receive from these is debatable. i reckon 15mill but without us being desperate, we could have got 25mill for them
villa need to shop savvy this window, i think our squad is good enough now. just needs a bit of snagging. maybe terry is the type of player we need to finish us off. i do understand the concerns. but its not our personal money. 4 5 million is life changing to me. but to these super humans its loose change.
i doubt we could put a package to interest a player like terry. he does have one season at lower level left in him. so he will demand more than we can offer. i suspect
I don’t think he’d drop to any other Championship side if he was to drop down. Not even to Redknapp’s side. He’ll likely wait it out for a Premier League side to offer up the millions he’s after. WBA, West Ham type club who’d desperately pay out that kind of money to an old head like his.
Further to my original post re: John Terry, Alan Nixon (Daily Mail) saying deal is close!….he follows the same guy as me on twitter (protected account) !….Nixon as only just been allowed to follow him!
Betting on him joining is now 2/7….looks like my man has called it correct again!
UTV from Glastonbury!
Blimey sound like u may be right I hope your not though
Your the man Langford, keep it coming. Your mucker Bill.
Hi Bill – after enjoying a whisky or two last night I went on the wrong post 🙂 and saw I missed your birthday. Belatedly a very happy birthday; I trust you had a great day and enjoyed a tot or two of the amber nectar
A whisky or two? More than that Hitch, cheers mate another one over plod on I say ,might be why I’m anxious about the Villa an signing.
Just looked at odds for next season we are favourites to win league. Bookies havnt a clue
Nice thought though 😁
The deal seems to be £60k a week; this is the much quoted figure.
And there’s talk of a £5 mill bonus, if we get promoted.
FFP, it’s not just about transfer fees, but all of the costs. Ie, wages. pension and all sorts, in reality.
As for not being able to attract top players like Terry, it’s easy, imo.
You offer £60k a week on a 3 year deal, but the reality is they only agree to play one season and can basically do what they want for the remaining 2 seasons.
So effectively £180k a week.
Ok, he can’t play for anyone else, but we all know he’s soon to retire anyway.
Far fetched? Immoral?
Maybe, but think about it.
The player’s happy. The club is happy too, because they get the player and are not seen to be breaking the FFP limits in the short term.
And if I can think of a dodge like that, think what the proper bean counters can do.
Of course, none of this matters if we get promoted.
But if we don’t, it’s just kicking the can further down the road.
The point is, the books can be made to look exactly how you want them too, as long as they match up over time.
It’s a point I’ve often made, but it gets glossed over, as everyone’s at it, at this sort of level.
i think its worth the risk. even just having a this type of player in the dressing room. he might take up a coaching role / p/t player. used sparingly.he will bring that winning mentality which our club have not had in years. if he increases other players performances juust by having him around its a dear support but one we fans don’t pay for directly. this season has to be a gamble. we need promotion. because even if we didnt spend this on terry. we are in financial shit if we fail. the squad we assembled will be reduced greatly.so its eggs / basket saying
I never thought of that dodge Badger what a great idea.
Of course, that sort of deal means there’s an option for the manager to take a cut from it too.
Say £5k a week, deposited by the player in some foreign account owned by some business that owns a shell company, that has invested in some other business etc, etc.
Of course, I’m not accusing Bruce of that, as he’s squeaky clean (ahem, I haven’t half got a sore throat), but the possibilities are there, is the point.
I doubt Dr Xia would stand for it though, as he probably knows more accounting tricks than any accountant.
And the FA have tightened up on it (there goes my throat again).
Can you audit my books for me Badger -:)
🙂 argh
I probably could, as it happens Hitch, but I might smell a rat :-), albeit a legal one.
As per usual, there’s always ways and means, is the point, as I’m sure you probably know.
Moi?! 🙂
Oh, as for us apparently signing a whole team full of aged players?
Two hopes and some of us really shouldn’t believe all we read, imo 🙂